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Post by Trish on Dec 6, 2011 18:10:15 GMT -5
That's MM. That last part made me cry.
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Post by ChrolliForever23 on Dec 6, 2011 18:17:03 GMT -5
loved the episode today. glad charlie is back, and so sweet of her to call christian and olli 'my family'...bless i missed not seeing her in DD. the scenes at the hospital were touching, i loved them all especially christian's expression of serenity and tranquility when he turned off the light was sheer perfection...their cuteness should be made illegal!!! thanks joanna for the lovely caps. I agree with you Kathy. Their love and cuteness should all be made illegal. They were so freaking cute today that I am about to go watch the episode again. Jo and Thore have done amazing these last recent episodes of them getting back together. Thore especially with his facial expressions and Jo, just AMAZING in everything he does. By the way, thanks to MM and Joanna for the things they do for us, who are not in Germany and that don't speak the language.
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Post by devsah on Dec 6, 2011 18:32:40 GMT -5
I agree the episode was so damn cute, I think because i watched them grow together i saw them as adults, really its only been 4 years in soap time, and they are still just as playful and youthful as they always are.
Christians cute jokes about nurses, and old timer stuff and Ollie doing what he does best drill it into christian that he doesnt care what has to happen but that it will be happening...so like it or lump it busta cause i love you......its cute when he lovingly puts his foot down to Christian.
I can see Christian taking time to adjust, but as Ollie said before he wont do anything while he is around, he manages to get Christian to eventually tow the line.......they are adorable....
Gorgeously sensitive and touching today......
and thank you MM (huge hug and kiss), I wait for each and every episode you upload and enjoy and appreciate every one....as im sure does everyone else......would be a very dull soap without you....cause the joy of these two brilliant actors wouldnt stay with us without you.
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Post by mitsaso on Dec 6, 2011 18:54:19 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP today's episode was too adorable! It's like they tried to make up for 6 months without Chrolli by putting all the sweetness we could have witnessed in these 6 months in ONE episode!! I loved it to pieces, of course, and I hereby declare my memory of the past 6 months WIPED. I loved Charlie bitching at both Christian and Olli and then getting all emotional... I loved Olli doing a little roleplay and becoming Christian's nurse... the whole montage at the hospital was so cute I forgot to demand an actual sex scene! I loved that Christian will be a couch potato now! I hope we get the chubby chaser/feeder storyline we've all been secretly longing for... LOL they even touched on the swans again! Henriette's white broken swan got replaced with Charlie's... black... swan....? Oh, as far as symbolisms go, that can't be good: @ Sylvain: Why did I have the feeling you'd be one of the first to react to that??? And where's Mitsaso? I bet he has something to say as well... OMG these underpants!!! The writers are going out of their way to establish Christian's new direction; they gave him granny panties, got Olli on his hospital bed for some geriatric cuddles, forbade him from doing anything more intense than walking and a bit of swimming... and how many times did he mention the words "old timer"? Are they establishing Christian as old now? Perhaps the next storyline is Olli falling for Christian's twink lost brother that just came into town? No wait that's Helandi's story now. Sylvain answered first as he lives in the gutter...Mitsaso will arrive soon...he is further down!! .....I would NEVER have thought that.....well actually I looked at the boxers and thought OMG no!! Oh wait I know!!! These are not Christian's underwear! I guess Theresa forgot her panties last time she was in the apartment. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by devsah on Dec 6, 2011 18:55:09 GMT -5
Actually I must add that I liked Olli's tone when it came to Raf, he felt bad for Raf yesterday and sounded like he felt guilty for how he spoke to him, he's had his attitude and head in the sand over the divorce but Olli by nature is remorseful on things, so i think he didnt regret breaking it off with Raf but felt bad about how he did it.
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Post by blaykee on Dec 6, 2011 18:58:18 GMT -5
cute episode. Charlie almost made me cry she was so sweet. And talk about sweet, R's letter was sweet. How totally mature of him. (like he had a choice other than turn all pyscho stalker on them) I found the nighttime scene oddly edited and not sure what we were supposed to come away with. but it was cute nonetheless. Not sure what I think about that swan. So now Christian is the old one, is this in relation to Olli enjoying the young ones recently and Christian feeling too old (not good enough?) Sad he won't be able to ride anymore. That would be really hard to get used to. cute ending scene. eta: I never got my "LET ME SEE MY HUSBAND" hospital scene I was sure they were going to include. Why make such a big deal about it last time and never even touch on it this time.
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Post by devsah on Dec 6, 2011 18:58:37 GMT -5
@ Mitsaso, I dont know about Germany or the writers, but they made reference to Australia a few times with Fabian and David and Lydia.
Black Swans are native to us over here, they are majestic and just as beautiful as the white ones..... So i'm sure its only referenced in that way not a bad omen....
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Post by Tagro on Dec 6, 2011 19:04:42 GMT -5
ARGH!!!! The video is blocked for Germany again...
I HATE THAT!!!
Nevertheless thanks a lot MM for uploading it.
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Post by angelarose on Dec 6, 2011 19:10:51 GMT -5
I loved the nighttime stargazing at the hospital room ceiling. Too cute. And I loved Christian referring to Olli as his 'husband'.
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Post by miranda07 on Dec 6, 2011 19:21:16 GMT -5
@ devash i agreed with you about olli felt bad for rafel about how he dumped him, and it was a good gesture of rafael wishing olli and chris all the happiness im glad they didnt turn him a bad guy. and well charlie replaced the swans but why black swans ? hope it is not a bad omen please writters after 8 months of suffering we deserve some rest
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Post by sonia38 on Dec 6, 2011 19:42:21 GMT -5
Why would the black swans be a bad omen, that I just don't get but I digress.
It was a nice episode but I hope one of these days they will actually sit down and have a talk about all that went wrong. That last scene was adorable and you can see how spoil Christian is with all the sulking he was doing, but Olli loves him despise it all just like he loves Olli despite all his flaws.
I also loved that even though they are divorce Christian refers to Olli as his husband but the part of all is that Jessica was not all up in these scenes.
Charlie cracks me up first she said it's all Olli's fault that it came to this then she said she did not know he wears those kind of underwear, she is very observant.
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Post by Trish on Dec 6, 2011 19:53:20 GMT -5
I think them adressing the issues will be similar to what we got today. Olli being up front that he didn't like Christian self-ptiy. They love each other and hopefully now they will be open and honest about how they feel and there won't be the frustrations and misunderstandings that caused the past problems.
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Post by philos on Dec 6, 2011 20:09:28 GMT -5
Thanks so much Joanna. This is by far my favorite. Have you see my new avatar, twatts?
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Post by Trish on Dec 6, 2011 20:17:11 GMT -5
Have you see my new avatar, twatts? [/quote] Lovely. I'll be changing mine later.
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Post by bkoz on Dec 6, 2011 20:48:09 GMT -5
Don't really have anything to add, that you guys haven't said, but I will say AWWWWW CHROLLI ARE SO CUTE!!!!
Thank you MM for the vid and translations.
Oh and I adore Charlie. But Olli is right, those swans were ugly.
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Post by Trish on Dec 6, 2011 21:12:21 GMT -5
Don't really have anything to add, that you guys haven't said, but I will say AWWWWW CHROLLI ARE SO CUTE!!!! Thank you MM for the vid and translations. Oh and I adore Charlie. But Olli is right, those swans were ugly. I liked the ones from his mother better, but these will be harder to knock over.
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Post by bkoz on Dec 6, 2011 21:16:08 GMT -5
Don't really have anything to add, that you guys haven't said, but I will say AWWWWW CHROLLI ARE SO CUTE!!!! Thank you MM for the vid and translations. Oh and I adore Charlie. But Olli is right, those swans were ugly. I liked the ones from his mother better, but these will be harder to knock over. I liked the ones from Olli's mother better too. Oh and man did Charlie get emotional. She didn't get this emotional when Olli had that brain aneurysm and ended up in the hospital.
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Post by Trish on Dec 6, 2011 21:27:33 GMT -5
I liked the ones from his mother better, but these will be harder to knock over. I liked the ones from Olli's mother better too. Oh and man did Charlie get emotional. She didn't get this emotional when Olli had that brain aneurysm and ended up in the hospital. I think she was emotional about what could have happened. It's amazing the strength you find during a crisis and she had to be strong for Christian. He lost it a bit, because she was blaming herslef for letting Olli work when she knew he had headaches and Gregor had to calm her and Christian down.
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Post by polkadottie on Dec 6, 2011 22:51:49 GMT -5
Agree. Jo is stunningly handsome and always has been but recently he's looked better than ever. I was less than impressed when the spoiler pics were released and it showed that Oli would be smurf suited and scarved for the reunion episode but I forget all that as soon as I saw his sad green eye eyes. They look even prettier when he's been crying... Maybe the reason they cut the kiss is because they realised how weird it looked when they played it back? Really odd...I mean, let's face it, these two are no strangers to hospital scenes, they should have the hospital bedside kiss perfected by now.... ...smurf suited ;D Oh I also cannot but agree on Jo's and Thore's amazing performance!! But about the kiss I noted as well there was something hesitant... that could very well be explained by the mere fact that it's been so long ago since closeness in all kinds of ways and with the whole emotional turmoil that day of having watched the love of your life almost die - and believe he actually did - and then later on the same day you can kiss him.... no wonder the kiss sort of was like a first again... Oh and I also must say mega thanks to MM again and Joanna wow all those caps!! And a big welcome to all newcomers!
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Post by polkadottie on Dec 6, 2011 22:54:11 GMT -5
I loved the nighttime stargazing at the hospital room ceiling. Too cute. And I loved Christian referring to Olli as his 'husband'. Oh right! Loved that too.
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Post by phoenix-feather on Dec 6, 2011 23:05:03 GMT -5
-Wow! I think we got more snugly chrolli yesterday than we got in 3 yrs ;D -Does it sound like I'm complaining?....it shouldn't... coz I'm grateful they got some kind of a 'bed scene' , we never know when we'll get that again, as I'm guessing VL ppl have got rid of their bedroom set by now... -Also, expecting a realistic talk from them at this point is unrealistic, so I won't bother -Another thing, guys, you've been kissing each other for 4 years now, surely you can aim your kisses better! ;D
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Post by luckycharm on Dec 6, 2011 23:10:49 GMT -5
and well charlie replaced the swans but why black swans ? hope it is not a bad omen please writters after 8 months of suffering we deserve some rest I find the symbolism of the swans intriguing. Initially, they got a pair of white swans, alluding to the symbolism of swans mating for life, and love and partnerships....which broke. Then, the symbolism of a single black swan, beyond "black" being a bad omen colour, may actually be alluding to the metaphor of the black swan...as a rare, significant event whose improbability of occuring is so great, that, when it does occur there is an extreme impact. Like Chrolli struggling for so long to find their way back to each other, getting a divorce....and somehow, through all odds, and Christian almost dying, they found their way back to each other and their love. The dialogue b/w Olli and Charlie kind of alluded to the above. When Olli changed his mind of the black swan being ugly...to something........special/unique. I like it. **** At first I was diappointed that after all that, the reunion only culmiated with a few pecks on the lips, but it worked with the SL as Christian almost did die and all....so I can forgive VL for blueballing me there. I can't say I'm not disappointed with the way their reunion came about - Olli running back to Christian only due to Christian almost dying - which, as I followed the spoilers, was already a predictable let-down. The SL could have been deeper in terms of their reconciliation, but I try not to hope for too much with VL. I liked how the scenes for the divorce was played out. Minimal words conveying a lot. Jo and Thore acted that out beautifully. What I like was that they tied in Axel's best friend from way back when, to Christian's bout of stepping back in the ring.....and Christian's fear/anger/resentment/rage/desperation was so palpable when he was beating the living shit out of that dude. To me, Christian has always had this underlying vibe of obsessive kind of love for Olli..........and which is sometimes a bit unnerving to see, as he can get quite possessive and protective of Olli due to it..........was full-on with that scene. One bit of hilarity, Thore's choice of expression when Christian sees Olli right before passing out...the choice to do a bug-eyed expression.........HI.LA.RIOUS....unintentionally so. What I also liked was that, after all that, after the divorce, due to Christian's stress and distress, the first signs of Christian's heart attack started at the stable office (i.e., before entering/factoring in the boxing ring). And, the first thought in his mind was to reach out to Olli, in his time of distress. What broke my heart was that Olli, unknowingly, rejected that. Raphael was a sweet puppy, who got sent to the puppy mill, in this whole SL. The arch of his character (what minimal there was) was quite ridiculous. But, I am kind of sad to see him go. It was good to see Olli's dynamic with another male in a romantic setting, and Raphael quietly stood up to Christian and his aggression, demeaning comments, suspicion, etc. He was a good guy, and I thank VL for not doing a Rob-redux. I'm also thankful that Jessica was nowhere in these scenes. I still do not buy her dynamic with the flatshare gang. The motives of the characters, to justify their easy acceptance of her, is far-fetched at best. But, whatever, VL, whatever. I forgive you for making it up to me by bringing Charlie back. THE ONE AND ONLY ORIGINAL CHARACTER FROM BEFORE CHROLLI WAS EVER CHROLLI, AND WHO SUPPORTED THEM, AND WHO SAW THEM THROUGH IT ALL....TO PRESENT. Ich LIEBE Charlie. And, it was nice of them to remember Gregor and Louise, even if in passing. It was an interesting touch that they had Christian re-do his exact response as before, when he was faced with the news of his physical limitations after his myocarditis (long ago), this time around too. The petulant sulk....and Olli's response, again same as before. I don't know how I feel about it. One part of me likes that it's a reminder of the Chrolli of old, that they're still the same characters......as it felt like a deja vu scene. Complete with Olli's babying of Christian, who secretly loves that shit, even though he scowls through it. But, at the same time, it irked me a bit because it shows that the characters are literally just going through cycles without any growth or insight. Christian, so close to losing Olli, and finally getting him back, goes back to his insecurity of testing Olli with all his petulant sulking and woe-is-me routine. I am not ecstatic with the storyline, but, I was warned that this was the route ala the spoilers, so it wasn't a blindsided let-down at least. However, I am ecstatic with the performances of Jo and Thore, in showing us that Christian and Olli continue to have chemistry between one another. And why Chrolli is Chrolli. Olli in a Nurse's uniform which means NO SCARVES = LOVE! Christian's face showing his moment of utter inner-peace and contentment right before he turns off the light, lying in Olli's arm = DOUBLE LOVE!! **** Thank you, Joanna, for all your hard work in delivering all the pretties (and there were QUITE a few...phew!). And, of course, as always, thank you MercuryMay, for your amazing work in continuing to carry the torch for Nanna so that Chrolli can live on for us international fans.
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Post by Trish on Dec 6, 2011 23:14:20 GMT -5
I loved when Christian said that he never wanted to wake up without Olli again. The tone in his voice was so soft and pleading. I've never seen Christian like that before. It ws a tone, that I normally would associate with Olli.
Then Olli assured him that it will never happen again. I guess that what they meant when they said that Olli assured Christian that nothing would come between them again.
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Post by polkadottie on Dec 6, 2011 23:33:14 GMT -5
Yaaay thanks! Oh the translation makes the whole difference in some of the scenes where I'd just got half the German words before!! Christian is even adorable being grumpy self-pitying when I know exactly what he says... the old-timer worries.... AND yes totally sweet when he says oh he never wants to wake up without Olli again. My heart breaks for him not being able to ride horses again at least not as a job... (oh well Thore's not allowed either b/c insurance stuff, so it all makes sense but still) ... ... hm if there's trouble with the clips showing in Germany I hope you guys will work it out somehow. Again super thanks MM for all your work and putting together other songs and everything!! luckycharm: Very interesting post , thanks! About the deja-vu impression of Olli trying to cheer Christian up , I thought of that too at first until the second Christian interrupted Olli with "don't say that, it like the lamest line ever". A funny way the writers got that message through, I think, ehm. What I'm saying is that I that there's prolly more depth to some stuff there than one might give a soap credit for. The black swan imagery as well etc. Oh well - now I must get outta here for now. ;D
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Post by joanna on Dec 7, 2011 1:35:25 GMT -5
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