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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 23, 2011 13:27:15 GMT -5
Just finish watching todays show and I love it and even thou I speak no german, I could tell that Rafael is totally in love with Olli. I think Jessica found her another friend in Rafael again don't speak the language, but I think Rafael knew something about the shoes. The only thing I could have done without is the Majorcia stuff. MMay... I'm not rushing you but I can't wait tell you sub todays show so I tell what was actually said. I think he said that he had a job working with shoes. She he had some knowledge. I like it better when she didn't like him. Yiah but u have to admit he was kinda adorable when he was talking about his love for Olli. I totally get him,who wouldnt feel helpless next to the big Chrolli love/drama.How can u compete with that?
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Post by sonia38 on Nov 23, 2011 13:51:55 GMT -5
Wow some are really feeling the Rafael love. So he's head over heals in love with Olli, and he helps Jessica with her shoes good for him, I'm not feeling him and wish he would just go away.
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Post by maya on Nov 23, 2011 13:57:31 GMT -5
I don't mind Rafael, he seems a nice guy, but I don't see any chemistry with Olli especially compared to Chrolli's chemistry
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Post by LadyArmand on Nov 23, 2011 14:01:46 GMT -5
Just finish watching todays show and I love it and even thou I speak no german, I could tell that Rafael is totally in love with Olli. I think Jessica found her another friend in Rafael again don't speak the language, but I think Rafael knew something about the shoes. The only thing I could have done without is the Majorcia stuff. MMay... I'm not rushing you but I can't wait tell you sub todays show so I tell what was actually said. I think he said that he had a job working with shoes. She he had some knowledge. I like it better when she didn't like him. I'm not sure if she likes him. I think she feels sorry for him.
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Post by Trish on Nov 23, 2011 14:23:59 GMT -5
I think he said that he had a job working with shoes. She he had some knowledge. I like it better when she didn't like him. I'm not sure if she likes him. I think she feels sorry for him. This is Jessica, she doesn't feel sorry for anyone. She was doing all that talking to Andi/Daniel and they could care less about what she was saying. Now R comes along and helps her with her exercising and also knows about shoes. I think she likes him a bit more than before, when he didn't want her autograph. After all it's all about her isn't it?
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Post by Trish on Nov 23, 2011 14:24:54 GMT -5
Wow some are really feeling the Rafael love. So he's head over heals in love with Olli, and he helps Jessica with her shoes good for him, I'm not feeling him and wish he would just go away. I'm with you Sonia. Not feeling the R love.
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Post by robin1 on Nov 23, 2011 14:26:52 GMT -5
ive translated some of the chrolli parts for FB:
charlies flat:
olli: why are u here?! christian: (screams) because of you! didnt go to brandenburg cause i just want to speak with you. but it's done now... olli: from where do i have to know this?! chris: nobody says that u have to know this... here's the date.... olli: which date?! chris: of the divorce! u have to know this if u have find the time to check your mailbox... but u were too busy for this. and now go out of my flat!
stables part 1:
olli: i was flying to ibiza cause i dont want to say goodbye to you... chris: u dont have to fly to ibizia for that reason.... olli: it was unthinkable to me you're leaving duesseldorf. chris: im not gone. olli: when u're saying u're staying here because of me... what does that mean, christian?! chris: when? olli: when ur trying to stop me. jessica told me that u're coming with roses into the NL. what do u want to say? chris: does this count anyting?! olli: maybe.... chris: and rafael?! olli: rafael... i only have... we're just flying away cause i was thinking u're moving to brandenburg. chris: so this my fault? or what?! olli: i was thinking you dont care about me. chris: i do. olli: me too...
stables part 2:
olli: im happy ur staying. chris: me too. hagen, dana and me - we're a really good team. olli: we used to be a good team too... chris: yes... olli: the divorce date... chris: if u cant on that day we can move it... i dont care for 1 or 2 more days... olli: yes, WE can move it... behind. and maybe... chris: yes, we can olli... olli: then it will be over... finally. chris: but we have clear things (or clear conditions). maybe we can stay good friends... after ruin everything else, maybe we can get that... olli: yes... chris: i have to go back to the horse.... olli: ok...
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Post by kathy on Nov 23, 2011 14:45:34 GMT -5
Wow some are really feeling the Rafael love. So he's head over heals in love with Olli, and he helps Jessica with her shoes good for him, I'm not feeling him and wish he would just go away. I'm with you Sonia. Not feeling the R love. i'm with you both as well ;D i just wish rafael could just disappear ASAP . hate seeing chris and olli doing this to each other. have to say though i totally loved chris' reaction when he saw o and r together in the flat...way to go Mann!!!
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Post by Trish on Nov 23, 2011 14:49:03 GMT -5
Thanks Robin. You confirmed that Olli is full of it. Chris comes to NL with roses and he really tells him that maybe if he tells him why it will mean a difference. He's lost his right tho have Chris grovelling at his feet asking for forgiveness If he wants Chris he has to let him know. But since he's got R waiting in the wings, he doesn't need to do that.
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Post by gelybi on Nov 23, 2011 14:50:25 GMT -5
Oh thanks robin!! What a stupid conversation , it seems the dialogue of two 15-years-old totally in love but confused, saying all the wrong things waiting for the other one to disagree grrrr, I want Dyonisios to bite them!! ;D
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Post by GiGi on Nov 23, 2011 14:59:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the translation Robin! How incredibly frustrating! Christian is being pigheaded... Ugggg!!!! Just tell him how you really feel already. Poor Olli... This is getting kinda ridiculous. ive translated some of the chrolli parts for FB: charlies flat: olli: why are u here?! christian: (screams) because of you! didnt go to brandenburg cause i just want to speak with you. but it's done now... olli: from where do i have to know this?! chris: nobody says that u have to know this... here's the date.... olli: which date?! chris: of the divorce! u have to know this if u have find the time to check your mailbox... but u were too busy for this. and now go out of my flat! stables part 1: olli: i was flying to ibiza cause i dont want to say goodbye to you... chris: u dont have to fly to ibizia for that reason.... olli: it was unthinkable to me you're leaving duesseldorf. chris: im not gone. olli: when u're saying u're staying here because of me... what does that mean, christian?! chris: when? olli: when ur trying to stop me. jessica told me that u're coming with roses into the NL. what do u want to say? chris: does this count anyting?! olli: maybe.... chris: and rafael?! olli: rafael... i only have... we're just flying away cause i was thinking u're moving to brandenburg. chris: so this my fault? or what?! olli: i was thinking you dont care about me. chris: i do. olli: me too... stables part 2: olli: im happy ur staying. chris: me too. hagen, dana and me - we're a really good team. olli: we used to be a good team too... chris: yes... olli: the divorce date... chris: if u cant on that day we can move it... i dont care for 1 or 2 more days... olli: yes, WE can move it... behind. and maybe... chris: yes, we can olli... olli: then it will be over... finally. chris: but we have clear things (or clear conditions). maybe we can stay good friends... after ruin everything else, maybe we can get that... olli: yes... chris: i have to go back to the horse.... olli: ok...
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Post by LadyArmand on Nov 23, 2011 14:59:05 GMT -5
Of course for some it all comes down to Olli being full of it (like he was the only one responsible for the break, like he's the only one responsible for the butt load of miscommunications since then... ::)if I rolled my eyes harder I'd go blind). Instead of the two of them being completely full of it at this point. (I stayed because of you, I care about you so lets stay friends....yeah okay, that tells everyone especially the guy he wants to get back with that he wants to get back with him) Like Olli is supposed to read Christian's fucking mind. Like I'm leaving really means I'm staying for your and Olli flew off with Rafa anyway. Like Olli coming out there basically asking Christian to tell him what he wants means be vague and lets be friends...But Olli is the only one full of shit.
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Post by GiGi on Nov 23, 2011 15:03:27 GMT -5
Thanks Robin. You confirmed that Olli is full of it. Chris comes to NL with roses and he really tells him that maybe if he tells him why it will mean a difference. He's lost his right tho have Chris grovelling at his feet asking for forgiveness If he wants Chris he has to let him know. But since he's got R waiting in the wings, he doesn't need to do that. I got the complete opposite from Robin's translation. Olli was trying so hard to get Chris to talk and admit his feelings, but Chris was shut down. My heart aches for Olli, when it usually sides with Christian. We'll have to see how it plays out with the fabulous MercuryMay posts the clip.
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Post by maya on Nov 23, 2011 15:04:12 GMT -5
Oh thanks robin!! What a stupid conversation , it seems the dialogue of two 15-years-old totally in love but confused, saying all the wrong things waiting for the other one to disagree grrrr, I want Dyonisios to bite them!! ;D ;D I completely agree. Thanks for helping us with the dialogues Robin
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Post by amk on Nov 23, 2011 15:06:18 GMT -5
Of couse for some it all comes down to Olli being full of it (like he was the only one responsible for the break, like he's the only responible for he butt load of miscommunications since then...if I rolled my eyes harder I'd go blind). Instead of the two of them being completely full of it at this point. (I staied because of you I care about you so lets stay friends....yeah okay, that tells everyone espeically the guy he wants to get back with that he wants to get back with him) Like Olli is supposed to read Christian's fucking mind. Like I'm leaving really means I'm staying for your and Olli flew off with Rafa anyway. Like Olli coming out there basically asking Christian to tell him what he wants means be vauge and lets be friends...But Olli is the only one full of shit. btw- Rafael IS very cute , and his scenes with Olli is quite pleasant to watch - totaly unexpected for me I like to see Rafael together with Jessica - very nice combi
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Post by gelybi on Nov 23, 2011 15:17:31 GMT -5
Of course for some it all comes down to Olli being full of it (like he was the only one responsible for the break, like he's the only one responsible for the butt load of miscommunications since then... ::)if I rolled my eyes harder I'd go blind). Instead of the two of them being completely full of it at this point. (I stayed because of you, I care about you so lets stay friends....yeah okay, that tells everyone especially the guy he wants to get back with that he wants to get back with him) Like Olli is supposed to read Christian's fucking mind. Like I'm leaving really means I'm staying for your and Olli flew off with Rafa anyway. Like Olli coming out there basically asking Christian to tell him what he wants means be vague and lets be friends...But Olli is the only one full of shit. ;D ;D ;D ;D Can I say I love you?
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Post by gelybi on Nov 23, 2011 15:20:23 GMT -5
I got the complete opposite from Robin's translation. Olli was trying so hard to get Chris to talk and admit his feelings, but Chris was shut down. My heart aches for Olli, when it usually sides with Christian. Genau!!
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Post by fromitaly on Nov 23, 2011 15:28:01 GMT -5
'Neurotic and boring need to reject Christian'? Well that's what happens when you cheat on your husband after less than 6 months of marriage . Of course Oli rejected him. It had nothing to do with him being 'neurotic' and more to do with the fact that he was hurt that his husband couldn't keep his hands and lips off other women. Then Christian gave Oli less than 2 months to get over his infidelity before he gave up and moved on Theresa, whilst making no real attempt (i.e one that was not prompted by Charlie) to win Oli back. Now he realises that he should have done more. 'Wait and see' pretty much sums up his crappy and lazy attitude towards fixing his marriage. In my opinion, he now realises this was a mistake and is regretting it. I was amused to see him giving Andi advice. Christian and Andi should not give each other advice on love ever. They are terrible at it..... ;D Christian was guilty of not listening to Oli about the baby issue also. Their communication during that period was terrible on both sides. It also doesn't justify Christian's infidelity nor mean that Oli should forgive Christian's betrayal quicker. Christian had every right to be angry with Oli. He did not have the right to cheat... However, this is the wrong place to have this discussion so I'll say no more about it in here. I think we've already pretty much established that we'll never agree on this issue anyway.... I just thought it was interesting to hear Christian say that because it's the first time where in my opinion (you view it differently obviously) that he acknowledged that he was guilty of not trying hard enough to win Oli back. I agree completely! And then, as I already said, I think Christian deserves to suffer a bit. When he cheated Olli (not to mention the night with Jessica! For this I try to give him the benefit of the doubt) they were only in pause; Olli now sleeps with Raphael but they are already about to get a divorce. From my point of view this is a big difference and in fact I'll never put their behaviour on the same plane...for me the not good Olli's behaviour it always been a consequence of wrong Christian's behaviour (except when he didn't believe in the Christian's words about Rob) so I wanted to see that we're seeing now, he deserves this pain. It's a taste of your medicine, Christian!
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Post by maya on Nov 23, 2011 15:35:05 GMT -5
Well technically Olli is the one who run away to spend a romantic holiday with someone else, so I'm not surprised that Christian reacted the way he did.
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Post by bel7003 on Nov 23, 2011 16:39:50 GMT -5
From my point of view this is a big difference and in fact I'll never put their behaviour on the same plane... Neither do I, because Christian made a mistake by sleeping with Theresa (we don't know about Jessica), but he never once throughout this ordeal rejected Olli.
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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 23, 2011 16:39:57 GMT -5
Oh please!Am I supposed to feel sad that Olli is incapable of dealing with his feelings for Christian or am I supposed to oblige Chris to read Olli's mind which goes ''Oh please I have to run away from my feelings for Chris ideally blowing Rafa to forget''
Well old Chris is back and I am surprised the writers didnt have him slap Olli or punch Rafa after the grotesque display of horny love (which btw is bs).
A taste of his own medicine?When did the writers have Olli witnessing first hand multiple making out scenes with Christian's flings?This is totally out of line.Chris has every right to freak out after Olli's intense and prolonged drama queen neurosis that reads ''I am rejecting you bsc my hysteria gets the better of me''
A taste of his own medicine would be if the writers decided to treat Chris and Olli on the same basis regarding the making out scenes and not ridicule Chris.On top of that we have expectations that he should not react.I mean spare me!!! Chris should have kicked the hell out of both of them and rightfully so
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Post by lolaruns on Nov 23, 2011 16:43:02 GMT -5
A right to freak out to the extend of physical violence at the guy who he's broken up with and three days away from divorce for having a new relationship? One that Christian was previously aware of. After Christian already had his own "comfort/distraction" fling as well?
Sure it's unfortunate that he ran into them at Charlie's place but that was a genuine misunderstanding.
IMO it matters that they were in limbo after the Jessica night and Christian started it with opening up whatever they had to new, outside people by hooking up with Theresa. He's the one who opened that door and now he wants to complain? They are at least in much in limbo as they were back then, heck even more because they already have divorce papers signed and sent.
I don't think that Olli deserves to be dumped on just because he treats the people he sleeps with a modicum of politeness rather than mere exercise toys like Chris does. If Chris' flings mean that little to him then why bother having them in the first place.
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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 23, 2011 16:50:08 GMT -5
Just to note that my reference to physical violence is figurative language to express intensely my objection to having Chris watch them making out multiple times.Obviously I do not promote physical violence
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Post by MercuryMay on Nov 23, 2011 16:52:07 GMT -5
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Post by GiGi on Nov 23, 2011 16:57:53 GMT -5
I got the complete opposite from Robin's translation. Olli was trying so hard to get Chris to talk and admit his feelings, but Chris was shut down. My heart aches for Olli, when it usually sides with Christian. Genau!! ;D Genau Like saying "hell yeah." Pronounced Guh-now, this is the German word for exactly. Very frequently used due to the nature of the German language. If you want to ask someone a question you usually make a statement and they affirm or reject it. For example, Question: Are you going to the movies tonight? Answer: Yeah, genau. Used by English speakers to affirm anything, especially something that is awesome. Hey look at that hot girl... Genau! Man this weed is awesome... Genau!
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