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Post by marya on Nov 22, 2011 16:48:16 GMT -5
rafi papagullo ? is it a joke or it means somethings ?
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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 22, 2011 16:53:55 GMT -5
You have to hand it to Schölermann though!His facial expressions are the best ever in VL.He is a natural
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Post by MercuryMay on Nov 22, 2011 16:56:54 GMT -5
'Rafi Papagullo', whatever that means . Is that some German joke that's totally gone over my head? Please read the info in the description box of the video. (If I got a euro for every time I say this, I'd be rich. )
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Post by candyflossuk on Nov 22, 2011 16:59:23 GMT -5
Nice to See Christian finally admit that he had a 'wait and see' attitude regarding winning Oli back. I've always maintained that Christian knows he didn't do enough to fight for him. He waited for Oli because he's used to Oli forgiving him. Now he realises he should have fought harder but it's too late because Oli has ran off with 'Rafi Papagullo', whatever that means . Is that some German joke that's totally gone over my head? Open to interpretation actually.One could say that he just waited to see if Olli gets a grip with his neurotic and boring need to reject Christian I actually think that Job's patience is nothing compared to Christian's patience regarding Olli 'Neurotic and boring need to reject Christian'? Well that's what happens when you cheat on your husband after less than 6 months of marriage . Of course Oli rejected him. It had nothing to do with him being 'neurotic' and more to do with the fact that he was hurt that his husband couldn't keep his hands and lips off other women. Then Christian gave Oli less than 2 months to get over his infidelity before he gave up and moved on Theresa, whilst making no real attempt (i.e one that was not prompted by Charlie) to win Oli back. Now he realises that he should have done more. 'Wait and see' pretty much sums up his crappy and lazy attitude towards fixing his marriage. In my opinion, he now realises this was a mistake and is regretting it. I was amused to see him giving Andi advice. Christian and Andi should not give each other advice on love ever. They are terrible at it..... ;D
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Post by candyflossuk on Nov 22, 2011 17:02:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation Philos and MercuryMay .
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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 22, 2011 17:13:50 GMT -5
Open to interpretation actually.One could say that he just waited to see if Olli gets a grip with his neurotic and boring need to reject Christian I actually think that Job's patience is nothing compared to Christian's patience regarding Olli 'Neurotic and boring need to reject Christian'? Well that's what happens when you cheat on your husband after less than 6 months of marriage . Of course Oli rejected him. It had nothing to do with him being 'neurotic' and more to do with the fact that he was hurt that his husband couldn't keep his hands and lips off other women. Then Christian gave Oli less than 2 months to get over his infidelity before he gave up and moved on Theresa, whilst making no real attempt (i.e one that was not prompted by Charlie) to win Oli back. Now he realises that he should have done more. 'Wait and see' pretty much sums up his crappy and lazy attitude towards fixing his marriage. In my opinion, he now realises this was a mistake and is regretting it. I was amused to see him giving Andi advice. Christian and Andi should not give each other advice on love ever. They are terrible at it..... ;D Nah,that's what happens when u have Olli's total lack of understanding for the well founded doubts of Christian over the baby issue....which lead to a communication break down and ended with the so called ''3sum''. As I said its pretty obvious that Christian's ''wait and see'' attitude had more to do with the fact that he is at least a runner up for being quoted in the Bible as an example of human patience and perseverance (tbh Job is second best in my opinion) rather than him being somewhat remorseful for something.
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Post by GiGi on Nov 22, 2011 17:50:43 GMT -5
OK, I kinda just fell in love with Jessica a little bit here. "I'm strong, I'm confident. I take charge of my life." "I'd like to have some of your drugs." She was hilarious!
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Post by candyflossuk on Nov 22, 2011 18:10:13 GMT -5
'Neurotic and boring need to reject Christian'? Well that's what happens when you cheat on your husband after less than 6 months of marriage . Of course Oli rejected him. It had nothing to do with him being 'neurotic' and more to do with the fact that he was hurt that his husband couldn't keep his hands and lips off other women. Then Christian gave Oli less than 2 months to get over his infidelity before he gave up and moved on Theresa, whilst making no real attempt (i.e one that was not prompted by Charlie) to win Oli back. Now he realises that he should have done more. 'Wait and see' pretty much sums up his crappy and lazy attitude towards fixing his marriage. In my opinion, he now realises this was a mistake and is regretting it. I was amused to see him giving Andi advice. Christian and Andi should not give each other advice on love ever. They are terrible at it..... ;D Nah,that's what happens when u have Olli's total lack of understanding for the well founded doubts of Christian over the baby issue....which lead to a communication break down and ended with the so called ''3sum''. As I said its pretty obvious that Christian's ''wait and see'' attitude had more to do with the fact that he is at least a runner up for being quoted in the Bible as an example of human patience and perseverance (tbh Job is second best in my opinion) rather than him being somewhat remorseful for something. Christian was guilty of not listening to Oli about the baby issue also. Their communication during that period was terrible on both sides. It also doesn't justify Christian's infidelity nor mean that Oli should forgive Christian's betrayal quicker. Christian had every right to be angry with Oli. He did not have the right to cheat... However, this is the wrong place to have this discussion so I'll say no more about it in here. I think we've already pretty much established that we'll never agree on this issue anyway.... I just thought it was interesting to hear Christian say that because it's the first time where in my opinion (you view it differently obviously) that he acknowledged that he was guilty of not trying hard enough to win Oli back. I keep changing my mind about Jessica. I like her and I always have but she does seem to be in every Christian and/or Oli scene at the minute, just for the sake of it.
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Post by Trish on Nov 22, 2011 18:13:34 GMT -5
ACtually Chris wanted to have some of J's drugs. Her life affirmations were pretty funny, but they don't get you much if you have absolutely not experience. Interesting that once again she pulled the not calling any replacement models card, like she did to try and get Kim in trouble at the photoshoot and again, it worked out for her.
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Post by Trish on Nov 22, 2011 18:14:54 GMT -5
Nah,that's what happens when u have Olli's total lack of understanding for the well founded doubts of Christian over the baby issue....which lead to a communication break down and ended with the so called ''3sum''. As I said its pretty obvious that Christian's ''wait and see'' attitude had more to do with the fact that he is at least a runner up for being quoted in the Bible as an example of human patience and perseverance (tbh Job is second best in my opinion) rather than him being somewhat remorseful for something. Christian was guilty of not listening to Oli about the baby issue also. Their communication during that period was terrible on both sides. It also doesn't justify Christian's infidelity nor mean that Oli should forgive Christian's betrayal quicker. Christian had every right to be angry with Oli. He did not have the right to cheat... However, this is the wrong place to have this discussion so I'll say no more about it in here. I think we've already pretty much established that we'll never agree on this issue anyway.... I just thought it was interesting to hear Christian say that because it's the first time where in my opinion (you view it differently obviously) that he acknowledged that he was guilty of not trying hard enough to win Oli back. I keep changing my mind about Jessica. I like her and I always have but she does seem to be in every Christian and/or Oli scene at the minute, just for the sake of it. I'm glad you't happy. Let's hope we can get Olli admitting that he pushed Chris away, just one too many times.
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Post by andc39 on Nov 22, 2011 18:43:30 GMT -5
Christian was guilty of not listening to Oli about the baby issue also. Their communication during that period was terrible on both sides. It also doesn't justify Christian's infidelity nor mean that Oli should forgive Christian's betrayal quicker. Christian had every right to be angry with Oli. He did not have the right to cheat... However, this is the wrong place to have this discussion so I'll say no more about it in here. I think we've already pretty much established that we'll never agree on this issue anyway.... I just thought it was interesting to hear Christian say that because it's the first time where in my opinion (you view it differently obviously) that he acknowledged that he was guilty of not trying hard enough to win Oli back. I keep changing my mind about Jessica. I like her and I always have but she does seem to be in every Christian and/or Oli scene at the minute, just for the sake of it. I'm glad you't happy. Let's hope we can get Olli admitting that he pushed Chris away, just one too many times. Actually, Olli all ready has way back in July. He admitted it to Charlie, just before he saw Christian and Theresa making out in the hallway..
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Post by Trish on Nov 22, 2011 18:46:54 GMT -5
I'm glad you't happy. Let's hope we can get Olli admitting that he pushed Chris away, just one too many times. Actually, Olli all ready has way back in July. He admitted it to Charlie, just before he saw Christian and Theresa making out in the hallway.. Actually Charlie said that he was doing it. He didn't really admit it.
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Post by andc39 on Nov 22, 2011 19:09:53 GMT -5
Actually, Olli all ready has way back in July. He admitted it to Charlie, just before he saw Christian and Theresa making out in the hallway.. Actually Charlie said that he was doing it. He didn't really admit it. Charlie pointed out the fact that Olli kept pushing Christian away, and Olli's responce was " I know" that's an admission. Either way, That happened 4 months ago, and I shouldn't comment on it here..
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Post by Trish on Nov 22, 2011 19:39:05 GMT -5
Actually Charlie said that he was doing it. He didn't really admit it. Charlie pointed out the fact that Olli kept pushing Christian away, and Olli's responce was " I know" that's an admission. Either way, That happened 4 months ago, and I shouldn't comment on it here.. So did all this other stuff, but yet. It still gets brought up. The reason they are apart has nothing to do with J or T or the teen guys. The reason they are apart, is because they are too stupid to admit that they want to be together.
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Post by angelarose on Nov 22, 2011 20:01:34 GMT -5
Thanks for the caps, Joanna and the video, May!
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Post by andc39 on Nov 22, 2011 20:07:32 GMT -5
Charlie pointed out the fact that Olli kept pushing Christian away, and Olli's responce was " I know" that's an admission. Either way, That happened 4 months ago, and I shouldn't comment on it here.. So did all this other stuff, but yet. It still gets brought up. The reason they are apart has nothing to do with J or T or the teen guys. The reason they are apart, is because they are too stupid to admit that they want to be together. True, I agree with you there..
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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 22, 2011 21:08:15 GMT -5
Nah,that's what happens when u have Olli's total lack of understanding for the well founded doubts of Christian over the baby issue....which lead to a communication break down and ended with the so called ''3sum''. As I said its pretty obvious that Christian's ''wait and see'' attitude had more to do with the fact that he is at least a runner up for being quoted in the Bible as an example of human patience and perseverance (tbh Job is second best in my opinion) rather than him being somewhat remorseful for something. Christian was guilty of not listening to Oli about the baby issue also. Their communication during that period was terrible on both sides. It also doesn't justify Christian's infidelity nor mean that Oli should forgive Christian's betrayal quicker. Christian had every right to be angry with Oli. He did not have the right to cheat... However, this is the wrong place to have this discussion so I'll say no more about it in here. I think we've already pretty much established that we'll never agree on this issue anyway.... I just thought it was interesting to hear Christian say that because it's the first time where in my opinion (you view it differently obviously) that he acknowledged that he was guilty of not trying hard enough to win Oli back. I keep changing my mind about Jessica. I like her and I always have but she does seem to be in every Christian and/or Oli scene at the minute, just for the sake of it. Well I think it is perfectly all right to talk about it if it justifies Christian's ''wait and see'' attitude and no off course Christian was not guilty at all when he had to deal with Olli's constant tantrums and totally self-centered notion of having a family without taking into account any of Christian's feelings on the baby issue. All in all the ''wait and see'' attitude that Christian shows in today's episode is a continuation of his EPIC patience to deal with the intensely neurotic nature of his ex partner who had been acting pretty much like a drama queen for like months.
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Post by bel7003 on Nov 23, 2011 2:18:10 GMT -5
OK, I kinda just fell in love with Jessica a little bit here. "I'm strong, I'm confident. I take charge of my life." "I'd like to have some of your drugs." She was hilarious! Yes, Jessica was hilarious here. ;D But Christian does need to take some of those drugs. Specially to get to the part about taking charge of his own life. The problem with Chistian, right now, is that he has been doing what Olli wants (giving time, keeping distance) and every time he tries to actually do something, he hits against the wall Olli built around himself and bounces back. He's a strong boxer; he should realize that the best defense is an attack! Not that I suggest he should attack Olli... or maybe he should, in a good way, just to make things clear... because Olli is too afraid to do anything either. As for Olli, I do think the ball is in his mid-field. He's the one who took all the steps toward the break up: he dumped Christian, took his things away, kept pushing him away, decided they should give up and divorce and, on top of it all, made it clear to Christian he wanted to be with Rafa, by leaving with him and not even saying goodbye to Christian. He has reasons to be afraid, of course, and he's probably waiting for Christian to come knock down that wall. But he has let his rejection go too far. He should have some of Jessica's drugs, as well. Christian was wrong sleeping with Theresa; Olli is wrong sleeping with Rafa. And we all know two wrongs don't make a right.
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Post by teachgirl on Nov 23, 2011 8:41:40 GMT -5
Yes, Jessica was hilarious here. ;D But Christian does need to take some of those drugs. Specially to get to the part about taking charge of his own life. The problem with Chistian, right now, is that he has been doing what Olli wants (giving time, keeping distance) and every time he tries to actually do something, he hits against the wall Olli built around himself and bounces back. He's a strong boxer; he should realize that the best defense is an attack! Not that I suggest he should attack Olli... or maybe he should, in a good way, just to make things clear... because Olli is too afraid to do anything either. As for Olli, I do think the ball is in his mid-field. He's the one who took all the steps toward the break up: he dumped Christian, took his things away, kept pushing him away, decided they should give up and divorce and, on top of it all, made it clear to Christian he wanted to be with Rafa, by leaving with him and not even saying goodbye to Christian. He has reasons to be afraid, of course, and he's probably waiting for Christian to come knock down that wall. But he has let his rejection go too far. He should have some of Jessica's drugs, as well. Christian was wrong sleeping with Theresa; Olli is wrong sleeping with Rafa. And we all know two wrongs don't make a right. I really like this post, @bel. I noticed that the dialogue in the two episodes in which Christian seems to show some insight into his own behavior -- the response to Jessica about taking charge that you point out here, as well as the comment to Andi about sitting back and waiting that @candy noticed -- were written by two different writers. For once they seem to at least be communicating a little bit and showing some continuity.
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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 23, 2011 12:35:02 GMT -5
Just watched today's eppy
Ok Chris went mental when he caught Olli and Rafa making out naked.Man I loved it.HE WENT LIKE TOTALLY MENTAL!
Nice to see old Christian back!Tbh I would also freak out if I witnessed something like that.I think Chris restrained himself, I for one would totally get physical if I witnessed something like that ;D
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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 23, 2011 12:52:12 GMT -5
btw If my German is any good the divorce is terminated in 3 or 30 something plus Rafa says to Jessica he is totally in love with Olli (he seemed pretty serious and dramatic about it)
Also when Chris and Olli met in the farm from some random German words here and there I think they decided in the end to ''remain friends'' or something along these lines
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Post by Trish on Nov 23, 2011 13:14:14 GMT -5
Thanks for that bit, but I think I will wait for the translations.
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Post by dalphine on Nov 23, 2011 13:18:37 GMT -5
Just finish watching todays show and I love it and even thou I speak no german, I could tell that Rafael is totally in love with Olli. I think Jessica found her another friend in Rafael again don't speak the language, but I think Rafael knew something about the shoes. The only thing I could have done without is the Majorcia stuff.
MMay... I'm not rushing you but I can't wait tell you sub todays show so I tell what was actually said.
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Post by Trish on Nov 23, 2011 13:22:21 GMT -5
Just finish watching todays show and I love it and even thou I speak no german, I could tell that Rafael is totally in love with Olli. I think Jessica found her another friend in Rafael again don't speak the language, but I think Rafael knew something about the shoes. The only thing I could have done without is the Majorcia stuff. MMay... I'm not rushing you but I can't wait tell you sub todays show so I tell what was actually said. I think he said that he had a job working with shoes. She he had some knowledge. I like it better when she didn't like him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 13:25:06 GMT -5
Olli and Rafael so for me it's pretty clear now why Olli and Rafael are together, even after today's episode ... and I loved Rafael and Jessica scene
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