silviam11
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Post by silviam11 on Oct 25, 2011 18:53:27 GMT -5
Thank you, May! I don't like seeing Chris suffering like that just because he thought it was the right thing to do.
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JWfan
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Post by JWfan on Oct 25, 2011 18:56:07 GMT -5
Thank you MM
I actually agreed with everything Dana said - early on Christian was only thinking about himself and keeping his job. He didn't care who came out on top, Dana or Theresa.
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silviam11
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Post by silviam11 on Oct 25, 2011 18:58:34 GMT -5
Thank you MM I actually agreed with everything Dana said - early on Christian was only thinking about himself and keeping his job. He didn't care who came out on top, Dana or Theresa. Yes, because his job was training both of them! And at the beginning he didn't know what kind of b***h T was!
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Post by JWfan on Oct 25, 2011 19:02:33 GMT -5
Thank you MM I actually agreed with everything Dana said - early on Christian was only thinking about himself and keeping his job. He didn't care who came out on top, Dana or Theresa. Yes, because his job was training both of them! And at the beginning he didn't know what kind of b***h T was! I think he always knew what kind of b***h Theresa was.
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Post by Nasos29 on Oct 25, 2011 19:06:12 GMT -5
Anyway firing Chris is one of the reasons for VL to make more drama for the character so we will feel for him in the future in case he tries to fight back for Olli.Typical soap stuff
Whatever...I really feel for him now
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silviam11
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Post by silviam11 on Oct 25, 2011 19:09:23 GMT -5
Yes, because his job was training both of them! And at the beginning he didn't know what kind of b***h T was! I think he always knew what kind of b***h Theresa was. It was his job, anyway. As a pro, he had to treat both equally. Whether he knew that or not, we'll never know for sure. We can only think "yes" or "no"
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Post by philos on Oct 25, 2011 19:13:27 GMT -5
Thank you MM I actually agreed with everything Dana said - early on Christian was only thinking about himself and keeping his job. He didn't care who came out on top, Dana or Theresa. In this case, I agree with you; when Christian talk with Olli the first time, he mentioned only his job. Olli said that also Dana and Hagen will loose all, so Chris was thinking only about himself, at least at the beginning. I'm glad that today Olli say him to talk only after the derby; in this moment, this is the best choice, but unfortunately Christian take a mistake mentioning Theresa.
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silviam11
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Post by silviam11 on Oct 25, 2011 19:19:17 GMT -5
I'm glad that today Olli say him to talk only after the derby; in this moment, this is the best choice, but unfortunately Christian take a mistake mentioning Theresa. He felt a need to do that, because Dana was feeling too isecure about the possibility of having another "accident".
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Post by Nasos29 on Oct 25, 2011 19:32:58 GMT -5
and spare me the hideous Olli scarfs yet again...I mean VL wardrobe dep WAKE UP!!
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Post by Trish on Oct 25, 2011 19:47:24 GMT -5
Yes, because his job was training both of them! And at the beginning he didn't know what kind of b***h T was! I think he always knew what kind of b***h Theresa was. Yeah he did,but she was hired as the jockey and as far as he was concerned, her personality had noting to do with it. He actually felt that her attitude was part of her fighitng spirit. Dana's rant about Chris only caring about his job was after he found out about T and yes he did care about his job, but mostly he cared about the team, which is what he told Olli and how much winning the race meant to Hagen. So Dana wasn't right about that.
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Post by sonia38 on Oct 25, 2011 19:55:55 GMT -5
Thanks MM for the vid. Why does the wardrobe dept does such disservice to the character of Olli, that scarf and those pants he was wearing today was hideous.
Poor Christian he has now hit rock bottom, he has lost everything.
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Post by blaykee on Oct 25, 2011 19:59:20 GMT -5
Thanks MM for the vid. Why does the wardrobe dept does such disservice to the character of Olli, that scarf and those pants he was wearing today was hideous. Poor Christian he has now hit rock bottom, he has lost everything. and those shoes were so distracting.
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Post by angelarose on Oct 25, 2011 20:09:39 GMT -5
Thank you MM I actually agreed with everything Dana said - early on Christian was only thinking about himself and keeping his job. He didn't care who came out on top, Dana or Theresa. In this case, I agree with you; when Christian talk with Olli the first time, he mentioned only his job. Olli said that also Dana and Hagen will loose all, so Chris was thinking only about himself, at least at the beginning. I'm glad that today Olli say him to talk only after the derby; in this moment, this is the best choice, but unfortunately Christian take a mistake mentioning Theresa. When Christian found out about Theresa causing the accident and spoke to Olli about it the first time in the hallway he wasn't only thinking about himself and he didn't only mention his own job. Olli asked him why he wasn't saying anything, if something was still going on between him and Theresa and Christian said it was about the racing team, that they need to win the derby or they can close up shop. So he wasn't only considering his own job, he was taking all their jobs and the future of the stud farm into consideration also. Yes, Olli elaborated by rattling off all the consequences to all of them if he turned Theresa in and they didn't win the derby, but Christian mentioned the racing team/stud farm as a whole and trying to save it from the beginning. Dana wasn't right that Christian was only thinking of himself and his own career.
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Post by sonia38 on Oct 25, 2011 20:25:13 GMT -5
Thanks MM for the vid. Why does the wardrobe dept does such disservice to the character of Olli, that scarf and those pants he was wearing today was hideous. Poor Christian he has now hit rock bottom, he has lost everything. and those shoes were so distracting. Oh yea, those shoes, you are so correct. I was like, what is up with those shoes, they were also a tad on the ugly side.
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Trish
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Post by Trish on Oct 25, 2011 20:38:28 GMT -5
Jo felt the same way. Remember he mentioned them in the visit to the set.
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Post by blaykee on Oct 25, 2011 20:42:58 GMT -5
about the shoes? smart man
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Post by bel7003 on Oct 26, 2011 1:43:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the caps, Joanna. Poor Christian, I hate to see him cry. He did nothing but try to help Dana, getting her healthy and prepared for the derby, finding the bootmaker, encouraging and motivating her and this is what he gets for his troubles. Obviously he wasn't trying to stab her in the back or betray her since he was so intent on getting her ready to race and was always on her side, and even was outwardly shunning Theresa. And he tried to do right by Hagen and save the stud farm and all their jobs only to end up getting fired anyway. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and they'll realize Christian was only trying to do the right thing. And he even defended her before Hagen, at NL, explaining why she had reason to be upset with Theresa (and got fired in the process). Looks like no one is willing to listen to Christian or try to understand his motives. As usual. Thanks, MM and Joanna.
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Post by phoenix-feather on Oct 26, 2011 2:32:59 GMT -5
You know, when I watched those horrendous Chris/Theresa scenes, I thought watching Chris suffer will be therapeutic to my eyes, but seeing him cry every other day nowadays is just sad He cried when Lilly left, when Olli left for Mallorca leaving his ring behind, then he used to cry during those random punching bag sessions, then he cried when he was about to sign the divorce papers, then yesterday..... that's a lot of crying for someone who is famous for not showing his emotions.....it is more than we got collectively in the last 3 years.....
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Post by robblack on Oct 26, 2011 3:04:38 GMT -5
I know, Ollis awful wardrobe is a grateful topic for the comments of all episodes of this show, and I also hate the way Olli is dressed - especially in the last few episodes , bc I think he is too handsome to be dressed in such ugly clothes ... but I think it´s evident ,that the wardrobe department doesn´t intend to change that- that's why it seems to me the eternal remarks on Ollis ugly clothes quite pointless , and it became slowly boring and annoying ,sorry - just my opinion. if others enjoy it so much , than have fun ... but it´s the same as we would like to refer in each episode to Jessicas tacky clothes or Andis dumb faces , or Christians crooked legs, - it's also something that will not change . but as I said , it´s just my opinion and if you like it , have fun the last episode : it´s not nice to see Christian crying - it's just as heartbreaking as to see Olli crying . and it´s clear that Christian cries every time he thinks , he is losing someone /something very important to him - Lilly, his love Olli, his job. it's not nice to see him like that , because I hate to see Olli and Christian suffering, but it´s understandable that he is sad .
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Post by sonia38 on Oct 26, 2011 9:58:28 GMT -5
I really don't see the point of not commenting on Olli's outfits, most of the times they are hideous and sometimes they look fabulous and when they do, I can't gush enough about it. Olli's outfits is a topic of conversation most of the time anyway, It's a part of the show afterall.
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Post by blaykee on Oct 26, 2011 10:35:04 GMT -5
I really don't see the point of not commenting on Olli's outfits, most of the times they are hideous and sometimes they look fabulous and when they do, I can't gush enough about it. Olli's outfits is a topic of conversation most of the time anyway, It's a part of the show afterall. I agree, and like Anthony from AfterElton said it's distracting. Commenting on Christian's legs, however, is something that can't change and is insulting to the ACTOR that plays him, something I would never do to Jo.
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Post by candyflossuk on Oct 26, 2011 10:48:23 GMT -5
I really don't see the point of not commenting on Olli's outfits, most of the times they are hideous and sometimes they look fabulous and when they do, I can't gush enough about it. Olli's outfits is a topic of conversation most of the time anyway, It's a part of the show afterall. I agree. Normally I wouldn't bother commenting on Oli's outfits because they have been scarfed/clown coloured for ages now. However recently I've noticed that the wardrobe department have surpassed themselves with hideous outfit choices for Oli. Just when you think things cant get any worse, out comes the blue suite and matching scarf combo. Sometimes the outfits are so hideous that I keep getting distracted from what Oli is actually saying.... The most frustrating thing is that Jo is getting better and better looking and the hideous outfits he wears do him no justice at all. There are times when I honestly wonder how Christian can find him attractive when dressed the way he is and I say that as someone who thinks Jo Weil is gorgeous! Anyway, since I dont find any of this stables/evil Theresa business to be remotely interesting, I find Oli's rainbow coloured wardrobe to be a more exciting topic of conversation ;D. I feel sorry for Christian losing his job but also kind of glad in away because 'stables Christian' is really dull.
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Post by dalphine on Oct 26, 2011 11:04:35 GMT -5
I wonder does Jo laugh when he sees what clothes he has to wear.
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Post by amk on Oct 26, 2011 11:28:53 GMT -5
It may seem strange, but Christian probably sees Olli attractive enough, despite the awful awful clothes - he even made compliments to Olli in the last episodes ... or maybe those ugly rags are the real reason why Christian had affairs with women? - just kidding.... ;D but I also think , that Jo is just gorgeous , and I think Olli's wardrobe is a crime , because if someone looks at the private photos of Jo , is obvious how amazing and manly he looks in his own clothes ...but at the beginning of Chrolli he was dressed quite "normally" and not so extravagantly as now... I don't get it. the episode with Christian - I quite understand , that Dana is angry and that Hagen can see Christian's behaviour as inappropriate , but their arguments and decisions were exaggerated. Who knows, maybe Christian should really act differently, but in this situation, his behaviour is IMO understandable and excusable, because he acted not only according to his own interests, but also to Hagen's and Dana's and the whole stables .
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Post by kira on Oct 26, 2011 12:00:35 GMT -5
Re yesterday´s ep: It may be questionable if Christian did the right thing by not telling Dana immediately about what Theresa did. However, Hagen and Dana have absolutely no right to occupy the moral high ground. It was Hagen who didn´t want to fire Theresa after she tried to blackmail Dana because of the exact same reason Christian didn´t tell Dana now. They wouldn´t have had a jockey. And Christian wanted to fire her back then. Plus, Dana and Hagen lied to Marlene for months and betrayed her in one of the worst possible ways. Hell, Dana even comforted her sister about her cheating husband! I believe she felt horrible for doing all that and thought it was in Marlene´s best interest but so did Christian when he didn´t tell Dana! So, Dagen´s behaviour is ridiculous. Re Olli´s clothes: Sometimes I wonder what horrible things Jo must have done to the wardrobe people. In the ep he was wearing that absurd blue smurf suit with the matching scarf and the shorts with the oragne shirt and the matching woman flower scarf I literally screamd out loud "OMG" in shock when he appeared on screen. Not to meantion the strange harem pants with those shoes he wore yesterday. ;D And while all of that is certainly funny in a way, I also ask myself when and why VL decided to make Olli a walking cliche? Like it was already said, he used to wear "normal" clothes and sometimes it makes me a little sad what they did to him.
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