jazz73
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Post by jazz73 on Nov 4, 2010 16:18:32 GMT -5
Thank you LadyArmand for putting what I was thinking more eloquently than I ever could.
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Post by tihkon2 on Nov 4, 2010 19:47:20 GMT -5
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Post by tihkon2 on Nov 5, 2010 19:06:57 GMT -5
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jazz73
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Post by jazz73 on Nov 11, 2010 23:03:42 GMT -5
Caught the "Stendan" scenes from the E4 ep on frozenstrawberries' channel on Dailymotion. Wow. I keep thinking this is so good,and it just keeps getting better and better. Brendan really showed how much he cares for Ste, IMO. If the abuse wasn't part of the storyline it would be one of the best love stories on soaps. Interesting how he basically ignored Rae and just went to get Ste. He was attentive,supportive,totally there for Ste. Dare I say he was almost sweet..in his own Brendan way. Then they go an up the ante by bringing in Macca. Favorite part was when Brendan towering over Macca hypocritically tells him he's glad he's alright. And the shot of the three of them outside. Heh. Maybe it's because he had screentime now,or they are doing it on purpose,but Macca certainly pinged my Gaydar in these scenes, he hadn't before. Hearing Amy's mesage was strange because it didn't seem enough to make Ste suspect Brendan.I guess I'd built it up more in my head. But liked the scene when he confronted him. He was pretty calm (for Brendan), and seemed to really want Ste to believe he didn't do it. The touching and affection seemed to me to be different than before. Genuine, instead of trying to manipulate or control. While I question the need for Rae in this storyline. Really, you're in love with Ste? After two "dates" and because he slept with you? After an altimatum. But I did love Macca laying it out for her. Ste and Brenan are a couple. And Brendan protects those he loves and will destroy those that get in his way. Or something like that. I'll have to watch it a few more times.
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Post by cathy29 on Nov 11, 2010 23:43:41 GMT -5
WOW, Ste doesn't have no regrets sleeping with Rae he looked very happy and relaxed until Brendan showed up.He was pissed that Brendan was there.Brendan didn't look shocked seeing them in bed naked.I really liked Brendan caring and hugging Ste shows a bit that he cares for him.I loved Ste being mad pushing Brendan twice Brendan didn't like that at all.But Ste was quick to say sorry to him for accusing him of arson.Shit hit fan Macca telling Rae the truth.about breste.But what the hell Rae is in love with Ste that was too quick come on girl on night of sex and now you love him.Just weird.
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Post by Zathras on Nov 12, 2010 21:26:47 GMT -5
Here's anthony's latest clip. Thanks!
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Post by Zathras on Nov 12, 2010 21:29:36 GMT -5
Grr... Brendan the manipulator . I'll admit that, in the early part of the clip, Brendan almost looked a bit concerned about Amy (considering how important she is to Ste). Seemed a little unusual for him (almost makes him seem respectable -- almost).
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Post by talula on Nov 12, 2010 21:54:59 GMT -5
I think he really was concerned about Ste in hospital, and i'm sure he does care about him in his Brendan' weird way. But yes he is a great manipulator and capable of a lot terrible things.
Looks like Macca is jealous of Ste and Brendan relationship.
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Post by kentuckyfan on Nov 13, 2010 19:06:05 GMT -5
I know that the clip above is dated Nov. 12th, but has anyone else seen the other clip dated Nov 12th that appears to have taken place the next day? Because it has me confused over Ste and Rae.
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Post by Zathras on Nov 13, 2010 20:32:35 GMT -5
You have to be a little careful. That day's episode of Hollyoaks airs on Channel 4. Later that day, the next day's episode airs on the E4 channel. See this article on Wikipedia.
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cheerios
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Post by cheerios on Nov 13, 2010 22:43:41 GMT -5
I think Macca has been waiting a long time for Brendan to change. To leave all the meaness behind him, and for them to be a proper couple. And here he thinks he sees Brendan doing all that with Ste, he doesn't know that Brendan is beating Ste black and blue too.
I think Ste does genuinly care for Rae, one she genuinly cares for him and they don't have some twisted relationship where they abuse each other. That I think they are cute together, maybe Ste is bi or maybe after all the bull Brendan has put him through lately, he's just happy to wake up to a good moment.
When Brendan saw Macca, he was proberbly thinking, "if looks could kill." Does anyone else think that Macca is kind of like Brendan, manlipulating situations to his liking. Macca knows something is going on with Ste and Brendan and he is stirring the pot. Macca knows he's playing with fire with Brendan, but I don't think he can stop.
Brendan deffinatley has a type, Macca and Ste are very similar.
From the looks on Brendan's face, Ste is deffinately going to get a new beating soon. Or something worse is going to happen. But if Brendan hits Ste when Ste was accusing him of setting the fire, then Ste would run out and tell the world what was going on. So he's waiting and buying his time, until he can settle this argument later.
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jazz73
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Post by jazz73 on Nov 14, 2010 3:48:10 GMT -5
I don't know. I really think Brendan was taken aback when Ste accused him of being the arsonist. They are showing that while Brendan is still Brendan he does genuinely care for Ste,and that it's more than sexual. I'm not sure what Macca knows about them, but I agree with you on him seeing a "softer" Brendan with Ste and he wants him back. Did you see Macca's face when he saw Brendan comforting/holding Ste at the hospital? How much do you want to bet he was never like that with him? *sigh* Oh Macca, I can understand because once you go 'stache you never go back. But Brendan doesn't want your Lucky Charms anymore. He's into Hay now.
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Post by cheerios on Nov 14, 2010 14:03:46 GMT -5
I do think Brendan does care for Ste in his own twisted way. I think someone said that abuser do "love" the person they are in the relationship with. But it's not how people normally see love. I sometimes think that Ste is like Brendan's favorite new toy and he's the only one who can play with it.
And then sometimes I think he genuinly cares about him in his own way. He didn't look too happy when he found Ste in bed with Rae or when Ste accused him of starting the fire.
But I don't think Brendan will ever go back to Macca. I believe it was Macca that Brendan's wife found him with. And Brendan will never forgive Macca for this because even though he was living a lie in his marriage. He didn't want anyone he loved to know that part of him existed. He wanted his cake and to be able to eat it too. Now people know about him and he can't see his kids as often as he like. Nope he would rather kill Macca, than get back with him.
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Post by Zathras on Nov 15, 2010 21:06:03 GMT -5
Monday 15 Nov from anthony. Thanks!
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Post by Zathras on Nov 15, 2010 21:16:25 GMT -5
What on earth is Macca thinking? I'm a bit surprised that there was no scene between Ste and Rae where they discussed Macca's comments to her about Ste. Maybe that will come later. So, on one hand we have Warren Fox. Good grief, if anyone could have set the fire, he could have. And, if it suited him, I believe he would have. On the other hand, we have Brendan Brady, who is so desperate to keep his gay proclivities a secret that he's willing to hospitalize even those closest to him. At the moment, I'm inclined to think that he's not quite capable of attempted murder, though I can't completely put it past him.
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sistertwist
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 16, 2010 17:30:13 GMT -5
Do you think the relationship dynamic will change if Brendan wins Ste back to his side? I just don't see Ste letting himself be abused again at this point, but I can imagine them taking up again together once Ste finds out Brendan didn't set the fire. Wishful thinking?
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Post by cathy29 on Nov 16, 2010 17:30:38 GMT -5
Today episode.Ste is still thinking Brenden caused the fire because of his voicemail to Amy.He doesn't want nothing to do with Brenden and he wants him away from him and Rae.But still goes and tells Brenden to stay away and he has prove that he did the arson.Ste is getting on my nerves his going to looks stupid when the truth comes out about the arson then his going to beg Brenden to forgive him.When Brenden slammed Ste on the wall that was hot you feel the sparks between them i really wanted to see a kiss.
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Post by Zathras on Nov 16, 2010 20:40:30 GMT -5
Tuesday, 16 Nov from anthony. Thanks!
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Post by Zathras on Nov 16, 2010 21:05:45 GMT -5
Rae is definitely playing with fire (to borrow a phrase from a YT commenter). I'm not sure what she hopes to accomplish by telling Cheryl that Brendan is gay. Do you think the relationship dynamic will change if Brendan wins Ste back to his side? I just don't see Ste letting himself be abused again at this point, but I can imagine them taking up again together once Ste finds out Brendan didn't set the fire. Wishful thinking? It's hard to say. Thing is, based on Ste's reactions to date, I think he very well could fall into the same pattern with Brendan. He already had that conversation with Amy, where she outlined it to him very well. And he confronted Brendan about it, but then things just went back to the way they were. Today episode.Ste is still thinking Brenden caused the fire because of his voicemail to Amy.He doesn't want nothing to do with Brenden and he wants him away from him and Rae.But still goes and tells Brenden to stay away and he has prove that he did the arson.Ste is getting on my nerves his going to looks stupid when the truth comes out about the arson then his going to beg Brenden to forgive him.When Brenden slammed Ste on the wall that was hot you feel the sparks between them i really wanted to see a kiss. I don't think Ste looks stupid. He's caught in the middle, and I don't think he's wrong at all to suspect Brendan. He knows damn well how paranoid Brendan is about the truth getting out. He already knows how far Brendan is willing to go, and he's worried that Brendan can (and might have) gone farther. I agree that, when the dust settles, if Brendan didn't do it, then Ste may very well try to get Brendan to forgive him. Short of a massive personality change in Brendan, I would consider that a very unfortunate turn of events.
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Post by sistertwist on Nov 17, 2010 5:21:42 GMT -5
Thank you for the response Zathras. The logical part of me agrees with you about a massive personality change, but the fangirl in me simply wants them on screen together. My objectivity has gone out the window so I value the voice of reason even if i don't like what it says. I think until Brendan crosses the line into what I see as inexcusable malice I will hold onto the unrealistic (but soapy) expectation that he can and will change..a bit. I really do think we saw a few baby steps before things got messy, and honestly I just want him to stop hitting Ste. If bren ceases to let fear rule him i think much of the violence will come to an end, and at this point it seems everyone and their sister knows the "big secret" about his sexuality. To continue all the threats seems a bit silly, but soaps sure can get silly.
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 17, 2010 16:10:56 GMT -5
If Brendan is not the arsonist, he will get a very sorry Ste in his hands again. He will do anything to get Brendan forgiveness, and he will be very alone.
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Post by talula on Nov 17, 2010 16:23:48 GMT -5
If Brendan is not the arsonist, he will get a very sorry Ste in his hands again. He will do anything to get Brendan forgiveness, and he will be very alone. Yeah, i almost sure that exactly what going to happen, Ste will feel guilty for blamed Brendan and begs for forgiveness and of course Brendan will forgive Ste but he will not forget to take as more advantages as he can of this situation, i think after this Brendan will have even more power and control on Ste than he had before.
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Post by quan87 on Nov 17, 2010 18:21:39 GMT -5
Today episode.Ste is still thinking Brenden caused the fire because of his voicemail to Amy.He doesn't want nothing to do with Brenden and he wants him away from him and Rae.But still goes and tells Brenden to stay away and he has prove that he did the arson.Ste is getting on my nerves his going to looks stupid when the truth comes out about the arson then his going to beg Brenden to forgive him.When Brenden slammed Ste on the wall that was hot you feel the sparks between them i really wanted to see a kiss. He's not stupid, he is worried for the safety of his kids and the mother of his kids. Sometimes you you have to go with your gut when it comes to family.
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Post by quan87 on Nov 17, 2010 18:25:15 GMT -5
If Brendan is not the arsonist, he will get a very sorry Ste in his hands again. He will do anything to get Brendan forgiveness, and he will be very alone. I agree, with Amy leaving, and taking his children, he won't have anybody in Hollyoaks to keep him uplifted.
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Post by kentuckyfan on Nov 17, 2010 19:40:05 GMT -5
I am excited to see what all Macca does to make sure that he gets Brenden back.
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