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Post by sylstyle on Jan 26, 2010 11:51:54 GMT -5
At least we know what writers think about gay couple One have to be the man and the other one the woman asking for everything That's makes me want to vomit to still see people thinking like that especially for Chrolli Sylvain
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Post by flo86 on Jan 26, 2010 11:55:00 GMT -5
At least we know what writers thinks about gay couple One have to be the man and the other one the woman asking for everything That's makes me want to vomit to still see people thinking like that especially for Chrolli Sylvain omg you are so right
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Post by lugia on Jan 26, 2010 14:15:25 GMT -5
i got confused - i thought olli said he was going to a party, when he was explaining his clothes. and if he did, considering those weren't the clothes he wore to the NL party i thought it might have been in between. but i think i must have imagined it. The vlog was the morning after the "Pepperpunk" party and Olli gushing about his big success. Or maybe the afternoon since Olli asks Gregor on TV to help him tidy up the next morning. The sneak peek is the evening of that day, so a few hours after the vlog/tidying up. This will be the second night in a row that Olli is partying. The first evening was his own No Limits "Pepperpunk" party, the next evening he will be in the harbor with Robert. Explains why Christian was studying dressage during the Pepperpunk party and going to bed early because he would have the test the day after tomorrow. I think we need to clearly "label" the parties from now on because they seem to happen almost daily! Like Mona said, it will feel like weeks of conflict and fighting when it will only be a handful of days in the VL-verse!
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Post by lugia on Jan 26, 2010 14:29:13 GMT -5
The "asking for permission" thing only became really apparent to me when I did the summary. The writing seemed very specific. But I assumed that was mostly because Christian was against it, but not going to spell it out, to throw it back in Olli's face later ("you should've realized that I needed you before the big day"). That's why I wondered if they would intercut Olli partying with Christian having another sleepless night. The second interpretation is that Christian really couldn't care less about parties and what Olli is interested in. I think I would prefer the jealousy, to Christian not getting what the fuss is even about. From Olli's side, I thought he didn't want Christian to feel left out. But it was a bit inconsiderate of his job again to invite him along! Reminded me of the Ibiza debacle when he had exams. But I think that's why Olli asked again if it was really okay because imagining other people party, while you have to fret about a test, is pretty demanding, mentally. I didn't think Olli felt obligated to ask for permission, but Rob interpreted it that way or saw an angle where he could interfere. Then I think about the logistics (which I doubt the writers would). They're sleeping in the same bed, so Olli would wake him up. Unless they always sleep on the couch in such cases. But I doubt it will even come to that because Christian might leave the house before Olli has made it home yet. And Rob will scheme to keep Olli busy, now that he knows the exact time when he's needed back. I'm getting an overall Tristan sense from Rob. Seemed like a fine addition at first, but quickly turned into another Feiler template, aka Ansgar-like baddie, being completely possessive.
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Post by mona on Jan 26, 2010 18:57:08 GMT -5
The "asking for permission" thing only became really apparent to me when I did the summary. The writing seemed very specific. I often think Olli wants to learn from the past and is afraid Christian could be complicated after it + keeping up their married couple vibe when they're domestic. My main problem with Christian is that he will never learn to speak it out. He would never say "I would like to have you here". Olli was very very hesitant in this clip like he actually wants Christian to say something. Robert smiles cute but I don't get how his mood changes happen soon and so on. Almost bad he isn't a nice guy who can fight for Ollis attention afterall. (Then I wouldn't feel like they could do another Lukas thing too) The same way I wished Jens would be nice for Lydia and not a psycho. But Ollis changes aren't better from asking Christian to totally enthusiastic about everything. I'm really looking forward to the episode where they don't make up in the same episode (but even then they seem to live next to each other like it could never change, maybe tension will be just about mentioning Robert or little things again?) Should be one fight they never really end because it's about Robert in their life. The real turning point could be when he thinks Robert is not only not nice but worse. I always thought he would be a "one night stand guy" (Robert) but now I could actually see him as falling in love with Olli in a way where it will explode one day into an obsessive thing. Just that the breaks in the spoiler don't make sense right now.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 26, 2010 20:58:46 GMT -5
Robert's DEFINITELY got the hots for Olli. His flirty little wink, oh lorddd. and then scowling at christian the whole time he was there, smiling as soon as he left. what an ass. lol I do appreciate that Olli kept asking christian if it was ok with him, he alwaysss puts christian before everything, its so sweet
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Post by mona on Jan 26, 2010 21:22:13 GMT -5
Isn't it also possible that Robert only looks like that because he wasn't sure that Christian and Olli are a couple? But it would be cool if we get a scene with Christian trying to sleep but also Robert and Olli having fun together. Just to get why they would get a connection. Christian seems to be a mix of jealousy, disliking and Missgunst. But he doesn't know what he wants. No need for jealousy if Olli asks that way but in the other direction he would feel like Olli doesn't want to stay, then he would without asking. (another thing I hate because he seems to pressure Rebecca into all kind of things soon) If Christian would feel like a "big brother" it's also too much because Christian is strict about family and even Stella is out of it. Feeling like that would make me remember his bond to Gregor and that this sometimes was bigger than to Olli. (but it remembers me of people who wants to pressure people into spending time because they think it's better for the other one than to be depressed at home) So maybe this will really go the way of making brother/sister comments until it's true I'm really really praying for no Rebecca today but my guess is that the first scene of Christian being excited will already be at Königsbrunn with her. god, I really saw the clip a thousand times now and it really looks like Robert loves Ollis laughing and his laugh really is more beautiful than normal here. (so I wonder how Christian can't like all that)
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Post by flo86 on Jan 27, 2010 3:05:16 GMT -5
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Post by lugia on Jan 27, 2010 6:32:03 GMT -5
Olli was very very hesitant in this clip like he actually wants Christian to say something. Just the fact that he was like, "are you really, really, really okay with this" meant to me that deep down he knew Christian wasn't. But I would rephrase in that case (which wouldn't create enough soap conflict). Like, "I know this will suck for you, but I'd really love to take this opportunity to further my career and I'm always supportive of yours, too. In fact, I'll be there tomorrow. And if you say yes now, don't come crying later. I asked for a reason. If you really need me, I'll stay, just be honest about it." ;D But I guess he couldn't speak frankly in front of Rob. Or, like I said, maybe this time Christian truly didn't care, as long as Olli would be there the next day. I know! Super irritating! So far I don't get the vibe at all that he could earnestly fall for Olli. Just in that possessive Jens way and always getting what he wants (Ansgar, Tristan, Eduard). I'm sooo sick of that type of character! I mean, it's positive if he can at no point be considered a "real" threat to Ollian, but that makes watching the whole triangle pointless. This might explain why he isn't showing up in some weeks at all (like Eduard). Where Rebecca, as a central character, still has her own storylines and the persistent buildup with Christian. I almost think Rob is just Olli's "heart disease," a way to start a new career path and good for "some" conflict. I think the key is that he stays sweet! He's completely unsure and overwhelmed with the sudden opportunities, but then enthusiastic to a fault. I like that writing. It will be easy for Rob to use that, but I don't need Olli to be perfect. I'm just so relieved that he isn't going baddie! But that makes Chribecca even more distasteful. Olli keeps making it right to all and working on the relationship, and Christian is crying after Gregor and building cradles with Rebecca.
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Post by lugia on Jan 27, 2010 6:40:28 GMT -5
I'm really really praying for no Rebecca today but my guess is that the first scene of Christian being excited will already be at Königsbrunn with her. Where is that test anyway? I thought they would take Elias to some "horse show" where a bunch of horses and their riders would be tested. But maybe that takes place at Koenigsbrunn? Or it's just about Elias being tested separately with judges coming out to them? I thought Christian would get the clothes at the farm, but it seems like you need to buy them in real-life, at least if you're not sponsored and doing this at a higher level. In the horse magazine, they tested jackets. And Thore even needed to get his own stuff from back then for the show (I really don't think they have duplicates on VL, otherwise they wouldn't have fret about Luise's wedding gown malfunction). It's cool that Thore is as thin again as back then. ;D But my point being that Rebecca will probably give him Ludwig's hat as a good-luck charm. Like, gasp, Olli's keyring.
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Post by mona on Jan 27, 2010 9:30:44 GMT -5
But my point being that Rebecca will probably give him Ludwig's hat as a good-luck charm. Like, gasp, Olli's keyring. arrr, Lugia. No! Then he could tell her he made it because of her (present). I think this episode could work better with only looks from Christian. Sad faces and so on but they aren't subtle anymore so Rebecca will probably be there all the time. I feel cheated from some spoilers anyway but this would be enough. But it could also show something. That she is there but he needs Olli. That her attention is nice but will never be a good replacement. But if that whole horse thing will be her smiling at him when he is riding... Maybe we're lucky today though. But we do know he did shoot the horse scene. I kinda expect a scene where Olli will run to make it and in the meantime we see how Christian has to start and he misses Olli. One episode that is about them is needed and I'm already mad the episode where they hug and make up will be ruined because Rebecca get's a rare alone shot even though it's not her episode POV. I understand everything but it seems like they don't even get episodes just for them when it would be fair after 2 years where the fans are invested. I guess the episode will be Christians POV, not even Ollians so I'm not even hopeful for much Robert/Olli. It's all about Christians feelings and then of course Rebecca would make sense in the writers eyes seeing in the future. It's mostly from Christians side anyway this story. Being disappointed and so on but we rarely get Ollis emotions again and then I simply wonder if the writers didn't read that fans want more focus on Olli for a longer time now. That's why I don't get the Rebecca thing. If she doesn't get Christian, then Olli could have easily had this place and it would have fit a lot better anyway. I think some fans would have been more patient if the "extra story" would have gone to Olli while Christian get's the attention again. (Somestimes I do wonder if Frau Feiler thought that she could get the fans to something else with Christian, thinking that Christian is more popular or the girls would follow so to speak) They alos would have avoided the same crap for Christian. If nothing comes out of it - good but if they planned something I wonder why not at least differently written.
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Post by lugia on Jan 27, 2010 18:20:06 GMT -5
The sneak peek, you guys! The guys are doing up their pants!! *iz ded* Have we ever gotten such a great post-sex scene, or what?
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Post by joanna on Jan 27, 2010 18:23:04 GMT -5
Blooming Nora! Well, Lugia and myself had both decided not to bother doing einslive caps anymore (I won't go into all the whys and wherefores, but it was partly due to capping overload, with all the overlapping going on, etc...)...EXCEPT for when there was a particular 'wowser' scene shown that didn't appear in the Mediathek preview. On those rare occasions, just one cap would be stuck to so an overview to the scene could be given. Well....WOWSER BLOOMING WOWSER ....(You don't know HOW self-restrained I've had to be to only post one cap!!)... LOTS more caps to follow tomorrow...
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Post by mona on Jan 27, 2010 18:30:31 GMT -5
Somehow I wished that in a scene where it's no problem Christian could cuddle a bit more and doesn't look so "concerned" in a way I can't describe because this seems like a happiness moment afterall. But I'm happy there's finally a scene after the sex and not before and the horse riding stuff is cute (even though we probably never see it) and we finally got a time frame of their "growing apart" as a "few weeks" (Although it should be more like a few days). Christian could at least put his arm around Olli and don't touch himself But the timing makes clear it began before Robert and it's from Ollis side as less time. Probably now with the tension it will be even harder and I wonder how that will stop one day.
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Post by joanna on Jan 27, 2010 18:36:49 GMT -5
The sneak peek, you guys! The guys are doing up their pants!! *iz ded* Have we ever gotten such a great post-sex scene, or what? ONE cap for THAT scene!! How on earth did I manage that...for THAT?! I need my brow mopping! I'll make up for it tomorrow, though....
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Post by thunderkat on Jan 27, 2010 18:42:59 GMT -5
Blooming Nora! Well, Lugia and myself had both decided not to bother doing einslive caps anymore (I won't go into all the whys and wherefores, but it was partly due to capping overload, with all the overlapping going on, etc...)...EXCEPT for when there was a particular 'wowser' scene shown that didn't appear in the Mediathek preview. On those rare occasions, just one cap would be stuck to so an overview to the scene could be given. Well....WOWSER BLOOMING WOWSER ....(You don't know HOW self-restrained I've had to be to only post one cap!!)... LOTS more caps to follow tomorrow... OH. MY. FLIPPING GOD!!!! mona! i was wrong!!!! And i'm soooo happy!!! I think Christian is concerned b/c Olli just tricked him into public sex...AGAIN. poor Christian...poor christian and his strained..sweaty....morals.... ;D
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Post by joanna on Jan 27, 2010 18:46:32 GMT -5
Just to note, btw, that although myself and Lugia won't be capping einslive previews anymore (well, except, as I said, for a rare cap to cover a WOWSER clip, like from today's preview!!), Lugia will still post her summaries/translations (both einslive ones and Mediathek ones) and I'll still be doing Mediathek preview caps. Then there are the main episode caps, which I'll still continue to do.x
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Post by joanna on Jan 27, 2010 18:48:52 GMT -5
Blooming Nora! Well, Lugia and myself had both decided not to bother doing einslive caps anymore (I won't go into all the whys and wherefores, but it was partly due to capping overload, with all the overlapping going on, etc...)...EXCEPT for when there was a particular 'wowser' scene shown that didn't appear in the Mediathek preview. On those rare occasions, just one cap would be stuck to so an overview to the scene could be given. Well....WOWSER BLOOMING WOWSER ....(You don't know HOW self-restrained I've had to be to only post one cap!!)... LOTS more caps to follow tomorrow... OH. MY. FLIPPING GOD!!!! mona! i was wrong!!!! And i'm soooo happy!!! I think Christian is concerned b/c Olli just tricked him into public sex...AGAIN. poor Christian...poor christian and his strained..sweaty....morals.... ;D I'm still trying to get over how on earth I managed to be restrained enough to only post the one cap (though I'll be posting a heck of a lot more than 1 cap tomorrow, I can tells ya! )! I actually did make more than one...
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Post by lugia on Jan 27, 2010 18:49:53 GMT -5
Summary for Thursday:
Andi asks if Helena can't simply trust him? She just cannot understand why he can't tell her why he gave that guy money. He doesn't want to drag her into this. If he's in trouble, she should know. He tells her there's no reason to be worried. He hugs her and thanks her.
Christian and Olli had sex in the hay. They're both doing up their pants, have open shirts and disheveled hair. Olli snuggles up to Christian and says, "That's my favorite way of getting woken up." Christian awesomes, "Always again gladly." Olli: "If it would be that simple." Christian: "Yes, there has not been a lot of time in the past few weeks, huh?" "We should definitely not make it a rupture. Oh man, and then I fall asleep during your dressage test! I'm completely sorry!" "And you missed something! The judges were utterly impressed." "Well, you are a great horse coach." "Yeees. Yes! How about a little horseback-riding? Only the great horse coach, you, and the horses." "Hmm. The problem is just that I can not ride!" "Then it's about time that I teach you! So, tomorrow?" "Agreed!" Olli seals it with a kiss. "I won't fall asleep, guaranteed!" "That I will make sure of!" "Oh, now I'm curious!" Olli climbs back on top of Christian.
Elisabeth fell asleep, too. Ludwig did the rest of the work by himself. She says he should've woken her up. He didn't have the heart. Elisabeth looks through the papers and is seriously impressed and thanks him. She asks how she can make it up to him. He did it gladly, it was fun! Elisabeth gets that look. He is worried he messed something up. But she just recognized qualities in him that he shares with her dead husband, his brother Johannes. He can't think of any, aside from having the same parents. But she knows.
Miriam is ending her shift and asks Andi and Helena to pay. Andi takes out his wallet, and a picture of an Argentinian woman and kid falls out, that Helena picks up reluctantly. She jokes if that's his wife and kid that he's keeping from her. Andi explains that's just Anna and her son Pablo that he helped once.
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Post by lugia on Jan 27, 2010 18:55:51 GMT -5
ONE cap for THAT scene!! How on earth did I manage that...for THAT?! I need my brow mopping! I'll make up for it tomorrow, though.... I know! Of all times! I was, like, does this equal as "their wedding" now? But you picked a great cap! I'm so undecided if I want to be Christian or Olli in that scene! Guh! Just think we could get this every week! With no fighting and no Rebecca! I would go (back) to heaven! I love the sneak peek people. They're very sneaky. They could've easily focused on the "Olli brings Rob along" scene from the preview. BTW, I complained about the kiss in the hay, but if they continue the scene like that!!!! These moments, a talk AND sex, make me throw caution out the window completely and believe in the show again! Why don't the writers get a clue if they're capable of writing THAT?!
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Post by joanna on Jan 27, 2010 19:02:11 GMT -5
Christian and Olli had sex in the hay. They're both doing up their pants, have open shirts and disheveled hair. Olli snuggles up to Christian and says, "That's my favorite way of getting woken up." Christian awesomes, "Always again gladly." Olli: "If it would be that simple." Christian: "Yes, there has not been a lot of time in the past few weeks, huh?" "We should definitely not make it a rupture. Oh man, and then I fall asleep during your dressage test! I'm completely sorry!" "And you missed something! The judges were utterly impressed." "Well, you are a great horse coach." "Yeees. Yes! How about a little horseback-riding? Only the great horse coach, you, and the horses." "Hmm. The problem is just that I can not ride!" "Then it's about time that I teach you! So, tomorrow?" "Agreed!" Olli seals it with a kiss. "I won't fall asleep, guaranteed!" "That I will make sure of!" "Oh, now I'm curious!" Olli climbs back on top of Christian.. DANKE, Lugia! A post-sex conversation...which then leads to THAT...*stomps feet and wails like a baby* Ah, why can't VL give us more of that?! I want more of that!! *wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!* ;D
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Post by lugia on Jan 27, 2010 19:03:18 GMT -5
Somehow I wished that in a scene where it's no problem Christian could cuddle a bit more and doesn't look so "concerned" in a way I can't describe because this seems like a happiness moment afterall. But I'm happy there's finally a scene after the sex and not before and the horse riding stuff is cute (even though we probably never see it) and we finally got a time frame of their "growing apart" as a "few weeks" (Although it should be more like a few days). Christian could at least put his arm around Olli and don't touch himself But the timing makes clear it began before Robert and it's from Ollis side as less time. Probably now with the tension it will be even harder and I wonder how that will stop one day. Who is negative now?! Hehe. I generally agree with you, of course. But I'm used to shows talking about the time as the viewer experiences it, not their time. For us it feels like weeks, so they address it like that. I won't take it literal. (Like US dramas counting in seasons, even if there are year-long gaps, putting "24" in about year 12 instead of 8). I was also thinking that, considering Christian implied that he just gave Olli a blow-job, Christian acted a bit withdrawn/embarrassed. Maybe just Thore again. But it was really, really cold on that day, too. Might explain why he was tugging on his shirt. I love that Olli had full access to the bare part of his chest. ;D And being so nervous, fiddling with his belt, was cute, too. Jo had more dialogue, jump-starting the scene, so he couldn't "waste" too much time on getting dressed again. I really love the little touches Jo always adds, though, the snuggling, touching his hair and face, etc. Yes, I've watched this on loop since midnight.
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Post by lugia on Jan 27, 2010 19:07:25 GMT -5
though I'll be posting a heck of a lot more than 1 cap tomorrow, I can tells ya! )! And maybe a few wallpaper onces again. I actually got a bit embarrassed watching this on my screen. Can you imagine watching that in your living room, maybe even just coming across it by accident or with minors watching? Ollian are so much more porny than any other TV couple I know! Their chemistry explodes on screen! "Bombastic." Whee!
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Post by joanna on Jan 27, 2010 19:10:48 GMT -5
And maybe a few wallpaper onces again. Hmm, maybe one or two, yeah!... TOTAL TOLL...as a wise man once said!
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Post by mitsaso on Jan 27, 2010 19:11:13 GMT -5
Olli on top... as it should be.
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