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Post by I ♥ Blaine on Jan 12, 2010 10:41:58 GMT -5
From today's sneaky peeky.... Yummy. ;D
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Post by mona on Jan 12, 2010 18:21:24 GMT -5
Rebecca at Charlies party At least she's standing next to her future husband David Brandner. But I'm so not a fan of Christian doing "everything" for his brother. I guess they have a break at court but where's Olli then? Staying or excusing himself because he needs to go somewhere? I wish they would have done some Ollian team work here as they did with other GreLu moments and they're both there anyway. Also like I said, talking a person into something could be more Ollis job instead of agressive yelling in front of the house but for once I'm happy we don't get some talking maybe like "My brother has to go to prison and I could never live without him" shit. I wonder how the whole thing will work later. It's almost random Olli is there at all if they don't even throw in a little "NL" moment. The Helena and Tristan bit is really great. Full of chemistry I think.
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Post by joanna on Jan 12, 2010 18:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 12, 2010 18:31:13 GMT -5
I agree, mona, helena and tristan have amazinggg chemistry. I really hope they become a couple and i think rebecca asked if christian AND olli were coming, but we know that she's only concerned with one of the boys showing up....
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Post by mona on Jan 12, 2010 18:33:59 GMT -5
I hate how this is the only storyline where they throw things like this in everytime. Of course Rebecca is making this about Ollian (the start of her hanging out with David instead?) and the bit with Ansgar is so WTF. Does he even realize that fast who Olli and Christian are? ;D and normally something like this would never be worth speaking to Rebecca. My concern is that Rebecca will get to know why and rush to the GreLu thing to "support" or Christian will meet someone in Schneiders, the place where you meet all criminals. I guess even if Charlie mentions Ollian as a great lovestory we will get to see Rebeccas face. As if nothing would be more important in 15 years of VL than hinting at that stupid storyline. (Also made me think again that Rebeccas "love" is a big part of their upcoming storyline and they brought it back because of monday)
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Post by lugia on Jan 12, 2010 18:36:42 GMT -5
Luise is helpless. She doesn't have prove that Eduard tried to kill Gregor or against his accusations against Gregor. The attorney has no further questions.
Rebecca asks if Olli and Christian won't come. Charlie says no. Ansgar says, "Sad, cousin?" She looks caught.
Christian tries to appeal to the restorer of the painting to testify in court. He won't open the door.
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Post by joanna on Jan 12, 2010 18:41:13 GMT -5
i think rebecca asked if christian AND olli were coming Didn't hear his name...but that doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't said!
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Post by lugia on Jan 12, 2010 19:26:28 GMT -5
I hate how this is the only storyline where they throw things like this in everytime. I'm interested how much of this anniversary episode is again spelling out loud and clear to new viewers where the storyline is headed. Looks like Christian as hero (taking over from Gregor), Rebecca asking about Christian (like her PDA comment for the last anniversary episode) and the incest. I have to say I LOVED aggressive Christian. Maybe it was the music, but he sounded like old!Christian. He spotted Ludwig/Elisabeth today, too. He's a shipper. ;D I doubt she will. Maybe Jan/Julia to drive the point home about TriHel. When she mentioned Leo/Cecile, I thought they would cut to a Leo flashback! But it was Christian! I wonder why the press release said flashbacks. Will there be time? Normally a clip show is to cut costs, but for an anniversary ep? And the old actors will get paid every time if it's like US programs.
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Post by mona on Jan 12, 2010 20:25:44 GMT -5
I hate how this is the only storyline where they throw things like this in everytime. I'm interested how much of this anniversary episode is again spelling out loud and clear to new viewers where the storyline is headed. Looks like Christian as hero (taking over from Gregor), Rebecca asking about Christian (like her PDA comment for the last anniversary episode) and the incest. Or it's just Christian as the biggest GreLu shipper again. I don't think they would ever replace him as the male part of THE supercouple. That this wouldn't work should be clear to the writers (That's why I only expect/fear a very weak B-C Storyline where Rebecca and David are involved. I mean even next week the Rebecca and Christian bits seem to be separated when the Dabecca thing is the sandwich episode but that Christian isn't material for something else should be obvious) and even IF, VL was never subtle. Then Christian would sit at this party and just when Charlie says "and I hope for all the next love..blablabla" we would see Christian and Rebecca changing looks (being the next couple who is "with the wrong partners") But it seems to be a reminder in a weird situation but who knows if David and Rebecca don't get some chemistry today? Because overall her comment is really not needed for anything. (But it proves again why I don't buy her talking because she really is sad he isn't there and not happy because it's unbearable, that's also why she would be happy if they break up, she says she has no chance but she's thinking something different. That's almost like saying you look bad to get a compliment to me) The only real moment of "the next 15 years" seems to be Ludwig somehow but that's also lame. Hopefully no Leo flashback and if to her death scene, that was one of the best scenes ever and Leo was in it, that's strange Really, everytime I think about Chribecca I can't get over how stupid the writers must be. Maybe as a PBM thing for Ollian but not as the awesome forbidden love. I wish they would update the short Profil pages on the homepage.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 12, 2010 20:36:24 GMT -5
chribecca is pure stupidity. The idea simply ROTS. The writers can't SERIOUSLY be planning a romantic relationship for rebecca and christian, i mean comeeee onnnnnn. Its disgusting and makes me sick just thinking about it. And its depressing how these writers have put a real damper on the great progress chrolli's relationship was making. Their story was really coming together and flowed really nicely, and now all of a sudden, it seems like the boys are taking a billion steps back with all this "rebecca's got a crush on christian" bullshit. Its just so stupid and pointless....
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Post by andre on Jan 12, 2010 20:51:08 GMT -5
Oy! I'm so stupid! It took me a while to realize that this guy who is yelling there is Christian not Gregor. I guess it's because of this hat what he was sporting, Gregor has a similar one and he is always wearing it. ;D ;D
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Post by mona on Jan 12, 2010 20:55:34 GMT -5
Oy! I'm so stupid! It took me a while to realize that this guy who is yelling there is Christian not Gregor. I guess it's because of this hat what he was sporting, Gregor has a similar one and he is always wearing it. ;D ;D I was thinking the same at first ;D The hat is there to make him "cool" I guess When I read this when it came out: www.horizont.net/aktuell/medien/pages/protected/5-Gruende,-warum-Daily-Soaps-so-erfolgreich-sind_88962.html My thoughts are unrelated to that mostly but anyway. I more thought that maybe the "Zielgruppe" from Rebecca are teenies who feel lost and of course fall unlucky in love and this time instead of giving her what she wants they will make the girls hope that in reality the true "prince" is maybe someone else, like the weird guy who's always around you (David). David is the same. The not so successful guy who likes a hot woman and thinks he can't reach her because someone else is better/more attractive. The opposite of "dreams come true" because it's not reality what she sees. Like that making bags is her destiny even though it wasn't what she wanted. (They could have used her Gregor obession but maybe they wanted to get rid of it)
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Post by andre on Jan 12, 2010 21:36:33 GMT -5
The hat is there to make him "cool" I guess I was always making fun of my little brother, who was wearing those: "head-condom", "head-stocking" and so on... ;D (Looks like I went off topic. Let's try to get back. ) I guess this style looks odd for Christian, it's something I rather relate with American rappers and gangs and young guys who try to look cool, like you said. This coat is on the other hand something from the fancy side, which means not Christian either. Altogether it looks like a quite weird combination. I have a feeling that at least one of those two pieces belongs to Thore or he had a big say by buying those for the show. See, I'm never thinking about fashion by watching VL, when somebody is not wearing a completely atrocious piece. But the show just bores me to no end at the moment.
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Post by flo86 on Jan 13, 2010 0:10:00 GMT -5
chribecca is pure stupidity. The idea simply ROTS. The writers can't SERIOUSLY be planning a romantic relationship for rebecca and christian, i mean comeeee onnnnnn. Its disgusting and makes me sick just thinking about it. And its depressing how these writers have put a real damper on the great progress chrolli's relationship was making. Their story was really coming together and flowed really nicely, and now all of a sudden, it seems like the boys are taking a billion steps back with all this "rebecca's got a crush on christian" bullshit. Its just so stupid and pointless.... Writters are just totally obsessed with Rebecca
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 13, 2010 0:30:15 GMT -5
they really are, it BLOWS. We need new writers.....that was number one on my christmas list, and its the only thing I didn't get dahwell, hopefully we will soon, I'm still PRAYING!!!!!!
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Post by lugia on Jan 13, 2010 8:26:56 GMT -5
Or it's just Christian as the biggest GreLu shipper again. But I was talking about future directions. GreLu will be gone soon. New viewers will ask themselves who that hot hero is. But IMO he already was the lead of THE supercouple with Ollian. They could have very well been placed on the first spot in the opening credits, as far as I'm concerned. He was in the banner, the vlog, etc. Maybe the writers think by now that he has "leading man" qualities. But really, it's mostly because I never bought Gregor as the main lead, and here we are. Christian wouldn't be a stretch, if his brother can be one, too. The problem is his partner. They need a huge new aristocratic, epic role. Which is why the prince will be the lead. And TriHel is already in the last spot in the titles. Which leaves B-stories for the rest (LySeb, Christian, etc.). But a few years down the road? When he's not supposed to be the "teen crush" anymore? At first I thought Luise would be for Christian, after all. I think Dabecca doesn't work in my head because it's too easy. She would "date down" like Olivia and she's madly in love with Christian. It feels like she will get her "treat." And Christian is waaay too sweet to her. When Judith was unhappily in love with Fabian and David, they didn't treat her well. Or even Grebecca. Gregor couldn't get rid of her quickly enough! But Christian treats her as his "best friend." It really depends on if Rebecca will laugh about David, let him down easy, or if she gets his hope up. I think the "best buddies" thing is like JuCon and I really want Dabecca. But not as long as Christian is there as the better option (Olivia/Sebastian vs. David). Rebecca won't fall for David. I think she would be super happy if they break up, but she doesn't want to be responsible for it. She waits and waits until there's actual hope. Otherwise she wouldn't be this angel. She will make her move once Christian is "free." But again, how could she think she's more than rebound material, then? Going in circles.... That's why I was excited about Ludwig/Charlie! But now he's practically married off to Elisabeth. And Charlie doesn't even date Luca.
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Post by lugia on Jan 13, 2010 8:34:23 GMT -5
I was thinking the same at first ;D The hat is there to make him "cool" I guess Well, I thought it was a Leo flashback at the holding. I was thinking "character-driven? WTF?" And laughing hard because this "start with ONE character" clearly didn't work for Eine Wie Keine. I prefer full casts like Friends. I'm old-fashioned. But that would be an "adult" story again, a good lesson. The article says how VL is deliberately unrealistic and about wish-fulfillment. I have no clue about current teen movies, but didn't the girl get Zac Efron? The audience certainly wants him. And we are guilty of picking Thore over Sven ourselves. The teen audience wants their teen crush, preferably with a ditzy teen girl they can relate to.
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Post by lugia on Jan 13, 2010 8:38:30 GMT -5
I guess this style looks odd for Christian, it's something I rather relate with American rappers and gangs and young guys who try to look cool, like you said. But he's "on a mission." Like, breaking in, using force to kidnap this guy, if necessary. He already wants to call the police! Thore always reminds me of Richard Dean Anderson. ;D
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Post by jj8899 on Jan 13, 2010 10:58:55 GMT -5
i think either they're playing their cards very close to their chest with where everyone is headed in the ollian/chribecca/dabecca(*and robert*) SL (which makes me nervous but hopeful at the same time) - OR, it's still open ended. that there are gonna be possibilities beyond the intial conclusion (i.e. post - rebecca telling christian how she feels). maybe if the tweens shout loud enough for chribecca and things look comfy and glossy, they'll cater to that. i can't help believing that there is more going on than has been made clear in spoilers and episodes to date. i may just be double guessing the writers - but what we do know, the surface of the SL is such a mess already, i'm inclined to believe they have a plan - even if that plan is NOT having a plan, so to speak. i would like to disregard rebecca. it's like those awful bits in movies when you know something bad is gonna happen and you just want to reach into the screen and sort things out. i would LOVE for them to forget that rebecca was ever in love with christian and set her on a new course - but now they've put it out there, there has to some sort of resolution. and i can't help listening to the wise people who say that the set up doesn't look good. i mean, what's all this 'best friend' rubbish? and gregor's leaving, with luise?! and don't even get me started on them dragging the fucking thing out until it's almost reached breaking point. it doesn't look good. but they aren't unaware of the chrolli fans, or how the chrolli fans feel. and they're lapping up the attention they're getting courtesy of chrolli. so i'm keeping my fingers crossed. but i still think they won't want to 'waste' thore s - if he's staying for a while that is - on a infinite and loving (and gay) chrolli sl. and i just think that cause of the way he's promoted and even the way they write and present the character. but, i don't mind a break up, as long as rebecca isn't the fucking catalyst. that would just shit on almost two years of awesomeness (even though i admit, the chrolli-era post chroust, was more than a little crap in terms of writing and plot, the acting never slipped, even in the most minor scenes).
p.s. i love christian in that hat and coat - it's winter. he needs a hat. and i'd rather that than something 'fancy' like the beige number he was sporting in the summer. when you're that naturally hot, a plain, dark ensemble just highlights it. lucky sod. like the jana funeral episode. with the dark, high collared coat. i loved and envied that look.. *sigh*
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Post by mona on Jan 13, 2010 11:20:42 GMT -5
The "problem" is that Thore got a much better status - especially for girls - when he started being gay on the show ;D He isn't working as the Gregor type. Then I could even picture Olli better as the front leading man with his new look. (So it should be enough to show Christian half naked with Olli as we saw and maybe a little bit Rebecca admiring him) They can still do that but with Ollian ending though. We also thought they make the Rebecca crush so we get more straight love scenes but now they use everything to give us more Ollian love scenes. Like they are obsessed with it suddenly. @lugia But that would exactly be like giving Gregor someone new now ( a guy?). Christian is presented as the "hero" in his biggest lovestory and that's why it's at the end (maybe if they would end without a third part or one dies). Christian is nice to her but not the better option, especially when David plays the "Constantin". I mean, in the spoiler she already was close to "ausnutzen". Right now I more see Robert/Olli, a hard break up and then Rebecca will try her luck (Dabecca storyline) when at the same time olli get's deeper in his own shit and Christian will be the "hero". They bring Nico back, that could have been Christian with her then or whatever. (Although I wonder if maybe Nico/Olli will happen when I read your spoiler pic thing about girls breaking them up). But if they would want Christian as the male hero the new girl should have been IT, not B-story Rebecca with David. That didn't fit in in this thread I guess (But one last thing: I wonder if Jesicca could get mad if Olli helps Andi making her lie obvious? as a trigger to give Rebecca some snarky comments like Olivia sometimes did back then with Lisa?)
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Post by lugia on Jan 13, 2010 11:49:27 GMT -5
it's like those awful bits in movies when you know something bad is gonna happen and you just want to reach into the screen and sort things out. But that would be a different approach, creating a character that you'll "successfully" hate. Feiler said she knows she's done something right when you have a strong reaction to a character, hate them. But I think we're supposed to sympathize with Rebecca, even like her. Even after all these months, I tend to have the opposite reaction to what was intended. Storyline approach (all these good points you made) not factored in, I don't trust MYSELF. I don't get the storyline or I don't want to get it. I need to constantly "translate" it in my head. And that barrier makes me think that the writers are doing a good, clear job, it's just me who cannot see through it. Like a straight guy getting "nothing" from a gay guy or a gay guy from a woman. The signals don't compute. I need a storyline to strike as lightning (for example, Dabecca). Good description! That's maybe why I have reached breaking point about once a month so far. ;D Hmm, so maybe the breakup isn't so catastrophical, then, if you put it this way. I always thought it would negate these two years. Or at least leave a bitter taste looking back on this fandom ten years down the road. But maybe you could pretend it's like when one of them died (Carla/Hanna), that their time was just up or something, not looking at what came before and after. An isolated, valid romance. I always thought the writers didn't want to make Rebecca look bad splitting them up, but they probably don't want CHROLLI to look bad, either, ruining their past and all the international attention. You can really love someone and then just live a new life a decade later. But I'm still watching this as a longterm fan that sees one storyline segue into the next, and no matter how "soft" and drawn out the change, I will never buy into Chribecca. I think I've made the "we all stay friends" point myself before, but I just can't picture Christian and Olli continuing their lives in the same city without lingering feelings. They know too much about each other. Christian being Rebecca's brother and moving to the castle, then marrying a princess of his own one day, would be more believable. That Rebecca's feelings started while Ollian were still happily together is crap. Ha, like when I thought Jo was a better woman than me in Ganze Kerle. Bastards. ;D
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Post by mona on Jan 13, 2010 11:57:11 GMT -5
I think they should have done one extra episode about the flashback thing or something in the internet. All ARD Soaps do that except VL. Then they only mention the whole Leonard saga But once the dream couple is picked Zac Efron is taken And that basically happened with Olli and Christian if the writers like it or not. (The reaction right now is clear in a "teen movie" way. Even some rare Rebecca fans don't want this to happen or I also read opinons about people who want Christian straight again but not with her *lol* ) Isn't that the thing about those couples, that they need to find problems for them but can't give them a "better" true love (concentrating on them in a break up case and give them a getting back together story they never had)? In Christians case they would even ruin the whole arc. If they hate Ollian and wanted someone between they should have picked Olli. It's easier to get into his stuff somehow and Christian seems "auserzählt" when this fails. But now it would seem like Gregor getting a new love again. Christian also wanted Nico but it wasn't the better option. Here I also see Coco = David.
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Post by blondeninjagirl on Jan 13, 2010 12:35:19 GMT -5
that there are gonna be possibilities beyond the intial conclusion (i.e. post - rebecca telling christian how she feels). maybe if the tweens shout loud enough for chribecca and things look comfy and glossy, they'll cater to that. Even if they set up chribecca to happen all romantically and OTP, how long would you think it will last? Nowhere near as long as Ollian. Maybe till the writers change or they notice what the viewers already know? Meaning it sucks! ;D (by sucks i mean Rebecca's character and the actress that plays her) The head writer isn't a big fan of Ollian,(ikr isn't it crazy?) but who knows if deep down they're gunning for "everyone sleeps with everyone" but still manage to hold on to their true loves. Just to give the show some sizzle, but staying glossy. Im not too worried about them pairing Thore off with someone else, I'm really just a lil bit worried if Jo's character gets someone else, I wouldn't want him to. Maybe sleeping around but not getting another love, would make it difficult in the end if they get back together. Of course this all "blah blah thinking if they break up stuff" which I don't believe they will.
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Post by jj8899 on Jan 13, 2010 13:01:05 GMT -5
when i say: "a break up wouldn't be bad" - i'm not voicing the bit in my head which goes: "a *temporary* break up wouldn't be bad". i know it's soppy to relentlessly wish for the best and keep concrete your belief in 'one true love' - but whatever happens (if they break up) i hope chrolli find their way back to eachother, cos they just fit. despite the best wishes of the head writer (whose methods, unfortunately, i am beginning to despise) and production in general - it seems clear to me those two compliment eachother perfectly. their chemistry kind of defies and compromises even the most glaringly, unsubtlely laid out chribecca subterfuge. seriously chrolli blows chribecca apart, still - and how old a pairing are they? when was the last time they had their own SL?! and @lugia, i totally get the whole "am i overthinking their boring, simple SLs? can i just not compute the chribecca lovestory they are setting up? am i actively seeking an alternative, when i'm not sposed to?" kinda thing... and i hate that feeling. not knowing where they are going with this. but then i secretly sorta love it, after months of nothingness. also, jo was a woman? where? when?!
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Post by joanna on Jan 13, 2010 18:13:43 GMT -5
More from the trial...
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