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Post by caitlinp on Oct 30, 2012 8:53:42 GMT -5
And it is always over dramatic, Masood throwing Zainab out of the house and into the street, when he found out that she knew about Syed's sexual orientation, but then when she came back, it's like nothing had happened. Syed asking Zainab for a divorce, when it would have made more sense for him to stand by her side even more, since it was clear that she needed help.
It was pretty much a case of the actress needing a short break, and the writers not being clever enough to come up with a reasonable way to include her absence in the scripts.
Maybe I was too hard on Syed last night. Maybe he can't tell Christian that he loves him, because he is hurt that Christian would think that he slept with Danny. And everybody has been calling him a loser lately, so maybe he thinks that Yasmin would be better off without him.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 30, 2012 10:25:32 GMT -5
Why SHOULD Christian believe in him, when he never said anything about Danny and him TO him in the first place?
If Syed didn't really "feel anything" for Danny, he would have said something to Christian.
Syed felt SOMETHING for Danny and that's something that he's got to look at, in regards to himself, Christian and their marriage. He did this WEEKS before they got married. Not months, not a year......WEEKS.
He self-sabotages himself all the time and then EXPECTS people to forgive him in the end, because they always do. Always.
This WHOLE idea, that Syed has in his mind that EVERYONE should somehow TRUST and UNDERSTAND him and HOW he behaves is mind-boggling to me. Especially after ALL the shit that he does to them, time and time again.
Maybe, he thinks that Yasmin would be better off without him, due to the fact that Christian's more of a father to Yasmin than Syed is?!
It's like the Scorpion and the Hare. Regardless of HOW many times, the scorpion tells the hare to trust him and that he won't sting him, the scorpion DOES sting the hare in the end.
I know that THERAPY is a forbidden word in the fantasy, fictional world of soaps, but there's something really STUNTED about the makeup of the Syed character.
It's not interesting to me, because the show COULD have delved more into why Syed's this way. I'm not saying that he would be transformed overnight, but at LEAST take sometime and effort in going more in depth to what makes him that way.
Why he's SO broken and why he needs to test these people in his life, to see if they really do love him, because what's being written right now, comes across to me as this passive-aggressive way for Syed to see if Christian really loves him.
Which makes Christian come across as utterly desperate to keep a hold onto this man-child that doesn't even respect him enough to be honest with him.
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Post by caitlinp on Oct 30, 2012 11:20:57 GMT -5
This has been their relationship from the start. Christian has always come across as desperate, even when Syed with engaged to and married to Amira. Based on the things that happened during that time, Syed and Christian should have had a lot of issues that they needed to address, issues that would have created a lot of dramatic tension, but unfortunately the writers didn't explore that.
What the writers have shown is the Syed acts like he's settling for less than he wants by marrying and staying with the only gay guy in town, and Christian is just desperate to be in a relationship.
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Post by bigbadboy on Oct 30, 2012 11:27:09 GMT -5
This has been their relationship from the start. Christian has always come across as desperate, even when Syed with engaged to and married to Amira. Based on the things that happened during that time, Syed and Christian should have had a lot of issues that they needed to address, issues that would have created a lot of dramatic tension, but unfortunately the writers didn't explore that. What the writers have shown is the Syed acts like he's settling for less than he wants by marrying and staying with the only gay guy in town, and Christian is just desperate to be in a relationship. So true, the wedding and starting a family were all Christian's idea, Syed was just his flunky. I found Christian so disgusting. The way he pined over Syed in the beginning of the storyline, the desperation was embarrassing. |
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Post by candyflossuk on Oct 30, 2012 12:08:28 GMT -5
Interview from one of the soap magazines:
I LOLed at the BIB, even Marc Elliot doesn't understand his character's motivations anymore.
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Post by francescavl on Oct 30, 2012 12:39:50 GMT -5
All of this is awful. I would have totally preferred if they had just broken them up.
Between this and Stug the British soaps are really not doing a great service to the Civil Partnership cause!
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Post by caitlinp on Oct 30, 2012 13:01:01 GMT -5
LOL, so did I. Poor Marc, he's having a tough time describing what's going on. It's even sadder considering that filming has stopped, so if the writing was there, he would have a much better understanding of what the storyline is about.
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Post by caitlinp on Oct 30, 2012 13:10:21 GMT -5
Marc also said this:
It's nice that Syed wants Amira to be happy, but she can be happy with shared joint custody. Syed doesn't have to give up his rights, and it should be a difficult decision.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 30, 2012 13:21:22 GMT -5
Marc also said this: It's nice that Syed wants Amira to be happy, but she can be happy with shared joint custody. Syed doesn't have to give up his rights, and it should be a difficult decision. I've GOT to ask this, but DOES Syed really want to be a daddy? I see Christian's the one that ALWAYS has Yasmin. It's not a bad thing for Syed to admit that he's not ready to be an active participant in his daughter's life, but this whole "thing" about wanting Amira to be "happy", doesn't at all mean that he's got to absolve his parental rights to his child. Unless, he doesn't want custody. |
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Post by caitlinp on Oct 30, 2012 14:08:05 GMT -5
function (){_AF$.drBox.pPP()}function (){_AF$.drBox.pPP()} Marc also said this: It's nice that Syed wants Amira to be happy, but she can be happy with shared joint custody. Syed doesn't have to give up his rights, and it should be a difficult decision. I've GOT to ask this, but DOES Syed really want to be a daddy? I see Christian's the one that ALWAYS has Yasmin. It's not a bad thing for Syed to admit that he's not ready to be an active participant in his daughter's life, but this whole "thing" about wanting Amira to be "happy", doesn't at all mean that he's got to absolve his parental rights to his child. Unless, he doesn't want custody. More than once, Syed has said that he doesn't think that two gay men should raise a child together. That's a huge statement that the writers have failed to follow up on. Maybe they will bring it up again next week or the week after, and Christian will think that this is why Syed gave up his parental rights. They better not make it look like Syed just follows Amira, because he thinks that having Yasmin in his life is the only way that he can hold on to Christian. |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 30, 2012 16:13:37 GMT -5
function (){_AF$.drBox.pPP()}function (){_AF$.drBox.pPP()} I've GOT to ask this, but DOES Syed really want to be a daddy? I see Christian's the one that ALWAYS has Yasmin. It's not a bad thing for Syed to admit that he's not ready to be an active participant in his daughter's life, but this whole "thing" about wanting Amira to be "happy", doesn't at all mean that he's got to absolve his parental rights to his child. Unless, he doesn't want custody. More than once, Syed has said that he doesn't think that two gay men should raise a child together. That's a huge statement that the writers have failed to follow up on. Maybe they will bring it up again next week or the week after, and Christian will think that this is why Syed gave up his parental rights. They better not make it look like Syed just follows Amira, because he thinks that having Yasmin in his life is the only way that he can hold on to Christian. Caitlin - I think this exit story, is something that will completely DESTROY the Syed character, to be honest. None of what's being written, makes Syed understandable. I FORGOT that Syed doesn't think that two men should be able to raise a child together. Doesn't he think the same thing about marriage (as his own father, Masood)?! You don't HAVE to be a gay man, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered or asexual to have something like this make your damn skin crawl. Syed's not ready for marriage. He's not ready for parenthood. He's certainly not ready for adulthood. He's (IMO), just there to be pretty and that's a sad thing to say, but this show has had 4 years of Marc Elliott's time and they've used it unwisely. Yes, Marc Elliott's gorgeous and I get it, but he's also an actor and he could have done way more than what was given him and it's just shameful. |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Nov 4, 2012 5:08:03 GMT -5
Syed throws Christian out, because in the one moment that he feels that he's had enough of his husband's bullshit, it's seen as betrayal and lack of support of Syed?!
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Post by spherical07 on Nov 4, 2012 12:13:59 GMT -5
Syed throws Christian out, because in the one moment that he feels that he's had enough of his husband's bullshit, it's seen as betrayal and lack of support of Syed?! Yes, because everything is Christian's fault. If Syed messed up, its Christian's fault. |
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Post by dalphine on Nov 4, 2012 23:12:42 GMT -5
These two character could have been even better if they had writers that knew how to write. I don't blame Marc, for leaving when your an actor you want challenges and he wasn't getting any. Like someone stated he was just a pretty face for Christian. I also know when your in love with someone you take shit you shouldn't but come on enough is enough.
I think Christian would have gave up on Syed a long time ago. I hate it to that Christian, has gotten beat up so many times, that disturb me a lot. I don't think it's sending a good message. The message I get is that if your gay, your going to get beat up all the time.
I wish they had writers who could have written good stories for this couple. Even thou they weren't on the front burner they still could have been used in the background. I'm so disappointed in loosing another gay couple that I liked.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Nov 5, 2012 5:59:49 GMT -5
Syed throws Christian out, because in the one moment that he feels that he's had enough of his husband's bullshit, it's seen as betrayal and lack of support of Syed?! Yes, because everything is Christian's fault. If Syed messed up, its Christian's fault. Yes, I feel that IS the overall point of view (from the writers), but it's so interesting that it's all coming down to the wire in such an obvious way and to have these writers think that nobody was going to question it, because folks just want a happy ending for the pairing?! |
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Post by moonstruck-me on May 27, 2013 17:03:04 GMT -5
I'm hoping that Danny will get a better story line, than Syed and Christian did. I think it's difficult to see where he is going to fit in at the moment from the spoilers, but I guess they will have to bring in a new character if Danny is ever going to have a romantic love interest.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 6, 2013 5:18:41 GMT -5
I'm hoping that Danny will get a better story line, than Syed and Christian did. I think it's difficult to see where he is going to fit in at the moment from the spoilers, but I guess they will have to bring in a new character if Danny is ever going to have a romantic love interest. At this point, it's too early to wonder about Danny's nonexistent love interest. There has to be a reason why he's come back to that town and it cannot just be about a new business deal. There has to be some sort of back story (besides Syed) for Danny, in him coming back. |
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Post by moonstruck-me on Jun 6, 2013 10:50:37 GMT -5
I'm hoping that Danny will get a better story line, than Syed and Christian did. I think it's difficult to see where he is going to fit in at the moment from the spoilers, but I guess they will have to bring in a new character if Danny is ever going to have a romantic love interest. At this point, it's too early to wonder about Danny's nonexistent love interest. There has to be a reason why he's come back to that town and it cannot just be about a new business deal. There has to be some sort of back story (besides Syed) for Danny, in him coming back. Yeah, I know. I guess the back story will be by giving him a connection with someone at the restaurant opening perhaps. Right now, the character just seem so out of place.  But I hope it will make sense when we see him in July at some point. |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 9, 2013 12:16:10 GMT -5
Well, Peter Beale is back.
Now, wasn't there a previous storyline, in which Christian's nephew, was attracted to him and accused him of touching him inappropriately?
Was it Peter?
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 9, 2013 13:30:30 GMT -5
No, that was Steven who was attracted to Christian -- Steven was the son of one of Ian Beale's ex-wives (she made him think that Ian was the father when he wasn't). Steven wasn't actually related to either Christian or Ian; wikipedia refers to him as Ian's step-son. There is a bit of discussion of his character on the Beale Family wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beale_familyChryedalcoholic posted all of the Christian-Steven clips, at: www.youtube.com/channel/UCevcQit9fWicAXqeqDomq0wIt has been awhile since I have watched the clips -- but I think the portion of the playlist that pertains to Steven and Christian are from about clip 40 on (though I could be wrong). Peter is one of Ian's children -- He and Lucy are a set of twins and both had left the show and were brought back recasted. Oh and I think Peter, Lucy and Steven have the same Mother -- and so are half-siblings. |
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 9, 2013 15:36:38 GMT -5
Kevvoi - Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by justinate on Dec 11, 2013 9:50:37 GMT -5
I'm pretty excited for the upcoming snog between Danny and Johnny. I was starting to fear they would focus solely on Danny's female love interests. Johnny's a good choice too because the age gap is built-in conflict. Plus they're both attractive men.
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Post by jijiang1987 on Dec 12, 2013 11:38:57 GMT -5
Just one asking！Is there any nice guy who could make the subs please？？！！It's a pity that my aural comprehensio is soooooooooo weak as most Chinese people.
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Post by dryersheetz on Dec 12, 2013 13:05:34 GMT -5
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Post by mad4tv on Dec 22, 2013 3:09:47 GMT -5
After reading these spoilers I am now wondering why they're not doing a 'typical, drawn out' coming out story (though I know that the character has apparently been keeping it a secret for a while before his appearance). I know there's only so many ways you can do them, but I'm just curious as to why they're doing a relatively quick one. I mean, are they going to launch him straight into a relationship, or a love triangle or something? Why do they need him to come out so quickly? That's just something that caught my attention, that's all.
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But I hope it will make sense when we see him in July at some point. 
