Spoiler Discussion - EastEnders

[francescavl]

The latest spoilers suck. It makes me really mad that Syed, the lying, scheming douchebag, has to decide whether he wants a future with Christian, with Christian crying and begging... it should be the other way around!!

It should be Christian wanting to dump Syed's unworthy ass and Syed working hard to win Christian's and his family's forgiveness!

What a mess of a storyline. They don't do anything with these characters for 2 years, and then they give them this. As a long time fan of the couple (which I've gone way off now), I'm disgusted.

[Difficult Diva]

Well, Syed's always been a lying, scheming douchebag. It's just being focused on with a high level magnifying glass right now.

Christian HAS taken him back before, so now THIS TIME, they're legally recognized as civil partners. This makes it important and it SHOULD be the other way around, but it never is with this pairing.

[caitlinp]

The spoilers indicate that the storyline is ultimately about Syed finally being proactive, and having to save Christian and their relationship. I don't have a lot of hope for that happening, or that it will be written well, but I think that the exit story is that for once Syed will have to take responsibility for his actions.

[Difficult Diva]

I hope so. I really do, because you cannot even say that they're "destroying his character", because it's how Syed's always been.

[caitlinp]

I haven't seen any interview with John. What's up with that.

Over the past three years, John is the one who has done the bulk, if not all, of the interviews. Maybe since it was Marc's decision to leave, and the current story is supposed to be about Syed, the people at the BBC convinced him that he needed to do some interviews.

[kevvoi]

Thanks caitlinp that makes a lot of sense.

[candyflossuk]

Glad I'm not a Chryed fan.
The new spoilers make Syed seem an even worse husband than I already thought he was!

ETA: Wonder if Danny is lying and it really was just a kiss?

[caitlinp]

The spoilers indicate the Danny is telling the truth. Some posters at Digital Spy said that John Partridge confirms that it's the truth in an interview with All About Soaps. Someone who has the magazine posted that Syed and Christian breakup shortly after Christian is arrested. Ameera returns, and reveals that she is engaged, and that she wants Yasmin.

At this point there seems to be one set of spoilers that say that Danny is lying, and another that say that he is telling the truth.

So, I guess the ending is Syed convincing Christian that he wants to be with him, and they move away to be closer to Yasmin and Ameera.

[Difficult Diva]

Regardless to WHICH one is lying, Syed (off ALL the damn characters involved in this storyline), is going to wonder about TRUST and TRUTH telling in his new marriage to Christian, when it was due to his OWN lies, trickery and lack of balls in owning up to his own mistakes in the first place?!

What is this bullshit?

Eventually, one fine day, Syed will end up running out again, on Christian, Amira AND their child.

He's a spineless character.

[catswhiskermcginty]

I am glad I never have been a big fan of Chyred I never really cared for Syed in the first part of their story because even then he seemed to be completely uncaring of other people including Christian. But was hoping that with their exit story and Danny's coming into things we would see another side to Syed and things would get better but they and he has gotten worse. I hope that Syed slept with Danny and finally Christian ends things with him permanently and goes to stay with either his parents or Jane because so much of this is plot just too unbelievable and ridiculous.

I agree with you Difficult Diva about Syed he is just become such an unattractive character I really want him to end up with nothing and no one he really deserves it. Normally I would hope that they would now attempt to redeem but I know that the EE writers don't really seem to care about him or Chyred to do that. I can't wait for the end now I just want this mess over.

[Difficult Diva]

I've NEVER seen anything like this before, in all my years of watching soaps (daytime AND primetime).

Does this show really think Chyred fans are that desperate for this couple to leave together, that they wouldn't question the behavior of Syed at all?!

Here's Christian, who HAS been a victim of homophobia AND has been attacked in the past (at the hands of Syed's FORMER father in-law), tries to cover up his fight with Danny, by saying he was victimized by homophobia AGAIN?!

For what reason?!
Is he afraid that if Syed knew the truth, that he would try and run away again?!

[anthonyl]

Syed making out with Danny never made much sense to me. Sleeping with him is really just bad writing. Exactly when was this supposed to have taken place, the night Masood saw them kissing? I suppose the show will tell us, but I hate when soaps tell us about events after the fact rather than playing them out in 'real time'.

[caitlinp]

Syed having sex with Danny seems out of character, but something that I always found interesting abut Syed, and something that was never explored, was his admission to Christian that he had been in over relationships and wasn't a virgin. The fact that this wasn't the typical coming out story, where Syed suddenly realizes that he is gay, was an interesting aspect of the character's arc. I think that even in the aggressive kiss that Syed planted on Christian, the one that was only shown online, because the BBC was too afraid to air it, Syed showed that despite his professed piousness, he wasn't afraid of taking control and being physically intimate. That side of Syed came out again, when he was the one to initiate the kiss with Danny.

None of that changes the fact that Syed is being written to be more of a coward than ever, and his feelings for his husband have to be questioned, but that has always been the case. It has always seemed like Syed is settling by being with Christian. Syed and Christian act like they just don't want to be alone.

[caitlinp]

Why is it that Christian is the one that always gets beat up. In away I'm happy there leaving. Don't get me wrong I love Chyred but them making Christian the one to always get beat up makes me so mad. Gay people can fight and win them as well.

I think that both Danny and Christian will get beaten up, but Christian will be charged, because he starts the fight. To be fair, it has been shown that Christian can handle himself in a fight. I love how he tried to protect Syed, even though he was the one who Phil Mitchell wanted to pummel with a bat.

Of course Syed was shown to be cowering, instead of trying to make sure that his boyfriend didn't get injured.

[Difficult Diva]

Well, Syed and his pretty face and wispy head of hair can never be damaged.

[caitlinp]

According to a few fansites Christian and Syed's last day is November 15. Based on the spoilers, their it looks like their reconciliation will be quick and devoid of any depth. Some people are saying that more was written, but that Marc and Johnny were not happy about the tone. I can't buy that, because even if they wanted to leave on a happy note, I think that two people who love acting would know that this ending makes no sense. It is reminiscent of the Craig and John Paul ending, and whatever that was that ATWT did with Luke and Noah.


This is just a means to have the couple leave together, instead of writing a narrative that shows the couple dealing with their issues. Instead of seeing something like that, I'd rather see them go their separate ways, with Syed trying to get himself together, and becoming a responsible adult.

[Difficult Diva]

I'm telling you, John Partridge will be back filming in the Square as Christian by next Christmas.

I also don't think that Marc or John were "upset" by this exit storyline. Marc just wanted to be done and how could John be really upset, when the storyline basically sets up a return for Christian's character?!

Roxy, Tamwar, Zainab and Masood will all be there, next year to support, be upset, be understanding and a combo of all those things for Christian's return.

This exit storyline has shown that Syed's not at all ready to be a grown up son, a supportive brother, a loving husband or father to anyone who loves him.

It's like all these show writers/producers decided to hit the red reset button for these gay characters between June 2012 to current day in the UK and US.

[candyflossuk]

I'm still wondering if there's some twist is this 'Syed and Danny shagged' business. DS have referred to it as 'the truth' but apparently other spoilers say it's a lie?
It seems too obvious for EastEnders to tell us in the spoilers that Syed cheated. I'd have expected them to tell us that Danny said that he cheated but not give away whether he was actually telling the truth or not.
I'm thinking of the quote (think it might have been John Partridge who said it?) about there being lots of 'twists and turns' in Chryed's exit and wondering if the 'twist' is just the fact that Danny and Syed hooked up despite Syed telling Christian on their wedding day that it was only a kiss OR whether the actual 'twist' is leading us to believe that Syed/Danny slept together when in actual fact they didn't.
Sorry I'm not explaining myself very well. I guess what I'm trying to say is from the point of view of a long time EastEnders viewer, I'm surprised they'd give so much away and wouldn't be surprised if this thing with Danny isn't what it seems.

However, Whether Syed cheated or not, I don't blame Christian for not trusting him. Who would after everything that's happened?
And now he's lying about these texts from Danny. Christian deserves better and I saw that as someone who isn't really a Christian fan!

[spherical07]

I agree with Difficult Diva, we will see John return next year. He said Christian should exit with Syed, but I think for John its just going to be an extended break in order to prepare for Christian's return without Syed. Before Christian and Syed became a couple (and before Syed came to town), Christian got along great with the Masood family, and I think we will see a return to that while putting Christian back on the market with a date every now and then. I don't know if I can see them doing Christian in a serious relationship again for a while after this fiasco.

[Difficult Diva]

I think it would be quite awhile before Christian actually meets someone that he could fall for in the future.

I just picture Zainab having issues with him dating another man, yelling at him, that he's "cheating on Syed" and that, "Syed just needs more time" crap. Masood would support him in trying to move on and gain some happiness with someone else, because he could never do it himself.

Then, there's Tamwar. I just want him to be able to finally say, "I'm done with all of your BS", leave that family and go to college and find himself a woman.

[caitlinp]

Danny might be back, so maybe he will hook up with Christian sometime next year.

[dalphine]

I so hope John will come back, he's my favorite. I really will miss him. I did like the Chyred storyline and I'm sorry Marc... leaving, I can understand his point, actors like to act and be challenge.

[caitlinp]

So, on November 5th Syed won't be able to tell Christian that he loves him, but on November 15th they are going to have their so called sunset ending. That makes no sense. This does look like the writers are trying to leave the door open to bring Christian back.

The way the November 8 spoilers are written, concerning Syed deciding to give full custody of Yasmin to Amira, is just disgusting. They make Syed sound like he doesn't even care. The situation is just too serious to say it's just Syed being a flake.

[catswhiskermcginty]

I don't think Syed doesn't care about his daughter I think its another example of Syed's bad decision making that has featured throughout his story and seems a deeply rooted part of his character. Sounds like he thinks that that is what is best for Yasmin but of course he gets it wrong again.

No matter what the circumstance Syed seems to always make the wrong decision and then always lives to regret it and I think that is what is happening yet again. Well that what I got anyway.

What I dont' get is that we last saw Masood telling Zainab he doesn't trust her and he asks her to leave which she does and suddenly she is back returning to the family okay she has promised not to meddle but then that seems to be it all that drama after the wedding and then a big fat nothing.

Can't wait for this story line to be over what a waste . I hope EE gets some better writers, producers soon.

[Difficult Diva]

Poor decision making should be Syed's middle name and now his big shocker to Christian is that he can't say "I love you" to him?!

After everything that they both went through, in order to be together.

After everything that Christian has done, in order to stand by Syed's side.

It all comes down to Syed not being able to say, "I love you"?!

Syed has said in the past that he loves Christian, right?

This is the best exit storyline they could come up with for both of these characters?



As for Masood and Zainab, unless one or both of those actors decide to leave the show, their relationship will always have one of them, "leaving" the other and family during some moment, in which the other is upset.

That's how they're always going to be written.