Spoiler Discussion - EastEnders

[vjay]

Of course, Christian and Syed are going to be involved in a love triangle Eastenders is a soap not real life. Soaps focus are on love and relationships that's what the genre is about.

I agree that perhaps the writers could expand their minds a bit to write something different but they obviously don't seem to be invested so much in this gay couple.

I really miss Amira I feel she was the real victim in the Syed and Christian love triangle both of those gay men used and took advantage of her trust. I wish Amira would come back to Eastenders and cause more disruption for Christian and Syed. This new gay guy will probably chase Christian I imagine. I kind of want this new gay character to go after Christian because he is usually shown to be perfect. Syed is boring, I don't know why Amria left the show.

[bigbadboy]

Sept 1, 2012 14:39:24 GMT -5 vjay said:

I really miss Amira I feel she was the real victim in the Syed and Christian love triangle both of those gay men used and took advantage of her trust. I wish Amira would come back to Eastenders and cause more disruption for Christian and Syed.

YES YES YES. I thought I was the only one who felt that way. She was humiliated big time and I feel she needs to come back to ruin their relationship beyond repair. They put her through hell and I don't think Christian and Syed ever apologized for what they did to her.

[caitlinp]

I don't want Amira to ruin Syed and Christian's relationship, because that will make her look childish and pathetic. The writers missed the boat, when they failed to expand on the scenes that took place in the red button episodes. The writers should have shown that so many of Amira's decisions were due to her father controlling her life. The purpose of the so called Amira storyline from earlier this year should have been to build Amira up, and allow her to stand on her own two feet.

Syed is boring, but that's only because he's a one dimensional character, who only exists because he's Christian's boyfriend. He needs his own life, friends, purpose, etc. Maybe the writers are addressing this by having him experience financial troubles.

[vjay]

Syed and Christian did not apologize to Amira she left her daughter Yasmin with them which I think was wrong. I am not saying Amira is perfect but she fell hard for Syed she didn't know her husband was gay.

I really enjoyed it when Amria came back last year in October and her stay for six months was pretty good. In the end, I didn't like it how rude Syed was to Amria just pushing her aside for Christian.

I hope Amira comes back hard and this time she takes no prisoners and takes her daughter Yasmin away from them. Syed and Christian need to learn they can't just destroy someone's life like they did to Amira.

Hopefully Amira will return soon she is an amazing character. I loved Amria's spunky personality, her fashion sense, and her ambition.

[caitlinp]

It's sad that Marc Elliot and Jon Partridge are leaving Eastenders. In Marc's case, since he's the one who decided to leave, it's understandable, since actors like a challenge, and the character of Syed has all of the potential in the world, but the writers and producers have never done all that they could to fully explore and develop the character.

I hope that Syed and Christian get a good and juicy storyline over the next few months. They've been filming a lot, but the producers haven't been spoken a lot about what the storyline is about. That's out of the ordinary for them, so hopefully it will be exciting, and the storyline that they've been promising us for almost two years.

[candyflossuk]

Sept 6, 2012 18:56:28 GMT -5 caitlinp said:

It's sad that Marc Elliot and Jon Partridge are leaving Eastenders. In Marc's case, since he's the one who decided to leave, it's understandable, since actors like a challenge, and the character of Syed has all of the potential in the world, but the writers and producers have never done all that they could to fully explore and develop the character.

I hope that Syed and Christian get a good and juicy storyline over the next few months. They've been filming a lot, but the producers haven't been spoken a lot about what the storyline is about. That's out of the ordinary for them, so hopefully it will be exciting, and the storyline that they've been promising us for almost two years.

Completely agree.
Who can really blame Marc?
His character does absolutely nothing but hang round in the background muttering a few lines. Christian and his family are literally his life. He has no friends, has had no big stoylines of his own (i.e ones not based on Chryed or drama with his family) and would regularly disappear off screen for months on end with no explanation! At least during this time John had other projects and commitments to keep him going but Marc must have been bored as hell!
Syed had so many random storylines/threads of his character that were never followed through because the producers couldn't be bothered. Like why is he flogging stuff on a market stall when he is a qualified masseuse? What happened to his friendship with Tanya and before that, Janine? Why do we hardly see the great Tamwar/Syed relationship on screen any more? It's such a waste.

I wonder why the writers bothered to have them get engaged, since they've never actually looked like they were going to follow through with it and give them a wedding.

I wish both Marc and John the best of luck and I hope Chryed get a happy ending, not dying together in a car crash or something horribly depressing like that!

[caitlinp]

and would regularly disappear off screen for months on end with no explanation!

Marc's character would also disappear if Jon had time off to do other things, like when he got married or got a part in a pantomime. Jon may do another pantomime this year, and that's why the characters will be gone by November.



Syed having a juicy part in a Syed and Christian storyline is fine, but that's usually not what happened. Everything pretty much revolved around Christian, and the writers didn't show things from Syed's point of view. At times, it seemed like the producers didn't want to write for the couple. Given what he did with Kieron and John Paul on Hollyoaks, I'm really not surprised that Brian Kirkwood put these two characters on the back burner, even though they were incredibly popular.

It's actually sad for Jon, because the article makes it sound like the decision was made to write Christian out, because Syed is leaving. Jon has gotten a lot of opportunities because of this role, but maybe he'll come back later.

[candyflossuk]

Sept 6, 2012 19:41:15 GMT -5 caitlinp said:

and would regularly disappear off screen for months on end with no explanation!

Marc's character would also disappear if Jon had time off to do other things, like when he got married or got a part in a pantomime. Jon may do another pantomime this year, and that's why the characters will be gone by November.



Syed having a juicy part in a Syed and Christian storyline is fine, but that's usually not what happened. Everything pretty much revolved around Christian, and the writers didn't show things from Syed's point of view. At times, it seemed like the producers didn't want to write for the couple. Given what he did with Kieron and John Paul on Hollyoaks, I'm really not surprised that Brian Kirkwood put these two characters on the back burner, even though they were incredibly popular.

It's actually sad for Jon, because the article makes it sound like the decision was made to write Christian out, because Syed is leaving. Jon has gotten a lot of opportunities because of this role, but maybe he'll come back later.

See here I was nodding my head agreeing with all this and then you mentioned Kieron and John Paul...
God how I hated the 'JPK' pairing, and the idea that JP would have a secret affair with a priest, so soon after dumping Craig for keeping him a secret? Yeah OK then HO.
James wanted storylines that didn't revolve around JP's sexuality and instead he gets JPK.
Syed suffers a similar fate in the fact that the writers fail to realise he exists in his own right outside of the 'Chryed' orbit and oh look, when he does finally get a storyline, it looks to be another love triangle storyline where Chryed's relationship will be tested.

It is a shame but hopefully them leaving together will mean a happy ending which not many gay couples get these days.
I'm hoping John wouldn't chose to leave at the same time as Marc if they told him they were going to kill them both....
Anyway, any couple who stays in the show for too long will run the risk of turning into Kat and Alfie and no one wants that for Chryed! EastEnders excel in destroying it's most popular couples...

[Difficult Diva]

I wish Marc (and Jon) the best of luck in their careers after leaving the show.
I wonder if the show will invest more in the character Gary Lucy will be portraying during the lead up to Chyred's departure?

[caitlinp]

Kirkwood did some of the same things with Syed and Christian that he did with John Paul and Kieron. We had the huge black holes, no follow through on potential storylines and twists and turns, and he can be blamed for Syed being so one dimensional, and not having a purpose outside of being Christian's boyfriend.

It didn't seem like Kirkwood was invested in those two characters.

[francescavl]

This sucks! But in the end, it will be like nothing really chanced, since they are never on anyway. This couple and these characters have had a shitty treatment, enough to turn off their fans and the actors themselves.

I really hope that they are sending Syed and Christian away to start a new life together somewhere else... if they break them up or kill one of them off (having the other leave in order to put distance between himself and the past) I'll make an epic scene! They deserve to have an happy ending, after all the crap they went through!!

[dalphine]

I just heard they're writing them out in November. This does really sucks how can they do this wasn't Chyred a popular couple. I really hate this and don't see really why I should still be invested in there storyline.

[nryabenko]

EastEnders spoilers says that Marc has decided to quit the show. That's why they are righting out both Marc and Johnny. It should be in November.

[dalphine]

Yell I read that Marc wanted to leave. I can understand that because there not being written for and haven't been on for so long. John decided to leave as well so Chyred could have there happy ending. I'm sad but I understand Marc decision. I hate that John is leaving I wish he would have stayed but he probably has other things he like to do as well.

[francescavl]

Digital Spy says they will leave in a "dramatic fashion". I am worrying, here!

[dalphine]

I hope they leave it so if ever they wanted to they could bring them back.

[caitlinp]

Maybe it will be a dramatic wedding. I read that the producers have been mulling it over for a few years, but that the BBC are afraid that showing the couple getting married would look like propaganda, or like they are supporting the effort to make it legal for same sex couples to get married in the UK.

I don't know why they are afraid, since all they have to do is let the couple have a civil union ceremony. It's not like that's illegal, or that anyone would care. Besides, support for marriage is also very popular. They would have to address Syed's feelings on the subject.

[mms575]

I will miss Syed and Christian But i understand Marc Elliot wanting to do something new!

[caitlinp]

Syed and Christian aren't involved in the big car crash that is happening in November, so with Amira's return maybe they are leaving because Amira wants to take Jasmine out of the country, so Christian and Syed follow them.

[spherical07]

Sad to see them go, but at the same time I'm glad because the characters were really not being given much material. They kept recycling the same old stories over and over again. In fact, the only time I think we had some original material for them was in the very begining when they touched on not only the Masood family rejection, with exception to Tamwar, but also the rejection of homosexuality within the Islamic faith (which was a nice change since its usually the Christian church). I wish the actors the best though, and look forward to hear of their upcoming projects after leaving EE.

[vjay]

I think the Christian and Syed storyline has gone as far as it can go. I can see why the actors were let go. Although I will say it will be sad to see Marc Elliott and John Partridge are leaving the show.

[Difficult Diva]

Christian, of all people isn't slightly suspicious of this new guy hanging around Syed?

[caitlinp]

The pictures of Syed and the new guy look good, those two would make a very handsome couple.

I don't have high hopes for this storyline. It's going to begin and end in less than three months. I don't see anything juicy or dramatic happening in that short of a span of time.

[HQ75]

Once a cheater, always a cheater.
And can I just say, Christian has done nothing BUT apologize to everybody and their auntie. He apologized to Amira a million times. Amira's father nearly beat Christian to death.
I think Christian has paid his dues when it comes to Syed. Christian has NOTHING to be sorry for.

Syed played BOTH Christian and Amira. If Christian hadn't revealed the truth to Amira, she would never had known, Christian would have been gone and Amira would have stayed married to a cheating, lying, philandering thief.

Christian wasn't the first man Syed slept with while he was with Amira.

There were men before him. Christian just happen to be the man Syed fell in love with.

But as for "humiliation" Amira brought that on herself. She was supposed to be this modern girl, born and raised in London, hanging out in bars with gay friends, she wasn't some sheltered girl who just arrived from Pakistan.

The way she reacted to finding out that Syed had been cheating on her with Christian is what humiliated her.

Up until that point I thought she was a strong girl, independent minded and self confident. But she acted like some hysterical 1950s stereotype and I lost all sympathy for her.

The entire world didn't need to know what happened. She could have simply called her father while she was still at home, packed her shit and gotten the hell out of there and had Chelsea explain everything.

Instead she made a huge spectacle of herself. She's such a freaking princess. I don't like women who don't believe they should work.

For all her faults, Zainab is one of the hardest working women in Albert Square and I love that she expected Amira to work as well.

I know soaps like hysterical women but most women are not like that.

After having a father who went to jail for embezzlement and then you deciding to STEAL his money for your own wedding, there is not room to act like you are so worried about the "shame" of marrying a gay man.

Amira was controlled by her father because she didn't want to have to work, she didn't want to have to take care of herself and as long as she did what he wanted, her father did EVERYTHING for her, paid all her bills and bought everything she wanted.

If Amira didn't expect men to take care of her, she might have had a better shot at being happy. She invested her entire identity in Syed. And it's not because she's Muslim, it's because she's a freaking princess.

All she had to do was walk away. She's a grown woman. Her father can't make her do anything she doesn't want. As she later proved when she decided to go back to Albert Square.

Amira was cheated on. It happens. Gay or no gay, that's life.

The world doesn't end and you can't spend the rest of your life falling apart and blaming everybody for it.

Amira should take some lessons from Jane.

Christian and Syed can't spend the rest of their lives apologizing to her either. Everyone has suffered enough.

And it looks like Christian will ONCE AGAIN have to suffer at the hands of Syed's selfishness.

Christian had half a drunken kiss at NYE and he was a mess of guilt over it and Syed almost broke up with him because of it.

And now Masood (once again) has witnessed Syed cheating on someone he is supposed to love and be committed to.

Syed is a hot mess and should have a "Danger, Do Not Enter" sign on his forehead.

Sigh...

Christian would be better off without Syed and so would Amira.

Syed is Satan in a Sunday hat.

[rtgtx]

Sept 1, 2012 14:52:30 GMT -5 bigbadboy said:

Sept 1, 2012 14:39:24 GMT -5 vjay said:

I really miss Amira I feel she was the real victim in the Syed and Christian love triangle both of those gay men used and took advantage of her trust. I wish Amira would come back to Eastenders and cause more disruption for Christian and Syed.

YES YES YES. I thought I was the only one who felt that way. She was humiliated big time and I feel she needs to come back to ruin their relationship beyond repair. They put her through hell and I don't think Christian and Syed ever apologized for what they did to her.

Except the coming back ruining the guys relationship part, I agreed with everything else you two said.

Not only Amira, girlfriends/wives in these storylines are always used and humiliated and very few gay characters ever apologized. It's always been a shame.