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Post by justinate on Aug 16, 2019 12:32:38 GMT -5
It's good that the casting announcements seem to indicate that Victor will, indeed, be the lead of the show since half the cast is populated by his parents and siblings. His Instagram has a number of pics with his girlfriend, which I'm sure won't go down well with those who insist gay characters must be played by gay actors.
Bets start now which of the three other young male leads will be Victor's love interest. George Sear is drop-dead gorgeous, but he's playing Victor's friend so I'm guessing Victor will obsess over the basketball jock instead and wind up with the new neighbour at the end.
Since production is only beginning this month, it seems unlikely the series will make it to air this year after all?
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Post by kellerbrady on Aug 16, 2019 20:19:22 GMT -5
This is looking way better than I thought.
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Post by kellerbrady on Aug 16, 2019 20:24:38 GMT -5
Bets start now which of the three other young male leads will be Victor's love interest. George Sear is drop-dead gorgeous, but he's playing Victor's friend Where did you see this?
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Post by mizuryuu on Aug 17, 2019 0:22:23 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Aug 17, 2019 4:01:47 GMT -5
Yeah I have to admit I was a little surprised by the casting of Victor's schoolmates. I thought Disney would be more attuned to the vocal activism by certain quarters. Between this and Michael's casting, I think this show is inviting a 'cancel' campaign by them. Fans genuinely interested in gay representation onscreen are going to have to muster all their energies to keep it on the air. If not, the cancellation of a gay male-led series will serve as another nail in the coffin for gay male screen representation.
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Post by kevvoi on Aug 17, 2019 8:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Aug 17, 2019 13:38:59 GMT -5
Anyone know how old Michael Cimino is? Curiously, the NewNowNext article mentions his girlfriend's age but not his own.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 17, 2019 15:06:34 GMT -5
It's good that the casting announcements seem to indicate that Victor will, indeed, be the lead of the show since half the cast is populated by his parents and siblings. His Instagram has a number of pics with his girlfriend, which I'm sure won't go down well with those who insist gay characters must be played by gay actors. Bets start now which of the three other young male leads will be Victor's love interest. George Sear is drop-dead gorgeous, but he's playing Victor's friend so I'm guessing Victor will obsess over the basketball jock instead and wind up with the new neighbour at the end. Since production is only beginning this month, it seems unlikely the series will make it to air this year after all? I find incredibly absurd that suddenly to play a gay character the actor has to be gay. Acting is pretending to be someone you are not, as simple as that. The fact that HW has trouble to cast gay actors in main roles, specially gay roles is something that should be addressed but that has nothing to do with being mandatory that the actor has to share with the character his sexual orientation. Of course, sometimes the straight actor is totally unsuitable for the role, specially when in interviews he is worried about people know how straight he is but fortunately most straight actors don't have such problem In this case it's not that surprising, Berlanti hired three non straight actors for roles in Love, Simon, but the main role was for a straight on
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Post by justinate on Aug 18, 2019 11:22:20 GMT -5
I find incredibly absurd that suddenly to play a gay character the actor has to be gay. Acting is pretending to be someone you are not, as simple as that. The fact that HW has trouble to cast gay actors in main roles, specially gay roles is something that should be addressed but that has nothing to do with being mandatory that the actor has to share with the character his sexual orientation. Of course, sometimes the straight actor is totally unsuitable for the role, specially when in interviews he is worried about people know how straight he is but fortunately most straight actors don't have such problem In this case it's not that surprising, Berlanti hired three non straight actors for roles in Love, Simon, but the main role was for a straight on Unfortunately these are the times we live in. The backlash has already started: www.out.com/television/2019/8/15/disneys-love-simon-spin-has-confirmed-its-lead-actorsI've always believed the best person for a role should get it - someone who can make the character believable and is committed 100% to the project. Some of the best gay characters have been played by straight actors, and I doubt it's for lack of auditions by gay actors. Often the ones who fail to inhabit the character are those uncomfortable portraying intimacy with another man. But that's not always remedied by casting a gay actor: sometimes gay actors are very self-conscious in those scenes and become more reserved than their straight counterparts. The natural conclusion of this stupid campaign is that gay actors will be frozen out of straight roles (which are far more numerous than gay roles). As an aside, I didn't realize Mason Gooding is the son of Cuba Gooding, Jr.
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Post by dmagiclight on Aug 18, 2019 14:39:25 GMT -5
I dont mind the actor not being gay as long as the show and Actors dont shy away from what it is like for A Gay Male In high School
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Post by shaunjohn401 on Aug 18, 2019 23:13:23 GMT -5
I am fine with the actors being straight if they do a good job. But theirs been times when the producers didn't what to cast a gay actor because of marketability. Not saying it happen in this case but it has in the past. Billy Porter has been talking about this lately. I remember John Barrowman from Torchwood says that he was up for the part of Will of Will and Grace but the producers or the network didn't want to turn off middle America.
I liked Annabelle Comes Home and Booksmart so i will watch the first episodes to see if if good.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 20, 2019 13:16:20 GMT -5
Hollywood only need to cast a gay actor playing a main gay character from time to time to avoid the backlash, but they rarely do. In fact when there's a couple on a show, generally is the straight actor the one who gets the main role.
The problem is a lot of times the ones who stop gay actors getting the role are gay producers and gay directors, and that's shameful.
On films there's a long way to come, but on tv where diversity is high it's a shame that a show with a main gay character has to cast a straight actor all the time.
At least 13 RW did a good job, one of the gay characters is played by a straight actor, but there are a gay actors playing a straight role.
I think people just want representation but i find disturbing the lynching mode and wanting the actor and the character being more or less the same, when acting is exactly the opposite
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 20, 2019 13:20:55 GMT -5
I dont mind the actor not being gay as long as the show and Actors dont shy away from what it is like for A Gay Male In high School The truth is a gay male in high school can be a lot of different things, in fact two gay males in high school can be total opposites. And that's one of the problems with high school shows, sometimes the characters are totally naive, sometimes they are like in Euphoria. Because yes, there are people drinking, taking drugs and having sex in high school, but there are people who doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs and don't have sex (and of course different combinations). I have zero problems with a gay character who has no boyfriend or sex as long as he is an interesting character, the problem is that it's always the gay character the one who is sexless. This is based on a YA novel, the truth is the end of the novel has more displays of affection on a room than the film that has a very edulcorate ferris wheel ending. So i don't expect nothing groundbreaking, and probably won't be as centered around the main character
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Post by mizuryuu on Aug 21, 2019 2:12:17 GMT -5
At least 13 RW did a good job, one of the gay characters is played by a straight actor, but there are a gay actors playing a straight role. The question would be if the casting director even knew that Brandon Flynn is gay before casting him as Justin. Assuming it isn't wide spread, chances are the casting director hired Brandon assuming he was straight. I have zero problems with a gay character who has no boyfriend or sex as long as he is an interesting character, the problem is that it's always the gay character the one who is sexless. This is based on a YA novel, the truth is the end of the novel has more displays of affection on a room than the film that has a very edulcorate ferris wheel ending. So i don't expect nothing groundbreaking, and probably won't be as centered around the main character Since the original YA novel is based completely around finding love, I really hope they don't make the main character sexless. I do worry that the entire show will be about his search for love and he would only find a boyfriend on the last episode as they fade to black. However, as a Disney show, even with a love life, I can easily see the show depict straight sex but only show fade out to black and pecks on the cheeks for the gay relationship.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 23, 2019 8:00:00 GMT -5
To be fair, Brandon is not the only gay actor on 13RW, Miles is not out (which will be more complicated now that his boyfriend is out), but Tommy was out and married with a guy
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Post by kellerbrady on Nov 23, 2019 17:06:00 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Nov 24, 2019 9:28:19 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing, but I'm inclined to think it isn't legit. For one thing, it reads a lot like fanfic, and the level of detail in the scene descriptions (outside of dialogue) doesn't ring true for a TV script. For another, I can't see Disney green-lighting a pilot for a family audience where the word "dick" is thrown around willy-nilly (pun intended), there are jokes about Jesus and #metoo, and Shawn Mendes's CK campaign actually features as a plot point. Not unless they intend to rate it 18+ and rule out a lot of their target audience, which I'm assuming is middle- and high-schoolers. (And yes, I'm aware that teens are using that kind of language - and a lot worse - and seen their fair share of underwear ads, and I'm all for a more realistic portrayal of the gay teen experience, but I can't see Disney wanting to be seen as sanctioning that. They'd be wary of riling up conservatives who already have a problem with their commissioning of a teen series starring a gay lead.)
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Post by justinate on Dec 15, 2019 19:26:16 GMT -5
Several actors have shared on Instagram that filming for season 1 has wrapped. Hopefully the debut is not far off now. Anyone know how long the lead time between filming and broadcast is for Disney+?
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 15, 2019 19:45:44 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Dec 15, 2019 19:52:10 GMT -5
Thanks Kevvoi - that's ages away though! I hope they will bring it to air sooner.
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 15, 2019 20:23:32 GMT -5
Disney+ appears to have a whole slate of shows coming up - but I guess they aren't quite ready to be the next netflix, putting up dozens of new shows at a time.
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Post by justinate on Dec 16, 2019 7:10:43 GMT -5
Disney+ is already following a different release schedule to Netflix; instead of dropping an entire season at once, they are following the conventional broadcast TV model of airing one episode per week.
I just find it odd that they have the entire first season in the can but are going to sit on it for another 9 months (assuming the premiere is in early fall, not later). With a weekly release model, this will mean the first season will stretch into mid-November and subscribers who bought a one-year subscription upfront under the influence of the announced programming, will have to renew for another year just to watch the conclusion of season 1. It feels kind of manipulative.
I had hoped for a March premiere (like the movie) or early summer at the latest. Since it's not all dropping at once, they don't have to go through post-production for every episode before premiering the season.
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Post by jblaze018 on Dec 16, 2019 20:59:17 GMT -5
Disney+ is already following a different release schedule to Netflix; instead of dropping an entire season at once, they are following the conventional broadcast TV model of airing one episode per week. I just find it odd that they have the entire first season in the can but are going to sit on it for another 9 months (assuming the premiere is in early fall, not later). With a weekly release model, this will mean the first season will stretch into mid-November and subscribers who bought a one-year subscription upfront under the influence of the announced programming, will have to renew for another year just to watch the conclusion of season 1. It feels kind of manipulative. I had hoped for a March premiere (like the movie) or early summer at the latest. Since it's not all dropping at once, they don't have to go through post-production for every episode before premiering the season. I agree. I wonder how many of the subscribers will fall off just because of that.
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Post by mizuryuu on Dec 18, 2019 2:13:01 GMT -5
I am against it for another reason. For any show featuring a young cast, large gap in time in filming is never good since the cast would change a lot in that period. If they don't air til the fall, the show probably won't get renewed til at least a few episode in around the start of winter. By the time that writing and filming start, it will be almost a year and a half since they wrapped on season 1. That is more than enough time for a young cast member to look dramatically different purely based on aging. A kid could suddenly look a few years older, a teenager can go from scrawny to built, etc...
So unless they do large time skips between the seasons, how believable would the actors look?
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Post by kellerbrady on Dec 18, 2019 16:53:27 GMT -5
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