VL 16-20/07/12 ep chat ( + caps/vids)

[Tagro]

This thread is for all discussion of this week's episodes of VL (no spoilery/preview talk, please!).


VIDEO 16-19/07/12 WITH CAPTIONS

VIDEO 20/07/12 WITH CAPTIONS


EPISODE 4109 (Monday, 16 July 2012)

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+ CAPS BY 88chrolli

+ VIDEO BY 88chrolli

PLAYLIST

Pauline - Cargo City
Goodnight And Go - Imogen Heap
Animal (Mark Ronson Remix) - Miike Snow
Give It All Back - Noah And The Whale


EPISODE 4110 (Tuesday, 17 July 2012)

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PLAYLIST

Hallelujah - Jeff Buckley
Thirteen Thirtyfive - Dillon


EPISODE 4111 (Wednesday, 18 July 2012)

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PLAYLIST

Soft Rock Star (Jimmy Vs. Jow Mix) - Metric
(You Can't Blame It On) Anybody - Phoenix
If You Would Come Back Home - William Fitzsimmons
Could Be I Don't Belong Anywhere - Lucky Soul
Collage - Paul Kalkbrenner
Hurting Me Now - Sia
Untitled - MOOMIN
The Model - Zoot Woman
Is He Really Coming Home? - The School


EPISODE 4112 (Thursday, 19 July 2012)

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PLAYLIST

Love - Air
Sexy M.F. - Prince
Soft Rock Star - Metric
Facing The Sun - Fritz Kalkbrenner
Alphabetical - Phoenix
Your Heart Is An Empty Room - Death Cab For Cutie
Peligro - Gotan Project
Animal (Mark Ronson Remix) - Miike Snow
Dub In Ya Mind (Beach Club Mix) - Afterlife
Give Me All Your Luvin' - Madonna Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.
Night Of Your Life - David Guetta Feat. Jennifer Hudson


EPISODE 4113 (Friday, 20 July 2012)

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PLAYLIST

Lady - Richard Grey
Encore (Album Version) - Wallis Bird
Aganju (Radio Edit) - Bebel Gilberto
Homebase - Dzihan & Kamien
You Don't Own The Road - The Kills
Wonderful World - Jimmy Witherspoon/Richard Holmes/Odetta
Where Are You Now - SOPHIA

[88chrolli]

Caps of July, 16th

[88chrolli]

Episode of today with subs and don't forget this is just an help, and choose your language with the CC button. And as always i concentrate subs on Olli

[sonia38]

Thanks for posting the caps.

It seems Olli only exist to listen to eveyone's problems. Who listens to him when he has a problem?

Is that Emilio's sad face becasue he looks more constipated to me, that must be his acting choice.

[88chrolli]

Caps of July 19th






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[88chrolli]

[sonia38]

88chrolli, thanks so much for posting.

I could have done without that Jessica/Christian show and tell scene, really, what was that all about and Christian seems a bit into it at first acting shy and all. I swear, Jessica should not be living there but I digress and if I was Olli and came in and saw that scene after all that went down I would have gone ballistic no matter how innocent it was.

Poor Poor Arno.

[Trish]

At least Christian let her know that he wasn't interested. I would have liked Olli having a bit more reaction to the situation and I would have liked for Christian to get up and run to him as if he was glad that he was there to save him from the torture that she was putting them through. I am glad tthat they decided to leave, but the idea that she came down and still wanted their opinion is absurd, but their whole reationship is absurd. As she contiues to flaunt her body before them it just gets more and more stupid. I just wish they would move out, but they just don't seem that important. Acutally since they don't seem important enough for a story, you would think they would have them move out. They could still have them giving advice. They could just not do it at the flatshare. It's not like it seems that they own it anymore anyway.

[teachgirl]

So now we have had three references to the roots of their marital problems -- Christian's mention of bisexuality to Marlene, his discussion about the adoption issue with Dana, and now this ridiculous reference to the threesome. The writers take none of it seriously, it's all either a big joke or just support for someone else. It really just gets worse and worse.

I did notice that they seem to have cut the scene from the spoiler photo where Olli seemed to be either pointing at or touching Jessica in that lingerie while Christian watched. Thank goodness for small favors.

[Trish]

I guess we can be greatful that Christian has not forgotten it and from his reactions, plans to not repeat his mistakes. I think he is hoping that others will learn from what his actions cost him, but I have a feeling that they will all fall into the same trap. Marlene will claim herself to be bisexual and will shack up with Rebecca and Tristan. Dana/Hagen won't be able to get past their baby drama and Jessica will again sleep with an someone in spite of what happened the last time.

[catswhiskermcginty]

The scene was awkward but that was called for and I enjoyed Christian's face acting it was very funny. I also I liked the fact that Christian doesn't think much of Jessica's morals as he immediately thought she was trying to come on to him even she is dating Daniel so that was quite fitting for me, she hasn't really done much to improve her image. I also notice that even a year later Christian is still not comfortable around Jessica and that works for me it would be even more odd if he became her best friend like Olli I mean that is odd enough at times.

Christian only got on board once he made it clear he wasn't interested that he got into Jessica's little fashion show which wasn't meant for him but for Dana. Overall not a bad scene was it necessary no but it was funny and the writers do seem to be saying something about Chrolli resolving there issues it just might not be in a way that we would like. But its a soap and its VL so I'll just go along with it as so far it hasn't put me off Chrolli.

[Deleted]

the scene as it was played was absolutely ridiculous and not necessarily for what Jessica needed to hear - that's a gift for Daniel is not the best and the relationships are about something more than just about sex
the beginning of the scene was not so bad - Christian doesn't want to make the same mistake and and ...but then it turned into kind of embarrassing show and sorry to say that , in this scene was more for Thore and Jana than for Christian and Jessica, for some people maybe funny, for others rather pointless and rather an embarrassing scene (as it was written,directed, played) ... as for Olli ,on the one hand Ollis line about Daniel waering such underwear was quite funny, and it seems that the trust between Chris and Olli is after all what happened last year as it should be again, but if his almost NO reaction is logical and natural ? - I'm not so sure ...I wish the authors could stop to show Chrolli in such pointless and mostly embarrassing support.
some people are used to criticize others that can not distinguish between the RL and the soap-world between the characters and actors, but don't you think that the authors themselves have a little problem with the distinguishing sometimes too ?
I have to ask how much respect they have towards their actors , their characters, their couples when they write ( just for the support , just to push other SLs, just to have a "funny" scene ) this kind of scenes for Jessica and Christian(or Chrolli) after all what happened last year
an unpopular opinion , but it's quite clear why Jessica shows her underwear to Christian ,of all people . and why not to Andi, or Olli, or Hagen, or Dana - those people who could tell her exactly the same thing - that it's not just the right gift for Daniel

if this scene was for Jessica/Daniel SL really necessary , then imo it was possible to write , to direct, play out in a bit different way and was not needed to show Jessica Christian (and Olli) in this way

[lolaruns]

WTF is in her hair.

[dalphine]

I have a problem with Jessica thinking SEX will solve everything. My take on that scene they should have had Chrolli in the scene together from the beginning, instead of just having Christian my hisself at first.

[catswhiskermcginty]

Jul 20, 2012 2:25:31 GMT -5 @lola77 said:

an unpopular opinion , but it's quite clear why Jessica shows her underwear to Christian ,of all people . and why not to Andi, or Olli, or Hagen, or Dana - those people who could tell her exactly the same thing - that it's not just the right gift for Daniel

if this scene was for Jessica/Daniel SL really necessary , then imo it was possible to write , to direct, play out in a bit different way and was not needed to show Jessica Christian (and Olli) in this way

I have never agreed with the Thore/Jana comments and didn't notice it either in this nor do I think the authors cannot tell the difference but Jessica and Christian live in the same flat they are going to have some interaction and Jessica has well lets say few inhibitions so things like this could/can easily happen. Yes Christian could have left but wouldn't that have shown they he doesn't trust himself around her which would be more of a worry.

Also when Jessica first came out she actually did expect Dana to be there Christian tells her she's not there so she picks Christian, its similar to the scene when Olli was in the Carribbean and she asked Christian what shoe to wear when he asked more or less why him she said it was because Olli wasn't around.

[Deleted]

I know, that there are different opinions on this topic
as I read different comments also in the different discuss boards , well, some people see in some scenes a little hints on the RL , or that this show not completely distinguishes between the actors and characters and some people don't see anything like that ...a matter of opinion , of course
I don't say the authors ( bc it's only problem of the authors or maybe of the director too) have this little problem in all Jessica/Christian scenes , but (just IMO and well, some other people think the same) there are/were some scenes , where we can see more Jana and Thore in the scene than actually Jessica,Christian
but as I said just a matter of opinion and I never expected that everyone will have the same pov on this matter.
I have no problem with Jessica/Christian scenes in generally - it's the same as Olli/Jessica scenes , or Andi/Jessica scenes - they all live in the same flatshare after all , but for me it's imporatant the way some scenes are written , directed and played out ...and well, not everything and everytime is well done , or is pleasant to watch or is good/or friendly for the perception of Chrolli as a well-functioning gay couple/ relationship

[Luca]

IMO Jessica is obviously an insecure person when it comes to love (something absolutely new to her) and of course she would need a second opinion on her 'present' for Daniel. And even if her first intention was to ask for Dana's opinion it makes more sense she asked for a man's opinion in this matter and I am glad it was Christian for some reasons. Firstly, because it showed that there is no trace of sexual tension b/w Christian and Jessica; secondly, because it showed that Olli has overcome the boring 'he's into woman' cliché; and last but not least because Thore's acting is absolutely delightful, one of the funniest sequences I've seen in VL.

[catswhiskermcginty]

Jul 20, 2012 4:15:32 GMT -5 @lola77 said:

I know, that there are different opinions on this topic
as I read different comments also in the different discuss boards , well, some people see in some scenes a little hints on the RL , or that this show not completely distinguishes between the actors and characters and some people don't see anything like that ...a matter of opinion , of course
I don't say the authors ( bc it's only problem of the authors or maybe of the director too) have this little problem in all Jessica/Christian scenes , but (just IMO and well, some other people think the same) there are/were some scenes , where we can see more Jana and Thore in the scene than actually Jessica,Christian
but as I said just a matter of opinion and I never expected that everyone will have the same pov on this matter.
I have no problem with Jessica/Christian scenes in generally - it's the same as Olli/Jessica scenes , or Andi/Jessica scenes - they all live in the same flatshare after all , but for me it's imporatant the way some scenes are written , directed and played out ...and well, not everything and everytime is well done , or is pleasant to watch or is good/or friendly for the perception of Chrolli as a well-functioning gay couple/ relationship

I intended to edit my comments but RL got in the way but I do agree we all have a point of view and it would be a boring well if everyone's was completely the same. I don't mind Jessica I quite like her and the her affect on the flatshare I that she provides some friction its just that her coming to the flat wasn't due to the events of last year.

But I am being optimistic about Chrolli and VL because in the past I have been so pessimtic but I have found the last few episodes featuring with Chrolli dull and even Jessica/Daniel/Vivienne story a little boring I get Vivienne and her behaviour and the story line but its just not that interesting. I am hoping it picks up soon.

[Trish]

I agree that the scene was similar to the shoe scene. I also agree that Chrolli is being put in a role to give us answers about where they are now through others experiencing what they did last year. I would much rather have seen them talking through these things, but at least our questions are being answered.

As far as the Jana/Thore ve Jessica/Christian on screne, Jessica is sexual with everyone and of course if she is being that way with Chrisitan, you have to think a bit about the RL couple, but Jana is nothing like Jessica and those silly poses were all Jessica and the Thore that was there was just amused. We only saw2 outfits, what's to say she wasn't wearing something stupid. Thore and Jana are not the only people there and if Thore isn't reacting the way the director wants, he will tell him, so I think that the reaction that Christian was giving was the reaction he was suppose to give.

[blaykee]

I disagree that it was more Thore and Jana than Christian and Jessica. None of us know the real people or how they act.

I have no problems, whatsoever separating fact from fiction and never even think about the two dating when watching them together.

I agree with Luca, this scene gave us two positives in the chrolli s/l whether people liked the scene or not. Christian bringing up the fact that it's not going to happen again (with disgust on his face) and Olli showing us he's not worried. It says a lot about their relationship and trust and how far they've come.

[teachgirl]

Jul 20, 2012 11:02:44 GMT -5 blaykee said:

It's ludicrous to say it was more Thore and Jana than Christian and Jessica. None of us know the real people or how they act.

I have no problems, whatsoever separating fact from fiction and never even think about the two dating when watching them together.

I agree with Luca, this scene gave us two positives in the chrolli s/l whether people liked the scene or not. Christian bringing up the fact that it's not going to happen again (with disgust on his face) and Olli showing us he's not worried. It says a lot about their relationship and trust and how far they've come.

Could we try to keep it civil? Someone else's opinion is not "ludicrous." It is their opinion and needs to be respected as such.

Don't mean to sound like a schoolmarm, sorry. I've just had to mediate lately between students accusing each other of having ridiculous opinions rather than just saying they disagreed, and it got ugly. So I'm a little sensitive on the issue.

[88chrolli]

Caps of July 20th

[blaykee]

Jul 20, 2012 11:46:12 GMT -5 teachgirl said:

Jul 20, 2012 11:02:44 GMT -5 blaykee said:

Could we try to keep it civil? Someone else's opinion is not "ludicrous." It is their opinion and needs to be respected as such.

Don't mean to sound like a schoolmarm, sorry. I've just had to mediate lately between students accusing each other of having ridiculous opinions rather than just saying they disagreed, and it got ugly. So I'm a little sensitive on the issue.

sorry I didn't mean to be offensive to anyone in particular, and if I was I apologize. I just meant for ME it's ridiculous to compare. I see so often (not usually here) people who can't separate fictional characters from real people. And people who think they know a celebrity when they don't. But I will edit.

[andc39]

Jul 20, 2012 2:25:31 GMT -5 @lola77 said:

the scene as it was played was absolutely ridiculous and not necessarily for what Jessica needed to hear - that's a gift for Daniel is not the best and the relationships are about something more than just about sex
the beginning of the scene was not so bad - Christian doesn't want to make the same mistake and and ...but then it turned into kind of embarrassing show and sorry to say that , in this scene was more for Thore and Jana than for Christian and Jessica, for some people maybe funny, for others rather pointless and rather an embarrassing scene (as it was written,directed, played) ... as for Olli ,on the one hand Ollis line about Daniel waering such underwear was quite funny, and it seems that the trust between Chris and Olli is after all what happened last year as it should be again, but if his almost NO reaction is logical and natural ? - I'm not so sure ...I wish the authors could stop to show Chrolli in such pointless and mostly embarrassing support.
some people are used to criticize others that can not distinguish between the RL and the soap-world between the characters and actors, but don't you think that the authors themselves have a little problem with the distinguishing sometimes too ?
I have to ask how much respect they have towards their actors , their characters, their couples when they write ( just for the support , just to push other SLs, just to have a "funny" scene ) this kind of scenes for Jessica and Christian(or Chrolli) after all what happened last year
an unpopular opinion , but it's quite clear why Jessica shows her underwear to Christian ,of all people . and why not to Andi, or Olli, or Hagen, or Dana - those people who could tell her exactly the same thing - that it's not just the right gift for Daniel

if this scene was for Jessica/Daniel SL really necessary , then imo it was possible to write , to direct, play out in a bit different way and was not needed to show Jessica Christian (and Olli) in this way

I'm glad, that I am not the only one who veiws these scenes in the exact same way..

[88chrolli]