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Post by Trish on Dec 1, 2011 14:43:18 GMT -5
Angry Christian boxing and kiking the hell out of that guy was really sexy! I don't want to be a killjoy, and I really did enjoy this episode very much, but I was a little uncomfortable about this, and here's why: In the original story, Christian and Olli won a moral victory because, under Olivia's prodding, Christian put down the baseball bat and gave an impassioned speech instead; Axel got arrested, not violently beaten. I completely understand why Christian was feeling the way he did, the months of frustration that led to that moment, the anger, and complete hopelessness and love. Part of me was cheering him on, but the part of me that so loves that first boxing storyline was, as I said, made a bit uncomfortable that what was a meaningful moment is now being used as a dramatic plot device. Soapy and par for the course for this storyline, I know, but it did give me pause. I see where you are coming from and Axel is getting what is coming to him. Still for Chris he has lost everything, but yet people like this are still out there spouting off. Seeming to go on with no remorse. Yes he gave the guy a beat down, but in the right way, in the ring. Not with a baseball bat. It was a fair fight. At first he was losing, but remebering that time gave him the strength to rise up and give everything he had to stop the hate.
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Post by maya on Dec 1, 2011 14:50:56 GMT -5
I see where you are coming from and Axel is getting what is coming to him. Still for Chris he has lost everything, but yet people like this are still out there spouting off. Seeming to go on with no remorse. Yes he gave the guy a beat down, but in the right way, in the ring. Not with a baseball bat. It was a fair fight. At first he was losing, but remebering that time gave him the strength to rise up and give everything he had to stop the hate. This. Plus I bet the guy yelled something hateful at him (maybe about Olli) to provoke Christian
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Post by dalphine on Dec 1, 2011 15:15:07 GMT -5
Just watched the esp. again even thou I didn't understand a word, it was still a great esp.
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Post by angelarose on Dec 1, 2011 15:45:02 GMT -5
The episode was really great. It was heartbreaking to see Olli desperately trying to convince himself that he can move on and envision a future without Christian, and Christian not being able to envision one without Olli, not having the first clue how to go on without him. Loved Olli leaving Rafael flat, without a word or so much as a glance when he heard "Christian" and "boxing." Maybe now Rafael will get a clue. Is he for real when he starts talking about Olli buying a new house for them? Does he even listen when Olli says he's not interested in something serious right now? If Rafael doesn't realize who Olli loves now and that there's no room in his heart for him then he never will. Olli was in such a rush running through the streets to save Christian that he left Andi in his dust. The boxing sequences were really awesome, and the flashbacks were perfect. I loved the look on Christian's face when he realized who the guy was (even if he's never seen him before ) and when he got up to lay into the guy. After all this time Christian is still holding onto that pain, fear, and anger at seeing Olli hurt; the flashbacks to Olli's beating pushing him to continue was touching even if the result was brutal. Christian wasn't about to let them get away with beating Olli back then and he wasn't about to let that guy mouth off about it, and Olli, now. Even with everything that's happened, the months of separation, the divorce, Olli being with Rafael, Christian still has an enormous instinct to protect Olli, which is obviously born out of his immense love for Olli, which I just find beautiful (again, even if the outcome was brutal.) How perfect was it to hear Christian say he loves Olli as he tears into the guy? Then for Olli to come running in just as Christian collapses...very dramatic. And of course it was perfect and oh so sad to see Christian see Olli and gasp out his name just as his eyes close and his heart presumably gives out. These boys really do try their best to break our hearts, don't they?
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Post by jodabruce on Dec 1, 2011 15:56:45 GMT -5
Great acting and great episose!!
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Post by dalphine on Dec 1, 2011 16:03:50 GMT -5
These last couple of esp. have been great and have made me forget all the crap we had to go thru. JMO
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Post by silviam11 on Dec 1, 2011 16:04:18 GMT -5
Beautiful post, Angela!
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Dec 1, 2011 16:33:30 GMT -5
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats all I can really say about this ep right now!
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Post by angelarose on Dec 1, 2011 16:48:52 GMT -5
Thank you, Silvia.
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Post by Trish on Dec 1, 2011 16:54:14 GMT -5
I'm with you. Beautiful post!
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Post by angelarose on Dec 1, 2011 17:09:23 GMT -5
Thank you too, Trish.
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Post by GiGi on Dec 1, 2011 17:18:55 GMT -5
<snip> (see full post above) These boys really do try their best to break our hearts, don't they? Excellent post angelarose! I'm flipping' out with excitement to see the episode! Sounds like the months of frustration will be well worth the wait.
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Post by bel7003 on Dec 1, 2011 17:23:53 GMT -5
Great post, Angela. I agree with every word.
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Post by Trish on Dec 1, 2011 17:30:33 GMT -5
<snip> (see full post above) These boys really do try their best to break our hearts, don't they? Excellent post angelarose! I'm flipping' out with excitement to see the episode! Sounds like the months of frustration will be well worth the wait. It's still frustrating. Knowing that the two of them love each other and it has come to this. Andi is trying is best to knock some sense into Olli's head, but Olli is determined to move on. He saw the look on Chris' face when he was talking to R in NL. To think that he just feels that its the divorce that's making him feel this way is insane. I thnk that seeing him collapse will make him realize just what he means to him. I'm glad the Chris saw Olli before he passed out.
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Post by angelarose on Dec 1, 2011 17:30:36 GMT -5
Thanks, ladies! But if you don't stop now I'm going to get a big head. ;D
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Post by bel7003 on Dec 1, 2011 17:35:01 GMT -5
I thnk that seeing him collapse will make him realize just what he means to him. I'm glad the Chris saw Olli before he passed out. I hope Daniel tells Olli why Christian was attacking Steffen like that. He needs to know how far Chris was willing to go to protect him.
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Post by Trish on Dec 1, 2011 17:37:15 GMT -5
I thnk that seeing him collapse will make him realize just what he means to him. I'm glad the Chris saw Olli before he passed out. I hope Daniel tells Olli why Christian was attacking Steffen like that. He needs to know how far Chris was willing to go to protect him. Definitely. I'm sure that Olli will get mad at him and wonder why he let Chris get in the ring. You know how emotional Olli can be about Chris.
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Post by bel7003 on Dec 1, 2011 17:52:24 GMT -5
I hope Daniel tells Olli why Christian was attacking Steffen like that. He needs to know how far Chris was willing to go to protect him. Definitely. I'm sure that Olli will get mad at him and wonder why he let Chris get in the ring. You know how emotional Olli can be about Chris. Yes, I can't wait to see "mother" Olli taking care of his baby! ;D Many people don't like that, but I love it. And Olli will be prepared to pull Daniel's ear for letting Chris get into the ring.
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Post by silviam11 on Dec 1, 2011 17:52:58 GMT -5
I thnk that seeing him collapse will make him realize just what he means to him. I'm glad the Chris saw Olli before he passed out. I hope Daniel tells Olli why Christian was attacking Steffen like that. He needs to know how far Chris was willing to go to protect him. Yes, Bel! I'm looking forward to that!
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Post by bel7003 on Dec 1, 2011 18:04:48 GMT -5
I hope Daniel tells Olli why Christian was attacking Steffen like that. He needs to know how far Chris was willing to go to protect him. Yes, Bel! I'm looking forward to that! I don't know if the show will go there, but I would love to see Olli's face. Having him realize how much he means to Chris. I think they both deserve that.
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Post by silviam11 on Dec 1, 2011 18:08:45 GMT -5
Yes, Bel! I'm looking forward to that! I don't know if the show will go there, but I would love to see Olli's face. Having him realize how much he means to Chris. I think they both deserve that. It could be the prove Olli needs of Christian's true love for him!
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Post by Tagro on Dec 1, 2011 18:09:39 GMT -5
Wow! What an episode! I love angry Christian anyway, but today was exceptional!!! The hate in his eyes when he beat the living hell out of that guy... Shiver!!! And what got me the most was "just" the simple sound of the heartbeat... slo-wly... dy-ing... dooooown... LOVED IT!!! (Okay, I'm a masochist sometimes, but some of you know that already...) ;D
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Post by silviam11 on Dec 1, 2011 18:11:12 GMT -5
Definitely. I'm sure that Olli will get mad at him and wonder why he let Chris get in the ring. You know how emotional Olli can be about Chris. Yes, I can't wait to see "mother" Olli taking care of his baby! ;D Many people don't like that, but I love it. And Olli will be prepared to pull Daniel's ear for letting Chris get into the ring. Olli could be mad at Daniel, but he should never forget that, if it were not for this near death situation, he might not have realized how important Chris is for him!
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Post by silviam11 on Dec 1, 2011 18:12:53 GMT -5
Wow! What an episode! I love angry Christian anyway, but today was exceptional!!! The hate in his eyes when he beat the living hell out of that guy... Shiver!!! And what got me the most was "just" the simple sound of the heartbeat... slo-wly... dy-ing... dooooown... LOVED IT!!! (Okay, I'm a masochist sometimes, but some of you know that already...) ;D Totally agree! Sad, but perfect!
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Post by MercuryMay on Dec 1, 2011 18:16:40 GMT -5
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