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Post by phoenix-feather on Oct 15, 2011 1:52:00 GMT -5
I dont get it.....since when is Christian the partner looking for distance??? If I'm getting it right.....its like the episode where Christian came to the flatshare to return Olli's CD....but only the other way around .... I must've understood it wrong.... Is Christian really thinking Olli's trying to seduce him? and that he's the partner wanting distance, and not the one trying to get close? Why don't I speak German From what I see, they were both sorta trying to seduce each other and getting seduced too ;D Vielen Dank an Joanna und Lugia
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Post by phoenix-feather on Oct 15, 2011 2:09:05 GMT -5
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Post by bkoz on Oct 15, 2011 2:11:31 GMT -5
That almost kiss between Olli and Christian was so sweet. Well the whole first scene between the boys was cute, but darn that Andi for interrupting. And I agree phoenix, that whole conversation about the "shower gel" was like the time Christian came and returned Olli's cd, but in reverse. And Jessica needs to STFU again. So glad that Olli and Christian can now go to each other and talk about there problems. And Olli gave Christian good advice. No need to jump the gun on Theresa. See if Dana can ride and then bust Theresa's ass. All I can say about Olli's outfit, is yuck. VL needs to get a clue. The blue suit was bad enough, but to add that ugly scarf, gross. Who in there right mine would wear that to court. And I felt so bad for Nico, when Olli was describing what took place when Philip got hit. And I'm sorry but Helena looked so smug, during that whole thing. Can't Helena atleast look like she's sorry for what she did. But she didn't, to me anyways. So another good epi with the boys. Hope it continues that way, and we get more great scenes. Thank you for all your hard work Joanna and of course Lugia.
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Post by bkoz on Oct 15, 2011 2:17:04 GMT -5
For a moment I really thought Christian was gonna drag Olli to their bedroom from this look on his face, and the way he called 'Olli?' ;D Yeah me too. And Olli didn't even hesitant, he just went straight away to Christian. Olli didn't even care if Andi caught the door or not.
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Post by lolaruns on Oct 15, 2011 2:25:37 GMT -5
On the subject of the episode: I have to say, I liked this episode actually better than the previous one from a Chrolli POV (from an overall episode POV it felt a bit too all over the place), even if Christian's shower gel complaint didn't make much sense to me. Maybe just being defensive/shy in front of Andi? Who knows.
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Post by bel7003 on Oct 15, 2011 3:28:42 GMT -5
For a moment I really thought Christian was gonna drag Olli to their bedroom from this look on his face, and the way he called 'Olli?' ;D Yeah me too. And Olli didn't even hesitant, he just went straight away to Christian. Olli didn't even care if Andi caught the door or not. Christian has a funny way of keeping his distance. ;D ;D And so does Olli. ;D He went to Christian so fast he would let the door fall to the ground if Andi wasn't there. Well, if Andi wasn't there, he would do a lot more than let the door fall to the ground. ;D Thank you sooooo much, Joanna and Lugia.
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Post by JWfan on Oct 15, 2011 3:38:18 GMT -5
I dont get it.....since when is Christian the partner looking for distance??? I don't get it either! - I think he's buried his feelings so far deep inside himself that he wont start fighting for Olli until Rafael turns up.
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Post by candyflossuk on Oct 15, 2011 7:46:55 GMT -5
This is the stupidest bit of dialogue that Christian has had in a long time (and that's saying something). So he really thinks the missing doors situation was part of Oli's plan to seduce him? Christian was the one who was flirting, when he was telling Oli how great he looked in the modelling posters, causing Oli to blush and run off. Where exactly does that fit in with Oli's master plan of seduction?. Oh and Christian's the one who took his top off also, not Oli. None of that dialogue made sense considering what we'd just seen. It reminded me of the dumbass conversations between Andi and Christian that originally made me dislike them together, although at least Andi had the sense to say 'huh' here - even he doesn't have a clue what Christian is on about. Oh and it's strange how Oli still has that relationship book lying around with a bookmark in it. Usually getting a divorce spells the end of a relationship so what use does that book have to Oli now? I doubt there's a section on what to do if you've asked for a divorce though you don't really want one.... Apart from that bit of stupid dialogue, I like the rest of the episode. Jo looked stunning in that purple top and even in the orange but the dreaded scarfs ruined everything. I hope Oli and Christian have a huge fight and Christian burns the whole lot of them in a fit of rage.... after all, he is partly to blame for saying he likes colourful Oli.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2011 8:17:30 GMT -5
Playing catch up. Thanks for the clips. This is the stupidest bit of dialogue that Christian has had in a long time (and that's saying something). So he really thinks the missing doors situation was part of Oli's plan to seduce him? LOL, seriously. As I've said it a few times, you'd be hard pressed to find things of great substance or value in Andi/Christian dialogues and scenes. I just don't get it. Yet another wasted opportunity. One can only hope this dialogue is not in any way foreshadowing of how some things will pan out later. Anyway, I came, I saw and I wasn't all that impressed but then again I wasn't really expecting to be at this point. One thing that keeps hitting me though is how attractive I more and more find Olli; I really didn't use to pay attention to his physique at all. But these days? Even the terrible wardrobe choices fail to distract me from it. Age looks so good on him. Thanks again.
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Post by Trish on Oct 15, 2011 8:21:29 GMT -5
Thanks Joanna/Lugia. You girls are the best.
The first scene was so good. Loved Olli saying that the washers were on the table, but he would get them in a minute. How could Chris question what was on his mind? And I agree that I thought Chris had plans to continue where they left off when he called Olli in the room with that look, and Olli was more than willing to comply.
I'm not sure where Chris was coming from with what he told Andi, but my guess is he found the book laying around and began to second guess what happened. Andi isn't buying it though. For once he actually was right on the button. I wish Chris would take his advice and go for it. Jessica should fall in the same crack as Theresa.
So glad that both boys are feeling things they haven't felt in a long time and it's interesting that both have made comments that they haven't been sleeping well since they have been apart.
Nice seeing Olli telling Chris that they were still married and that he wanted to help him. Also nice to see that Chris was willing to talk to him. Glad Olli asked about Theresa and heard from Chris that it wasn't serious.
Chris is determined to help Dana. Hopefully he will.
Really loved the eppy.
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Post by silviam11 on Oct 15, 2011 8:37:09 GMT -5
Loved the whole episode! But I couldn't help noticing something. That book must be good! First, it is there, at hand, for anybody who needs some good advice . Then, it must be so good that Olli even bought a new one ! Andy had crossed the prefix "dis" on 05/18! Sorry, I don't know how to post the cap, but I'm sure you remember ;D "Tanz als Chance" Of course VL doesn't want us to think much , but it was funny, anyway.
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Post by ari on Oct 15, 2011 9:03:09 GMT -5
Jessica's comment telling Christian to forget the "relationship" part IMO said that that's what he wants. He doesn't want to just have sex with Olli and that's it. But he thinks that's all Olli wants from him, sex. He wants more. IMO
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Post by candyflossuk on Oct 15, 2011 9:36:53 GMT -5
Jessica's comment telling Christian to forget the "relationship" part IMO said that that's what he wants. He doesn't want to just have sex with Olli and that's it. But he thinks that's all Olli wants from him, sex. He wants more. IMO Thanks, that makes Christian's dialogue make a bit more sense. I think you're probably right with that analysis. Still a stupid scene though given what came before it. If anyone was doing the seduction it was Christian not Oli. And if you really think someone is trying to seduce you - and you are trying to distance yourself from that then don't take your shirt off infront of them.... . Playing catch up. Thanks for the clips. This is the stupidest bit of dialogue that Christian has had in a long time (and that's saying something). So he really thinks the missing doors situation was part of Oli's plan to seduce him? LOL, seriously. As I've said it a few times, you'd be hard pressed to find things of great substance or value in Andi/Christian dialogues and scenes. I just don't get it. Yet another wasted opportunity. One can only hope this dialogue is not in any way foreshadowing of how some things will pan out later. Anyway, I came, I saw and I wasn't all that impressed but then again I wasn't really expecting to be at this point. One thing that keeps hitting me though is how attractive I more and more find Olli; I really didn't use to pay attention to his physique at all. But these days? Even the terrible wardrobe choices fail to distract me from it. Age looks so good on him. Agree, Oli's looking stunning lately, no matter how much the wardrobe department appear to hate him.
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Post by Nasos29 on Oct 15, 2011 10:22:46 GMT -5
God VL wardrobe dep u r killing my Olli:) Now for Chris' comment on being the partner who seeks distance please please very please VL writers let that be what actually happens in the end and PLEASE hook Chris up with a sexy stud or a stunning lady!I beg u VL writers!
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Post by Nasos29 on Oct 15, 2011 10:38:40 GMT -5
Btw Jo Weil looks stunning indeed.Don't know how he has transformed like this but way to go Jo!How on earth did he manage to build this body so fast?I am busting my ass 24/7 and still I am no where near Jo's result.Oh well one more reason for me to "hate" Olli!
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Post by fromitaly on Oct 15, 2011 11:23:56 GMT -5
Anyway, I came, I saw and I wasn't all that impressed but then again I wasn't really expecting to be at this point. One thing that keeps hitting me though is how attractive I more and more find Olli; I really didn't use to pay attention to his physique at all. But these days? Even the terrible wardrobe choices fail to distract me from it. Age looks so good on him. Agree, Oli's looking stunning lately, no matter how much the wardrobe department appear to hate him. I completely agree. Jo/Olli is so charming! So stunning and he gets better looking with age.
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Post by teachgirl on Oct 15, 2011 11:32:13 GMT -5
Joanna, thank you so much for the caps and the video. Just above and beyond. Do you ever sleep? And thanks to Lugia for the transcript.
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Post by teachgirl on Oct 15, 2011 11:40:09 GMT -5
Jessica's comment telling Christian to forget the "relationship" part IMO said that that's what he wants. He doesn't want to just have sex with Olli and that's it. But he thinks that's all Olli wants from him, sex. He wants more. IMO This makes sense. So that means he listened to Olli. The morning after the last time they had sex, right before Olli threw him out, Olli asked him if he thought one night of good sex just erased all their problems and fixed the relationship. So maybe this indicates he now wants to fix the relationship before any sex. Good boy.
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Post by fromitaly on Oct 15, 2011 11:42:14 GMT -5
For a moment I really thought Christian was gonna drag Olli to their bedroom from this look on his face, and the way he called 'Olli?' ;D I thought the same!! It seemed really as Christian wanted carry on with that they had started lately! And that Olli wanted too seeing that he lets the door so fast! It will be because I would like see it but seemed they can't wait shut themselves away in the bedroom! In this scene I saw agitation, urge and maybe also excitation!! I thought the writers wanted comunicate us something but I don't understand what seeing that the scene is finished in that point...perhaps they wanted just to delude us!
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Post by Trish on Oct 15, 2011 11:56:22 GMT -5
I think that Chris is just being playful. I like the beginning when they bring in the door. After they put it down, Olli smile at Chris when he says it's the last door. Chris smiles back and they both get really shy and can't look at each other for long. That's when Olli decides they should just put the door up already.
Interesting that the previous day they used gloves, but to emphasis, how much a touch can mean, they didn't for these scenes.
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Post by bel7003 on Oct 15, 2011 12:04:50 GMT -5
Following on the symbolism of the doors, together they got rid of the door that separated them and together they are installing a new door, one that has brought them close to one another.
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Post by silviam11 on Oct 15, 2011 12:09:23 GMT -5
Good point, Trish. They're still too shy to approach each other. They don't know what reaction to expect from the other. We could see in their eyes and facial expressions what an apparently simple hand touch can mean, and we could even hear their breathing. That was just beautiful!
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Post by silviam11 on Oct 15, 2011 13:45:02 GMT -5
Following on the symbolism of the doors, together they got rid of the door that separated them and together they are installing a new door, one that has brought them close to one another. Yes, Bel! the doors again
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Post by blaykee on Oct 15, 2011 14:48:03 GMT -5
Following on the symbolism of the doors, together they got rid of the door that separated them and together they are installing a new door, one that has brought them close to one another. Yes, Bel! the doors again I love that they kept the door imagery. I just hope that Miriam's feng shui about the open drafts isn't foreshadowing.
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Post by angelarose on Oct 15, 2011 14:51:34 GMT -5
I'm sure everything's already been said, but... I loved the episode. The 'almost kiss' was perfect; I'm so glad neither was pulling away. Neither went to move their hand when they realized they touched, and both were leaning in for the kiss, no holding back. (Darn that Andi and his inconvenient timing!) It also looked like Olli caressed Christian's hand ever so slightly. The look Christian gave Olli when he went into the apartment after was priceless; he sure looked flirty even if he was talking about washers. And the way he said Olli's name, only Christian can say Olli's name like that. He looked like he was saying, "Olli, where did you say those washers were again...because I was distracted the first time..." And Olli was in that apartment in a flash seeing Christian's expression, he didn't even care if he dropped the door. It was nice to see them both admitting to feeling something for the other, though Miriam and Andi could see it right away anyway. I loved when Olli told Miriam he slept really well (because he had his Christian to snuggle ) and that it was really nice with Christian for the first time in a long time. So great to hear him talking like that about Christian again. As for Christian's conversation with Andi, I don't think he really believes Olli was trying to seduce him. He said all this in response to Andi saying if there are still feelings then it's worth fighting for. I think he knows he has feelings for Olli but he still has doubts if Olli has feelings for him. He's worried that maybe it's just a "shower gel situation" and that it would just lead to sex but not necessarily ultimately lead to the continuation of the relationship, which is what he wants. I think he's afraid that maybe Olli doesn't feel the same and for Olli it would just be sex, so he's scared to pursue anything. And I also don't think he really meant that he was 'looking for distance' (I mean, come on, who's he kidding?! ;D ). I also loved when Olli told Christian, "if I can do something for you, we're still married." when he saw Christian was upset. Olli was just so incredibly sweet there. I was also glad to hear Christian tell Olli the thing with Theresa was never anything serious, and Olli seemed to accept it and he didn't get mad or start yelling or throwing it in Christian's face.
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