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Post by Trish on Jun 29, 2011 17:05:53 GMT -5
Thanks for all you do ladies, but I think I'll skip this one. I'll maybe watch it during better Cholli times.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jun 29, 2011 17:08:10 GMT -5
Thanks MM, ur work is so appreciated...but I too will not be watching this one. It hurt way too much the first time.
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Post by angelarose on Jun 29, 2011 17:12:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the caps Joanna, and for the video May. Big hugs for both you girls. And some hard liquor if you like. Now I'm off to watch this train wreck, though I don't really want to. From what I've seen and heard so far, though, to me this doesn't make a whole lot of sense continuity-wise for Christian to be acting like this so soon after still trying to approach Olli and desiring to be close with him, and trying to kiss him. I mean, I don't think anybody believes he doesn't love Olli, so today just doesn't make sense. I think the writers just really missed the mark on how they portrayed the scene. Anyway, that might be it for me on comments after having to watch this debacle.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 29, 2011 17:21:35 GMT -5
Thank you, MM. You even transcribed the bed sounds of Christian.
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Post by jos87 on Jun 29, 2011 17:35:28 GMT -5
Thanks Joanna and Mercury.Your work for us, especially today, is very appreciate. Thanks again. And a great hug to everyone,especially for the people who are really sad and disappointed after this episode.
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Post by mitsaso on Jun 29, 2011 17:46:32 GMT -5
(LOL I was supposed to write this here and wrote it in the spoiler thread. Pre-jet lag, much? ) LOLOL OMG MY VIRGIN LITTLE EARS!!! Okay, the visual part wasn't worse than last year's Chribecca kiss... that still wins in disgust points. But what Charlie heard... ZOMG LOL I WANT TO UNHEAR THIS (but kudos to Thore for the tittilating and scandalous sex sounds... it gave me many visuals in which his partner was conveniently cut out) ;D My few bullet points on this and then I'm leaving for Barcelona (where I'll meet Arno in his stop-over, lol ) 1) CHRISTIAN WAS DRUNK, HE DRUNK ONE BEER, SO MUCH FOR YOUR SOBER ARGUMENTS DD AND PRU!!! (lol joking of course) 2) How utterly bizzare was it that Theresa mentioned his "wife" a bazillion times and he didn't correct her? It wasn't like he hid it to keep up his hopes of fucking her, because that was a thought that came to him after he said "I suppose I'm free". That's when the lightbulb went over his head and he was all like "Olli will never take me back, let's move on and act carelessly". Which brings me to 3). Christian just gave up in this episode. There's no excuse about it, because there needn't be one. The second he told Theresa "I suppose I'm free" it dawned on him that he and Olli are practically broken up. And sure, he could call Olli or tell him that he's not going after him anymore, but, well, sometimes you move on with actions, not words. (plus I think he's gonna tell him next chrolli-episode or something). He could have tried more, or the writers could have upped the ante on the previous episode to make Olli push him away in a more obvious manner, but in the end it doesn't matter. They wanted Christian to fuck a woman to prolong their break-up, and they did it. I won't go blaming Christian-a fictional character-for the writer's lazy choices, but I hope in the future they either redeem him appropriately or at least flesh out his motives. 4) Let's be glad it didn't happen in bulletponts!VL instead of XL!VL, otherwise we'd probably have skipped all the previous scenes and gone straight to "Charlie listens to Christian having sex in the apartment, then finds out it's not Olli". 5) I'm glad VL XL exists, because it can give us funny filler moments like that with Charlie and Becca today. Bulletpoints!Chrolli would NEVER have given us that. Finally) Thore should definitely take up on some porn-voiceover acting. He's got a talent for it!!! Or at LEAST they should use these talents when Chrolli get back together, and have Andi or Dana overhear him moan "Harder, faster! Slap that ass!!!"
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Post by jos87 on Jun 29, 2011 18:08:04 GMT -5
LOLOL OMG MY VIRGIN LITTLE EARS!!! Okay, the visual part wasn't worse than last year's Chribecca kiss... that still wins in disgust points. But what Charlie heard... ZOMG LOL I WANT TO UNHEAR THIS (but kudos to Thore for the tittilating and scandalous sex sounds... it gave me many visuals in which his partner was conveniently cut out) ;D My few bullet points on this and then I'm leaving for Barcelona (where I'll meet Arno in his stop-over, lol ) 1) CHRISTIAN WAS DRUNK, HE DRUNK ONE BEER, SO MUCH FOR YOUR SOBER ARGUMENTS DD AND PRU!!! (lol joking of course) 2) How utterly bizzare was it that Theresa mentioned his "wife" a bazillion times and he didn't correct her? It wasn't like he hid it to keep up his hopes of fucking her, because that was a thought that came to him after he said "I suppose I'm free". That's when the lightbulb went over his head and he was all like "Olli will never take me back, let's move on and act carelessly". Which brings me to 3). Christian just gave up in this episode. There's no excuse about it, because there needn't be one. The second he told Theresa "I suppose I'm free" it dawned on him that he and Olli are practically broken up. And sure, he could call Olli or tell him that he's not going after him anymore, but, well, sometimes you move on with actions, not words. (plus I think he's gonna tell him next chrolli-episode or something). He could have tried more, or the writers could have upped the ante on the previous episode to make Olli push him away in a more obvious manner, but in the end it doesn't matter. They wanted Christian to fuck a woman to prolong their break-up, and they did it. I won't go blaming Christian-a fictional character-for the writer's lazy choices, but I hope in the future they either redeem him appropriately or at least flesh out his motives. 4) Let's be glad it didn't happen in bulletponts!VL instead of XL!VL, otherwise we'd probably have skipped all the previous scenes and gone straight to "Charlie listens to Christian having sex in the apartment, then finds out it's not Olli". 5) I'm glad VL XL exists, because it can give us funny filler moments like that with Charlie and Becca today. Bulletpoints!Chrolli would NEVER have given us that. Finally) Thore should definitely take up on some porn-voiceover acting. He's got a talent for it!!! Or at LEAST they should use these talents when Chrolli get back together, and have Andi or Dana overhear him moan "Harder, faster! Slap that ass!!!" ok how can't I love you? This post is amazing. I see the episode and even i don't like many things,i'm agree about what you said, especially the point number 3. However it's so sad. I have to add that the real thing that i found a little disgusting was not the part before the sex with Theresa (in front of the apartment) or the moment after sex;but the moment when they let us (and Charlie) listen Christian's porn-voiceover (to use your words,mitsaso). I loved too the funny scene between Charlie (I'm happy that with the new VL she is not only a background character) and Rebecca. And i like this VL XL format because i can see Emilio ;D in this episode i really feel sorry for Charlie in the moment she knew that Christian had not sex with Olli. Her face express everything.And,finally,we listen Christian's porn-voiceover (i can't find the english traslation for what in italian we call "gemiti") but not Theresa's one. Maybe she is really used to be f**cked by horses that Christian's d**ck is not enough for her ;D ;D ;D ;D Why the writers made this choice? For me was not so traumatic to see that scenes but was really sad after 3 years of Chrolli
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Post by bkoz on Jun 29, 2011 18:08:16 GMT -5
Thank you MM for the vid and translations.
I'm glad I ate before watching. Although I'm feeling kind of sick after seeing it. I'm more sad about this eppy. Right when Olli was I think gonna give Christian a chance, Christian gives up and takes his ring off. Sad. But very soapy. And the Theresa and Christian sex, the visual wasn't bad, it was the moaning that grossed me out. Poor Charlie so excited, and then BAM!!! Please VL no more sex sounds, between Christian and Theresa, my ears can't take it. Unless of course if it's Olli and Christian doing it, then I'm all for that.
Good scene between Nico and Olli and Olli and Andi.
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Post by mandalai on Jun 29, 2011 18:13:58 GMT -5
Thank you lady joanna and lady MM I'll watch this one when I'll be sure to be able to stand that. At the moment it's too much for me. But believe me, I really appreciate your incredible job.
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Post by sonia38 on Jun 29, 2011 18:24:36 GMT -5
OK, so maybe I was so prepared for this that it did not even phase me. I watched it twice to be sure what I was seeing was correct. Christian is using Theresa to get over his pain of losing Olli and that's it. Too bad for Theresa but that's what Christian is doing. Apart from Christian moaning I did not even think it was that bad and I am going to say this, I truly believe that Christian is in denial, what he did was wrong but he is in a bad place just like Olli. the scene with him and Theresa sitting on the bench, he just came off as aloof, he just does not care about what happens anymore since he truly thinks things are over between him and Olli.
Christian did not correct Theresa about the wife thing because it's none of her business and they don't know each other that well and by the way, I did not find that kissing scene hot at all.
Olli telling Jessica off was priceless, she deserved it. Christian taking off his ring, very sad but it did not even phase Theresa that Christian is married to a man, is she out of her mind, I would run for the hills if it was me. I can see even in this episode that Christian can protest all he wants, he still loves Olli.
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Post by bkoz on Jun 29, 2011 18:33:17 GMT -5
OK, so maybe I was so prepared for this that it did not even phase me. I watched it twice to be sure what I was seeing was correct. Christian is using Theresa to get over his pain of losing Olli and that's it. Too bad for Theresa but that's what Christian is doing. Apart from Christian moaning I did not even think it was that bad and I am going to say this, I truly believe that Christian is in denial, what he did was wrong but he is in a bad place just like Olli. the scene with him and Theresa sitting on the bench, he just came off as aloof, he just does not care about what happens anymore since he truly thinks things are over between him and Olli. Olli telling Jessica off was priceless, she deserved it. Christian taking off his ring, very sad but it did not even phase Theresa that Christian is married to a man, is she out of her mind, I would run for the hills if it was me. I can see even in this episode that Christian can protest all he wants, he still loves Olli. Twice sonia. Your better than me. I can only stomach it once. But I do agree with what you said. Christian has just given up. This eppy was really sad.
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Post by joanna on Jun 29, 2011 18:36:05 GMT -5
OK, so maybe I was so prepared for this that it did not even phase me. I watched it twice to be sure what I was seeing was correct. Christian is using Theresa to get over his pain of losing Olli and that's it. Too bad for Theresa but that's what Christian is doing. Apart from Christian moaning I did not even think it was that bad and I am going to say this, I truly believe that Christian is in denial, what he did was wrong but he is in a bad place just like Olli. the scene with him and Theresa sitting on the bench, he just came off as aloof, he just does not care about what happens anymore since he truly thinks things are over between him and Olli. Christian did not correct Theresa about the wife thing because it's none of her business and they don't know each other that well and by the way, I did not find that kissing scene hot at all. Olli telling Jessica off was priceless, she deserved it. Christian taking off his ring, very sad but it did not even phase Theresa that Christian is married to a man, is she out of her mind, I would run for the hills if it was me. I can see even in this episode that Christian can protest all he wants, he still loves Olli. If you could 'like' board posts, I would definitely 'like' yours ...and do!
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Post by mandalai on Jun 29, 2011 18:41:02 GMT -5
OK, so maybe I was so prepared for this that it did not even phase me. I watched it twice to be sure what I was seeing was correct. Christian is using Theresa to get over his pain of losing Olli and that's it. Too bad for Theresa but that's what Christian is doing. Apart from Christian moaning I did not even think it was that bad and I am going to say this, I truly believe that Christian is in denial, what he did was wrong but he is in a bad place just like Olli. the scene with him and Theresa sitting on the bench, he just came off as aloof, he just does not care about what happens anymore since he truly thinks things are over between him and Olli. Christian did not correct Theresa about the wife thing because it's none of her business and they don't know each other that well and by the way, I did not find that kissing scene hot at all. Olli telling Jessica off was priceless, she deserved it. Christian taking off his ring, very sad but it did not even phase Theresa that Christian is married to a man, is she out of her mind, I would run for the hills if it was me. I can see even in this episode that Christian can protest all he wants, he still loves Olli. I loved your post sonia. And I agree with you.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jun 29, 2011 18:43:40 GMT -5
OK, so maybe I was so prepared for this that it did not even phase me. I watched it twice to be sure what I was seeing was correct. Christian is using Theresa to get over his pain of losing Olli and that's it. Too bad for Theresa but that's what Christian is doing. Apart from Christian moaning I did not even think it was that bad and I am going to say this, I truly believe that Christian is in denial, what he did was wrong but he is in a bad place just like Olli. the scene with him and Theresa sitting on the bench, he just came off as aloof, he just does not care about what happens anymore since he truly thinks things are over between him and Olli. Christian did not correct Theresa about the wife thing because it's none of her business and they don't know each other that well and by the way, I did not find that kissing scene hot at all. Olli telling Jessica off was priceless, she deserved it. Christian taking off his ring, very sad but it did not even phase Theresa that Christian is married to a man, is she out of her mind, I would run for the hills if it was me. I can see even in this episode that Christian can protest all he wants, he still loves Olli. Awesome post, girl. Totally agree.
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Post by jos87 on Jun 29, 2011 18:44:55 GMT -5
i add my "like" for Sonia's post. Very good analysis. And like you i don't find that scenes Hot. Christian with Dyonisos can be hot. But he with Theresa absolutely not
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Post by bel7003 on Jun 29, 2011 18:49:23 GMT -5
OK, so maybe I was so prepared for this that it did not even phase me. I watched it twice to be sure what I was seeing was correct. Christian is using Theresa to get over his pain of losing Olli and that's it. Too bad for Theresa but that's what Christian is doing. Apart from Christian moaning I did not even think it was that bad and I am going to say this, I truly believe that Christian is in denial, what he did was wrong but he is in a bad place just like Olli. the scene with him and Theresa sitting on the bench, he just came off as aloof, he just does not care about what happens anymore since he truly thinks things are over between him and Olli. Olli telling Jessica off was priceless, she deserved it. Christian taking off his ring, very sad but it did not even phase Theresa that Christian is married to a man, is she out of her mind, I would run for the hills if it was me. I can see even in this episode that Christian can protest all he wants, he still loves Olli. I so agree with you! Today, Christian was the living image of defeat. He just realized there was nothing he could do to make Olli accept him and so decided to accept Theresa's advances. At least she seemed to want him, because nobody else did. (Everyone is so concerned with Olli that no one cares about how he's doing. Not that he makes it easy... ) Besides I think Theresa was good for Christian (*runs to hide under the table* ;D). She's so practical and uncomplicated. Their dialogue was priceless. She tries to have Christian open up and discuss his marriage, but he wasn't up to it, so she was all "ok, let's cut to the chase, we've got better things to do". After the mess that his life has been lately, I think Christian really needed someone like Theresa. Of course he hasn't got over Olli. And today I confirmed what I always thought: he doesn't look very happy afterwards. He admits the sex was good (that moaning was so funny... I hope they use it again when he makes up with Olli ), but the look on his face says it all. And the hurt when he put the ring on the table (for those expecting Christian to put up a show and cry his eyes out... that's not how he acts) gives away his defeat. And the strawberries... he couldn't even look at them. And don't tell me they don't mean anything. Theresa could have found a ton of things in that fridge... but it had to be strawberries. ;D As for Olli, I liked his interaction with Nico and with Andi. Man, ironic Olli is devastating. I was angry at Andi for the way he acted before, but he's redeemed himself in my eyes. He tried to help Olli yesterday and today he took all of Olli's ironic, almost insulting remarks with a friendly smile. Have a kiss, Andi. Oh, and Jessica, I think she has a soft spot for Olli. Now, it was so sad to see them with their wedding rings: Christian taking his off and Olli putting his on. Worst case of bad timing ever.
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Post by mandalai on Jun 29, 2011 19:04:39 GMT -5
i add my "like" for Sonia's post. Very good analysis. And like you i don't find that scenes Hot. Christian with Dyonisos can be hot. But he with Theresa absolutely not ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D you rock @jos!
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Post by sonia38 on Jun 29, 2011 19:13:39 GMT -5
Christian putting his arm around her to tell her she was good and that the sex was good, helloooooo, I'm sorry but that screams to me not so true, he is a really nice guy and don't want to hurt her feelings but I doubt very much that the sex was even close compare to what he shares with the Big O. And all that moaning, probably just faking it, women fake it all the time By the way, I love the way Jessica calls Olli. Is it just me or does Jessica lights up every time she sees him.
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Post by angelarose on Jun 29, 2011 19:33:44 GMT -5
OK, so maybe I was so prepared for this that it did not even phase me. I watched it twice to be sure what I was seeing was correct. Christian is using Theresa to get over his pain of losing Olli and that's it. Too bad for Theresa but that's what Christian is doing. Apart from Christian moaning I did not even think it was that bad and I am going to say this, I truly believe that Christian is in denial, what he did was wrong but he is in a bad place just like Olli. the scene with him and Theresa sitting on the bench, he just came off as aloof, he just does not care about what happens anymore since he truly thinks things are over between him and Olli. Christian did not correct Theresa about the wife thing because it's none of her business and they don't know each other that well and by the way, I did not find that kissing scene hot at all. Olli telling Jessica off was priceless, she deserved it. Christian taking off his ring, very sad but it did not even phase Theresa that Christian is married to a man, is she out of her mind, I would run for the hills if it was me. I can see even in this episode that Christian can protest all he wants, he still loves Olli. Thank you sonia!! I was just about to post something very similar to this and you just said it much better (and much more concise!) than I ever could. I just got through watching it and oddly enough I felt a little better afterwards (aside from hearing the moaning ) To me, I don't care if Christian enjoyed the sex, so what, maybe he's bisexual. But there's no emotional connection with Theresa for him like there is with Olli (who, to me, he clearly still loves) and he'll realize that, and that with Theresa it was just sex with no feeling. I actually interpreted his looking at Olli's door as not wanting to get caught, but then he just gave up. And after, to me, he did look pensive and sad and mournful (that bit about "you were good..." to me was his embarrassment in being called on thinking about Olli, and trying to cover and hide his feelings.) And when she asked if it was really over and he put the ring on the table, his face didn't look like he really thought it was over for him. More like, my head says it's over, but my heart is still in love with Olli. He's in denial, and the sex with Theresa seemed more like self-sabotage to me. He can't take the limbo and the heartache of not being with Olli so he does something drastic to try and put an end to the relationship and put that part of his life behind him. But it won't work, his heart belongs to Olli. See, I told you sonia could say it better, but there's my two cents anyway.
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Post by angelarose on Jun 29, 2011 19:42:39 GMT -5
Christian putting his arm around her to tell her she was good and that the sex was good, helloooooo, I'm sorry but that screams to me not so true, he is a really nice guy and don't want to hurt her feelings but I doubt very much that the sex was even close compare to what he shares with the Big O. And all that moaning, probably just faking it, women fake it all the time By the way, I love the way Jessica calls Olli. Is it just me or does Jessica lights up every time she sees him. Gotta second this one too, sonia! As I said earlier I don't really care if he thought she was good or not (to me it speaks nothing as to who he LOVES), but that seemed like a total BS job to me as well. He didn't seem all that convincing, and to me was just trying to draw attention away from the fact he WAS thinking about Olli.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2011 19:43:42 GMT -5
By the way, I love the way Jessica calls Olli. Is it just me or does Jessica lights up every time she sees him. definitely ! ;D btw have you seen her last Jessica-vlog !
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Post by banshee on Jun 29, 2011 19:46:21 GMT -5
OK, so maybe I was so prepared for this that it did not even phase me. I watched it twice to be sure what I was seeing was correct. Christian is using Theresa to get over his pain of losing Olli and that's it. Too bad for Theresa but that's what Christian is doing. Apart from Christian moaning I did not even think it was that bad and I am going to say this, I truly believe that Christian is in denial, what he did was wrong but he is in a bad place just like Olli. the scene with him and Theresa sitting on the bench, he just came off as aloof, he just does not care about what happens anymore since he truly thinks things are over between him and Olli. Christian did not correct Theresa about the wife thing because it's none of her business and they don't know each other that well and by the way, I did not find that kissing scene hot at all. Olli telling Jessica off was priceless, she deserved it. Christian taking off his ring, very sad but it did not even phase Theresa that Christian is married to a man, is she out of her mind, I would run for the hills if it was me. I can see even in this episode that Christian can protest all he wants, he still loves Olli. I loved your post sonia. And I agree with you. This is my take as well. (And thanks 1000x over MM for all you do)
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Post by angelarose on Jun 29, 2011 19:47:32 GMT -5
By the way, I love the way Jessica calls Olli. Is it just me or does Jessica lights up every time she sees him. definitely ! ;D btw have you seen her last Jessica-vlog ! lola, I saw something about this but I can't watch. Would you mind filling me in on what it's all about. Please.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2011 20:06:35 GMT -5
definitely ! ;D btw have you seen her last Jessica-vlog ! lola, I saw something about this but I can't watch. Would you mind filling me in on what it's all about. Please. she thinks , she is the only one who cares about Olli - just her opinion of course ;D but IMO - she kinda likes him - how much she's able to like someone other than herself
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