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Post by mandalai on Jun 9, 2011 15:54:24 GMT -5
since she is lusting after her sister's husband. Maybe Jessica will give her some pointers on how to get him. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 9, 2011 16:01:37 GMT -5
Yeah, like Jssica has any experience with actually succeeding in keeping a man ;D ;D ;D ;D
If Dana cared only about getting Hagen she would just have let him kiss her when she tried. But that's not that thing, she doesn't just him in her bed (imo) she wants him only if she can have him permanently.
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Post by Trish on Jun 9, 2011 16:12:05 GMT -5
She shouldn't want him at all. He's taken.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 16:22:36 GMT -5
She shouldn't want him at all. He's taken. Forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest!
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Post by gabyta07 on Jun 9, 2011 16:37:44 GMT -5
I've justed added my caps, as clickable/enlargeable thumbnails, to the thread opener... CLICK THE BELOW PIC to view all of my caps in their full size...This one was the winner for me, it was like Olli: Why do you keep hurting me? Why are you against me? Why dont you come back to me?
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Post by Trish on Jun 9, 2011 16:37:46 GMT -5
She shouldn't want him at all. He's taken. Forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest! Really? I have no lustful feelings for my brother-in-law, as a matter of fact he kind of grosses me out.
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Post by gabyta07 on Jun 9, 2011 16:43:47 GMT -5
I didnt like very much Christian here Yes I agree Olli is being childish, like trying to get back at Christian by invinting jessica. But Christian shouldnt have never made mentioned of it, specially when he has not been a saint. He should understand Olli is hurting, and no matter how many times he says "Im sorry", Olli wont ever get past that, well hopefully one day, but not right now.
here indeed was poor Olli.
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Post by Trish on Jun 9, 2011 16:48:07 GMT -5
I don't think it was poor Olli. He is mad at the world because he is hurting and does care who he brings down with him. He's not hurting anyone but himself. He hates Jessica being around as much as anyone else does, but won't tell her to leave, because he wants to be stubborn, just as Andi said. That is childish and Christian had a right to say so. Olli knows he's wrong, that's why he had that look on his face at the end and wanted Christian to say something so that he could tear into him again, but Christian didn't he just walked awlay and left Olli to tlhink about what he had done.
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Post by bel7003 on Jun 9, 2011 16:55:12 GMT -5
I've justed added my caps, as clickable/enlargeable thumbnails, to the thread opener... CLICK THE BELOW PIC to view all of my caps in their full size...This one was the winner for me, it was like Olli: Why do you keep hurting me? Why are you against me? Why dont you come back to me? And Christian is thinking: "I would love to come back, if only you gave me a chance."
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Post by mandalai on Jun 9, 2011 16:57:49 GMT -5
Christian deciding to be silent and leave Olli alone in the hallway does the right thing. If he had said something Olli would have started bitching. Olli has all my comprehension because he's hurt and devastated but as I said in other posts if you are hurt and devastated you can do only 2 things: forgiving or forgetting. You must move on. This impasse is totally useless for both so I think it would be time to talk and try fixing things. Or moving on. Unfortunately, it's so obvious Olli is acting for provoking Christian. What a pity if you consider that this attitude has the only result to hurt himself much more than Christian did. God, let's end this mess. I want my guys back!
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Post by evajan2 on Jun 9, 2011 16:59:00 GMT -5
Olli knows he's wrong, that's why he had that look on his face at the end and wanted Christian to say something so that he could tear into him again, but Christian didn't he just walked awlay and left Olli to tlhink about what he had done. really? can you read minds? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Trish on Jun 9, 2011 17:01:34 GMT -5
Yes he is hurting himself. He does need to let it go, because obviously it sitting there festering isn't doing him any good. Maybe what he needs to do is to get away from the situation. He said he wanted space, but if you are surrounded by all the things that remind you of what has happened what good is it.
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Post by candyflossuk on Jun 9, 2011 17:04:20 GMT -5
Thanks MM. I wasn't completely happy about Andi, but when he spoke to Olli at the end. He was right. Olli is doing what he is doing because he's being stubborn. He can't stand Jessica being around and yet he's doing it just to spite Christian. I think that Olli kind of realized it too, then he looked at Christian, expecting him to say something so that he could get another dig in, but Christian just gave him that sly, I told you so, smile and walked away. Leaviing Olli standing there. I will say, that I don't get why Olli is letting Jessica have the run of the place. Dana letting her use the shower, which was strange. Did she come up in a towel? Where where her clothes and why were all the lights off. I hated it actually. What right does Andi have to lecture Oli about friendship? He's been a terrible friend to Oli these past few weeks. He didn't seem to give a crap about the state of Chrolli's relationship after the Jessica incident as long as he and Helena were ok again. Now Jessica being there has threatened his relationship with Helena and suddenly he's all concerned about the state of their friendship/Oli's 'stubborness' keeping Chrolli apart? Yeah whatever Andi, Oli's better off without friends like him! It was completely in character though that he'd think Oli was being stubborn. Coz all he and Christian have ever done is acted like that night with Jessica was no big deal and that Oli/Helena should just get over it already . So to him, Oli's just being stubborn for still being angry over Christian's little 'lapse' with Jessica . A better friend would try to understand that Oli is hurt and therefore lashing out, not thinking properly and making bad decisions (allowing Jessica to move in). Hell, even Dana, who is Christian's friend more than Oli's and hasn't even known Oli that long seems to grasp this and could see Oli's point of view. But no, not Oli's so called best mate. What an idiot he is. I hope Andi stays away from them both for a while now. I absolutely hate him with Christian because they turn into stupid macho idiots together and he doesn't seem to give much of a crap about Oli.
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Post by Trish on Jun 9, 2011 17:10:44 GMT -5
I might not like the reasoning behind what Andi said, I too thought he had a lot of nerve, but what he said was true. Olli is just being stubborn. He doesn't want Jessica around anymore than they do. The way he looked at her when she came in and left the room. He wants to throw her out, but he's not giong to, because he doesn't want anyone telling him what to do. You might not like that what was said come from Andi and Christian, but what they said was true and Olli knows it.
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Post by mariesun on Jun 9, 2011 17:14:50 GMT -5
I hated it actually. What right does Andi have to lecture Oli about friendship? He's been a terrible friend to Oli these past few weeks. He didn't seem to give a crap about the state of Chrolli's relationship after the Jessica incident as long as he and Helena were ok again. Now Jessica being there has threatened his relationship with Helena and suddenly he's all concerned about the state of their friendship/Oli's 'stubborness' keeping Chrolli apart? Yeah whatever Andi, Oli's better off without friends like him! It was completely in character though that he'd think Oli was being stubborn. Coz all he and Christian have ever done is acted like that night with Jessica was no big deal and that Oli/Helena should just get over it already . So to him, Oli's just being stubborn for still being angry over Christian's little 'lapse' with Jessica . A better friend would try to understand that Oli is hurt and therefore lashing out, not thinking properly and making bad decisions (allowing Jessica to move in). Hell, even Dana, who is Christian's friend more than Oli's and hasn't even known Oli that long seems to grasp this and could see Oli's point of view. But no, not Oli's so called best mate. What an idiot he is. I hope Andi stays away from them both for a while now. I absolutely hate him with Christian because they turn into stupid macho idiots together and he doesn't seem to give much of a crap about Oli. great post !! I agree with you
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Post by fillelina on Jun 9, 2011 17:16:25 GMT -5
I hated it actually. What right does Andi have to lecture Oli about friendship? He's been a terrible friend to Oli these past few weeks. He didn't seem to give a crap about the state of Chrolli's relationship after the Jessica incident as long as he and Helena were ok again. Now Jessica being there has threatened his relationship with Helena and suddenly he's all concerned about the state of their friendship/Oli's 'stubborness' keeping Chrolli apart? Yeah whatever Andi, Oli's better off without friends like him! It was completely in character though that he'd think Oli was being stubborn. Coz all he and Christian have ever done is acted like that night with Jessica was no big deal and that Oli/Helena should just get over it already . So to him, Oli's just being stubborn for still being angry over Christian's little 'lapse' with Jessica . A better friend would try to understand that Oli is hurt and therefore lashing out, not thinking properly and making bad decisions (allowing Jessica to move in). Hell, even Dana, who is Christian's friend more than Oli's and hasn't even known Oli that long seems to grasp this and could see Oli's point of view. But no, not Oli's so called best mate. What an idiot he is. I hope Andi stays away from them both for a while now. I absolutely hate him with Christian because they turn into stupid macho idiots together and he doesn't seem to give much of a crap about Oli. great post !! I agree with you Me too!
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Post by sonia38 on Jun 9, 2011 17:23:05 GMT -5
Thank you Dana for letting Andy remember that little bit of information because due to his stupidity he seems to have forgotten. And he certainly should not be throwing stones at Olli because he cause this uncomfortableness all on himself. The nerve of him to spill the beams in front of Christian like it would make a difference. Oh Andi, after all the times Olli has been there for you And Christian calling Olli selfish is like the pot calling the kettle black.
I am loving the fact that Jessica is getting under Andi's skin,because Andi seems to have lost his memory. As I stated yesterday and I still believe it, Olli is not doing anything to get back at Christian. he's just caught in a tough spot.
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Post by candyflossuk on Jun 9, 2011 17:53:25 GMT -5
I might not like the reasoning behind what Andi said, I too thought he had a lot of nerve, but what he said was true. Olli is just being stubborn. He doesn't want Jessica around anymore than they do. The way he looked at her when she came in and left the room. He wants to throw her out, but he's not giong to, because he doesn't want anyone telling him what to do. You might not like that what was said come from Andi and Christian, but what they said was true and Olli knows it. I'm not saying that Andi doesn't have a point about Jessica because he does. But for him to question Oli's friendship was so hypocritical it was laughable. And so to me, the impact of that point is kind of lost due to Andi's sheer hypocrisy. In fact if I was Oli it'd just make me even more stubborn and less likely to listen to reason. With so called 'friends' like Andi around him it's not wonder he makes stupid decisions. That's why I really liked Dana in today's episode. Finally someone who isn't trying to brush Christian/Andi's infidelity under the carpet as if it's nothing. And finally someone who speaks up when Andi's doing his poor me routine! She'll probably be back to being annoying talking about horses next ep but was a nice change for someone to try and see it from Oli's point of view for once.
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Post by Trish on Jun 9, 2011 17:57:53 GMT -5
My point is that Olli needs to see that he's only hurting himself. He is being stubborn and selfish. You are right, he will probably be even more stubborn given the source, but given the way he looked at Christian, and the look that Christian gave him before he walked back into the apartment, showed that he knew what Andi was saying was right.
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Post by AndreB on Jun 9, 2011 18:37:19 GMT -5
Being on Helandi's side is like a death sentence in this show, because they are just one of the most hated couples in VL's history. ;D It's telling that people prefer even otherwise despised Jessica in comparison to them. "Poor" Christian was sacrificed as a roadkill in this episode, falling under fanwrath - this time even a little bit undeserved. ;D Maybe writers should have left him completely out of this episode? www3.daserste.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1248036
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jun 9, 2011 19:39:09 GMT -5
I hated it actually. What right does Andi have to lecture Oli about friendship? He's been a terrible friend to Oli these past few weeks. He didn't seem to give a crap about the state of Chrolli's relationship after the Jessica incident as long as he and Helena were ok again. Now Jessica being there has threatened his relationship with Helena and suddenly he's all concerned about the state of their friendship/Oli's 'stubborness' keeping Chrolli apart? Yeah whatever Andi, Oli's better off without friends like him! It was completely in character though that he'd think Oli was being stubborn. Coz all he and Christian have ever done is acted like that night with Jessica was no big deal and that Oli/Helena should just get over it already . So to him, Oli's just being stubborn for still being angry over Christian's little 'lapse' with Jessica . A better friend would try to understand that Oli is hurt and therefore lashing out, not thinking properly and making bad decisions (allowing Jessica to move in). Hell, even Dana, who is Christian's friend more than Oli's and hasn't even known Oli that long seems to grasp this and could see Oli's point of view. But no, not Oli's so called best mate. What an idiot he is. I hope Andi stays away from them both for a while now. I absolutely hate him with Christian because they turn into stupid macho idiots together and he doesn't seem to give much of a crap about Oli. great post !! I agree with you Me too, nicely put
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 1:18:49 GMT -5
Just finished seeing this episode and all I have to say is that today I applaud to Dana Also, Andi please get lost! The nerve you have say that Olli is ruining the "friendship." You sure didn't think that when you wanted the boys to cover for your big and fat lies to Helena huh? I get that what Andi said at the end had some truth to it, but when his attitude and actions have cause pain to his "friends," he's the least person to have the right to judge Olli. I still don't know why did Olli let Jessica moved in, but I hope is to trick her into telling the truth. Maybe an "accidental" push to the wall again may work ;D I'm glad that Christian decided to just stayed quiet, turn around and leave. Because if he had answered back, man, another war was going to occur.
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Post by luckycharm on Jun 10, 2011 1:31:09 GMT -5
Just finished seeing this episode and all I have to say is that today I applaud to Dana Also, Andi please get lost! The nerve you have say that Olli is ruining the "friendship." You sure didn't think that when you wanted the boys to cover for your big and fat lies to Helena huh? I get that what Andi said at the end had some truth to it, but when his attitude and actions have cause pain to his "friends," he's the least person to have the right to judge Olli. Seriously. Andi speaks the truth but it's hard to swallow amidst all his hypocrisy. "Friendship", my ass. Olli is probably justifying, to himself, that he is doing nothing wrong with Jessica moving in, because he DID push her against a wall.........but that boy definitely has not-totally-pure intentions with Jessica. He's Olivia's cousin, afterall. Better than ANY OTHER character, Olli knows what Olivia-like people can do, and also better than ANY OTHER character, he was most willing to see the good in her. He probably sees a lot of Olivia in Jessica. The "lost little girl looking for love, attention and affection, but trying too hard and failing"....... And, ofc, it's the perfect way to taunt Christian , who has decided to situate himself right across Olli, and thus, getting on Olli's nerve even more by being that close (when Olli is not ready yet). And, add to that, with Christian always trying to minimize his actions...I mean..."stunt" with Jessica.......well, what better (and deliciously devious) way to make it damn hard for Christian to just sweep it under the rug as a "stunt" than to have the reminder parading around in front of his face, day in and day out? "Stunt" for stunt. Go in bitch, let have. (i know in RL relationships, this is not mature , but hey, I'm loving it!) Ich liebe Olli! ;D And, ofc, ich liebe Joanna und MercuryMay. ;D ;D PS - gotta give props to Jana for killing it w/ Jessica's characterization lately. It's hella fun to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 1:38:28 GMT -5
Just finished seeing this episode and all I have to say is that today I applaud to Dana Also, Andi please get lost! The nerve you have say that Olli is ruining the "friendship." You sure didn't think that when you wanted the boys to cover for your big and fat lies to Helena huh? I get that what Andi said at the end had some truth to it, but when his attitude and actions have cause pain to his "friends," he's the least person to have the right to judge Olli. Seriously. Andi speaks the truth but it's hard to swallow amidst all his hypocrisy. "Friendship", my ass. Olli is probably justifying, to himself, that he is doing nothing wrong with Jessica moving in, because he DID push her against a wall.........but that boy definitely has not-totally-pure intentions with Jessica. He's Olivia's cousin, afterall. Better than ANY OTHER character, Olli knows what Olivia-like people can do, and also better than ANY OTHER character, he was most willing to see the good in her. He probably sees a lot of Olivia in Jessica. The "lost little girl looking for love, attention and affection, but trying too hard and failing"....... And, ofc, it's the perfect way to taunt Christian , who has decided to situate himself right across Olli, and thus, getting on Olli's nerve even more by being that close (when Olli is not ready yet). And, add to that, with Christian always trying to minimize his actions...I mean..."stunt" with Jessica.......well, what better (and deliciously devious) way to make it damn hard for Christian to just sweep it under the rug as a "stunt" than to have the reminder parading around in front of his face, day in and day out? "Stunt" for stunt. Go in bitch, let have. (i know in RL relationships, this is not mature , but hey, I'm loving it!) Ich liebe Olli! ;D And, ofc, ich liebe Joanna und MercuryMay. ;D ;D PS - gotta give props to Jana for killing it w/ Jessica's characterization lately. It's hella fun to watch. "Keep friends close, and enemies closer."
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Post by luckycharm on Jun 10, 2011 1:42:33 GMT -5
Olli: Keep friends close, and enemies closer. Christian: Sleeping with the enemy.
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