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Post by pru on Aug 8, 2011 23:59:01 GMT -5
I saw them walking in. That was some rock that Victor gave Maggie. Me too, md.
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Post by Jordi0n on Aug 9, 2011 2:53:45 GMT -5
Too bad, wouldn't be surprised if it's true, although about.com is hardly the leading authority on soaps I don't think, I'd wait for a more legitimate source. Frankly though I've been suspicious for a while as to how far this s/l would actually get. IF its true I wonder if Freddie/Sonny will be let go.
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 9, 2011 4:28:39 GMT -5
Ugh.. I can't believe I got this invested only to find out that Will is not even going to come out! Whatever.. I'll watch it in September and see what happens, but I don't have much hope. I thinkt the writers are backtracking, which I have expected for a while now. I think they got cold feet. But like I said.. if it doesn't happen then I'll just stop watching Days all together. I am pissed. I have been watching the soap for almost 15 years now. But I am done with it if Will is not gay. Again.. I'll wait to see how it all pans out, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 9, 2011 9:04:23 GMT -5
Well, if finally Will didn't come out, Days would defeat Y&R at the most embarrasing attempt of a gay storyline ever
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Post by pru on Aug 9, 2011 9:11:12 GMT -5
Well, if finally Will didn't come out, Days would defeat Y&R at the most embarrasing attempt of a gay storyline ever Exactly, how very embarrassing would that be jjose? They did alot of press for it and did interviews and did one specifically with AE, it would so not look good. And I could see the ratings dropping lower. Oh and the Y&R storyline was just complete ass and so wrong on so many levels. Especially since the original Adam left because they were suppose to make the character gay, and then didn't even do it. They made a mockery out of the whole storyline.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 9, 2011 9:31:59 GMT -5
The best thing is wait and watch, because this thread is full of drama since the begining. If they finally didn't do the gay storyline it would look very bad, because they did the promo and the interviews with the press. Of course they can do the gay storyline without Will and introducing a new character, but that will put them in the kish cathegory, doing the gay storyline with two new characters, and we know that in terms of ratings, that didn't work, on the other hand doing it with a popular character worked for ATWT. Days need viewers, they seem to invest a lot in new promos, but a gay storyline could bring new viewers to the show (specially if the writting improves). It's difficult to make a storyline more ridiculous than Y&R, but Y&R has not the ratings problems that Days has, so they better do something better.
Of course, that new could be totally false, there's a lot of speculation about Day's gay storyline from the begining, but if the intructions were to make the soap look more modern and the first step is quit of a gay storyline, that doesn't look good at all
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Post by Duskysoda on Aug 9, 2011 9:35:17 GMT -5
I think I will keep an eye on this storyline but not really focus on it anymore... if it gets good... great.. if not... no loss to me.... But it will be more proof why Days is the lowest ranked soap in the USA
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 9, 2011 10:38:06 GMT -5
The best thing is wait and watch, because this thread is full of drama since the begining. If they finally didn't do the gay storyline it would look very bad, because they did the promo and the interviews with the press. Of course they can do the gay storyline without Will and introducing a new character, but that will put them in the kish cathegory, doing the gay storyline with two new characters, and we know that in terms of ratings, that didn't work, on the other hand doing it with a popular character worked for ATWT. Days need viewers, they seem to invest a lot in new promos, but a gay storyline could bring new viewers to the show (specially if the writting improves). It's difficult to make a storyline more ridiculous than Y&R, but Y&R has not the ratings problems that Days has, so they better do something better. Of course, that new could be totally false, there's a lot of speculation about Day's gay storyline from the begining, but if the intructions were to make the soap look more modern and the first step is quit of a gay storyline, that doesn't look good at all I agree with Jose here actually, for the first time ever, but Jose has a good point. It would look bad for Days, but they deserve all the flack they're getting for dropping this storyline. It looks like they have no backbone and are just folding under pressure to all the homophobic bigots out there. It does not look good at all. I am pretty sure there were plans of making Will gay, and make him involved in a relationship with Sonny. They even said the gay storyline was still a go, although they would slow it down. And going from "slowing it down" to not doing it at all would look extremely bad, but at least the bigots would be happy. If Will doesn't end up gay, then I will stop watching Days. And I have been watching Days for 15 years. Not making Will gay will piss me off royally, and they will only make themselves look like pathetic hypocrites. I don't mind dropping Days because of their horrible treatment of Will and their blatant lies about the gay storyline. IF it does happen then I'm done with it. Then again.. this MAY just be BS. About.com isn't exactly known as a reliable source, plus, Will didn't say the gay storyline/relationship wouldn't happen, just that they are friends. And that sorta fits with the idea of slowing it down. It could also be that he wasn't allowed to say anything about the storyline, so he was just being abigous (sp?). But like I said.. I won't hesitate to quit the soap if nothing happens with Will. I'll give them some time, to the new writers' material sets in, but I will stop watching if we still have no clues by September/October. And I wil also stop watching if they make T gay, because I can't stand T, he's an idiot and annoying, I just don't like his character. I also think he would be a horrible love interest for Sonny, and not very believable at all, considering he's not Sonny's type and it seems like Sonny don't like him, plus he's a minor character. It would make more of an impact if Days did a gay storyline with Will and Sonny, considering their families.. So yeah, I totally see it as a cop out and pathetic if they don't make Will gay.
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Post by ari on Aug 9, 2011 11:31:00 GMT -5
I think it's going to happen even if there are rumors to the contrary. The only thing is, it would be much more dramatic and entertaining if it were Chad and Sonny. There would be endless craziness. Stefano would not accept it nearly as easily (if at all) as Victor did. They could have endless storylines and be involved in so much.
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Post by pru on Aug 9, 2011 11:38:23 GMT -5
I agree with jjose.
I said before I will wait and see what happens after the new writing kicks in.
And over, you need to stop jumping to conclusions like it's fact. That's why it was labeled a rumor.
Also from what I read over at SOC board, the place the rumor originated from is the Enquirer of the internet. Thus making most posters over at the SOC board skeptical that it's even true at all.
That's why some of us need to chill and stop taking everything we read as the truth.
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Post by md1347 on Aug 9, 2011 11:45:49 GMT -5
I've been saying that it won't be at least until October before anything really happens. The storyline is going to be a slow one, IMO but I think it will happen. I think it's a good thing they are working Sonny into the show first before he hooks up with Will. If going slow makes more people like Sonny and then WilSon, then that's a good thing.
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Post by pru on Aug 9, 2011 11:51:28 GMT -5
You're right md.
Because the new, new, writing kicks in sometime in September and by October we'll have a clear understanding of exactly how things are going to start to happen. So I'm just going to chill and not worry about it.
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Post by md1347 on Aug 9, 2011 12:14:41 GMT -5
You're right md. Because the new, new, writing kicks in sometime in September and by October we'll have a clear understanding of exactly how things are going to start to happen. So I'm just going to chill and not worry about it. I think Days is doing it right. It may not be to our liking but they are trying to bring along as many existing viewers, which may not be the most gay friendly bunch but I think if they do it right, it will work out for them. Luke (ATWT) came out long before Noah showed up and while there were people who protested, the Nuke storyline was a success for the show. Kish, well, the couple was great, IMO, but the surrounding storylines they were in sucked (Dorian being a lesbian to win an election). If they can combine the cuteness and longevity of Nuke and the hotness of Kish (first gay sex scene) into a storyline, then it has a potential of being great.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 9, 2011 12:41:48 GMT -5
Well, it's pretty obvious that the problems is not the pace. Yes the pace is really slow, but that helps to make Sonny relevant and a character by himself before anything happens. The problem is the constant drama that this storyline brings. They give nothing but it's always like being in the edge and the constant sensation that they will drop the storyline (till now it seems they didn't drop). We'll see what happens.
And overtherainbow, this is not the first time we agree, maybe the first time on Days storyline, but in AE people even accuse me of agree too much with you (over other questions of course)
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Post by pru on Aug 9, 2011 12:55:24 GMT -5
You're right md. Because the new, new, writing kicks in sometime in September and by October we'll have a clear understanding of exactly how things are going to start to happen. So I'm just going to chill and not worry about it. I think Days is doing it right. It may not be to our liking but they are trying to bring along as many existing viewers, which may not be the most gay friendly bunch but I think if they do it right, it will work out for them. Luke (ATWT) came out long before Noah showed up and while there were people who protested, the Nuke storyline was a success for the show. Kish, well, the couple was great, IMO, but the surrounding storylines they were in sucked (Dorian being a lesbian to win an election). If they can combine the cuteness and longevity of Nuke and the hotness of Kish (first gay sex scene) into a storyline, then it has a potential of being great. I agree it does have the potential to be great and I can't wait to see how it will all unfold.
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Post by md1347 on Aug 9, 2011 13:08:55 GMT -5
Well, it's pretty obvious that the problems is not the pace. Yes the pace is really slow, but that helps to make Sonny relevant and a character by himself before anything happens. The problem is the constant drama that this storyline brings. They give nothing but it's always like being in the edge and the constant sensation that they will drop the storyline (till now it seems they didn't drop). We'll see what happens. The "gay" storyline hasn't even begun yet. The only thing they did was bring Sonny to town. We will see some concrete evidence that Will is doubting his sexuality before we can say the storyline has begun and even then, it could be a while depending on how Will takes it. From what I hear, Will will try to fight it at first but will fail (It wouldn't be a gay storyline if it didn't fail).
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Post by pru on Aug 9, 2011 13:21:14 GMT -5
md, kind of like in most of the gay storylines we've seen.
They get an inkling and then fight it with every breath in their body and sometimes use the girls they care about along the way, till they can't hide it anymore.
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Post by md1347 on Aug 9, 2011 13:24:36 GMT -5
md, kind of like in most of the gay storylines we've seen. They get an inkling and then fight it with every breath in their body and sometimes use the girls they care about along the way, till they can't hide it anymore. It would be nice to get past this point, wouldn't it?
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Post by bsgnut on Aug 9, 2011 14:24:46 GMT -5
Well, it's pretty obvious that the problems is not the pace. Yes the pace is really slow, but that helps to make Sonny relevant and a character by himself before anything happens. The problem is the constant drama that this storyline brings. They give nothing but it's always like being in the edge and the constant sensation that they will drop the storyline (till now it seems they didn't drop). We'll see what happens. The "gay" storyline hasn't even begun yet. The only thing they did was bring Sonny to town. We will see some concrete evidence that Will is doubting his sexuality before we can say the storyline has begun and even then, it could be a while depending on how Will takes it. From what I hear, Will will try to fight it at first but will fail (It wouldn't be a gay storyline if it didn't fail). I hope this is just us being paranoid. Seems really strange for them to bring Freddie in to play a gay character and then completely backtrack, especially with all the coverage it generated in the gay and entertainment press. I'm also a little tired of these "I never knew I was gay until I met you" cliches but that seems to be the template. Guess it provides the maximum amount of drama when a supposedly straight guy realizes he's gay and all hell breaks loose. ;D I'm going to stick with this until the show confirms it's not going to happen. Partly it's because Freddie and Chandler are so gorgeous there is no way I could miss them getting together.
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Post by md1347 on Aug 9, 2011 14:31:05 GMT -5
The "gay" storyline hasn't even begun yet. The only thing they did was bring Sonny to town. We will see some concrete evidence that Will is doubting his sexuality before we can say the storyline has begun and even then, it could be a while depending on how Will takes it. From what I hear, Will will try to fight it at first but will fail (It wouldn't be a gay storyline if it didn't fail). I hope this is just us being paranoid. Seems really strange for them to bring Freddie in to play a gay character and then completely backtrack, especially with all the coverage it generated in the gay and entertainment press. I'm also a little tired of these "I never knew I was gay until I met you" cliches but that seems to be the template. Guess it provides the maximum amount of drama when a supposedly straight guy realizes he's gay and all hell breaks loose. ;D I'm going to stick with this until the show confirms it's not going to happen. Partly it's because Freddie and Chandler are so gorgeous there is no way I could miss them getting together. Freddie is playing a gay character. That we have seen on the show He just isn't in a relationship. We haven't seen Will come out or be "gay" in any way yet.
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Post by saffronphoenix on Aug 9, 2011 15:03:32 GMT -5
lol ;D All the drama over this story and nothing has even happened. All I have to say if this article is correct then TPTB really just need to make a decision and stick to it.
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Post by willwatcher on Aug 9, 2011 15:46:54 GMT -5
I agree about the lack of sexual chemistry. Watching them in the hotel room today eating pretzels in bed they seemed more like great friends who love each other, than a couple hot for each other... especially Will.
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Post by pru on Aug 9, 2011 16:06:18 GMT -5
md, kind of like in most of the gay storylines we've seen. They get an inkling and then fight it with every breath in their body and sometimes use the girls they care about along the way, till they can't hide it anymore. It would be nice to get past this point, wouldn't it? It would be extremely nice to get past that point.
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Post by Hawthorne on Aug 9, 2011 16:23:36 GMT -5
This article is from today... Hmm... which is more reliable? That DaysCafe site or About.com? Because DaysCafe all but said that Will turns out to be gay. And the About.com article prefaces everything with "may" or "could." Going by what we've seen in the story so far, starting with Will telling Gabi in the hospital that he doesn't want to hurt her, through to the way Sonny made Will realize that a straight guy should be all over a woman who's as attractive of Gabi, everything seems consistent to me with a story of Will falling for Sonny. We know that Will and Gabi are going to have sex, but we also know that this happens after Will goes to the ballgame with Sonny. I think it's possible that we will see further small cracks in Will's straightness and little clues that Will is not enjoying it with Gabi as much as he is acting like he does. DaysCafe questions whether Will actually enjoys the sex. So I think we could know soon whether or not Will has a secret. There seems to be so much on the horizon for returning characters come September that I just can't imagine the very innocent Will/Sonny storyline even getting any attention. EJ running for mayor just makes me wonder once again if Chad might be the prize. The mudslingling of someone finding out that there's a gay DiMera in the ranks. What would EJ and Stefano think? EJ would see it as damaging and embarrassing to his campaign and Stefano would see it as an embarrassment to the family dynasty. This could happen without Chad actually being gay. Maybe Chad is linked to Sonny by some picture of them partying together or something and a big controversy erupts over it. Will has to come out as Sonny's true lover to rescue Chad from the situation...
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Post by justinate on Aug 9, 2011 16:58:42 GMT -5
Well, I just read the DaysCafe recap for tomorrow's show. It seems there will only be one scene of Will & Gabi, in the early part of the episode. I will paraphrase: As they are naked in bed together, Will seeks assurance from Gabi about his lovemaking technique and demands she tell the truth. Gabi insists he was everything she desired and in turn he swears his love for her and to never hurt her. They go at it a second time.
We must watch the scene to see how it goes down and if the actors, esp. Chandler, give anything away in their acting choices.
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