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Post by Trish on Apr 7, 2011 16:35:21 GMT -5
Poor Jo. First having to deal with horses and now feet. I feel his pain.
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Post by tx3110 on Apr 7, 2011 17:00:38 GMT -5
I thought this was an excellent episode I don't get where people think it wasn't. Jo and Thore still have amazing chemistry and it looks like they have fun in their scenes..Olli sliding to the cabin...the foot in he face..etc. and I thought the love scenes were pretty damn HOT! too. And the kisses we haven't seen open mouthed kisses in a while but Hello! it looks like Christian was trying to check Olli's tonsils Loved it!!!
We got Christian (who never seems to be romantic even before Olli) taking him to the one place where it all started(Olli falling in love) and saying "the best time of my life started that night" I about cried, it was so mushy(I love mushy).
These guys belong together, we know it and the writers know it too. They may take a break from each other but I don't believe it will be long. We just gotta hold on and enjoy the ride maybe we'll get more fun episodes like today's.
The Jessica thing I think has more to do with Andi than Chrolli, especially after todays epi. Also Thanks Joanna and May we Love and Adore you more than words can say!
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Post by MercuryMay on Apr 7, 2011 17:01:34 GMT -5
You've probably seen it by now. Part 1 of today's episode has been up on Youtube for a while. I'm having problems with part 2, it will be up in about 1-2 hours, I guess. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaz5ygR7YPg
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Post by jos87 on Apr 7, 2011 17:05:38 GMT -5
I thought this was an excellent episode I don't get where people think it wasn't. Jo and Thore still have amazing chemistry and it looks like they have fun in their scenes..Olli sliding to the cabin...the foot in he face..etc. and I thought the love scenes were pretty damn HOT! too. And the kisses we haven't seen open mouthed kisses in a while but Hello! it looks like Christian was trying to check Olli's tonsils Loved it!!! We got Christian (who never seems to be romantic even before Olli) taking him to the one place where it all started(Olli falling in love) and saying "the best time of my life started that night" I about cried, it was so mushy(I love mushy). These guys belong together, we know it and the writers know it too. They may take a break from each other but I don't believe it will be long. We just gotta hold on and enjoy the ride maybe we'll get more fun episodes like today's. The Jessica thing I think has more to do with Andi than Chrolli, especially after todays epi. Also Thanks Joanna and May we Love and Adore you more than words can say! I love your positivity. I will wait the second part of the video before starting to watch this episode;thanks,as always,to Joanna and MercuryMay for their great work
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Post by evajan2 on Apr 7, 2011 17:06:08 GMT -5
I thought this was an excellent episode I don't get where people think it wasn't. Jo and Thore still have amazing chemistry and it looks like they have fun in their scenes..Olli sliding to the cabin...the foot in he face..etc. and I thought the love scenes were pretty damn HOT! too. And the kisses we haven't seen open mouthed kisses in a while but Hello! it looks like Christian was trying to check Olli's tonsils Loved it!!! We got Christian (who never seems to be romantic even before Olli) taking him to the one place where it all started(Olli falling in love) and saying "the best time of my life started that night" I about cried, it was so mushy(I love mushy). These guys belong together, we know it and the writers know it too. They may take a break from each other but I don't believe it will be long. We just gotta hold on and enjoy the ride maybe we'll get more fun episodes like today's. The Jessica thing I think has more to do with Andi than Chrolli, especially after todays epi. Also Thanks Joanna and May we Love and Adore you more than words can say! I love your comment
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Post by mitsaso on Apr 7, 2011 17:15:36 GMT -5
Okay, I'll say just one thing and then go, all the rest I could say would be obvious and shared by everyone anyway. The very continuity wanking of having Chrolli go back at THE Cabin is enough proof that the current writers CARE about Chrolli. Remember last year? They had a whole storyline about cheating with Rob and Rebecca where the writers wussed out of having them actually cheat, yet their drama and reconciliation felt hollow, forced and quickly done to "get this over with". It was BAD, because the writers were doing a story just to make a story, they were going through the motions. But this time around? In only a handful of episodes, we had good, heartfelt dialogue, actual complexity to our favorite couple's problems, and now we have Chrolli revisiting a single-episode plot from THREE YEARS AGO, which is ANCIENT HISTORY for a soap opera, and they're actually there, it's not just a flashback of memories hastily tacked on together! So it's either that this time we have good writers that care about Chrolli, or Tom Chroust is watching over the writer's shoulders and telling them to add stuff here and there to make things legit and thought-out. This makes me feel excited and safe, because now I know, despite the bad omen at the end of the episode, no matter how bad things get, even if martians attack Earth and Chrolli lose each other with Christian dissapearing in an exploding building and Olli being taken to Mars as a concubine-slave, the boys WILL love each other and they WILL be together at the end. Peace out, Chrolli-lovahs!
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Post by jos87 on Apr 7, 2011 17:21:22 GMT -5
Okay, I'll say just one thing and then go, all the rest I could say would be obvious and shared by everyone anyway. The very continuity wanking of having Chrolli go back at THE Cabin is enough proof that the current writers CARE about Chrolli. Remember last year? They had a whole storyline about cheating with Rob and Rebecca where the writers wussed out of having them actually cheat, yet their drama and reconciliation felt hollow, forced and quickly done to "get this over with". It was BAD, because the writers were doing a story just to make a story, they were going through the motions. But this time around? In only a handful of episodes, we had good, heartfelt dialogue, actual complexity to our favorite couple's problems, and now we have Chrolli revisiting a single-episode plot from THREE YEARS AGO, which is ANCIENT HISTORY for a soap opera, and they're actually there, it's not just a flashback of memories hastily tacked on together! So it's either that this time we have good writers that care about Chrolli, or Tom Chroust is watching over the writer's shoulders and telling them to add stuff here and there to make things legit and thought-out. This makes me feel excited and safe, because now I know, despite the bad omen at the end of the episode, no matter how bad things get, even if martians attack Earth and Chrolli lose each other with Christian dissapearing in an exploding building and Olli being taken to Mars as a concubine-slave, the boys WILL love each other and they WILL be together at the end. Peace out, Chrolli-lovahs! ahahaha i can't stop to laugh for the last part of your post.And i like what you wrote because it's so true.and it's a fortune that the writers would return to give importance to chrolli and like you said this is visible in the last episodes returning to the Chribecca e Rolli storylines:someone can explain to me how Olli has started to view Robert in a negative way?Because when Christian and Oliver went to New York Olli continued to talk with Rob about the party etc...When they returned to Dussendorf he change his attitude toward him like if Rob never existed but i don't understand how
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Post by tx3110 on Apr 7, 2011 17:22:20 GMT -5
Mitsaso I hope you know how much we love your humor, I love reading your comments they always make me laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2011 17:37:03 GMT -5
returning to the Chribecca e Rolli storylines:someone can explain to me how Olli has started to view Robert in a negative way?Because when Christian and Oliver went to New York Olli continued to talk with Rob about the party etc... When they returned to Dussendorf he change his attitude toward him like if Rob never existed but i don't understand howrough sex in NY
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Post by jos87 on Apr 7, 2011 17:47:34 GMT -5
returning to the Chribecca e Rolli storylines:someone can explain to me how Olli has started to view Robert in a negative way?Because when Christian and Oliver went to New York Olli continued to talk with Rob about the party etc... When they returned to Dussendorf he change his attitude toward him like if Rob never existed but i don't understand howrough sex in NY Olli changed his mind about a man that he defended for many months putting at risk his relationship only having rough sex with his boyfriend?Christian must be very very very good at bed to change his boyfriend's mind.mmm maybe the writers had to come up with something more credible.But it's the past.I'm sure that the current writers will do better (at least i hope)
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Post by pemberley187 on Apr 7, 2011 18:16:28 GMT -5
returning to the Chribecca e Rolli storylines:someone can explain to me how Olli has started to view Robert in a negative way?Because when Christian and Oliver went to New York Olli continued to talk with Rob about the party etc...When they returned to Dussendorf he change his attitude toward him like if Rob never existed but i don't understand how The good bits of the Rob storyline where Olli and Christian having issues and the few times they had Rob/Olli and Christian together the ending was very rushed I wondered if it might have had something to do with Max getting a role on another soap but that is just speculation. I think the writers are clearer about what they want VL to be as a soap and Chrolli as a couple so this also might be why the writing has improved.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2011 18:18:28 GMT -5
: Christian must be very very very good at bed to change his boyfriend's mindhave you seen his boxing scene today ? ...... This man has an infinite energy
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Post by MercuryMay on Apr 7, 2011 18:22:22 GMT -5
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Post by jos87 on Apr 7, 2011 18:36:59 GMT -5
: Christian must be very very very good at bed to change his boyfriend's mindhave you seen his boxing scene today ? ...... This man has an infinite energy no,i haven't see the episode.but i trust what you said now that mercury posted the video i will go to see the episode.Thank you Mercury
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Post by Flippityfloppityflip on Apr 7, 2011 18:47:50 GMT -5
On the other hand the love scene was nothing , and don't get me wrong, the towel falling (yes I pictured Mitsaso's face too ;D) they together in bed in their bedroom was wonderful and sweet but I felt something was missing, the contact was not the same. It seemed like the authors took all the little things we fans wanted for so long and mixed them together as a last? consolation prize. They missed only the bathtube and the wish list would have been complete! for me we must remember that VL is aired on Das Erste,that is the public television.In the public television some scenes of sex at 18 o'clock aren't showed.I haven't see today's episode and maybe in the past some Chrolli's scene were much more passionate but i think that we can be satisfied.we that live in Italy can only dream scenes like this in a soap or tv movie.And if i see in VL in general i don't remember super sex scenes. Now let me think of a few passionate encounters that Christian and Olli have had in the past There's been the unforgettable "I've fallen in love with you" 04/04/08 episode. There's been the strawberry kisses 04/06/09 episode. There's been the "little Christian" not performing well 21/09/09 episode. There's the Olli trailing his hands up Christian's naked chest 26/03/10 episode. So as we have had quite a few memorable passionate Chrolli moments in the past I was hoping for the same high standards in this episode. I think that the scene where Tristan had Dana pinned to the table and kissed her was more passionate. That aside I did appreciate the dialogue in this episode. As everyone has said the VL writers have improved somewhat. By the way talking of all the symbolism shown in the episode, what about Olli distinguishing the camp fire with his coffee at the end of the cabin scene? I thought this was one of the saddest omens.
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Post by Davian on Apr 7, 2011 18:53:02 GMT -5
This episode was amazing, an instant classic. Reminded me of why and how much I love these guys. Like Olli said, it was a reise to the vergangenheit. Thank you May and Joanna for everything.
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Post by sonia38 on Apr 7, 2011 19:00:13 GMT -5
Another great show today, they have been coming at us at lighting speed haven’t they. The line form Chris to Triistan says it all, “Because you are happy with what you have, and you don’t’ want things you can’t and Olli wants a child and it’s so hard for them because they are a gay couple. They still have tons of chemistry and I did not have to see explicit sex to enjoy the scenes, I can use my imagination. Chrolli is still magic.
Can you believe Tristan giving advise, Chris and Olli is not like Dana and Him, he should talk to Olli again, how awesome was that. I gather Chris is not superstitious because he did not bat at eye when the swans broke, but that’s him, he is oblivious to a lot of things that goes on around him.
The nerve of Andi going to Paris without telling Helena, are they not a couple? How inconsiderate was that. Jessica just needs to get a life, she slithers around the castle getting her nose in everyone’s business, Helena seriously needs to give her a beatdown.
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Post by jos87 on Apr 7, 2011 19:11:37 GMT -5
Another great show today,They still have tons of chemistry and I did not have to see explicit sex to enjoy the scenes, I can use my imagination. Chrolli is still magic. Yes,i'm with you. And if someone want to see explicit sex can rent a porn movie now i see the episode and, like a great part of you, i like it very very much.I see the old Chrolli and this is good.Some scenes leave to me a strange feeling,a combination of good and bad sensations,positivity mixed with negative about Chrolli's future. Great work from Thore,Jo and the writers Al last, I'd like to see Tristan in Chrolli's life.We can change him with Andi (I don't like him)
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Post by joanna on Apr 7, 2011 21:15:04 GMT -5
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 7, 2011 21:28:09 GMT -5
for me we must remember that VL is aired on Das Erste,that is the public television.In the public television some scenes of sex at 18 o'clock aren't showed.I haven't see today's episode and maybe in the past some Chrolli's scene were much more passionate but i think that we can be satisfied.we that live in Italy can only dream scenes like this in a soap or tv movie.And if i see in VL in general i don't remember super sex scenes. Now let me think of a few passionate encounters that Christian and Olli have had in the past There's been the unforgettable "I've fallen in love with you" 04/04/08 episode. There's been the strawberry kisses 04/06/09 episode. There's been the "little Christian" not performing well 21/09/09 episode. There's the Olli trailing his hands up Christian's naked chest 26/03/10 episode. So as we have had quite a few memorable passionate Chrolli moments in the past I was hoping for the same high standards in this episode. I think that the scene where Tristan had Dana pinned to the table and kissed her was more passionate. That aside I did appreciate the dialogue in this episode. As everyone has said the VL writers have improved somewhat. By the way talking of all the symbolism shown in the episode, what about Olli distinguishing the camp fire with his coffee at the end of the cabin scene? I thought this was one of the saddest omens. Agreed, being romantic or erotic is not about the amount of skin being shown, it's about the context, character motivation, dialog, mood etc. The scenes mentioned didn't really show any more skin either from what I remember. So compared with other classic Chrolli sex/romance scenes I thought this was nice but more on the so-so side. I wouldn't go as far as saying that Tristan/Dana was hotter (though I thought it was certainly a lot of fun with Tristan making fun of people who turn the lights off during sex). But yeah, it was good compared to what we got recently but compared to other Chrolli scenes (like Ole and the strawberries) this was so-so to me.
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Post by joanna on Apr 7, 2011 21:58:01 GMT -5
have you seen his boxing scene today ? ...... This man has an infinite energy Boxing caps ahoy!! ;D
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Post by Trish on Apr 7, 2011 22:00:14 GMT -5
have you seen his boxing scene today ? ...... This man has an infinite energy Boxing caps ahoy!! ;D I guess that's what not having sex for 3 months will do to you:)
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Post by teachgirl on Apr 7, 2011 23:22:42 GMT -5
Wow! I can't believe the maturity of the writing here -- so different from what we've been used to. I so love the comparison to the hollow Rob storyline -- so true! I have felt in the last few episodes that somebody over there (besides the actors, of course) finally CARES about these characters. The visit to the cabin confirms it, although I was really shocked and upset that the love scene did not take place there -- and yet, if I am shocked and upset and thinking about why the writers made that choice, then it means they are doing their job.
One thing that does bother/puzzle me is Christian refusing to acknowledge that it was he who pushed them into wanting a child in the first place; he had the same longing that Olli has now -- why can't he understand it?
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Post by maya on Apr 8, 2011 2:41:36 GMT -5
Okay, I'll say just one thing and then go, all the rest I could say would be obvious and shared by everyone anyway. The very continuity wanking of having Chrolli go back at THE Cabin is enough proof that the current writers CARE about Chrolli. Remember last year? They had a whole storyline about cheating with Rob and Rebecca where the writers wussed out of having them actually cheat, yet their drama and reconciliation felt hollow, forced and quickly done to "get this over with". It was BAD, because the writers were doing a story just to make a story, they were going through the motions. But this time around? In only a handful of episodes, we had good, heartfelt dialogue, actual complexity to our favorite couple's problems, and now we have Chrolli revisiting a single-episode plot from THREE YEARS AGO, which is ANCIENT HISTORY for a soap opera, and they're actually there, it's not just a flashback of memories hastily tacked on together! So it's either that this time we have good writers that care about Chrolli, or Tom Chroust is watching over the writer's shoulders and telling them to add stuff here and there to make things legit and thought-out. This makes me feel excited and safe, because now I know, despite the bad omen at the end of the episode, no matter how bad things get, even if martians attack Earth and Chrolli lose each other with Christian dissapearing in an exploding building and Olli being taken to Mars as a concubine-slave, the boys WILL love each other and they WILL be together at the end. Peace out, Chrolli-lovahs! very good points mitsaso, reading your comments make me feel a little better about Chrolli's current troubles... for now I'm happy that the writing has improved lately and this gives me the hope that our boys are in good hands Joanna and MercuryMay once again thank you for everything you are doing for us Chrolli obsessed fans
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Post by valso on Apr 8, 2011 5:36:03 GMT -5
Wow guys, just wow! I've finally had the chance to watch the episode with the subs and I'm really impressed with the writing, it doesn't seem the same show anymore... The episode was brilliant but even if they have made up, you can tell that something is just not right, you can feel it. It's like they are kidding themself because they can't handle the fact that they are more distant every day . The good thing is that even a blind man can see they are still crazy in love with each other. I hope in the end this will save their marriage.
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