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Post by jos87 on Apr 1, 2011 14:37:04 GMT -5
the title can mean as much as anything.it can refers to chrolli's relationship but maybe not or is a bit exaggerated, to scare the viewers,especially the chrolli's fans.And in reference to philip and nico can mean the "beginning of the end" of the Prince's imprisonment
welcome evajan2
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Post by maya on Apr 1, 2011 14:37:55 GMT -5
hi guys! is someone here also so excited about the recent episodes of Chrolli like me? Today's was amazing again .... it seems to me that the authors are not as hopeless as I thought ... if all episodes of the new SL will be so well written and brilliantly acted by JO and Thore , then we can really look forward to ... even though it was a sad episode today , after a long time is really a joy to watch Chrollistory ! btw ..the name of the episode is well-chosen and IMO is no need to worry Hello evajan! It's always so nice to know knew Chrolli fan from all over the world, I'm sure you will love being here! Quite excited for the latest Chrolli episodes, the guys are giving amazing performances
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Post by evajan2 on Apr 1, 2011 15:03:15 GMT -5
even if the end should really mean the end ..so who says , that can not come a new beginning ?.. (Oops, i hope it's not too spoilerish)
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 1, 2011 15:16:11 GMT -5
We really should make it a drinking game: - Take a big chug when Dana talks to somebody and only talks about her own problems ;D
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Post by valso on Apr 1, 2011 15:29:21 GMT -5
We'll be under the table faster than we can say Dyonisos! ;D
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Post by gelybi on Apr 1, 2011 16:30:40 GMT -5
even if the end should really mean the end ..so who says , that can not come a new beginning ?.. (Oops, i hope it's not too spoilerish) Don't worry, that's not spoilerish, it's just an opinion. And I completely agree with it! Welcome evajan! ------ I don't know if it's only me, but since mediathek uses flash for the videos, they make me go crazy. It freezes every 2 seconds grrr. I'm starting to hate it.
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Post by mitsaso on Apr 1, 2011 16:56:40 GMT -5
One can just tell that Tom Chroust is back at the writing room of VL! Chrolli might be going through problems, but they seem more nuanced and complex than they have ever been in the last two years! Olli understands from the start why Christian feels the way he does, and his quest today seemed to be evenly a personal and a general (about all gays being able to adopt, even if he and Christian don't) thing. And he doesn't just spring the show stuff on Christian, it's more evened out instead... ...and are you guys really worrying about the episode title??! It's a show with 3000+ episodes and after a while you run out of ideas for naming them!!! What did you want the title to be? "Christian ate some pastrami today"?
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Post by sonia38 on Apr 1, 2011 17:46:44 GMT -5
Wow, simply wow. Today's show was one of the best I have seen with Christian and Olli in a long time. They really brought their A game with this performance. Even though I did not understand a thing that was said, I felt every emotion they were both going thru. I am so along for this ride, bumpy as it might be, if I get the kind of acting I got today, all will be well.
When I say Olli/Charlie/Ludwig in that scene together, I thought to myself, those three look just like a family and I wondered if Olli is the secret love child of Charlie and Ludwig, what a story that would made. Also Olli/Helena/Ludwig standing together looked just like family. I could write that one myself.
I have had it up to here with Dana and her problems, can that girl go and find herself a female friend to confide in.
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Post by joanna on Apr 1, 2011 18:10:38 GMT -5
I don't know if it's only me, but since mediathek uses flash for the videos, they make me go crazy. It freezes every 2 seconds grrr. I'm starting to hate it. *takes a deep breath...then another one!* Ooh, spare a kind thought for the lowly capper trying to cap from (almost the whole episode from!) it!....Arghhhh....hhhhh....Caps on their way 'soon'.....(So sorry for the lateness of them, aber...) Even though I did not understand a thing that was said I did catch (I hope correctly!) all of the last three lines just before Christian has had enough and leaves in that last scene between them.... Olli: I fight for something! Christian: But I can't fight anymore!......I can't do it anymore.And he also accuses Olli of misusing Lilly for his 'political ambition'. Thought Thore was OUTSTANDING in this ep. Right, caps....
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Post by evajan2 on Apr 1, 2011 18:16:29 GMT -5
[ Thought Thore was OUTSTANDING in this ep. .. Thought Jo was OUTSTANDING in this ep too - sorry, just my opinion
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Post by joanna on Apr 1, 2011 18:17:55 GMT -5
[ Thought Thore was OUTSTANDING in this ep. .. Thought Jo was OUTSTANDING in this ep too - sorry, just my opinion Jo was fab, too, yes.
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Post by jos87 on Apr 1, 2011 18:28:21 GMT -5
i did catch (I hope correctly!) all of the last three lines just before Christian has had enough and leaves in that last scene between them.... Olli: I fight for something! Christian: But I can't fight anymore!......I can't do it anymore.And he also accuses Olli of misusing Lilly for his 'political ambition'. Thought Thore was OUTSTANDING in this ep. Right, caps.... seems to be sad this final part of the episode.I will wait to watch until Mercury will put the subtitules on the second part of the video. I hope that the next time we'll see Christian and Oliver together (before the chrolli-centric episode) will not be as if nothing had happened today
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Post by joanna on Apr 1, 2011 19:41:44 GMT -5
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Post by MercuryMay on Apr 1, 2011 19:41:52 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the vids, Joanna! AND thanks for your screencaps!
Both videos are up with subtitles now. Good night!
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Post by jos87 on Apr 1, 2011 19:50:35 GMT -5
Thank you Mercury for the videos and thanks Joanna for the screencaps! we appreciate what you do! Good night everyone!
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Post by dalphine on Apr 1, 2011 20:44:24 GMT -5
I very much enjoyed the show today. Jo and Thore was just great. MMay... thank you for your time uploading and subbing the videos, you are appreciated and Joanna you are appreciated as well.
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Post by sonia38 on Apr 1, 2011 21:49:31 GMT -5
I tell you, the subtitles made a big difference. When I heard Christian told Olli to leave him alone it just broke my Chrolli loving heart and Olli always take every thing in stride.
I'll say it again, this is one of the best episodes I've seen in a while.
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Post by Trish on Apr 1, 2011 21:59:16 GMT -5
Loved the eppy. I felt for both. I understand the Olli wants to strike while the iron is hot, so to speak, but watching Christian taking the loss of Lily so hard, i just wish he would give him a little time.
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Post by fillelina on Apr 2, 2011 2:45:25 GMT -5
Thank you MM and Joanna! I have already commented how brilliant this episode was, but I have to add; How cool was it that the whole Lahnstein clan were there only to support the Chrolli scene!! The Lahnsteins were "the decoration in the background" this time, woohoo! ;D
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Post by SF on Apr 2, 2011 3:06:37 GMT -5
i think it's interesting; 'the beginning of the end' the return to boxing, and christian's "i can't fight anymore". considering all these factors, i don't think he's just talking about the adoption issue. more their fight to create a 'normal' life together. which started at the beginning, the boxing match where christian came out to the world!
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Post by pemberley187 on Apr 2, 2011 3:19:44 GMT -5
i think it's interesting; 'the beginning of the end' the return to boxing, and christian's "i can't fight anymore". considering all these factors, i don't think he's just talking about the adoption issue. more their fight to create a 'normal' life together. which started at the beginning, the boxing match where christian came out to the world! What a great comment and I agree with you completely about Christian I am also glad this drama has come out of the babys storyline and that it wasn't just dropped. I always knew these episodes would be hard to watch but Jo and Thore at their best given such great material to work with. Also thank you to Joanna and MM for the caps and vids I know its been hard work (and for the all the other stuff you not only for us but for this Chrolli fan).
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Post by valso on Apr 2, 2011 4:30:23 GMT -5
Thank you so much Joanna for the caps and Mercury for the vids Saw it first thing this morning. Jo and Thore were really amazing yesterday. They delivered angst, frustration, and desperation. The scene at the end was hearbreaking with Olli at NL and Christian taking out his rage boxing away.
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Post by Tagro on Apr 2, 2011 4:45:56 GMT -5
I love episodes like this one a lot. Lots of emotions and amazing acting of Thore and Jo. I'm absolutely on Christian's side here. I haven't spent the last couple of years every day with Christian (well, okay, I have...) but I could read the whole "Lilly's departure is hurting me so much and I can't and don't want to think of another child (yet)"-story right on his face / in his eyes without one word being said. Why is Olli so blind? Even if he blocked out his own grief, he MUST see Christian's. It's jumping right at you. Sigh... A big thank you especially to Joanna and MM for all your hard work and to everybody else who invests time in this so we can all enjoy our hobby a lot!
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Post by maya on Apr 2, 2011 4:57:43 GMT -5
First a more shallow note, I like Christian new set in the stables and I have a premonition we will see it a lot I'm still all emotional about yesterday episode, the acting was outstanding and the script solid. Both Christian and Oliver came up with their unresolved demands but unable to break each other's wall of misery. They were more distant than ever and the scene at the end spoke for itself. thanks a lot MM and Joanna
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Post by SF on Apr 2, 2011 5:46:21 GMT -5
i think the stables set is actually the old chrolli bedroom!!
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