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Post by Ailyne on Mar 24, 2011 19:22:25 GMT -5
it is his dad....and i understand why he is defending him....he doesnt want to see his father as a heartless beast....and i actually do think Anton cares about his son but his fear of the situation is taking over his thoughts to the point where he hurt Lucas.. im not excusing him one bit but i do get where Edwin is coming from...
at the same time....Edwin loves Lucas and wants to be with him.....but he thinks that their relationship is tearing his family apart....plus add the fact that he's a teenager ...his emotions are very unstable.
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 24, 2011 9:43:50 GMT -5
And 2 months + 5 weeks since their first kiss ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 24, 2011 9:36:44 GMT -5
5 weeks already!!! yay!
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 23, 2011 22:24:25 GMT -5
i dont know how i feel about this.... :/ if it goes the direction Oliver and Kyle were going before they got removed from the show then im all for it....but if theyre going to make it like Luke and Noah than..im still all for it but not as much haha
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 23, 2011 22:21:45 GMT -5
im so darn excited i could pop!
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 23, 2011 22:20:10 GMT -5
I abhor violence... whatever form it takes... I don't need to be reminded that it exists... all one has to do is read the paper, watch the news. Too bad the writers had to revert to it to make a point (if such was the case). They've obviously never seen blood splattered on white snow... trust me... once is enough. if what they were trying to do was make a point than..i guess violence is the most impacting way to get the message across. In todays society violent images tend to be the most memorable ...when it comes to specific issues and events.... it kinda sucks that things like that actually happen everyday. It's TV and its supposed to be dramatic and full of suspense ....but sometimes things like that happen in the world...and i have personally seen them...and its scary and sad...but it motivates people to finally rise up and do something to fix it.
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 23, 2011 22:08:46 GMT -5
I hate to break it to you, but in Holland you don't go to jail for beating someone up. If Lucas decides to press charges the worst that would happen is he'll have his medical license taken until a court or something decides otherwise. Also, hate crimes do not exist here. I know you'd like to see him behind jail, but stop getting worked up over this. It's fiction. And it's not the United States. Laws are different here and not nearly as strict. You'd have to kill someone to end up in jail here. And even then you can get out in like 10 years or less. Unless when you're mentally insane. In that case, you're never getting out. Hate crimes don't just exist in the US (by the way). The UK also has hate crime statutes and it's not unreasonable to believe that a vicious assault should be punishable in some other than just making Anton say he's sorry. I didn't say Anton should be executed or did I say he should go to prison. I said Jail. From what I recall, Lucas and Sjoerd were BOTH taken to jail for a fist fight. So it's not crazy for me to think Anton should spend at least ONE FREAKING NIGHT in jail. GTST if fictional. Real world laws don't apply. I can get as mad as I want. You're not the boss of me. Explain to me how the boys who assaulted Lucas on New Years Eve were treated and how that is any different than Anton? He only turned himself in because Janine demanded that Bianca make him do so or she would do it herself. This is not a nationalistic thing. It's a human rights thing. There are obviously some laws in The Netherlands that prevent people from just running around beating the crap out of each other or Jack wouldn't have a job. You can't really be trying to convince me that someone can beat someone unconscious (and not in self defense) and not be punished for his actions? hate crime charges actually do exist in the US...it depends on what state and the wording used in the court that has the case ...they're usually called bias crimes...thanks to the Matthew Shepard Act of 2009 and only a couple liberal states have specific sections on gender identity and sexual orientation ....its by no means perfect in any way....in fact it kinda sucks....but at least we're getting somewhere ....right? :/ maybe
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 23, 2011 19:28:03 GMT -5
The only talking Anton should be doing is from behind bars. He assaulted someone and put them in the hospital. That is illegal and he needs to go to jail, have a trial and deal with the consequences. He can see a therapist in jail. Had Anton beat a stranger that way for being gay, the issue of him being in jail wouldn't even BE an issue. What Anton did is a hate crime. I don't care if he ever learns not to be a homophobe, he needs to learn he can't just beat people up because he has a feeling. Sjoerd needs to learn that there are legal consequences to this kind of behavior. Edwin needs to see exactly how very very wrong his father is without the filter of love Lucas deserves Justice. Edwin is old enough to make up his own mind about where he wants to live. He's not a child. He's about to graduate from high school. Bianca can't control her husband and Edwin should not have to live with a monster who beat his boyfriend unconscious and sent him to the hospital.\ The more I think about this the madder I get. Anton would NEVER have beaten Wiet or Rikki this way if he'd caught them doing to Edwin or Sjoerd what he caught Lucas doing. This is not about being conservative. This is about anti-gay hatred and at this point I don't care WHY Anton believes what he does, I just want him to pay for his actions. Anton is a criminal. He belongs in a cell. I couldn't agree more with your entire post, sister i agree but laws are very different going from country to country....they dont have official charges for hate crimes and since Anton was the one who turned himself in the charge isnt as serious as it couldve been .... idk....he atleast deserves a night in jail or a fine or something though!
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 23, 2011 13:22:35 GMT -5
haha.... you guys should pitch these ideas to the writers !!! we should all just start our own soap and see where that goes!!! lol
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 23, 2011 6:12:04 GMT -5
i really like Edwins new jacket ....*must go find and buy for boyfriend!* maybe he'll look half as good as Edwin and ill love him a little bit more bahaha...oh gosh As I wrote on other thread I wonder if they went shopping together last Friday (when Lucas wanted to buy a new shirt) "Must go find and buy" haha that must have been it!!! Lucas is influencing Edwins style haha....the jacket is indeed really cute!
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 22, 2011 23:34:13 GMT -5
i really like Edwins new jacket ....*must go find and buy for boyfriend!* maybe he'll look half as good as Edwin and ill love him a little bit more bahaha...oh gosh
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 22, 2011 20:12:51 GMT -5
oh my....that was beautifully acted .....but Bianca broke my heart : /
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 22, 2011 13:26:26 GMT -5
oh Edwin is gonna get mad at Lucas? oh gosh what is Lucas going to do! im actually looking forwards to it because i love the makeup scenes haha
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 21, 2011 23:21:14 GMT -5
ok. that shirt has gone through a whole lot of turmoils in the past few weeks! hahaha....im dubbing it Edwins horny shirt....since it was the one that he wore the first time he was with Lucas and the one worn with the events that have just happened.
OMG and thanx a bunch for the translations i would die without you!!!....
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 21, 2011 21:56:32 GMT -5
ah......omg
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 21, 2011 21:53:53 GMT -5
???omg .....i thought yesterdays shortie was hardcore....the actual scenes from the episode were a lot harder to watch...... im not gonna lie i was screaming at the screen for Edwin to move .....and then when he did i was was just yelling to yell....it pretty much went like this: me:*WATCH WATCH WATCH* EDWIN MOOOOOOVE!!! DO SOMETHING!! roommate: WTF WHATS WRONG! ARE YOU OK!! me:nothing go away! me: NOOOOOOOOOOOO! LUCAS DARN YOU ANTON!!! DARN YOUUUUUUU!! then i sat there hating Anton and feeling more sorry for Edwin than for Lucas for some reason..... oh gosh....my heart cant take so much awesome soapy drama!! oh who am i kiddin YES IT CAN!!! AND IT IS LOVING IT!
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 21, 2011 10:07:28 GMT -5
Awwwwww I love hospital scenes where couples say they love eachother .... DARN YOU WORK!!!!! Why must you get in my lidwin watching time!!!! Aaaaaaaaa lol can't wait!! And thnx for the recap!!!!
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 20, 2011 23:00:26 GMT -5
Lucas is a very honest and bright character for the situation and for the company which consists of a conservative father who already has problems with his son being in a relationship with Lucas....the choice of words he used might not have been what i wouldve used but Lucas has always been that way and the show has remained loyal to his personality...which i like....
i actually love the contrast between Edwin and Lucas ....Lucas is so experienced and out there while Edwin is shy and reserved (which seems to be changing with his love of Lucas haha)
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 19, 2011 23:49:47 GMT -5
that darn shirt just doesnt want to be on Edwin haha..first in the bathroom and then in Antons office...haha
im just waiting for sweet hospital scenes.....because after that i need something to warm me up inside!
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 19, 2011 0:21:34 GMT -5
I have to say seeing Lucas at the hospital he looked really cheerful like nothing major just happened.He was relaxed and joking around.I don't now if his hiding his true feelings after everyone leaves he breaksdown.Unless his trying to be strong and support Edwin.I hope we get to see Lucas really feels about this whole thing that Anton beat the shit out him. Lucas has always been a very bright character....but it would be nice to see Edwin and Lucas supporting each other after all of this....it would warm my heart a little after all the heavy
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 19, 2011 0:17:42 GMT -5
^^^ oOoOh that was interesting ....haha...i like getting background on the characters now that im watching the whole soap and not only the Edwin and Lucas parts haha
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 19, 2011 0:12:34 GMT -5
now I really hate the Lucas-Edwin-gay story in GTST; it is so very disgusting, because Lucas as an openly gay for the forth time gets the beating, and he is almost beaten to death; it is really disgusting; I had to puke when I saw him being beaten by Anton- I am never going to look at GTST again im sorry you feel that way... i think you should give it a chance...im sure the storyline will continue being as beautiful as it has been once the whole beating thing is over.... you also have to understand it is a soap...drama is part of the thing but welcome to the forum...i see you're new (or atleast only have 4 posts )
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 19, 2011 0:06:08 GMT -5
HQ75 i agree completely.... when one's emotional stage changes levels extremely quickly its because of firing neurotransmitters and hormones that are unstable. Anton was in an extreme stage of rage which in real life would mean that the brain was firing high levels of adrenalin, this causes the body to move quicker and stronger than at a neutral state...while Edwin was experiencing a fight-flight-freeze response in which strong amounts of stress causing a discharge of the sympathetic nervous system kept him from moving .... haha...so from my point of view the scene was acted very well... sorry for the whole medical spiel i cant help it..im a psychiatry student haha...and all if this drama just makes it more interesting for me
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 18, 2011 18:37:45 GMT -5
On a more amusing note..... suggested dialogue to GTST: "Hello Lucas,,, I'm your physician,,, Dr. Edwin. I've been told you have been a very naughty patient. As a result, I will have to give you a very through examination". Just an idea. ;D
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 18, 2011 18:33:14 GMT -5
oh my goodness.i almost cried with that shortie....i thought he was just gonna punch him but no he kept going and Biancas screams only made me even more scared for Lucas....intense moment.... i think Edwin was just so shocked he didnt know what in the world to do....and at the hospital he's probably just as shocked and feels completely guilty...im sure he feels horrible...i do hope they provide us with some wonderful hospital scenes that can warm my heart after this...because scenes like that remind me of all the hate there is in the world....they're doing a really good job of getting their message across these GTST writers ...they're pretty awesome poor Lucas...on the bright side boy still looks absolutely gorgeous even when he's been beat the crap out of hahaha
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