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Post by ceecee on Jul 23, 2015 23:17:10 GMT -5
I recently re-watched all of the Fervid storyline and i ended up hating David. Fer and David were never happy together, I wish Fer had married Borja. I am still not over the stupid ending. Vesper, I love you. No one's ever getting over that ending!!! BTW, this is FoQmylife from tumblr.
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Post by ceecee on Jul 22, 2015 16:49:17 GMT -5
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Post by ceecee on Jan 3, 2014 14:51:16 GMT -5
I agree. Considering how many storylines the Lomax family is involved in - other than Danny, there's Sam the supercop investigating literally every crime in the village, Tegan's baby with Fraser, and Peri who people are speculating may be Sienna's daughter Sophie - I just don't really see evidence for the assertion that they were brought in primarily for John Paul's story. And hell, even if they were, at this point does it really matter? A big shocking reveal at Danny's affair with John Paul is definitely one reason they're here, but I think they've been integrated into the village and into other storylines pretty well so far (though I personally couldn't care less about Fraser so the drama surrounding his baby with Tegan doesn't really interest me). Also, I've always believed that Hollyoaks introduces huge families with the express purpose of killing off at least one or two of them, so there's that as well Oh my god, can we please talk about how amazing Sam is? I adore her. She's fun, a bad ass, and even some what competent for a cop which I honestly thought was impossible in Hollyoaks. Also, Lizzie Roper is hilarious.
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Post by ceecee on Jan 3, 2014 7:31:48 GMT -5
Just because Ste didn't have a tortured coming out story didn't mean he had a coming out story. Not everyone has to have a tormented time coming out. And post-abused Ste was not all about Brendan. The start of Carter and Hay/the start of Stug was about Ste and Doug, Brendan was an interloper/secondary character in that story. Brendan became more of a main character later on but in the beginning, he wasn't. Also, Ste returning to crime and killing his mom was about no one else but Ste. ESPECIALLY him killing his mom. Can we please stop thinking the Lomax family exists solely for John Paul? They're they're own characters involved in multiple story lines--they're like the Roscoes, or the Savages, or even the McQueens--they're not there solely for the purpose of one character, they're there to inject fresh blood into the Hollyoaks machine. They're there because at this rate, Hollyoaks is going to run out of living residents by May. i'm not talking about a 'tortured coming out story'. I mean JP didn't have a tortured coming out story, yet he STILL had a coming out story. Ste/Doug was a red haring to make viewers think HO would do McDean retread, and then they flipped the script on everyone... and everyone went apeshiit at the thought of Ste falling for big bad Brendan instead of awesome, perfect Doug. Really clever stuff, imo. JP repressing who he was by dating Hannah for months before being caught kissing Craig, forced out of the closet, and then tortured for months by classmates including Craig is pretty much the definition of a tortured coming out story. And there were a few instances where Ste came out to people, it's just that no one made a big deal out of it. Ste was pretty comfortable with the realization so he didn't really have a "gay crisis" but sometimes that's all there is to it. Doug was his own character that was pretty amazing before Stug. The McDean retread was George and Callum and then caught everyone off guard with Ste and Doug--which I agree was clever--but again, bringing it back to the point, Doug didn't "turn gay" for the benefit of Stendan. Stug was a storyline for Doug and Ste, not Brendan. Kieron's been on the show for almost 8 years now (as of Feb) and he's been featured in several amazing story lines. He's gonna be in a whole lot more.
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Post by ceecee on Jan 3, 2014 2:36:19 GMT -5
I would like to know if there's any chance that I can watch or download Lucas and Edwin story? I didn't have the chance to watch it for well known reason (those damn copyrights ) and I'm actually looking for this storyline for over a year ^^" So will someone help me? I'm desperate to watch it I have part of it but not the whole thing. It's a hell of a lot of files though, I dunno how to get them to you.
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Post by ceecee on Jan 3, 2014 2:34:05 GMT -5
imo, peeps read too much into spoilers + occurrences on the show and see them as seeds. And then when thy don't 'blossom' peeps get their nose out of joint and cry 'bad writing!!'. Like Father Kieron - he was born to die, in a matter of speaking, yet peeps still don't get that. I don't think this is a fair statement. Ste was only supposed to be on for seven episodes but the writers and fans liked him so they kept extending him. Brendan Brady was only supposed to be around for a few weeks and the same thing happened with Emmett. Sometimes they fly by the seat of their pants and just run with things. I don't know exactly what happened with Kieron but I don't think it's fair to assume that he was "born to die." Their intention was clearly to have JP end up with Craig in the end but that doesn't mean that they knew they were going to off the poor priest. They'd just added him to the credits a few months earlier so clearly they planned on keeping him around for a bit, it just didn't happen. I don't know if James quitting screwed up their plans or if they didn't see any where for his character to go or what but I don't think they hired Jake with the intention of offing his character nine months down the line.
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Post by ceecee on Jan 3, 2014 2:22:51 GMT -5
I don't really get what you're basing this on - Ste's been at the center of a number of big storylines and carried some heavy stuff over the last few years. Even before he came out, there was his abuse of Amy, then raising the kids in Amy's absence and redeeming himself, then coming out and his first go round with Brendan + Brendan's abuse of him, then starting the business with Doug, then he and Doug falling in love, then the triangle with Brendan and Doug, the second go round with Brendan, his downward spiral after Brendan's arrest, Doug's death, connecting with his family - I agree that they've kind of neglected the Danny/Ste relationship recently, but I really disagree with the idea that the Lomax family was brought in to add to John Paul's story. Ste/Kieron Richardson has anchored a number of storylines and been at the forefront on the show for years now. post-abusive Ste was all about Brendan. I mean did Ste even have a coming out story FOR HIMSELF? LOL It was like Oh, hey... I'm gay? Cool! And then proceed with Brendan using him as a heavy-bag as he works some personal shiiit out... mess. the entire point of of Danny + his family is to create as much 'casualties' when JP/Danny's affair is exposed as possible. It was a pointless, nothing affair that HO/BK built a pretty big cast around so that when it's exposed it will have a very big impact. it had nothing to do with Ste. Yes, that they are connected to Ste roots them deeper in the village, but it's still nothing to do with Ste as far as rhyme or reason. Just because Ste didn't have a tortured coming out story didn't mean he had a coming out story. Not everyone has to have a tormented time coming out. And post-abused Ste was not all about Brendan. The start of Carter and Hay/the start of Stug was about Ste and Doug, Brendan was an interloper/secondary character in that story. Brendan became more of a main character later on but in the beginning, he wasn't. Also, Ste returning to crime and killing his mom was about no one else but Ste. ESPECIALLY him killing his mom. Can we please stop thinking the Lomax family exists solely for John Paul? They're they're own characters involved in multiple story lines--they're like the Roscoes, or the Savages, or even the McQueens--they're not there solely for the purpose of one character, they're there to inject fresh blood into the Hollyoaks machine. They're there because at this rate, Hollyoaks is going to run out of living residents by May.
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Post by ceecee on Jan 2, 2014 17:42:28 GMT -5
I'm going to guess he doesn't think it's rape because he does it with an object, like a broom, or something.
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Post by ceecee on Jan 1, 2014 17:33:11 GMT -5
From Digital Spy:
"Meanwhile, Tony makes Finn apologize for what he did to John Paul, so Finn tells Robbie that he's going to rob Attwell's to get back at Tony for humiliating him. The boys meet outside the gym wearing balaclavas and they head towards the building for the ultimate payback. Will Finn's malicious plan succeed, or will he be discovered?
Elsewhere, Fraser ensures Freddie performs yet another risky task.
Also today, love is in the air for an unsuspecting couple."
So if John Paul finds out Ste's the one who talked to Tony on his behalf, that last sentence might be about John Paul and Ste. It would make sense that John Paul would want to thank Ste.
If it is, I reaaaaally hope they just talk and maybe start a friendship...
But knowing this show, they'll probably jump into bed together because nothing says "thank you" like a rim job.
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Post by ceecee on Dec 31, 2013 16:55:45 GMT -5
Well JP/Ste fans might be in luck. Anyone notice this line in the latest spoiler article: And the fact that this happens the day after JP is raped It made me wonder if either Danny, Ste or both are involved in comforting JP after the rape and that puts a strain on their relationship again. I'm personally all for JP and Ste getting together so long as BK doesn't turn it into a creepy Father/son/JP love triangle. Sadly Hollyoaks is terrible for family members sleeping with other family members partners so I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's how things pan out. Yeah... I'm hoping it doesn't turn creepy but I'm sure it will. Either way, Ste defending JP is nice seeing as NO ONE is right now. Could this kid be more alone? I hope he and Joe develop a sweet bromance because JP alone at Christmas was total sad panda.
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Post by ceecee on Dec 31, 2013 14:59:51 GMT -5
ceecee, you are speaking my language. That's one of the things that appeals to me about the idea of JP/Ste, I could see it playing out as a slow burn relationship, which they haven't really done with any of the gay romances (or, frankly, the straight ones either, recently) since maybe the beginnings of Doug/Ste My cousin and I clocked this once. John Paul/Craig took over a year, John Paul/Kieron was something like 4-5 months (to really REALLY get together), and Ste/Doug was something like 3 months. It's pretty incredible how instant the gratification is nowadays. Everyone says they're in love, and then they're all breaking up because, and then a building blows up and half the cast is dead. Oh my god, I could have your babies. YES. The idea of Ste and John Paul, two people who have hated each other for years, essentially REALLY GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER and get over their former prejudices(see what I did there) is the shit epic romances are made of. Plus I love the idea of Ste, a guy who's overcome so much, helping someone else who's at their lowest pull themselves back up and rebuild. Oh they fell back on the closeted story lines faster than Vincent. Brendan was closeted, Doug had the hardest time coming out and wanted to make out with Ste in secret at first, George had that one guy he kissed and sort of dated long distance and then he slept with Ste, which were a nice change of pace, but none of those seem to have the same sort of relationship weight that I would've expected. Vincent (WHO IS THE WORRRRRST) is really like George's FIRST real relationship. I am SO WITH YOU on that!
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Post by ceecee on Dec 31, 2013 14:36:47 GMT -5
I not surprise the built up is bad, that nothing new for Hollyoaks. Let's not forget how bad the built up in the Esther story line was and how everyone close to Esther was dumb down, there where lots of complaints when that was going on too. However, the actual episode of her suicide attempt was well written and very powerful. I suspect the same thing will happen with this rape storyline the episodes will be well done. As for the aftermath it will suffer like every other storyline.As for James Sutton acting he's not the greatest but I think he is quite capable of pulling of what is required of him,as he have always done. Any failure of this storyline have been the writing and not the acting. Hollyoaks has turned into a soap that only seems to write storyline to build up stunts to be revealed every 6 to 8 weeks. The show turned a three year domestic violence storyline involving two gay characters into an "epic romance", so I'm not all that surprised that folks are having issues in how the male rape storyline is being set up. There's nothing "wrong" with James Sutton and his performance as JP McQueen. It's basically sour grapes, because he came back to the show and he's dealing with the same repetitive "side piece" situation that JP supposedly resolved when he left for his Sunset Ending with Craig Dean all those years ago. If he had never came back, the Sunset Ending would still be intact and something that viewers could still fantasize about as the perfect ending for McDean. Also, that it seems like it's a negative towards Ste and his chance to "shine" and get "focus on" him, without having to share it with any other gay character on the show. Oh my god, THIS. Don't get me wrong, I love Ste, but he's not the only gay in the village. WHY do people seem to forget that?
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Post by ceecee on Dec 31, 2013 14:26:50 GMT -5
I'd just be worried about James Sutton dragging Kieron down. They're just on different levels as actors. Wait... What? James Sutton's been nominated for several Best Actor awards, he's not a bad actor, he's fantastic. Let's not confuse bad writing for bad acting, James doesn't exactly have the best material to work with either. And as for the chemistry I was talking about, that has to do with the actors clearly being comfortable with each other on a level that's interesting. I'd be interested in seeing that developed. JP basically was putting Ste down, again. I want to die for Kieron if this is the level of writing he has to go on to after the masterpieces that were a lot of the Stendan stuff and the euthanasia storyline. Have you seen any of the Ste stuff BEFORE he was gay? The guy was HORRIBLE. He was a thief, he lied about his kids having cancer, he tried to black mail A PRIEST, and he beat the living shit out of Amy repeatedly. Before John Paul left Hollyoaks, Ste said some TERRIBLE things to JP and did TERRIBLE things to his friends. THAT is the Ste John Paul knows so why would John Paul be sweet to him? He doesn't know this new version of Ste we all love. And to say that it should happen because all 3 of these gay characters are regulars, so was the case with Brendan/Ste/Doug, and look at how 'great' that was. Being regulars wasn't my only reasoning why I thought they'd be interesting. They're all connected to each other independent of the romance. JP works with Danny, Danny's Ste's dad, JP and Ste are the only ones who know about Danny's secret. If there were a triangle, no matter who JP picked, Danny and Ste would HAVE to continue interacting which makes for great conflict/drama. They've already made the character that could have been all kinds of interesting and had so much depth for being Ste's mystery biological father, nothing more than a sleazeball that's all about JP's character. They robbed Ste's character of his father and made it all about JP, so I'd rather they didn't now make Ste all about JP too. Danny being a sleazeball is about Danny, not John Paul. Danny was screwing other people BEFORE John Paul, JP's just the first one he fell for. Let's not reduce Danny Lomax's character to something he's not. He's clearly interesting enough to be involved in multiple story lines and he's got an entire family to interact with, he's more than just a foil for John Paul or Ste, he's his own character. And just think about it: making Ste compete with his own father for the heart of a guy that he hates? Who's looked done on him in the past for being a scally and thinks he's better than him? How bloody unfair is that? BK may be in love with James Sutton, but he can't honestly think to get away with favoring JP that much that he'd put him in the center of such a triangle like JP's just that damn desirable. Bryan was the producer on Hollyoaks from 2006-2009, both John Paul AND Ste's first appearances on the show was back in 2006 so he knows both characters really really well. I'm pretty sure he loves both of them and IF he gave them a triangle it would be because he had faith that it would make for an interesting storyline for both characters. And if you really think that BK favors JP I just want to point out something to you, John Paul has hardly been involved of ANY notable storylines this past year. He LITERALLY has NO friends(with functioning brains) right now while Kieron's had a crazy year with loads of story lines including a jailed boyfriend, dead husband, new lame best friend, dead cancer mom, and a whole new family including a dad he almost made out with. Also, if BK really thought that little of Ste, I'm pretty sure he would've just murdered him like he did with the rest of the 2984 Hollyoaks characters he did away with this year.
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Post by ceecee on Dec 29, 2013 20:23:15 GMT -5
Hollyoaks excels in the lack of follow up, because they don't feel it's necessary or it takes away the "momentum" from jump starting the new stories for other characters. Another US based viewer that I know calls Hollyoaks, the UK version of Passions.THIS.
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Post by ceecee on Dec 29, 2013 20:20:55 GMT -5
I'm actually still angry about how they killed off Kieron. HE WAS SO AMAZING. I know what you mean about disconnected from the rest of the canvas, but I kind of liked that. He left his entire identity behind for John Paul and I think a defrocked priest who gave it all up only to be jilted would've made for an interesting storyline. I mean, he hit rock bottom when they killed him, what would he have done to claw his way back up and rebuild his life all on his own? He went from having an entire community to no one and I would've LOVED to see him redefine himself and change/grow. Plus, and this doesn't apply to just Kieron, it applies to all the new gays in Hollyoaks, but I'd love to see their newly out gay characters actually EXPLORE what it means to be a gay man rather than have them IMMEDIATELY FALL RIGHT INTO LOVE with whatever pre-existing gay character is available. Like Doug and Ste, I would've LOVED IT if Doug came out and he and Ste remained FRIENDS and the two of them went clubbing together and tried to figure it out rather than fall head over heels for each other in two months. I know this is a soap but come on, all these story lines are starting to blur together. Only the storylines featuring the gay male characters seem to be very similar during different years on the show and whomever is the Series Producer at that time.I was only talking about the story lines involving the gay characters. The straight ones have all kinds of other shit going on other than their sexuality.
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Post by ceecee on Dec 29, 2013 20:11:11 GMT -5
Am I seriously the only one who was actually liked the idea of Ste and John Paul getting together? I wasn't into it before but their recent scenes together unexpectedly changed my mind. I don't know if it's just that I hate Danny so much and hate JP/Danny so much that JP/Ste looks blissfully romantic and compelling by comparison, but I kind of like them too. Before last week I rolled my eyes at the idea of those two hooking up, but I enjoyed their conversation (I see Difficult Diva's point about their kiss after throwing punches at each other, but for whatever reason it just didn't bother me) and I really liked Monday's episode with them talking things out. And in the opening scene in which Ste snubbed JP and then ran after him to apologize, their chemistry suddenly jumped out at me. I suddenly really want more of them together. I was expecting the storyline to play out as JP being bullied and raped and Danny being there for him and eventually being forced to reveal his love or some such shit in front of the whole village somehow, but now I'm wondering if we really supposed to view Danny as the lying jerk that he is (I've been figuring that we've been watching a rerun of the JP/Craig affair and that we're meant to be rooting for JP/Danny even though Danny is about ten times more awful than Craig ever was), and wondering if it'll play out with Ste actually being the one that supports JP after the rape. I like JP and Ste as bickering enemies, but they do have some things in common, so I could see some sort of relationship - friends, friends-with-benefits, romance - working between them. I KNOW, RIGHT? Initially I was like, "eh, whatever. Of course." But then it happened and I was like, "TAKE ALL MY MONEY, I'M SOLD." And I thought the same thing too, that Danny was going to eventually have to come out and support John Paul (and honestly, that's probably what's going to happen because Kieron already said that John Paul and Ste aren't happening) but then I was like, "WHAT IF HE DOESN'T? WHAT IF JOHN PAUL IS BROKEN, ALONE, AND STE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICES!?" and immediately flipped all of the tables in my house in excitement. ALL THREE of them are full-time cast members with several reasons that they want to/have to continuously interact with/maintain a relationship with which is GREAT because there's no, SUPER CLEAR THIRD WHEEL. (ahem. Noah.) THAT'S the sort of trashy sugary soap goodness I want. BRING IT. I just think it'd make for a lot of interesting balls for them to juggle and I feel like they could make the storyline last for a good part of the year if they played it nice and slow. Plus, it's nice that John Paul and Ste are OUT. All the gay storylines in Hollyoaks (minus JP and Doug) revolve around a closeted dude and an out dude who's doing his damndest to directly/accidentally out his lover at a party/wedding/prom. Like how many more times can John Paul really be someone's "dirty little secret" before we all kill ourselves? It's 2014, can we get some story lines about OUT men making poor life decisions already? Something like: "Do I date my dad's HOT BLONDE LEFT OVERS or do convince them to join me in a threesome?"
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Post by ceecee on Dec 29, 2013 19:52:21 GMT -5
Am I seriously the only one who was actually liked the idea of Ste and John Paul getting together? I wasn't into it before but their recent scenes together unexpectedly changed my mind. I thought James and Kieron had some decent chemistry. Aside from Doug and John Paul EVERY gay relationship involving full-time cast members in Hollyoaks is always about one out character and one closeted character. I was really looking forward to a serious relationship storyline that didn't revolve around dragging someone out of the closet kicking and screaming. I would have liked the idea, but after they had JP and Ste fighting and throwing punches at each other as foreplay and then sharing a kiss, I changed my mind. If it's not a storyline based on one out character, falling in love with somebody in denial, it's about two male gay characters knocking each other about, before they snog or have sex. I really don't see why there's the need to have violence associated with showing affection when it comes to fictional gay characters. I honestly don't see their fight as foreplay. We can make crass, tasteless jokes about how JP's fist MUST'VE given Ste a boner (because this is Hollyoaks) but in all seriousness, I don't think theirs would be a story about violence/abuse. John Paul's no Brendan. I think that fight really stemmed from 5 years of hating each other. They both were feeling low, feeling like the other was at fault, and airing each others' dirty laundry in a public forum--they basically got all their angry feelings out right then and there. If they fell in love I highly doubt that they'd be beating the shit out of each other, JP's not the type to hit and Ste's already had that storyline--both as the abuser and abused. If anything I think they'd probably find some sort of shelter in each other as broken victims because this is Hollyoaks and by their logic, that probably makes the most sense. Seriously.
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Post by ceecee on Dec 27, 2013 3:16:22 GMT -5
On the one hand, I really liked Kieron, so I wouldn't have minded seeing some more fallout from or reaction to his death and the revelation about how he really died. On the other hand, because he was so disconnected from the rest of the canvas, the only people whose reactions were really relevant or important to see were John Paul, Myra, and Craig, and we saw all of their reactions. We didn't even see his funeral, so I don't really think that having other villagers talking about him would have made much sense, especially as the non-McQueen characters were, if I recall correctly, rapidly moving into other storylines like Jack/Darren going to prison. To me the bigger failure with Kieron's storyline was that he had so few connections and really seemed to have been brought in exclusively to have the affair with John Paul and then die. I liked him and enjoyed watching the John Paul/Kieron storyline play out, but his death probably would have had a greater impact if he'd had more friends and/or family. I do think, though, that the lack of reaction and fallout is pretty symptomatic of soaps in general, which are frequently all about the buildup and then flounder a bit on the reactions and skim over the followup and fallout. I'm actually still angry about how they killed off Kieron. HE WAS SO AMAZING. I know what you mean about disconnected from the rest of the canvas, but I kind of liked that. He left his entire identity behind for John Paul and I think a defrocked priest who gave it all up only to be jilted would've made for an interesting storyline. I mean, he hit rock bottom when they killed him, what would he have done to claw his way back up and rebuild his life all on his own? He went from having an entire community to no one and I would've LOVED to see him redefine himself and change/grow. Plus, and this doesn't apply to just Kieron, it applies to all the new gays in Hollyoaks, but I'd love to see their newly out gay characters actually EXPLORE what it means to be a gay man rather than have them IMMEDIATELY FALL RIGHT INTO LOVE with whatever pre-existing gay character is available. Like Doug and Ste, I would've LOVED IT if Doug came out and he and Ste remained FRIENDS and the two of them went clubbing together and tried to figure it out rather than fall head over heels for each other in two months. I know this is a soap but come on, all these story lines are starting to blur together.
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Post by ceecee on Dec 27, 2013 2:55:39 GMT -5
Am I seriously the only one who was actually liked the idea of Ste and John Paul getting together? I wasn't into it before but their recent scenes together unexpectedly changed my mind. I thought James and Kieron had some decent chemistry. Aside from Doug and John Paul EVERY gay relationship involving full-time cast members in Hollyoaks is always about one out character and one closeted character. I was really looking forward to a serious relationship storyline that didn't revolve around dragging someone out of the closet kicking and screaming.
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Post by ceecee on Sept 16, 2013 17:07:55 GMT -5
I didn't take them down because I didn't upload them there. Ooooooh. Awwww, dammit. Sad panda. Thanks again though. I guess I'm on the hunt again.
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Post by ceecee on Sept 16, 2013 14:59:27 GMT -5
I've been binging on past Lucas and Menno scenes too. They're so good together. Wish I could watch old Ludwin too though You can download my Lucas/Ludwin videos over here: www.mediafire.com/?zdnz91ihl1rb3Someone downloaded them before they got blocked. Ohhhh my god. I was literally a little over halfway done with downloading these and I went to get the rest of them today and I saw that they're all gone. Did you take them down? ;_; I'm dying. Is there anyway I can send you cookies and bribe you to send the rest to me? I'm sooo addicted now! Also, thank you so much for all the work you did with these. I did a little subtitling on season 4 and season 7 of FoQ and holy balls that was a lot of work.
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Post by ceecee on Jan 22, 2013 1:09:59 GMT -5
Hey, here's the most complete playlist out there: foqmylife.tumblr.com/PlaylistThat'll get you almost the entire Fervid storyline WITH English subs. I'm currently working on subbing season 4 eps 11 and 13 (btw, I'm foqmylife on tumblr/dailymotion and hitomikan on youtube) and then once I'm done with that I'm going to sub season 6 ep 1 so that there's a better version of it online. I'm tempted to start subbing complete episodes of Fisica o Quimica starting with season 1 but I don't know if I'll have the time for it or if I can even find people who're willing to dedicate that much time to translating stuff... Is anyone even interested in seeing the whole series anymore? I mean, Gorka's mullet was pretty bad...
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Post by ceecee on Sept 13, 2012 15:33:28 GMT -5
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