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Post by camjakefan on Aug 4, 2011 6:04:10 GMT -5
This sucks. So Roman dies after apparently giving the best performance of his life and spending a wonderful time with Deniz. I guess I can say at least he dies happy. I just know Dennis and Igor are gonna make me cry. I'm tearing up now thinking about it.
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Post by camjakefan on Aug 3, 2011 20:00:52 GMT -5
Does anyone know why RTL decided to do this again . As far as I know only DeRoAA were subbing not anyone else. Other just had favorite moments and things up. They put the RTL website info on their page encouraging people to watch online. So what's the problem.
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Post by camjakefan on Aug 3, 2011 19:35:57 GMT -5
Sometimes you have to go back and try later. It's probably some problems the website is having.
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Post by camjakefan on Aug 2, 2011 15:35:24 GMT -5
Just watched today's ep. and I feel so for Ste. He always breaks my heart. It's hard when you're disappointed by someone you love. But I wish Ste take a key piece of advice a friend gave me. " Just because you love someone doesn't mean you're supposed to be in a relationship with them.
Sistertwist and dorianlamour91 I have thoroughly enjoyed reading both your takes on this story.
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Post by camjakefan on Aug 1, 2011 17:54:45 GMT -5
Damn today was good. But is Hollyoaks rewriting history. I thought Eileen knew Brendan was gay. Brendan just can't stop himself from falling into default mode. which is denial and refusing to admit who he is. But I understand why a little with Eileen threatening to take his kids away. With Brendan being such a shady character I'm sure Eileen could take him to court for full custody and win.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 31, 2011 14:15:23 GMT -5
I didn't think, the reward was supposed to be sex. I thought the reward to fans of the couple was supposed to be the I love you and Brendan trying to be open or honest emotionally or as much as he can be.
I think the words Brendan spoke in the voice over were a big clue for the audience. That when you go back to something or someone you know what you're getting into. Ste knows what he's getting into. He was an abuser and he was abused until he chooses to stop justifying things for Brendan nothing will change. But we have heard little revelations out of Stephen that he knows what motivates Brendan but chooses to ignore. So I really can't fault Brendan that's Ste's decision. It's just like classically abusive relationships. The victim knows it's wrong but until they decide to change there is nothing that can be done.
This relationship bothers me and it doesn't because I have yet to see a soap couple in a healthy relationship. they are often emotionally and mentally abusive. I think that this is just is just the first physically abusive one we've seen and it really pushes peoples buttons. it makes no difference abuse is abuse. Some of these couples have done things to each other that I felt you couldn't come back from but they. But reality is often suspended in soap.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 30, 2011 16:46:57 GMT -5
Going back and watching again I think part of what was bothering about these two eps. yesterday was that fact that show has Ste going from Brendan to Noah from Noah back to Brendan with no breaks in between. Can Ste get a little time to himself. I don't know who it was but it was mentioned how Ste seems to be stunted a little mentally and emotionally which makes him ripe for the picking for a manipulator and abuser like Brendan. Ste is still so naive in many ways or just sort of immature and I'd like to see him grow more as a person before getting into another relationship.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 29, 2011 17:52:50 GMT -5
From the spoilers I expected something a little different when Ste and Brendan got caught by Eileen. I didn't see the pushing Ste away chasing after her. Maybe that all happens Monday.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 29, 2011 17:51:09 GMT -5
I have to say after watching the last two episodes. I don't know what to say. I'm confused and amazed. The sides of me are being pulled in different directions. I don't want Ste with Brendan, but then Brendan puts on the charm and tells him he loves him I do. I felt so bad for Ste when he was willing to go back to Brendan because he felt he had no choice and every guy he met would hurt him in some way, so he might as well stay with Brendan. I do like that Brendan didn't just leap on in that moment.
I think my jaw dropped when Brendan told Ste he loved him and begged him to give him another chance.
I think we also saw how an abuser oulls the other person back in. Maybe this time Brendan really has accepted himself and won't hurt Ste anymore. I'm glad Ste really can see Brendan and know what he's doing even though he still can't stay away from him.
I don't know but for some reason the last scene with Eileen made me laugh out loud.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 28, 2011 14:27:42 GMT -5
Camjakefan - There's always that wonderfully romantic storyline pairing of Brendan and Ste from Hollyoaks. I'm loving the new spoiler photos of Deniz, Roman and Flo. Such a nice little family, that's going to go through something horrible. When is Papa Wild coming back to town? Those photos did make me kind of happy the one of Deniz holding Roman, although I hate the reason. I think I've gone through the stages of grieving with this storyline. I've finally reached acceptance. Although I'm still a little bitter. Uh no to the Ste and Brendan thing. It's an intriguing story. It's also great to watch. The actors have great chemistry. But thinking those two could have a really healthy relationship or as healthy as a soap relationship could be no. Although would it be one of my wishes yeah. i have a thing for the tortured, self-hating characters. I want to think that everyone can change given the right reason.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 28, 2011 0:00:53 GMT -5
Brendan, Brendan, Brendan. My hate for Rae is still there, I have no rational for it but it's there. Noah you are big disappointment. Goodness you guys keep falling for Brendan's manipulations and I don't know why. I'm sorry but I just don't buy Ste moving away from his kids to be with Noah.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 25, 2011 20:13:01 GMT -5
I'm so excited finally some kind of action. I was getting bored.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 23, 2011 6:10:52 GMT -5
I finally made myself sit down and watch the show again and caught up with about two weeks worth of shows. I know there are things missed when just watching clips. Now I see how they are gonna set up this whole Roman is dying has a fatal tumor thing. I just feel so bad that all my favorite couples are being destroyed. They're gonna kill off Roman but thank God they'll give him a moment of happiness before he dies with Dennis.
These gay storyline writers suck at the moment. Fer's dead. Killing Jackson off was putting us and them out their misery. Chrolli is through. I feel like the only couple with any hope on this board is Ludwin but who knows that could be blown all the hell the new season.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 21, 2011 6:11:06 GMT -5
Thanks Pedris for the spoilers and the updates on DG's status.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 19, 2011 15:50:01 GMT -5
I was just on the wikipedia page for awz and last I noticed the by dennis grabosch's name it had his doration on the show. It said 2006-2011, now today it says 2006-, maybe it's nothing but maybe he signed an extended contract? any thoughts...... You know it's hard to trust wikipedia. They probably revised the time line since we still don't know for sure if D.G. is going but the storyline sure seems to lead to that. We get another gay couple with a tragic ending. They declare their undying love and we are left in tears. Although it would seem he did sign an extended contract maybe a couple of months because I believe his contract was up in May or June. But the writers probably needed time to write Roman out of the show.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 10, 2011 19:51:04 GMT -5
Quick question Mark. Although they are biologically cousins Stefano and Nick see each other as brothers right? The chart also shows Ludo has a brother is that character dead or was he ever shown and the child that he has Kimberly.
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 7, 2011 13:46:40 GMT -5
"It looks like we do get a duet or we at least get to hear Ferry sing. Is that Janine or Maxime running infront of the gun?
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Post by camjakefan on Jul 6, 2011 16:29:42 GMT -5
Dan is a complete asshole, playing around with people's lives.
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Post by camjakefan on Jun 30, 2011 12:21:38 GMT -5
Wow. I've NEVER been so on the money about a spoiler before. We both called it last week. I just could feel it in my bones, So I guess Roman will get to die in Deniz's arms where they will declare their undying love to each other.
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Post by camjakefan on Jun 22, 2011 15:19:58 GMT -5
are the spoilers a joke? Roman back on the ice. I'm with Difficult Diva maybe there will be an illness maybe a brain tumor? Maybe they'll kill Roman off the show who knows.
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Post by camjakefan on Jun 21, 2011 16:40:21 GMT -5
AWZ-Deniz and Roman ep. 1193.Thanks DeRoAholicsAnonymous Why have they made Deniz such a pathetic loser?!?! I can't stand it. They are doing the same thing to Deniz that they did to Jenny. I mean how low can you take a person. After a while I was glad when they killed the character off her made her disappear or whatever. It was a relief.
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Post by camjakefan on Jun 21, 2011 16:37:26 GMT -5
Please Telll me Sjors has woken up and realized her sister is nuts. Maybe now she'll stop trying to guilt trip Noud and Nina into inviting her to the party. I think I understood Wiet saying Noud was in love with her but Sjors trying to make her understand he loves and is marrying Nina. I loved the look of shock on her face when Wiet realized Nina was still alive.
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Post by camjakefan on Jun 21, 2011 15:14:45 GMT -5
At least it looks like Nina didn't go wacky with her wedding dress. Because for me I question her clothing styles, I guess she's a risk taker being a designer. But sometimes I think I wouldn't be caught wearing that.
Loved Ferry's bitchslap. Also I just find Joep very handsome.
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Post by camjakefan on Jun 20, 2011 7:45:28 GMT -5
Cheerios, your grasp of the narrative always amazes me. You always remember contextual details that escape me. In this case Rae's the miscarriage being contemporaneous with Noah's pursuit of Stephen. I appreciate you pointing that out. It seems the general consensus on this particular forum is that Stephen should move on from Brendan and never look back. Is that how most of you see it? Does anyone feel that Brendan is redeemable, or even worth redeeming? It seems to me that the followers of the storyline fall into three camps: Those that care most for Ste's welfare, those that care most for Brendan's welfare and those that care most for the relationship perhaps even at the cost of either or both of the characters. Does that seem about right? Assuming basic agreement, it seems to me that most here are in Stephen's camp, wanting his well being first and foremost, and, while some still enjoy Brendan's antics, most are becoming slightly resentful because they feel Ste is being left behind storywise and POV-wise. Is that in the ballpark? Sistertwist, I'm glad to help. I think your right on the groups of people who are watching this story. Though I think I might be in a fourth group. One that wants the story to be balance between the boys. And yes a part of me is a shipper for them, hoping they can work it out and they do get together. Though I know that is probably a slim chance. I'm curious where do you stand on all this? I know you didn't aim this question at just me. But yes I think Brendan can be redeemed and is worth redeeming. Every soul is worth redeeming. And yes I think Brendan does have a soul under all those demons, issues, and darkness that surround him. I think what makes him human is Cheryl, Ste, and his boys. And yes I do think he does truly love Ste and it's not just wanting to control him. I think it's half an abusers kind of love and the other half is real genuine love. The problem is knowing which one is going to win. I think Emmett is right when he said in an interview that it is both a love story and an abuse story and in an another interview said that Brendan and Ste were addicted to each other. That at the moment these two are entwined with each other and I don't see them being able to let go of each other any time soon. There is a cosmic pull that keeps them gravitated towards each other. I just don't want Ste sacrificed for the sake of Brendan or Brendan sacrificed for the sake of Ste. Or either of them sacrificed for the relationship to appease viewers. Yes I would hope that they tell the domestic violence correctly and how one come back to the light from that. But I would also want the story between them to be a great story at the heart. I think redeeming Brendan depends on where the show wants to take the character and how long Emmett will stay with the show. I do think with such a powerful love for Brendan's character from the viewers I could see the show taking him on a redeeming journey like they did with Ste. Though I do see Brendan keeping his bad boy vibe and staying one of the village villains along with Warren. If they do get together, I know they definitely won't be a sunset ending like McDean. But I could see Ste being like Brendan's partner, like a mob boss wife if that makes any sense. Such as people who need Brendan's help on something, but don't know how to approach him would go to Ste to mediate for them. And I could see Ste getting Brendan to do good things for the village for his image and for his soul. Though Brendan's enemies would definitely know to use Ste as Brendan's weakness. I can see Brendan destroying anyone who tried to hurt Ste. It really is up and the air where this story is going. Though it is quite clear that with Emmett and Kieron and their chemistry it will be interesting to watch. Cheerios, I love to read your comments and analysis on this couple and their relationship. I'm with you in that fourth group. I don't think anyone can be absolute with this couple or their story. I've always been able to see both sides and enjoy characters but not everything they do. I'd love to see the show redeem Brendan too. They did with Ste who was a character I hated. If a show employs good writers they have the ability to do this. I've watched soaps for years and have hated characters and not want to be with others. But the writers take us on a journey of their growth and development and made me love them. So it can be done. I'd like to see Ste and Brendan as real partners buty Brendan keep his edge.
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Post by camjakefan on Jun 18, 2011 12:42:07 GMT -5
Wiet has really lost it if she believes her father's spirit told her to kill Nina. Sjors and Jack really need to pay this girl some attention.
As for Nina I gave her a rough time during the couples trip because I was giving Wiet the benefit of the doubt. But I don't blame her now. Nina has dealt with enough unstable people in her life to know crazy when she sees it. She's been locked up in a mental institution and has a crazy brother so she knows.
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