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Post by cbuholzer on Jun 2, 2012 12:14:31 GMT -5
Exactly! Plus, it is refreshing to see a gay kid be so nonchalant about all the bullying, at least up to this point.
I actually really like the Cindy storyline, it is different and Cindy is so nice you can't hate her!
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Post by cbuholzer on Jun 2, 2012 12:02:21 GMT -5
He definitely does! This is turning out to be one of my favorite storylines (Along with Måne, Stug, and hopefully WilSon again soon). There may be some missing parts and it may be a slow story but it doesn't seem cliché at all. I know if you search Lari and Elias on youtube there are some fun fanvids already made
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Post by cbuholzer on Jun 2, 2012 11:48:41 GMT -5
There is a clip on youtube! I don't know if you would consider it a spoiler or not since it technically already happened so I'll just post the link... www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCGvB-sLsGY
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Post by cbuholzer on Jun 2, 2012 2:02:22 GMT -5
I did a little searching and found exciting news! Highlight to read:
Apparently, in an episode that aired May 15 (so not nearly close to being subbed yet I believe) Lari (the bully) kissed Elias!
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Post by cbuholzer on Feb 29, 2012 17:26:33 GMT -5
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Post by cbuholzer on Jul 21, 2011 23:36:54 GMT -5
This gives me some hope! I am pretty sure that the new writers will give him screen time (along with other teens!) And funny, I didn't know that he was from ashtabula! That is like 15 minutes away from me...and it is truly country living. Not much going on there...at all!
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Post by cbuholzer on Mar 19, 2011 22:45:44 GMT -5
Hi I am new here and was wondering if anyone knows where I can watch or download the movie Plan B. hi! it is on youtube. ulsanboy09's channel
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Post by cbuholzer on Feb 27, 2011 19:36:04 GMT -5
I think that is a good idea! I may love that idea because I am such a neat freak and separate threads would make it much more organized I should probably make a thread for spoilers and spoiler discussion too, but I think HQ75 or GayTime or one of the other mods usually make those, and make them sticky too.. so I'll just wait and see ETA: Should we just have this one thread for all the storylines, or should we have one for Adam and one more for all other storylines? I don't know, I'm so confused, lol.. I mean, we could just talk about it in the "general discussion thread", but I guess that wouldn't be so much fun for people only watching for Ziley? Yeah, I think one for Adam and then one for all the others would be best. Ziley and Adam are the like main storylines that I think people would be interested in (or are interested in). Also, then it just keeps the this thread pretty organized about Ziley and the other pretty organized about Adam. People who are only interested in one then don't have to fish around for news specific to their favourite story.
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Post by cbuholzer on Feb 27, 2011 15:48:42 GMT -5
I'm glad to see Degrassi got its own space here on GoDT! Should I make a new thread for the Adam storyline, and maybe a thread for all the other storylines on Degrassi? And I guess the actors, Agiris Karras (Riley) and Shannon Kook-Chun (Zane) deserve their own threads as well? I think that is a good idea! I may love that idea because I am such a neat freak and separate threads would make it much more organized
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Post by cbuholzer on Feb 23, 2011 22:28:22 GMT -5
Hi Everyone! I have posted on her a few times in the past (like a few months ago I believe) and I am not sure I ever formally introduced myself! I am Chloe *shakes hands with all of you* Well, with that over with haha. I absolutely cannot wait from tomorrow's episode. The shortie looks absolutely phenomenal and I can't wait to see the amazing afterglow Also, I am looking forward to see how the family reacts to Edwin in the coming weeks...mainly Bianca (surprising). Sjoerd will also be interesting to see though. Anton, we all suspect his reaction will be bad so I don't look forward to it at all (I do look forward to how Edwin defends himself though). We all know that Bianca will be supportive but I would LOVE to see/hear what she actually says. I just find the people who accept it to be the ones I look forward to. I also would like to see how Janine and Nina react to the relationship! Both of them, especially Janine, have heard how much Lucas is in love with Edwin and all so I just want to know their reaction (especially since Lucas has not had a real boyfriend yet). I am still all giddy from the past few episodes (that I have rewatched like 100 times!) and have actually put off much of the work I should be doing for school :/ Tonight's love scene was pretty reminiscent of Chrolli (the actual first time) but one thousand times better. I saw real passion and just adorableness in the smiles One last thing though: I love how real the kisses between Lucas and Edwin are. Raynor and Ferry are doing a phenomenal job portraying young love and passion. I find the kisses between these two characters to be some of the best on-screen kisses for a gay couple (where at least one of the two is not attracted to men in real life).
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Post by cbuholzer on Feb 1, 2011 14:54:03 GMT -5
One thing came to mind after watching the episode. Lucas said he loves blue eyes and brown hair, and I thought he was flirting, ergo referring to Edwin's facial features. But doesn't he have dark eyes, or is it just me blind as a mole? I thought the same thing at first, so I looked back in the threads to find the "interview/biography" of Raynor: thank you veanar for this post forever ago haha.Name: Raynor Joshua Arkenbout Date of Birth: May 28 1989 Place of Birth: Amsterdam, Height: 1,96 m/ 6,5 inches Weight: 89 KG/ 196 lbs Hair colour: dark blonde Eye colour: brownin a relationship: no Motto: Nothing ventured, nothing gained
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Post by cbuholzer on Feb 1, 2011 0:14:33 GMT -5
I, personally, have had no issues with figuring out Edwin. His actions are not consistent;however, I think that puts the viewer into a further realization of how uncertain and how uncomfortable he is with his sexuality. I viewed the episode of the 31st without subtitles (will probably do the same with today's episode) and found the body language of the two boys, especially Edwin, very telling. I have a slight understanding of the Dutch language, I am only a beginner in learning, but I could interpret how Edwin was reacting, from his words, to the situation, which was in a somewhat surprising manner.
With that said, I find the moped scene between Edwin and Lucas so adorable and amazing that it is almost unreal (even for the soap world.) I, at first, thought maybe it was a day dream but quickly ruled that out.
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Post by cbuholzer on Jan 12, 2011 23:18:42 GMT -5
I have to definitely agree with Zathras; however, I am not entirely sure it will take 6 months for them to get together-I feel that it may take 3 or 4.
I very well could be wrong though and that is perfectly acceptable. I feel like I am getting to know the characters all a little more throughout this storyline. We have definitely found Lucas' weakness, Edwin's weakness, and I am starting to become more fond of Wiets character. I think people need to keep in mind that she is a 16 year old girl and most 16 year old girls act very irrationally. Take it from me, I am currently a 17 year old girl and can definitely vouch that I am still irrational in life but less than most girls my age. Edwin and Wiet are pretty realistic I believe...they are young and still finding themselves and what they want in life.
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Post by cbuholzer on Jan 12, 2011 20:22:28 GMT -5
@ HQ75thank you so much for that, as margie said bravo! I am getting somewhat annoyed at people's other perspectives but then realize that everyone can have their own opinion and they do have legitimate evidence to back up their arguments. Also, I realize some people are just so involved and into this storyline that they see the actions Edwin, Lucas, and Wiet make in a different way. I am very invested in this storyline but see it differently! It is great to see people so into the Lucas/Edwin story though Whether you are happy, indifferent, disappointed, or angry at the way the storyline is most of us still seem to be sticking with it.
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Post by cbuholzer on Jan 12, 2011 16:50:16 GMT -5
I’ve been reading peoples comments about Wiet being a slut, how much they hate Edwin, how Lucas is pathetic and a LOT more. And everyone has the right to express their opinion, of course. I don’t know what I myself think of all this. On one side, I’m impatient and want Edwin and Wiet to break up, so Edwin can be together with Lucas. On the other side, I’m enjoying the storyline. Well, enjoying is maybe to exaggerate, just a bit But I like the storyline. And that’s inclusive all the clichés, turns and twists. I just watched yesterday’s episode. Thanks for uploading, Mark So, my thoughts about the episode: Wow, Edwin’s face, when Wiet said “Lucas” in the beginning. And he looked completely lost through the entire conversation between Wiet and Lucas. Whoever Jeroen was and whatever he really meant to Edwin (Was he just a friend?), Edwin really cared for this guy. The way he talked about him had me smiling. Hmm…there was something about the way he said “that’s not it”, when Wiet said “Sorry, you obviously have Jeroen on your mind now”. For some reason I really can’t explain, I just get the feeling that Edwin said “I just never been to bed with anyone before” because he hadn’t got anything else to say. What I mean is that he was very quick to say “that’s not it” and I don’t think he actually meant to say that. It’s really hard to explain (and even harder in a foreign language), but I think that he don’t want Wiet to think that he thinks about Jeroen. Again, I can’t really explain it, but you get very very sensitive to homosexual comments (or comments which can be understood that way) when you know you’re bi-sexual/gay and afraid other will find out. Well, that’s how it was for me, when I was in the process of collecting the courage to tell my friends that I’m bi-sexual. I’m not saying that it’s the same thing with Edwin, I just got the feeling that it is Oh, and I don’t doubt that Edwin really hadn’t been in bed with anyone before Wiet. Maybe fooled around with someone before? Hmm…naa, probably not The sex scene. Or actually, the foreplay and the aftermath, but still For some weird reason I interpreters Edwin’s smile and happiness as “I had sex with a girl! Yes, I’m straight!” I can’t really explain why. It’s just the feeling I get everytime I see that scene (and I’ve seen it four times Oh boy! Lucas’ expression when he saw Edwin and Wiet kissing in the club and the way it transformed from “You have got to be kidding me” into “So nice to see you here together”! It was priceless! Wow, I really take my hat off for Lucas (Don’t know if you have this expression in English, but it means I’m impressed with Lucas and the way he acted like nothing was wrong. And his “Well, charmer… Will you take care of my friend?”, IMO, showed that he care for Wiet as his friend. The way Edwin looked at his shoulder after Lucas touched him, just bug me. It’s like he felt burned or something. Again I get the feeling that Edwin is afraid that everyone now can see that he’s gay/bi/whatever. Ouch! Not funny to be Amber or the other girl Lucas ditched! He acted like a spoiled brat, but if I’m honest, I think I would probably be acting the exact same way if I was in Lucas’ shoes Edwin in the living room with his guitar. Wow, that was a dark and depressing scene. And the music was dark and depressing too. Again Edwin expresses his feelings through music. When Lucas said “did you enjoy it in bed with Wiet”, I got huge guilt vibes from Edwin, along with sadness! I think that Edwin actually believed that he is now straight after having sex with Wiet. And then Lucas comes along and starts telling the truth, and Edwin little Yes-I’m-straight!-bubble busts. He tries stopping it with his “Lucas…” and “please, go away!”, but Lucas won’t (just like the truth won’t either). And then Lucas kisses him. For a split-second I think he enjoys it (his jaw moves like he is kissing back), but then reality (well, Edwin’s twisted version of reality) kicks in. I think that before Lucas kisses him, Edwin is being himself (just listening and saying nothing, just like he has done before, when Lucas has “accused” him of being gay). But when Lucas kisses him, I think something inside him just clicks. He has tried protesting, he has tried saying nothing, but nothing helps. IMO he reacts like a scared animal caught in a corner: he lashes out. The episode ends without us seeing Edwin’s face or reaction. I don’t know what will happen next. I think Edwin will start apologizing, but Lucas won’t hear it and will leave. Or Lucas will start “accusing” again and Edwin will slam the door in his face. I just saw the new shortie 13 and Lucas once again can not let Edwin alone!!!... he is obsessed. Well, I guess it won’t be Edwin starting to apologize and Lucas leaving not wanting to hear it then I just want to say that you completely summed up everything i was thinking while watching yesterdays episode...there are just subtle things that I interpret in ways different than the majority of people here (I think).
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Post by cbuholzer on Jan 11, 2011 21:40:22 GMT -5
We all know about the "Super Bowl" ep on Feb 6th & the Valentine's ep "Silly Love Songs" on Feb 8th, so here are the names and dates for the next two: Episode 2x13 - "Comeback" Air Date: Feb 15 Episode 2x13 - "Come Out Wherever You Are" Air Date: Feb 22 I wonder if the "Come Out.." is for Karofsky. I read an article (I believe one that was linked above) and it seems as though that episode is somewhat centered around Karofsky...but I am not 100% sure.
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Post by cbuholzer on Jan 11, 2011 21:13:01 GMT -5
Hi, I am semi-new. I have posted a few times some little things but not much. I hope to be more active in this thread (among others). I'm not having a problem with this storyline. It looks like I'm in the minority here on this board. I am definitely with you in the minority! Yeah, it does get a little upsetting this being a similar storyline to the other shows have when it comes to their gay characters but like someone else (can't remember who) said GTST is not only watched by us-the majority of watchers are not obsessed with gay storylines and watch multiple storlines-many are just regular people! I can name quite a few of my family members in the netherlands that watch GTST! (one of them actually met ferry!) Actually, most of my female family members there watch this! If certain actions that edwin does (like smiling when Bianca says not to use that language and all in the house) were not apparent then maybe I would give up quite a bit of hope in this storyline; however, there are still subtle hints that he is gay (or at least bi). The show is obviously doing it's job, at least for me, because as much as I dislike Edwin treating Lucas like crap I still find myself waiting for Mark to upload the episodes with subtitles (sometimes I don't even wait and watch it on the website since I have a basic knowledge of the Dutch language). I enjoy seeing how this is all going to unfold and I have not had that with every gay storyline I have seen. I got sick of Deniz treating Roman like crap and stopped watching until I was certain they would be together soon. Edwin and Lucas though will definitely keep me watching because I love how we are seeing more of Edwin's personality now (he actually is now more human-he was way to perfect before).
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Post by cbuholzer on Dec 30, 2010 23:19:55 GMT -5
When Edwin says "I don't regret it" to Wiet is that the same thing Lucas said to Edwin after their kiss? i rewatched the whole edwin/lucas story today (well thats not much but ah well) and i noticed a few similarities between the lucas/edwin kiss and wiet/edwin kiss. i have no idea what it means, if anything, but as a giddy fangirl i will squeel and pretend that it means something : D
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Post by cbuholzer on Dec 29, 2010 0:26:14 GMT -5
Finally saw the shortie and the other spoilers. Even though will find out the context of the scenes soon, but call me crazy or in denial, but I'm not fully convinced Weit will be a beard. The way Lucas is talking to his mom, sounds like something happened to make Lucas feel Edwin is closer to coming out. When Weit gives Edwin the tickets, she said he can take whoever he wants & he kisses her on the cheeks to thank her, he then pauses & part of him probably wants to take Lucas, but other is afraid/confused by his feelings so kisses Weit to see if/hoping he feels something for her. I'm betting he doesn't & decides not to take Weit, which is probably the disappointment on Jan 5th. I'd think he was going to use Weit as a beard, he already would be by now. that is literally EXACTLY what i was thinking...i couldn't figure out how to phrase it completely is all! ;D
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Post by cbuholzer on Dec 21, 2010 21:41:58 GMT -5
this was harder than i thought!
Best Storyline: The Roman/Deniz/Marc love triangle-intriguing and upsetting at the same time and loved when they made up!
Worst Storyline: Fisica O Quimica in general this season.
Best Actor: Thore Scholermann? Erg, this is a hard one!
Best Actress: Pauline Quirkie
Actor or Actress Most In Need Of Acting Lessons: Jasmin Lord
Best Supporting Character: Janine (GTST)
Worst Supporting Character: Sioned
Best Friendship: Aaron and Paddy
Worst Friendship: Katja and Deniz/Roman
Biggest Missed Opportunity: Scott and Iolo becoming a couple.
Best Chemistry: Chrolli or DeRo
Biggest WTF? Moment: Scotty cheating on Kevin!
Biggest Waste Of Time (character or storyline): Florian thinking he was gay so the Florian/Frank storyline.
Best Song Moment: Baby, Its Cold Outside-Glee
Worst Song Use: ____________
Best Storyline Twist: Edwin coming to Meerdijk!
Worst Storyline Twist: Jackson getting paralyzed-made me lose some interest in Emmerdale.
Best New Character: Edwin! or Ian!
Worst New Character: I can't think of one!
Best Line/Dialogue: Olli proposing to Christian!
Worst Line/Dialogue: Brendan threatening Ste whenever!
Most Shocking Moment: Karofsky kissing Kurt in Glee! or Riley buying Zane in the auction.
Least Shocking Moment: Tobias coming back in Spangas
Favorite Kiss: So many to choose from! Teddy & Ian's kisses on the stairs I guess.
Most Enjoyable Show: Goede Tijden Slechte Tijden
Most Disappointing Show: Fisica O Quimica
What do you hope for in 2011 for your favorite pairs (no spoilers):
FOQ- That David and Fer stay together and face some problems but deal with them.
VL-An interesting storyline for Chrolli-this baby storyline so far is boring. Spice it up!
AWZ-A storyline for Roman and Deniz! They have none right now, they are just supporting characters.
Emmerdale-Jackson miraculously healing-this paralysis is not entertaining.
Hollyoaks-Brendan stopping his abuse on Ste!
PYC-Scott getting jealous about Iolo's new man.
GTST-Edwin and Lucas getting together-but with a good coming out for Edwin.
Spangas-Delano and Flip start dating or Eman and Rudolf start dating or Flip and Rudolf start dating. Any of those pairings will be nice but I think Delano and Flip are my favourite.
Brothers and Sisters-Kevin and Scotty's baby storyline...or just something interesting for them again!
Glee-Kurt and Blaine trying to date but end up finding out they are better as friends are Karofsky coming out of the closet. Oh, and having a more character-driven season.
Degrassi-More airtime for Riley and Zane!
90210-Teddy coming out early on and getting a steady boyfriend.
Best Friends-Flip getting his gay storyline but a different one than in Spangas
I think that is all...
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Post by cbuholzer on Mar 15, 2010 20:29:11 GMT -5
whoa, Kish is cancelled? When did this happen? I too don't see why it's so wrong that Lucas didn't tell him he was in love with him. I mean if he had been sabotaging Nouds chances with people or trying to trick Noud into being with him or something than yeah I'd understand. But Lucas was a friend first . The whole love thing is something personal no? yeah, they are supposed to be off the show somewhere around april...apparently viewers, other than us, are very comfortable with the gay storyline or something. but this is not the thread to discuss kish or sadness so let's focus on the happiness of LOUD! noud looked sad in today's episode, and i think he may slowly be coming around. let's get them together already, okay? or at least some contact between the boys (:
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Post by cbuholzer on Mar 14, 2010 13:46:16 GMT -5
I don't know...something about this whole storyline makes me think more about Chrolli's story than the other gay storylines. Maybe I'm just delusional because I want them to turn out like Chrolli. With DeRo it was a little more of Deniz coming out after the kiss. With Cenny, Lenny's anger problems and such played a big factor. With John Paul/Craig, Craig got jealous of Spike.
With Chrolli it was Olli kissing Christian that confused Christian and then the admitting he(Olli) was in love with him... It seems like the hospital kiss and the admitting of Lucas being in love with Noud, will confuse Noud more than anything. Not to mention that both were good friends before all of this (and Lucas and Noud are closer friends!) Hmm...I think I just want this storyline to go as fast as Chrolli's, maybe a little slower, but definitely not as long and hard to watch as Cenny's!
That was my rambling...and Loud will happen, I will not let the writers not let it happen.
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Post by cbuholzer on Mar 13, 2010 22:40:20 GMT -5
Yeah, seriously! What's the deal with Noud's hair? I can only think that they made it that way to reflect how he's feeling. And if Noud is not crying in the shortie, he's damn close. (sniffle, sniffle) I agree he is missing his best friend and possibly the guy that he loves. I hope Noud being angry with Lucas doesn't last too long, Lucas is going to be feeling so bad and honestly I don't think that he did anything wrong with not telling Noud about how he felt/feels. Sure he should have said something but when he tried Noud stopped that conversation and Lucas respected that. I have to agree, when i watched the shortie i saw more of a sniffle, but that still might mean Noud is kind of upset about him "ending" his friendship with Lucas. It seems like Laura kind of made him realize it was wrong. And oh my! Yeah Noud's hair is so messy, and honestly he looks very tired and just emotionally drained and all...I mean it may partially have to do with the whole being stabbed multiple times and someone wanted to kill you, but still I think Lucas has a little to do with it I hope that Loud happens like soonish! I mean with Chrolli having hard times, Lenny going to jail, Nuke done for now kind of, Roman's ex coming back, and Kish getting cancelled, I am out of my fix of soap-opera happiness, I mean I still have Aaron's story, but that is boringish!
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