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Post by md1347 on Aug 2, 2013 18:20:16 GMT -5
His insecurity come back in tomorrow's episode, again. And again: Chandler: Most of the drama and conflict stems from Will misunderstanding situations and being insecure. So let me get this straight! He is insecure no matter what Sonny say or do. Yes, according to the dumb writers. People should go back and watch some old Will episodes before Chandler. It's like day and night.
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Post by md1347 on Aug 2, 2013 18:18:07 GMT -5
I agree with you...the shooting is getting a lot more mileage than necessary. But I just can't think of any other reason Will would leave Salem unless it's Gabi who goes to prison for her shenanigan's of last August and Will moves to where ever she would be incarcerated for the sake of AG. Which I hope not. If Will went to be near Gabi, then Sonny would have gone with him, most likely. If Sonny is staying in town, then Will is in jail or they have broken up, IMO.
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Post by md1347 on Jul 30, 2013 18:22:48 GMT -5
At this point, after seeing some spoilers, I'm not sure I care. To go down that road again. Just end it. It's sad to say. Such potential and they just crapped on their actors and fans.
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Post by md1347 on Mar 4, 2013 19:39:21 GMT -5
Isn't Nick still on probation? Almost everyone in that room could be sent to jail... LOL ...
I'm only watching the Wilson scenes. The rest of the show (and some of the Wilson scenes) is just too bad to watch.
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Post by md1347 on Jan 16, 2013 5:48:58 GMT -5
No rape stories please. They always are terrible and days has gone there already so many times.
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Post by md1347 on Jan 15, 2013 19:53:41 GMT -5
Sonny not being mad at Will... yeah, that would make a great story.
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Post by md1347 on Jan 8, 2013 19:46:21 GMT -5
Why don't they let Will date the coat rack by the door of the coffee house? It is given as much character perspective as Sonny and we actually see the coat rack on a regular basis with a variety of characters. Maybe it is OK for you to enjoy such an unequal relationship where we always see things from the perspective of one half of the couple while never seeing the viewpoint of the other. Some of us have a difficult time supporting such a couple. In fact, there is no couple on this show in which the two halves are treated more differently and unequally than Will and Sonny. Evidently this inequality is fine for some people because as long as Will has a boyfriend, that boyfriend doesn't have to be seen or have any feelings or layers or characterizations. Will might as well be dating the coat rack or hire himself a rent boy if Sonny does not need to be an equal partner worth caring about in their relationship. Pretty much everyone on this board has been seeing things from Sonny's prospective. How they would react when they find out, given the things that Will is doing to him. Very few see it from Will's side. If they did, they wouldn't see him as weak and selfish. The old Will would have never hesitated to accept his child. This new Will... well, I have nothing good to say, so I won't. The only redeemable thing this Will has going is that Chandler is hot. BTW, it's not just this character I don't like anymore. The whole show is just bad.
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Post by md1347 on Jan 5, 2013 20:24:10 GMT -5
Maybe things will be better after Nick is gone. He seems to be leading the way as he builds to his big finish. They are going to want to use the character as much as possible until then. I understand where you are coming from, but even though Will might be seen more than Sonny, at this point, his role hasn't really been that big. Even if he has been on the whole show. I have not heard that Blake was leaving the show.
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Post by md1347 on Jan 5, 2013 20:22:19 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that's the way it is on soaps. Sonny is a 3rd tier character. His job is to support the 2nd tier character (Will) that's he's with. He could be promoted but I don't see that coming anytime soon. I agree that daytime soaps have third tier characters but generally speaking they they only exist together as a couple like Justin/Adrienne (who are together and see both of them only once in blue moon) or somebody like Kayla or Roman who are on their own but barely see either of them. Generally when there is a front burner story going on and two characters are paired up you don't have one of the characters pretty much non existent. Of if they exist it is usually with more veteran couples. Again, I hope things change as once again I don't want to be a pessimist. I am just going off what has happened and what spoilers and rumors (sometimes rumors do prove to be true) are now saying. I think, it could stay the same or even get worse after the reveal. If Sonny isn't talking to Will than the likelihood of seeing Sonny isn't very likely because Sonny isn't shown as his own character. We will see scenes of Sonny with his family and also with their friends in the aftermath. Don't just assume he'll disappear and not ever be seen again. If they are going to be together after this, then he'll be around.
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Post by md1347 on Jan 5, 2013 10:07:48 GMT -5
It seems so. Its such a shame. For some reason, it seems like this entire story is headed the Nuke way where almost everything is about Luke while Noah had his bits 'n' bobs. Sigh. Both Will and Sonny together could have done so much as Wilson. I just hope I'm proven wrong and the writers do actually treat Sonny with equal importance. I hope I am proven wrong also but as more and more spoilers come out I get more disappointed . Even Chad has a bigger role than Sonny. They could have done so much more with Sonny and Chad getting together to figure out the truth but instead Sonny was a supporting player in that and shown for a couple of scenes. When I see the episode counts of where Gabi ranks now it's just sad. It's no wonder the ratings have tanked. I am not just trying to be negative but as a fan of Sonny and of Wilson it's disappointing to see how neither is being written for. Like you said so much could have been done with Wilson together or Sonny as his own character. I was very excited when the new writers took over. I thought things would change. Though, Sonny is at least being being shown now it is still not that much. I feel as soon as Sonny and Will had their love scene Sonny's airtime decreased even more as though they finally reached a milestone with the gay story to suffice viewers and now not much is left for Sonny except scraps when they want to show something about their gay romance. Sonny will probably be on more after the reveal.
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Post by md1347 on Jan 5, 2013 10:06:35 GMT -5
So sounds like Sonny once again have a very small role this week. I give it until right after the reveal. If he just continues to stand there and have two lines, I give up on this story completely. I know I keep saying it but it's a total shame how Sonny is completely wasted. Unfortunately, that's the way it is on soaps. Sonny is a 3rd tier character. His job is to support the 2nd tier character (Will) that's he's with. He could be promoted but I don't see that coming anytime soon.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 31, 2012 11:17:22 GMT -5
There is also the fact that Freddie and the guy that plays Tad taped a couple of episodes together around Valentine's Day. It seems Tad is only is used as a prop to help Will and Sonny so maybe they are on the outs but get back together for Valentine's Day. I sense a Will and Sonny wedding. Will was so against marriage. Sonny was so against staring a family. But sometimes life situations change perspectives. Tad will probably help them reconnect... BUT... I think a wedding for Will and Sonny is a bit of wishful thinking. I think, in no way, is days going there that soon with them... if ever.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 31, 2012 11:10:53 GMT -5
I didn't read the spoiler but "far from being over" could mean they do break up but will get back together at some future date. Yes, it may also be a possibility on Monday they quarrel, and the very next day (another day, I think from the perspective of soap), they are reconciled. LOL I think they will be apart for a while (1-3 months) as Will tries to explain to Sonny and Sonny being mad but I do think they will get back together.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 31, 2012 9:36:37 GMT -5
if it is true me personally i am very happy that they are not breaking up because they don't need to. Even in a messed up situation like this two people that love each other should be able to work through anything. If we all pay attention you can see what they are trying to do in that Will and Sonny will last and Gabi and Nick will end up self destructing when it is all said and done. I think they will break up but that doesn't mean I don't think they will get back together at some point. Doormats do not make good soap.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 31, 2012 9:32:43 GMT -5
Oh no! Everyone, check the Days Cafe spoilers for Jan. 14th!!! So it is as everyone had feared. According to this spoiler, Sonny will not be breaking up with Will at all. But of course, spoilers can always be interpreted in multiple ways... I'm not a happy camper ¢Í.¢Í The spoiler is more or less that same thing as posted earlier but in a different style. But yes, the usage of "but they are far from being over" is obviously indicates that WilSon won't be separating from each other. But yes, I would love to see them temporarily being away from each other before being far from over. Will should be taught a lesson that he cannot take Sonny for granted over and over again. I didn't read the spoiler but "far from being over" could mean they do break up but will get back together at some future date.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 30, 2012 23:09:04 GMT -5
Honestly, I can't think of anything more boring than Sonny forgiving Will right away. It's days but I can't believe they would be that lame.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 29, 2012 11:44:06 GMT -5
Maybe Chad knows the baby isn't Nick's but doesn't know it's Will's. All this talking about getting Gabi back needs to finally happen or he'll end up looking pathetic like EJ and Stefano.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 28, 2012 20:42:00 GMT -5
Just wondering how many of you really want Sonny to dump Will? Hasn't it been established that unless Sonny is on with Will, we don't see Sonny ? Take Monday for example. Sonny is not in scenes with Will and we get Sonny for all of 2 scenes. Where as Will is in several scenes. I know it sounds good on paper as I have been wanting this. But I fear if Sonny breaks up with Will, we won't see Sonny even more than we already don't see him . They will be on a break and we will see Will in lots of story but Sonny probably not on as he will be broken up from Sonny. It's not about wanting, it's about what's deserved for what Will has done. If I was Sonny, I would be pissed. Trust is important.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 28, 2012 20:35:40 GMT -5
I'm Team Will because I think what he is going through is horrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone and I think what Gabi and Nick have done in the past to get their way and what they are doing now is inhumane and I want Gabi and Nick to pay. I'm team "good story" and we are not getting one. I'm tired of hearing about Gabi and Nick. Will caused this entire issue by not stepping up and being a man about the situation. This current situation and what's coming next with people find out the truth and his and Sonny's relationship, is all his fault and only his fault.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 28, 2012 20:29:45 GMT -5
Brave? Yeah no! Brave is standing up and doing the right thing and telling the damn truth. Everything in Will is wanting him to this but is he listening to his inner self? HELL to the MF NO! He is letting dumb and dumber continue to manipulate his ass and fill his head full of bs where Sonny is concerned. Basically he is trying to save a relationship that doesn't need to be saved by lying and denying paternity of his child. It's always brave when you put someone you love's well being before your own. Will wants to be a part of the child's life and that is why he is having doubts. He feels that Nick might be a homophobe, but he hasn't confronted him about it yet. Maybe it was a term of endearment, like Sonny's dweeb. But he's not putting Sonny's well being above his own. He's trying to save his own ass and by not telling Sonny straight out, he's digging a deeper whole that will cave in when Sonny finds out and dumps his sorry ass.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 28, 2012 5:18:51 GMT -5
If they had a shower scene, Days would have to build a shower set. These things often come down to money.
But they could of had Sonny run in to shower and had Will strip down and run after Sonny. We could have heard Sonny be surprised that Will stepped into the shower.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 24, 2012 20:05:47 GMT -5
@trish. I've been wanting to say the exact same thing for some time. Soaps have been predictable for years and many ways that is what people like about them. I've read comments saying it would have been better for Will and Sonny to be caught up in a love triangle with Brian, or an ex lover of Sonny's, or for Will to be competing with his mother for EJ's affections but in what way are any of those things less predictable than the baby SL? Hasn't the illicit affair and the love triangle also been done to death over the years? Pound to a penny we will eventually end up with something along these lines as the baby SL can't last forever, nor is there any evidence it will completely cramp Will and Sonny's style. Personally I would rather see Will and Sonny wih a baby than something less predictable like one of them being possessed by a demon, or putting on a dress and pretending to be a woman. I also agree about the SL being about Will following in parents and even Marlena's footsteps because let's not forget she also had a 'whose the baby daddy' SL with Isabella. I think the fact the writers didn't shy away from it because Will is gay to be a positive thing. Soaps are predictable, and they are a dying genre that lose viewers day by day, maybe there are some relationship between both things. And yes, i would prefer a gay love triangle, maybe it wouldn't be less predictable, but at leat it would avoid a gay guy having sex with a woman, and the long and boring baby storyline that comes after that. Right now there's absolutely nothing gay about Wilson, and i'm all for the sexuality of the characters not being their main characteristic, but in this case i would apreciate if the center of their storyline won't be Gabi and her baby. At this point if Chandler for some reason decide to leave the show i can see the writers given them the same end Kish had. This is the third USA soap that make a gay storyline, and being the third had it's advantages, like not repeat the other soaps mistakes. Right now this is not happening. I wouldn't be so upset if at least the storyline was interesting or funny, but it's bad writen and predictable, and the worse part is that it will drag for long time. Days baby storyline was horrible and this is not looking better Instead of a typical 3-way, why not have them have diversity in other area's of their lives. A job, a family member or whatever. Daytime is dying because they keep repeating the same old tiring thing all the time. How many times can Sami bounce between EJ and Rafe? Looks like EJ is next but how long do you really think that will last before she bounces back to Rafe or someone else? It's just too much.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 24, 2012 20:00:52 GMT -5
I hope the show is better than the twitter feed. Especially with stuff like this. DaysCafe þ@DaysCafe #days #dool Tuesday Julie asks Rafe where Sami be. He says they are not together. Julie says AGAIN??? lmao That might actually be funny if Rafe or Sami were a Horton and Lucas who is a Horton, wasn't there. Honestly, does anyone care anymore? All this bouncing around is hugely boring and frankly, tiring and very boring. Makes you wonder if they will being someone else in for Will, since he seems to be turning out like his mother, so he can have the same boring shit with 2 guys bouncing around.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 23, 2012 20:21:30 GMT -5
After all the BS with this baby story I'm hoping for a huge argument/blowup when Sonny finds out the truth then a breakup for a while and Will can then fight to regain Sonnys trust or something along those lines but I'm thinking the writers will more than likely rather concentrate on the Wabi/Nabi/Safe fallout then the WilSon drama so it will likely end up been like all the other lame "fights" they've had where they frown at each, then a third party tells each of them how how much they love each other and they make up within in a week or two, Sonny is all forgiving and we go on like nothing happened. Exactly. There won't be a huge argument/blowup. Sonny will be mad for about 30 seconds and then he's going to forgive will for everything. And then they will team up to try and take down Nick and Gabi, get custody of that baby, raise it together and that would be the end of them. Because Sonny is a punk and will is a punk ass. They belong together. Except that we've had a big lead up about Will hurting Sonny. At some point, Will will have to hurt Sonny. Otherwise, what's the point? I'm betting this is going to really hurt Sonny, otherwise, it's going to be stupid.
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Post by md1347 on Dec 22, 2012 12:21:48 GMT -5
Why do you think Will is the one to tell the truth (voluntarily)? He hasn't so far on any occasion that I can think of. I think Will was relieved when he thought Sonny knew and even more so when he thought he understood. When Sonny didn't he was disappointed, but him being so happy, made it difficult to come completely clean. Now he thinks everything is great and he finds out that Nick is worse than he thought and even his grandmother is warning him. He's having nightmares and his fears are confirmed by what Gabi says. It would be easy to be happy that Sonny no longer seems to be a problem, but now what he really wants is starting to get in the way of him being happy, so I think that is why there is a possiblity that Will will come clean when at the wedding. I agree with you it is a far fetched idea and that's why I feel that he will be on the verge or really wanting to, but Chad steps in first. Will is having nightmares because of the guilt he feels for abandoning his child. He knows it's not right but he went along with it anyway. I don't think he'll volunteer that he's the father, unless he has too. I think in order to have this whole shitty storyline work, Chad has to out Gabi, which outs Will. Chad has been bitching and moaning about getting Gabi back for what she did. Will just gets caught in the crossfire. I think Chad will find out that Nick isn't the father and blab it during the ceremony, in order to get back at Gabi. Gabi will be put on the spot by everyone and that's when Will will stand up and admits that he's the father (to save Gabi). That's when all hell will break loose (or at least it should, if they write it right). They haven't written Will with a set of balls, so I don't see him standing up on his own.
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