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Post by evajan2 on May 6, 2011 8:05:07 GMT -5
It's called 'VL logic', Eva! ;D maybe this is the "positive sign" maybe it has to be a remembrance of his" happy, exciting and restless times " without Christian...somehow strange...
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Post by valso on May 6, 2011 8:24:47 GMT -5
Thank you Joanna for posting the pics and Sibi for the translation Imo I think Olli can't bear the sight of the things that remind him of happy times with Christian and they can be anything, from a rock, to a pic, to a glass or whatever else they picked up together.
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Post by maya on May 6, 2011 8:42:20 GMT -5
I think Olli has a tougher time than Christian during this break period, he still lives in the house they shared together and everything around him can't help but make him remember the time with Christian, while Christian is in a new place and can immerse himself in his job trying to drown out his problems. So I understand Olli's desire to get rid of stuff that remind him of Christian but at the same time I feel for Christian cause I'm sure he will be very hurt by this action cause he will feel like Olli shut him out completely thanks Sibi and Joanna
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Post by Trish on May 6, 2011 9:03:02 GMT -5
Yes Chrisitan can throw himself in his work, but Olli is a big part of that too. He came out and they had that picnic, and went horseback riding for the first time and made love in the field as well as in barn. There are memories of Chrolli everywhere.
It doesn't really matter, since this is all for the drama anyway. Before Christian left, he was sitting on the couth smelling his sweater. I said yesterday, it would have made more sense for Olli to leave since he needed the break. It made no sense for him to want to stay in the flatshare, espceially with Andi there as a blatant reminder of that night.
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Post by chrischi on May 6, 2011 9:08:40 GMT -5
I also think it would have made more sense for Olli to leave the flat share, but that's also VL logic I guess. I feel for Christian cause I'm sure he will be very hurt by this action cause he will feel like Olli shut him out completely Maybe that's a part of the preparation for the Christian/Theresa story.
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Post by Trish on May 6, 2011 9:34:35 GMT -5
Maybe for Christian to turn to someone else, but I think we need more info to explain why he would chose a woman, given that that is what hurt Olli the most.
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Post by evajan2 on May 6, 2011 9:53:06 GMT -5
I hope that he will have at least a little believable reason to behave suddenly so hostile towards Christian such a sudden change of mood is strange and for me - totally incomprehensible maybe the authors want to show Olli as the bad guy .... I have nothing against it ... but they have to give him at least a little ( and credible ) reason for such a strange behavior maybe Olli already decided that they don't have any future and he wants the best for Chris...a new life with woman , children , house, dog and all that stuff .... and therefore he'll behave toward Chris so bad ,to make Chris hate him and forget about their love as quickly as possible who knows ...??
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Post by Trish on May 6, 2011 10:26:01 GMT -5
Christian doesn't want children, or are we to believe, he doesn't want them if it's going to be difficult to have them?
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Post by evajan2 on May 6, 2011 10:32:48 GMT -5
Christian doesn't want children, or are we to believe, he doesn't want them if it's going to be difficult to have them? it's not about what Chris wants , or doesn't want right now .... but what Olli might think, that is the best for Chris...
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Post by gabyta07 on May 6, 2011 10:57:18 GMT -5
Christian doesn't want children, or are we to believe, he doesn't want them if it's going to be difficult to have them? From what I understood, he does want children. I mean he even had the hetero dream...a wife, a white house and children. what he doesnt want is the pain, to have to give up your child any moment...he doesnt want to be a foster parent. I think this is reasonable. And to force him to accept it, its wrong of olli. Family has always been a BIG deal for Christian, its not something he takes lightly.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on May 6, 2011 10:58:57 GMT -5
From what I understood, he does want children. I mean he even had the hetero dream...a wife, a white house and children. what he doesnt want is the pain, to have to give up your child any moment...he doesnt want to be a foster parent. I think this is reasonable. And to force him to accept it, its wrong of olli. Family has always been a BIG deal for Christian, its not something he takes lightly. Yep, you're right.
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Post by Trish on May 6, 2011 11:05:14 GMT -5
Part of the problem the other day was that Olli wanted a family and Chrisitan didn't. I understand that Christian had said that he wanted that before they got married. I'm going off what Olli said recently. So I wouldn't think that he would let Chrisitan go so that he can have a wife and familly. He just thinks that Chrisiian wants to be with women.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on May 6, 2011 11:08:51 GMT -5
Christian married Olli even though he knew that, quite obviously, Olli can't give him biological children. Christian married Olli cuz he loves him, and he knew they could get through the family thing together, they have options. But he doesn't want to go thru the whole Lily thing again, thats the only thing. And yeah, Olli didn't break up with Christian so he could get a wife and have kids, thats not the case at all. Olli's insecure about Christian wanting women again. I seriously doubt he WANTS Christian to go marry some girl and have kids with her. NOT THE CASE AT ALL.
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Post by Trish on May 6, 2011 11:24:48 GMT -5
Christian married Olli even though he knew that, quite obviously, Olli can't give him biological children. Christian married Olli cuz he loves him, and he knew they could get through the family thing together, they have options. But he doesn't want to go thru the whole Lily thing again, thats the only thing. And yeah, Olli didn't break up with Christian so he could get a wife and have kids, thats not the case at all. Olli's insecure about Christian wanting women again. I seriously doubt he WANTS Christian to go marry some girl and have kids with her. NOT THE CASE AT ALL. Exactly. I've tried to figure out Olli's motives. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me. I think Olli simply feels he can't compete with a woman. He makes it seem like the Jessica issue was the last straw, but really Olli wasn't that gunho on children until Christian came back and said that he wanted one. Next thing you know, Olli has them signed up for foster care. Yes Christian went along with it, but he had his reservations. Part of me feels that Olli thought a child would be what they needed to cement their relationship and make them a real family. When Lily was taken away, he felt the best thing was to move on and get another child, because Christian was so devasted. Christian didn't want that, but Olli still felt that it was necessary. I think that Olli has always had fears that he would lose Christian to a woman and that him giving a child would put allow him to compete. Christian not wanting children and sleeping with Jessica showed Olli that Chrisitan wanted women with or without the child issue and him giving him a child would do nothing to keep him from losing him eventually. That's my take on things.
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Post by gabyta07 on May 6, 2011 12:32:34 GMT -5
I was watchin yesterday, Tom and Olli....I wanted to understand how can a person, could change so much from not wanting kids to be so eager to have them. I mean I have friends, that have never wanted children...and they get married, and they still dont want children...I just had one friend that after she got married, said to me, if my husband wants them, then its ok to have children, but I dont care about having them. The thing is that I have never seen a person, like Olli, freaking out about having children and then "I want to have a family sooo much". Anyway, Olli with Tom, is like a different character all together, Olli seem very submissive to Tom, and whinny, almost like a child. But with Chrisitan he is another pillar, both of them support each other. I understand that when Tom was with Olli, we werent suppose to like Olli, since the story it was abt Tom and Ulli, if the writers made us like Olli, then that would be the end of Tom and Ulli...so I think thats why they make him childish. And with Christian and Olli, the writer make us fall in love with both of them. anyway, theres an episode that I love, where Olli is talking abt Christian to Rebecca, and said that Chrolli is the perfect fit, bc they do really support each other, he can count on Christian for anything, plus Christian is gorgeous. Maybe, Trish is right, he wanted to cement the relationship with the word family. And he wouldnt want children if it were another man than Chrisitian. Christian is what makes him want a family, bc for Olli, Christian is his soulmate. Maybe Olli is still the insecure and whiny child inside. And all this is too much for him. So instead of going through the same hurt of Tom and Ulli, he prefers to just break it off, as a way to protect himself. What is scary to think is...is Olli going to do the same thing he did when he was with Tom?...Tom cheated on him with Ulli so Olli slept with a woman, so is he going to "cheat" on Christian so he can take revenge? or Olli has already mature from all that? Sorry for my rambling....
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Post by dalphine on May 6, 2011 12:44:53 GMT -5
You know every relationship is different, you might want something different with one person you didn't want with the other one. I think Olli thought he found his soul mate and was ready for kids but didn't say anything until Christian brought it up. He wanted a family and I don't think anything is wrong with that. I'm not upset because I know they will get back together soon, we just don't know when. These kind of scenes Jo and Thore love to play they have mention this in interviews that they like drama and they don't like being the happy couple all the time. Now us fans have different opinion on that, we would love for them to be happy all the time, because to us they are the perfect couple and they belong together forever.
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Post by gabyta07 on May 6, 2011 12:54:34 GMT -5
You know every relationship is different, you might want something different with one person you didn't want with the other one. I think Olli thought he found his soul mate and was ready for kids but didn't say anything until Christian brought it up. He wanted a family and I don't think anything is wrong with that. I'm not upset because I know they will get back together soon, we just don't know when. These kind of scenes Jo and Thore love to play they have mention this in interviews that they like drama and they don't like being the happy couple all the time. Now us fans have different opinion on that, we would love for them to be happy all the time, because to us they are the perfect couple and they belong together forever. Its not wrong for me that Olli wants to have a family, what I find wrong of him is to try to force the foster parenting on Christian.... They should just adopt, even if they have to wait six years. or....Christian gets together with Theresa, he gets her pregnant, she has the baby, but they are complications, she dies, and then Chrolli get back together...and with a baby...LOL
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Post by dalphine on May 6, 2011 13:00:36 GMT -5
I wish they could have a biological kid and they could if they come to America and use both his and Olli sperm like NPH and his partner did. I know this couple isn't real but sometimes I do think they are. I'm to obess with this couple.
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Post by gabyta07 on May 6, 2011 13:32:06 GMT -5
I wish they could have a biological kid and they could if they come to America and use both his and Olli sperm like NPH and his partner did. I know this couple isn't real but sometimes I do think they are. I'm to obess with this couple. Dont worry Im obssess too....its a shame that it has ended. Im still in mourning and trying to make sense to this couple reasoning.
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Post by joanna on May 6, 2011 13:36:17 GMT -5
or....Christian gets together with Theresa, he gets her pregnant, she has the baby, but they are complications, she dies, and then Chrolli get back together...and with a baby...LOL Eva (Theresa) has a 6-month guest role on the show...
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Post by chrolliforever7 on May 6, 2011 13:37:50 GMT -5
or....Christian gets together with Theresa, he gets her pregnant, she has the baby, but they are complications, she dies, and then Chrolli get back together...and with a baby...LOL Eva (Theresa) has a 6-month guest role on the show... Good thing too, cuz I would NOT wanna see Christan get her pregnant....noooooooooo thank you.
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Post by mandalai on May 6, 2011 14:03:18 GMT -5
Eva (Theresa) has a 6-month guest role on the show... Good thing too, cuz I would NOT wanna see Christan get her pregnant....noooooooooo thank you. Neither do I
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Post by psychomary on May 7, 2011 15:43:11 GMT -5
Christian doesn't want children, or are we to believe, he doesn't want them if it's going to be difficult to have them? From what I understood, he does want children. I mean he even had the hetero dream...a wife, a white house and children. what he doesnt want is the pain, to have to give up your child any moment...he doesnt want to be a foster parent. I think this is reasonable. And to force him to accept it, its wrong of olli. Family has always been a BIG deal for Christian, its not something he takes lightly. I understand this, but if Christian marries a woman and she'll loose the baby, or the baby dies or she can't have children... what will Christian do? Leave her again till when he finds a woman who doesn't make him suffer? I think the future is not predictable... suffering is always around the corner and he can't avoid it. Fighting with Olli and trying to forget everything drinking on and on was not the solution... Olli can't have babies and Christian knew it before wedding. If he had doubts about how to have them, he would have to talk about it before marriage.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 9:48:18 GMT -5
it seems to me that Olli is just pretending to be very angry at Christian ..first he looks pissed off but he closes the door and then is very sad ... just don't know why ?... maybe he wants to push Christian away and start a new life without him - and that's that positive sign ....? but we know that weeks after these scenes Olli has still his wedding ring .... it's very confusing...
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Post by Trish on May 8, 2011 9:58:04 GMT -5
He's doing what he thinks he has to do, but it's hurting him deeply. I said it before, he's letting his head rule his actions, and his heart is suffering. If he allowed himself to remember the good times they have had, he would be able to get past it, but he doesn't want to. He wants to push it away for fear that he will get hurt again. He head won't let his heart trust again. Maybe at some point down the road.
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