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Post by solomom67 on May 27, 2010 0:26:40 GMT -5
Hallo Meine Liebe! Yeah...I just could NOT hold my tongue (wanna help me out here) and had to state loud and clear my frustrations with this episode. I mean..I get that it's a Soap, but COME ON WRITERS.....QUIT getting your ideas outta the clearance bin; cheap, not very pretty, so post season and fall apart after one episode. Writing...it's called a CRAFT for a reason...implying that care, concern and creativity are involved in the PROCESS. It's not supposed to be like the post hangover...vomiting your ideas all over the page....it's supposed to be thoughtful and have continuity and some semblance of sane thinking. Hello Tkat and Solomom! I must agree the writers are really twisting the characters to make this drama work. It's gone on way too long to be believable. That said, I did enjoy this episode. While Christian was clearly being an ass, I was sort of gleeful because I'm totally on Christian's side in this whole Rob mess and I was glad Olli got a taste of his own medicine. Olli needs to be jerked into reality that his blind trust in Rob is destroying his relationship. This was a messy way to do it, especially involving godawful Rebecca, but it got the job done. (Covers head, prepares to be stoned to death) BRIAN...one of the bestest roomies in all the Land!!! Oh...I agree...while Christian is being an ass...Olli certainly isn't innocent in how this has played out. He KNOWS Rob wants in his pants.....Rob has made it very obvious and while Olli may not be biting (only licking and salivating a bit) he seems to be willingly ignoring how this siutation makes Christian feel. A lie by omission is still a lie...and Olli hasn't been honest with Christian about just how far things have gone with Rob and how aggressive Rob has actually been. Olli's cute and cuddly, but not naive. He's been around the ship a time or two and he chooses to ignore the things Rob says to Christian and the strain his working with Rob has placed on his relationship. Their failure to communicate on any sort of a mature level is showing more and more in their interactions with each other.
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Post by thunderkat on May 27, 2010 1:50:59 GMT -5
Hello Tkat and Solomom! I must agree the writers are really twisting the characters to make this drama work. It's gone on way too long to be believable. That said, I did enjoy this episode. While Christian was clearly being an ass, I was sort of gleeful because I'm totally on Christian's side in this whole Rob mess and I was glad Olli got a taste of his own medicine. Olli needs to be jerked into reality that his blind trust in Rob is destroying his relationship. This was a messy way to do it, especially involving godawful Rebecca, but it got the job done. (Covers head, prepares to be stoned to death) BRIAN...one of the bestest roomies in all the Land!!! Oh...I agree...while Christian is being an ass...Olli certainly isn't innocent in how this has played out. He KNOWS Rob wants in his pants.....Rob has made it very obvious and while Olli may not be biting (only licking and salivating a bit) he seems to be willingly ignoring how this siutation makes Christian feel. A lie by omission is still a lie...and Olli hasn't been honest with Christian about just how far things have gone with Rob and how aggressive Rob has actually been. Olli's cute and cuddly, but not naive. He's been around the ship a time or two and he chooses to ignore the things Rob says to Christian and the strain his working with Rob has placed on his relationship. Their failure to communicate on any sort of a mature level is showing more and more in their interactions with each other. ::Hands bsgnut a very small, flimsy and poorly made paper umbrella to guard from stones:: What did you expect from an Olli lover? ;D ;D High five Solomom, your description of Olli is spot on. Cute, Cuddly, and Keen, that's my Olli and he thought he had everything all balanced in the juggling act between Rob's interest, Christian's Jealousy, and his own aspirations, but Christian shot that all to sh*t and torpedoed Olli right at the heart of his insecurities w. all this girl flirting. I'm wondering if the kitchen incident will EVER come to light, or is that a secret Olli is taking to the grave? And bsgnut, while I can't quite join you in terms of being gleeful at Christian's behavior, I get where you're coming from, sometimes it's a delight to see our favorite characters behave very naughtily.
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Post by jordle on May 27, 2010 5:33:15 GMT -5
Hello everyone! I've been lurking for ages but this episode finally made me write something... well I say half the episode because I can't bring myself to watch the Party scenes. Christian, Christian, Christian (with an Olli thrown in for not telling Rob off for calling his Sweetie Chrissie).
I'm Jordan, btw. I'm a girl originally from Australia but I live in London at the moment.
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Post by lyddy3 on May 27, 2010 6:07:52 GMT -5
I love that you can see a process of thought run through this thread. First, blind anger and sadness. Poor Ollibear, Christian is a prick... Then you get the 'Christian is super jealous and obsessive' stage We journey on to 'It doesn't make Christian's behaviour acceptable, but...' Now we seem to have strayed into 'It is Rob and Olli's fault' ground. It feels like we are going through a recovery process, covering all the stages until we can accept what happened and move on I hope that this may be what goes through Olli's head. In his position, I would be incredibly pissed off with Christian right now, but hopefully over time he will realise perhaps just how much of an effect his 'relationship' with Rob is having on Christian ---> affecting his mental state. I agree, Christian does seem very obsessed with Olli, but I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think it is a good thing, and that Olli is the same. His jealousy makes him act crazy, but it is not unprovoked, and that level of frustration mixed in with overwhelming worry that the love of your life is going to be taken away from you can make people act weirdly. It is just a shame that it normally ends in you pushing the person away even more. Despite his very questionable behaviour at the moment, I quite like Christian at the moment. At the beginning, we saw Olli obsessed with Chrisitian, and with the Axel beating thrown in, Olli was presented as the vulnerable one who needed someone to look after him. Recently, especially since the heart condition, we have finally seen a switch in roles between them and suddenly we truly get to see Christian's vulnerability. He is growing up a bit (excluding the last couple of months..) and it is like he has finally found himself and realised just how much he needs Olli. I think all this crap at the moment is a reaction to finally allowing himself to be vulnerable around Olli and becoming truly comfortable with their relationship, and then suddenly to find that things aren't going as well as you thought. I might just be rambling, but I think that if they can get out of this situation with Rob, then they will be so much stronger. When Rob hasn't been around, we've seen some really cute Chrolli at the moment...
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Post by MercuryMay on May 27, 2010 6:23:19 GMT -5
Welcome Jordan! I´ve been watching the episode again this morning and have had a look at ALL of Joanna´s caps... So here are my thoughts: This is the way Christian looked when he saw Olli with Rob (again). That´s the "Am I not good enough for him anymore?" look all over again. He did not see Olli pushing Rob away, up until now he hasn´t seen any of Olli´s efforts to keep Rob at a distance. (The show made sure that Christian can only clearly see them just seconds before und seconds after Olli pushes Rob away). Credits to Olli for definitely getting better at pushing Rob away, but this is what Christian sees: Yes, Olli´s holding his hand up, but he looks at Rob with a flirting smile. Doesn´t look like he´s setting up any boundaries. Christian was aware Olli didn´t actively do anything, but as far as he knows, he doesn´t do anything to really stop Robert´s advances either. All he knows is about the kiss (and as to my knowledge Olli never really explained what happened there) and that Olli keeps on belittling his "bad feelings" about Rob and that he believes Rob more than him. But on the other hand he has been riled up by Rob countless times. Don´t get me wrong, there´s no excuse for his childish "I´m gonna show you" attitude, but it´s not like his jealousy and insecurities are completely without any reason. I didn´t mind the dancing with somebody else so much, because it sure is one (admittedly childish) way to say, see how that hurts? But the kiss with Rebecca was WRONG on so many levels. Some of them being a) THAT must really hurt Olli esp. considering Olli knows he´s done it before and it was a huge issue b.) you don´t just run around kissing your "friends" (she should slap him for that one) c.) David´s in love with her.... huh? Since when is it - on top of everything else - a good idea to kiss your friend´s girlfriend? FAIL! They definitely need that talk we all are waiting for and I won´t lose hope that one of these days the writers will actually allow them to talk. Oh, and I wouldn´t mind seeing Christian and Olli dance like THAT either... just sayin´ For some (probably sick) reason, I absolutely adore Olli like this: Makes me want to hug and comfort him...*sniff* (not that I needed a special reason for the hugging part...) Joanna, what can I say? Love your caps! Thank you, Schatz!
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Post by lyra85 on May 27, 2010 7:07:33 GMT -5
You're right, it is all about Olli's business tonight! and yesterday and tomorrow and the day after and in two weeks and in 2014... ;D
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Post by bsgnut on May 27, 2010 8:24:05 GMT -5
BRIAN...one of the bestest roomies in all the Land!!! Oh...I agree...while Christian is being an ass...Olli certainly isn't innocent in how this has played out. He KNOWS Rob wants in his pants.....Rob has made it very obvious and while Olli may not be biting (only licking and salivating a bit) he seems to be willingly ignoring how this siutation makes Christian feel. A lie by omission is still a lie...and Olli hasn't been honest with Christian about just how far things have gone with Rob and how aggressive Rob has actually been. Olli's cute and cuddly, but not naive. He's been around the ship a time or two and he chooses to ignore the things Rob says to Christian and the strain his working with Rob has placed on his relationship. Their failure to communicate on any sort of a mature level is showing more and more in their interactions with each other. ::Hands bsgnut a very small, flimsy and poorly made paper umbrella to guard from stones:: What did you expect from an Olli lover? ;D ;D High five Solomom, your description of Olli is spot on. Cute, Cuddly, and Keen, that's my Olli and he thought he had everything all balanced in the juggling act between Rob's interest, Christian's Jealousy, and his own aspirations, but Christian shot that all to sh*t and torpedoed Olli right at the heart of his insecurities w. all this girl flirting. I'm wondering if the kitchen incident will EVER come to light, or is that a secret Olli is taking to the grave? And bsgnut, while I can't quite join you in terms of being gleeful at Christian's behavior, I get where you're coming from, sometimes it's a delight to see our favorite characters behave very naughtily. Thanks for the umbrella, girl! ;D ;D And may I just say that the open-shirt-slicked-back-hair pimp look for Christian was HILARIOUS. Seemed like he was trying to be this suave, James Bond-like character. At least I HOPE this was a joke and they wouldn't make that a permanent look for him (yikes). I totally agree Christian is playing the hetero card to his advantage because he knows it drives Olli nuts. I like that twist because it's something I've seen real couples do. When you've been hurt by your partner, you want to hurt back, and you pull out whatever inflicts the most damage. Christian's bisexual past is clearly a source of insecurity for Olli.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on May 27, 2010 11:16:02 GMT -5
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Post by jordle on May 27, 2010 11:32:13 GMT -5
Thanks MercuryMay and Chrolliforever7
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Post by sylstyle on May 27, 2010 11:35:38 GMT -5
Thanks MercuryMay and Chrolliforever7 Welcome Jordan Sylvain
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Post by sio127 on May 27, 2010 11:41:00 GMT -5
can I play too? ? Welcome Jordan......are you sure you actually want to be a part of this family? It is very dysfunctional.....but there is a lot of love here!!
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Post by jordle on May 27, 2010 11:43:28 GMT -5
Thanks sio127 and Sylvain. Of course I want to join the family! It's nice to be somewhere where people get me! I look forward to getting to know everyone
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Post by sio127 on May 27, 2010 11:56:09 GMT -5
You're welcome.....although like every family there are the black sheeps...... some of us are.... then there are others.... not pointing any fingers at Sylvain!!
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Post by chrolliforever7 on May 27, 2010 11:57:26 GMT -5
Haha yess quite dysfunctional indeeeed ;D but we love each other! ♥
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Post by JustaMannsMan on May 27, 2010 12:00:18 GMT -5
I'm *REALLY* Fracking disappointed that there was NO kind of immature behavior on Olli's part tonight. at LEAST give me a little battle of who could care less, about propriety, about their partner's feelings. Christian brought a double barrell shotgun of inappropriate behavior and all Olli had was a little pea shooter. And he didn't even take it out of his pocket! GAH!! WHY can't we have some real HONEST TO GOODNESS sexual tension between Olli and Rob?!! WHY do they insist on make Rob a cartoonish buffoon?!!! I hate Olli being painted as a pure victim, Christian's actions are absolutely baseless here and it would've been so much more interesting for him to witness an inadvertent and TRUE moment of intimacy betwixt his BF and another man. I thought the same thing. The spoilers certainly painted a different picture of this ep. However, after re-watching it I feel like the expectation for the ep. and the obviousness of the last scene might have overshadowed a subtle but important aspect of the ep., making it more than just the same old, same old and providing the set-up for Christian's behavior. In the first scene we got Christian overhearing Olli appreciating Rob, then Olli pushing Christian to attend the party. Even the first time I watched, it struck me that Olli seemed to be trying to get Christian to be different, something more than just "the groom", even something that he is not (at least, not anymore). As Olli has reverted to an earlier type, the party-boy, they've both commented on how un-alike they are. Here, Olli wasn't just saying 'come have fun with me and support me' he was saying 'come be like me', the kind of guy that recognizes that life is, in part, "Drinking, dancing, having fun... Do you still remember how to do that?" In effect, Olli was telling Christian to 'come be the kind of guy I like' even if just for a night. After begging off at first, Christian apparently reconsidered AND got the message. We've seen Christian's hair slicked back for the GreLu wedding (and interestingly, in the vlog, Christian was bemoaning Olli's edict that he must 'primp'), but I can't remember Christian overtly dressing up like a party-boy since getting together with Olli. But out comes the Slickedback Silberrücken - an un-Mannly incarnation of the man his man wants him to be, the type of man that his man earlier was asking him to be. Even Christian's "I'm going to pick up a guy" line was uncharacteristic for him, but completely in sync with the character Christian was playing. Then, despite his efforts to be the kind of guy Olli appears to prefer, he gets rejected, twice. Even in this form, he's not good enough to get and keep Olli's attention; or put another way, even in this guise, he's not good enough to "pickup up a guy" - his bf; or as mercurymay reminds us above, even this Christian ends up having to ask himself: "Am I not good enough for him?" And that provokes his terrible behavior - note: not a justification, but a provocation. I wouldn't say Christian's actions were completely baseless. Base perhaps, but not baseless. No, we didn't get a moment of Olli and Rob intimacy to set Christian off; we've had those (however sleazy they have been) and more of that would just be repetitive. Instead, I think we got a relatively more sophisticated dynamic (not saying it's Noel Coward or Robert Towne sophisticated) that motivated their actions, that speaks more to the core of their characters and their conflict. Great post btw, mercurymay - especially loved the visual aids.
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Post by sylstyle on May 27, 2010 12:01:59 GMT -5
You're welcome.....although like every family there are the black sheeps...... some of us are.... then there are others.... not pointing any fingers at Sylvain!! I presume you belong to the second one ;D ;D ;D Chrolli4ever7 you're so right Sylvain
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Post by sio127 on May 27, 2010 12:03:42 GMT -5
well they do say good girls go to heaven bad girls go everywhere!!!! Well Meatloaf said it...and if he said it then it must be true!!
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Post by husky14620 on May 27, 2010 12:14:02 GMT -5
I see a lot of really great points here for and against both Olli and Christian. But I'm thinking they're both being assholes right now.
Olli knows how much Chris hates Ropp, but keeps allowing Ropp almost unlimited access.
Chris knows how much Olli hates the jealousy, but can't keep a lid on it more than a few minutes.
Olli knows Chris doesn't want to come to the party, and knows he'll be very busy working, but suggests they can party together, then is too busy (with Ropp) to pay any attention toward Chris.
Chris knows that the party is Olli's job, knows that he Olli will be very busy, but gives in and goes to the party anyway, "to support Olli", then gets drunk when Olli IS busy.
I don't believe Chris has any idea what actually happened in the flat share kitchen, and that MAY be a good thing. Although, at some time, that does need to come out, I think it would have destroyed them if Chris knew everything already.
It is like neither of them really cares about the other anymore. Back during the boxing thing, BOTH of them declared that the other was the MOST important thing. Chris offered to quit boxing, if it would make Olli happier, and Olli arranged Judith as a beard to take the pressure off Chris.
Last, I don't think Chris knew that he was actually kissing R. I think he expected the blond to still be there, and just turned around, grabbed her, and kissed. I think, when he realizes it is R, he will immediately and visibly regret it.
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Post by thunderkat on May 27, 2010 12:30:46 GMT -5
You're welcome.....although like every family there are the black sheeps...... some of us are.... then there are others.... not pointing any fingers at Sylvain!! Gosh sylvain's make up looks awful there
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Post by sylstyle on May 27, 2010 12:33:53 GMT -5
You're welcome.....although like every family there are the black sheeps...... some of us are.... then there are others.... not pointing any fingers at Sylvain!! Gosh sylvain's make up looks awful there Well Sio taught me so .... ;D especially that specific type of evil make up ;D Sylvain
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Post by sio127 on May 27, 2010 12:37:23 GMT -5
moi??? guess you both saw right through me!!! Which is why you love me!!
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Post by thunderkat on May 27, 2010 12:44:49 GMT -5
I'm *REALLY* Fracking disappointed that there was NO kind of immature behavior on Olli's part tonight. at LEAST give me a little battle of who could care less, about propriety, about their partner's feelings. Christian brought a double barrell shotgun of inappropriate behavior and all Olli had was a little pea shooter. And he didn't even take it out of his pocket! GAH!! WHY can't we have some real HONEST TO GOODNESS sexual tension between Olli and Rob?!! WHY do they insist on make Rob a cartoonish buffoon?!!! I hate Olli being painted as a pure victim, Christian's actions are absolutely baseless here and it would've been so much more interesting for him to witness an inadvertent and TRUE moment of intimacy betwixt his BF and another man. I thought the same thing. The spoilers certainly painted a different picture of this ep. However, after re-watching it I feel like the expectation for the ep. and the obviousness of the last scene might have overshadowed a subtle but important aspect of the ep., making it more than just the same old, same old and providing the set-up for Christian's behavior. In the first scene we got Christian overhearing Olli appreciating Rob, then Olli pushing Christian to attend the party. Even the first time I watched, it struck me that Olli seemed to be trying to get Christian to be different, something more than just "the groom", even something that he is not (at least, not anymore). As Olli has reverted to an earlier type, the party-boy, they've both commented on how un-alike they are. Here, Olli wasn't just saying 'come have fun with me and support me' he was saying 'come be like me', the kind of guy that recognizes that life is, in part, "Drinking, dancing, having fun... Do you still remember how to do that?" In effect, Olli was telling Christian to 'come be the kind of guy I like' even if just for a night. After begging off at first, Christian apparently reconsidered AND got the message. We've seen Christian's hair slicked back for the GreLu wedding (and interestingly, in the vlog, Christian was bemoaning Olli's edict that he must 'primp'), but I can't remember Christian overtly dressing up like a party-boy since getting together with Olli. But out comes the Slickedback Silberrücken - an un-Mannly incarnation of the man his man wants him to be, the type of man that his man earlier was asking him to be. Even Christian's "I'm going to pick up a guy" line was uncharacteristic for him, but completely in sync with the character Christian was playing. Then, despite his efforts to be the kind of guy Olli appears to prefer, he gets rejected, twice. Even in this form, he's not good enough to get and keep Olli's attention; or put another way, even in this guise, he's not good enough to "pickup up a guy" - his bf; or as mercurymay reminds us above, even this Christian ends up having to ask himself: "Am I not good enough for him?" And that provokes his terrible behavior - note: not a justification, but a provocation. I wouldn't say Christian's actions were completely baseless. Base perhaps, but not baseless. No, we didn't get a moment of Olli and Rob intimacy to set Christian off; we've had those (however sleazy they have been) and more of that would just be repetitive. Instead, I think we got a relatively more sophisticated dynamic (not saying it's Noel Coward or Robert Towne sophisticated) that motivated their actions, that speaks more to the core of their characters and their conflict. Great post btw, mercurymay - especially loved the visual aids. Seconding the awesomeness of MercuryMay's post And Damn you for so eloquently putting in concrete terms the feeling i was getting. And I totally hear where you're coming from. Bsgnut was writing that he hoped this slickback version of Christian never comes back, and it occurred to me that from the moment Christian walked out of that room he was different, and we saw "different" Christian doing all this stuff, like a reverse clark clent. But that doesn't excuse the fact that despite trying to achieve an affectation of Olli's ideal, he is still essentially Christian, and of course, as you pointed out essentially responsible for his behavior. Husky, totally agreed, both our boys have been way off base for way too long.
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Post by sio127 on May 27, 2010 12:49:35 GMT -5
^ but I LIKED the slick back look!!! Did no one else? Am I alone in my lusting? Please someone come and join my party.....feeling very alone down here in my gutter. I hated the way Christian acted but I loved his look (have I mentioned that already?) Olli was WORKING for crying out loud!! I have ususally erred on the side of Christina but not this time!!
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Post by MercuryMay on May 27, 2010 13:04:49 GMT -5
JustaMannsManand Thunderkat - Now I´m blushing. As long as we´re telling each other how awesome we are, I want you to blush too (are you two even capable of that?): I wanna join in the chorus and say I love your posts as well. All of them, and right now especially the one on the previous page. Sorry Sio, the hair doesn´t do a thing for me, but the rest of the guy look... I guess I have reasons to join you in the gutter.
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Post by solomom67 on May 27, 2010 13:33:34 GMT -5
I thought the same thing. The spoilers certainly painted a different picture of this ep. However, after re-watching it I feel like the expectation for the ep. and the obviousness of the last scene might have overshadowed a subtle but important aspect of the ep., making it more than just the same old, same old and providing the set-up for Christian's behavior. In the first scene we got Christian overhearing Olli appreciating Rob, then Olli pushing Christian to attend the party. Even the first time I watched, it struck me that Olli seemed to be trying to get Christian to be different, something more than just "the groom", even something that he is not (at least, not anymore). As Olli has reverted to an earlier type, the party-boy, they've both commented on how un-alike they are. Here, Olli wasn't just saying 'come have fun with me and support me' he was saying 'come be like me', the kind of guy that recognizes that life is, in part, "Drinking, dancing, having fun... Do you still remember how to do that?" In effect, Olli was telling Christian to 'come be the kind of guy I like' even if just for a night. After begging off at first, Christian apparently reconsidered AND got the message. We've seen Christian's hair slicked back for the GreLu wedding (and interestingly, in the vlog, Christian was bemoaning Olli's edict that he must 'primp'), but I can't remember Christian overtly dressing up like a party-boy since getting together with Olli. But out comes the Slickedback Silberrücken - an un-Mannly incarnation of the man his man wants him to be, the type of man that his man earlier was asking him to be. Even Christian's "I'm going to pick up a guy" line was uncharacteristic for him, but completely in sync with the character Christian was playing. Then, despite his efforts to be the kind of guy Olli appears to prefer, he gets rejected, twice. Even in this form, he's not good enough to get and keep Olli's attention; or put another way, even in this guise, he's not good enough to "pickup up a guy" - his bf; or as mercurymay reminds us above, even this Christian ends up having to ask himself: "Am I not good enough for him?" And that provokes his terrible behavior - note: not a justification, but a provocation. I wouldn't say Christian's actions were completely baseless. Base perhaps, but not baseless. No, we didn't get a moment of Olli and Rob intimacy to set Christian off; we've had those (however sleazy they have been) and more of that would just be repetitive. Instead, I think we got a relatively more sophisticated dynamic (not saying it's Noel Coward or Robert Towne sophisticated) that motivated their actions, that speaks more to the core of their characters and their conflict. Great post btw, mercurymay - especially loved the visual aids. Seconding the awesomeness of MercuryMay's post And Damn you for so eloquently putting in concrete terms the feeling i was getting. And I totally hear where you're coming from. Bsgnut was writing that he hoped this slickback version of Christian never comes back, and it occurred to me that from the moment Christian walked out of that room he was different, and we saw "different" Christian doing all this stuff, like a reverse clark clent. But that doesn't excuse the fact that despite trying to achieve an affectation of Olli's ideal, he is still essentially Christian, and of course, as you pointed out essentially responsible for his behavior. Husky, totally agreed, both our boys have been way off base for way too long. Bsgnut was writing that he hoped this slickback version of Christian never comes back, and it occurred to me that from the moment Christian walked out of that room he was different, and we saw "different" Christian doing all this stuff, like a reverse clark clent. This is what I was talking about in my previous post. As soon as Christian came out of the bedroom all I could think was, "Richard Gere in American Gigolo." I mean the white shirt unbuttoned half way down his chest (too bad he didn't have a gold Horoscope medallion to wear around his neck), the cheap, pimp, slicked back hair and the SWAGGER...talk about being saturated in testosterone! It wasn't Christian..it was like the version of Christian that he thinks Olli wants to see. What Olli REALLY wants. It was very obvious Christian was feeling cocky (YES...I did in fact just SAY that!! ) and you just got a feeling that tonight...well....tonight....all hell was gonna happen!
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