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Post by music on Dec 19, 2013 9:56:33 GMT -5
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Post by darkshines on Jan 14, 2014 7:25:07 GMT -5
OMG, you guys! Joscha will finally come out in front of his whole team in Episode 1892, on the 14th of March LINK
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Post by mimi1985d on Jan 14, 2014 7:50:39 GMT -5
What? What? What? Already? I didn't expect it so soon, but I'm thrilled.
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gidi
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Post by gidi on Jan 14, 2014 10:52:58 GMT -5
OMG, you guys! Joscha will finally come out in front of his whole team in Episode 1892, on the 14th of March LINKwow this is the biggest story of this series,I didn't think it will happen ! So deniz -joscha will not happen..
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Post by bigbadboy on Jan 14, 2014 11:36:07 GMT -5
OMG, you guys! Joscha will finally come out in front of his whole team in Episode 1892, on the 14th of March LINKwow this is the biggest stort ofb this series,I didn't think it will happen ! So deniz -joscha will not happen.. I always thought that Deniz/Joscha ship has sailed, actually it never left the dock because Deniz never boarded the ship. I much prefer Kai over Deniz, there's a level of maturity that he has that Deniz has yet to learn. Let him slum with up Miss Paris, texas.
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Post by jos87 on Jan 14, 2014 11:42:43 GMT -5
At this point who care if Deniz and Joscha will not get together ? I don't for sure. I like Kai and I enjoy to see their story so I'm happy that they will go with the coming out road and all the consequences it will create considering how heterosexist is the football world. From that "behind the scenes" the scene with them kissing with the camera turning around them remembers me the chrolli's scene with Christian coming out after a box match. I hope it will be emotional as well and I think it could considering that these two guys seems to have a good chemistry together
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Post by darkshines on Jan 14, 2014 11:55:06 GMT -5
What? What? What? Already? I didn't expect it so soon, but I'm thrilled. Yeah, I know, I was actually thinking it would drag on for another half year or so, but I guess there are only so many situations of almost getting caught by someone that they could write so they just bit the bullet and went with this. I'm just happy that Joscha will come out on his own and will not be thrown out from the closet by someone else. I'm actually surprised they made this public so soon, but I guess they wanted to tie it in with the coming out of the first (former) football player in Germany, as they mentioned in the video. After all, these scenes were filmed only yesterday... I guess that once Joscha is out, the sources of drama in his story will be the reaction of his teammates and on the Internet, dealing with the consequences of his fake marriage (will Raquel be sent back to Cuba, will Joscha go to jail?), and they could also bring back to the fore Kai's past and his connection to David. Exciting times.
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Post by penguino on Jan 14, 2014 12:57:16 GMT -5
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jan 14, 2014 19:35:05 GMT -5
wow this is the biggest stort ofb this series,I didn't think it will happen ! So deniz -joscha will not happen.. I always thought that Deniz/Joscha ship has sailed, actually it never left the dock because Deniz never boarded the ship. I much prefer Kai over Deniz, there's a level of maturity that he has that Deniz has yet to learn. Let him slum with up Miss Paris, texas. "Never boarded the ship." I have to keep a note of that gem. Love it and it's certainly true. Deniz has never had Joscha in his mind as a love interest or somebody that he would sleep with and Deniz has had his share of affairs, tricks, one night stands and relationships with women and men. I'm glad that Joscha has finally found the inner strength to reveal himself to others, especially his teammates. This could hopefully, be the start of Joscha becoming a stronger individual, regardless of whom he's dating. I'm so glad that Kai was introduced.
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Post by Zathras on Jan 14, 2014 20:31:18 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with wanting Deniz and Joscha to get together. At the beginning of Joscha's story I would have liked to see that. I think the juxtaposition of Deniz's role in the relationship would have been interesting. Alas, it was clear to me long ago that the show was not going there any time soon. And that's okay. Kai is doing just fine. Anyway, I'm glad that Joscha is finally going to come out. Depending on how people react, he may end up a lot happier. Or he could end up more miserable. I guess we have to wait at least a couple of months to find out.
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Post by sonnenstern on Jan 17, 2014 23:17:58 GMT -5
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Post by lobelle on Jan 18, 2014 1:19:45 GMT -5
I am so excited this is happening, but I'm a bit worried...I love the friendship he has with Raquel and his actions could have negative consequences for her.
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Post by gidi on Jan 18, 2014 4:58:36 GMT -5
Nick is play for the rival team
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Post by gidi on Jan 18, 2014 4:59:34 GMT -5
I am so excited this is happening, but I'm a bit worried...I love the friendship he has with Raquel and his actions could have negative consequences for her. I don't think so as Ingo can marry her than.
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Post by Zathras on Jan 19, 2014 15:31:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the pics, sonnenstern! Nick is back, and he's on the opposing team. That will make things interesting. There will definitely be fallout for everyone involved. I guess we won't know until March how much of it is negative, and for whom.
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Post by lexmoon on Feb 7, 2014 22:23:20 GMT -5
Joshah takes a beating after his coming-out Not every coming-out is predominantly positive, as in the cases of Thomas Hitzlsperger , Lars Steinhofel or other celebrities . Especially in football can tolerance towards gays often something to be desired , and that's why coming out is currently a big issue in " All that matters " . How negative a commitment to homosexuality can be understood , football player Joshah sword experienced painful firsthand. Only a few days after his coming out he is found half dead by his friends in the park - beaten by unknown assailants . At the hospital, a fight starts to the death ... If Joshah die? Does he have to pay for his courage with his life ? The experience the audience in the wake of 18 Of March 2014. Was actor Carlo Degen sometimes even involved privately in a fight ? "Yes , since I was still in school and with a few girls and boys on a fairground in Berlin. A few drunken guys have abused the girls and I wanted that to stop. But I only got kicked in the knee, then was I pushed and slaps went back and forth . We are then fled to the subway , where we then others have helped and have ensured that emanated again lightly. because I was really scared that something might happen. www.rtl.de/cms/sendungen/alles-was-zaehlt/bezahlt-joscha-seinen-mut-mit-dem-leben-375d3-9cd9-25-1792352.html
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Post by justinate on Feb 10, 2014 12:48:22 GMT -5
Yikes! "Half-dead" sounds terrible, and Joscha is horribly bloodied in that picture. I wish the story wouldn't go to such a dark place, but I guess if they're going for realism it's not unexpected. Joscha is going to get a lot of hate for pretending to be "one of the lads". Can we expect Nick's reappearance around the same time means he's one of the perpetrators?
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Post by gidi on Feb 11, 2014 5:51:35 GMT -5
Joshah takes a beating after his coming-out Not every coming-out is predominantly positive, as in the cases of Thomas Hitzlsperger , Lars Steinhofel or other celebrities . Especially in football can tolerance towards gays often something to be desired , and that's why coming out is currently a big issue in " All that matters " . How negative a commitment to homosexuality can be understood , football player Joshah sword experienced painful firsthand. Only a few days after his coming out he is found half dead by his friends in the park - beaten by unknown assailants . At the hospital, a fight starts to the death ... If Joshah die? Does he have to pay for his courage with his life ? The experience the audience in the wake of 18 Of March 2014. Was actor Carlo Degen sometimes even involved privately in a fight ? "Yes , since I was still in school and with a few girls and boys on a fairground in Berlin. A few drunken guys have abused the girls and I wanted that to stop. But I only got kicked in the knee, then was I pushed and slaps went back and forth . We are then fled to the subway , where we then others have helped and have ensured that emanated again lightly. because I was really scared that something might happen. www.rtl.de/cms/sendungen/alles-was-zaehlt/bezahlt-joscha-seinen-mut-mit-dem-leben-375d3-9cd9-25-1792352.htmlView Attachmentjoscha is not going to die...
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Post by sonnenstern on Feb 13, 2014 18:07:36 GMT -5
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Post by msnjs on Feb 15, 2014 20:09:50 GMT -5
You much have never heard of the Spartacus series...
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Post by music on Feb 18, 2014 22:25:27 GMT -5
You much have never heard of the Spartacus series... Nope, I haven't.
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Post by sonnenstern on Feb 22, 2014 14:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by sunshine0786 on Feb 22, 2014 17:21:43 GMT -5
I put the article through google translate. Here's the link. Now, I'm not holding my breath for Deniz to get a boyfriend, however I don't see how the article eliminates the possibility. Is it because the translation is bad?
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Post by sonnenstern on Feb 22, 2014 17:46:06 GMT -5
After look the video you have that feeling. How he speak about the moment, and about awz, Igor is happy, Deniz have a story, a girlfriend and that he can different play as at the beginning. He says, like a new beginning (for Deniz). How he speaks, makes really clear, sadly.
The background voice says: "Männerlovestorys ade, vorerst jedenfalls. Igor Dolgatschew alias Deniz Öztürk knutscht in der Serie Alles was zählt statt Männer wieder Frauen."
Sorry my bad english.
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Post by sunshine0786 on Feb 22, 2014 19:48:56 GMT -5
After look the video you have that feeling. How he speak about the moment, and about awz, Igor is happy, Deniz have a story, a girlfriend and that he can different play as at the beginning. He says, like a new beginning (for Deniz). How he speaks, makes really clear, sadly. The background voice says: "Männerlovestorys ade, vorerst jedenfalls. Igor Dolgatschew alias Deniz Öztürk knutscht in der Serie Alles was zählt statt Männer wieder Frauen." Sorry my bad english. No need to apologize for your English. I didn't watch the video, because I would probably pick up one out of every ten words in German (if I'm lucky)! So was he saying it's a new beginning for him and Melanie? I don't really mind him being with a girl, as he is bisexual, but the lack of any interest towards guys bothers me. Also I can't stand Melanie. But Deniz is also being annoying now too, so I guess they deserve each other!
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