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Post by bsgnut on Apr 30, 2010 22:54:42 GMT -5
SCHEISSE!!!! damn you jusamannsman!!! i had been quoting and copying and pasting all my witty responses to your efforts to revive me but this post was just too interesting.. It could be b/c i'm in finals mode but whenever you bring this up, it makes me think that Olli has a very underdeveloped theory of mind. He just doesn't understand that people don't see things the way he does or have all the information he has at his disposal. I think Christian gets the brunt of it double because Olli is of the mindset that Christian should know whether olli is blaming him back-handedly about the drug raid, b/c Chrissie should know what's in his mind. While Chrissie is on the other end of the spectrum and requires explicit-ness and honesty and he doesn't do inferences. he takes things at face value...ponder ponder ponder. Edit: AS you can all see Justamannsman's valiant efforts to revive me from the shock of seeing Rob's hairy Bear-ey goodness HAVE succeeded. We figured out that he hadn't been fanning my FACE that entire time. bad bad Mannbassador. Sio! how DARE you step over my carcass Thore, and jo, like rosebud said are very tight and fit young men, not an ounce of fat on them but Thore obviously went from "oh what a hot boy" to "OH SHIT...what a HOT MANN!" over the course of his being on the show. OMG, Thunderkat I totally thought of you while watching this episode. I was like, "ooh, she is not going to like this!!" ;D ;D I'm actually surprised they allowed Max's un-manscaped, un-worked out bod to be shown onscreen given the rigid standards of male hotness they have on VL. This towel-juxtaposition between Christian and Rob felt very intentional on the part of the writers. Maybe to show just how blind Olli really is? Or maybe this is this point where Olli realizes Rob isn't as perfect as he thinks?
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 30, 2010 23:01:04 GMT -5
^ ;D ;D You know me too well hon! That's a great point, btw, i mean not only can we juxtapose this scene with the red towel dance of sexiness, but with the blue towel slow walk, and the red towel "don't tell me what i can and can't do with my heart, I'm a MANN" scene. basically any scene where Olli starts drooling over a towel clad christian. there was no drooling here...there was laughter But just 'cause olli is superficial, doesn't mean that I am. I'll more than happily soothe and stroke Rob's bruised...and probably furry...."ego" ANYtime. Something else I've thought of..the latest part of max engelke's showreel focuses on comedy...i'm wondering if this goes into the comedy...or drama column
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Post by bsgnut on Apr 30, 2010 23:29:45 GMT -5
^ ;D ;D You know me too well hon! That's a great point, btw, i mean not only can we juxtapose this scene with the red towel dance of sexiness, but with the blue towel slow walk, and the red towel "don't tell me what i can and can't do with my heart, I'm a MANN" scene. basically any scene where Olli starts drooling over a towel clad christian. there was no drooling here...there was laughter But just 'cause olli is superficial, doesn't mean that I am. I'll more than happily soothe and stroke Rob's bruised...and probably furry...."ego" ANYtime. Something else I've thought of..the latest part of max engelke's showreel focuses on comedy...i'm wondering if this goes into the comedy...or drama column Yeah, it seems like Olli's main attraction to Rob is professional-- that he wants to be this super important party promoter, rather than because he's bored in his relationship with Christian (like, how could anyone be with a MANN like that???) and is phyiscally drawn to Rob. I hope we see more of why Olli is suddenly so ambitious, why he's so set on this goal of making No Limits into the Studio 54 of Dusseldorf. Does he feel inadequate somehow? Like he hasn't accomplished anything in his life and this is the one thing he can do well? There needs to be some compelling reason why he would risk so much to hitch himself to some sleazy party promoter. While Rob is certainly charming in his way, he's not the kind of seductive, mesmerizing guy to lure Olli away from a dreamboat like Chriistian. I hope Olli sees the error of his ways very soon. And that Christian stays away from . . . oh, I won't go there.
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Post by thunderkat on Apr 30, 2010 23:48:38 GMT -5
Yeah, it seems like Olli's main attraction to Rob is professional-- that he wants to be this super important party promoter, rather than because he's bored in his relationship with Christian (like, how could anyone be with a MANN like that???) and is phyiscally drawn to Rob. I hope we see more of why Olli is suddenly so ambitious, why he's so set on this goal of making No Limits into the Studio 54 of Dusseldorf. Does he feel inadequate somehow? Like he hasn't accomplished anything in his life and this is the one thing he can do well? There needs to be some compelling reason why he would risk so much to hitch himself to some sleazy party promoter. While Rob is certainly charming in his way, he's not the kind of seductive, mesmerizing guy to lure Olli away from a dreamboat like Chriistian. I hope Olli sees the error of his ways very soon. And that Christian stays away from . . . oh, I won't go there. Oh lord...Don't even get me started on psychoanalyzing Oliver Sabel. Long story short, this ambition is not new. It's simply redirected. In the past it was Christian, now it's NL and everything that goes along with it. Re hitching his wagon to a Furry star, All of Olli's professional endeavors have failed without the the aid of an older more experienced hand. Charlie, Tom, now Rob. Rob even gives him the little taste of mentor-dom Olli craves. "We'll get through it together" Oh rob. playing the understanding angel doesn't suit you. It's not so much that Rob is MORE charming than Christian... Chrissie is magical. Rob is a different and useful kind of charming, and he's a tool that Olli thinks he can wield. Unfortunately he's just a tool. a furry furry shameless towel dropping tool. My love for him remains intact.
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Post by kevinlantojack on May 1, 2010 1:04:44 GMT -5
JUST watched and OH god. I haven't even READ the comments yet but i have NEVER laughed so hard in my life!!!!!!!! Yeah. I mean... Olli would have to be suffering from sever cataracts and torn retinas to be gaga over rob...sorry, the only good thing about him is that hair...wooof. But that scene was just creepy creepy creepy and laughably so. It's a shame because I could ignore the fact that Rob is not nearly as adonis like as christian if they'd just allowed max to play that scene differently. With more finesse, with more seductiveness with less of a sledge-hammer wham bam here i am kind of feel. I mean, it's patently ridiculous. NO person would ever do this, not even Max can make this look anything less than ludicrous. Olli's reaction however is priceless and the laugh does give credence (grumble grumble) that perhaps Rob's equipment is as shriveled as his scruples. . OH well. in MY fantasy land, Rob is still a dark seductive MOFO who knows how to push ALL of Olli's buttons. Yahoo for Christian banishing rebecca to no-friendville, again. You know it's bad, when Frau lindse wants you out of her kitchen. EDIT I take it back Max. Considering the material...he did very well. I think, however, Rob was wearing Chrissie's sandals... jerk. hot hairy shameless borderline psychotic jerk. Edit a hot hairy shameless borderline psychotic jerk...with a HUGE freaking mouth... did you SEE that? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA Darn girl who piss you off ;D ;D ;D
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Post by ivaniv on May 1, 2010 3:51:41 GMT -5
LOL (continuing) you came, too... and you have to see this isn't serious because I didn't let him use your red towel, right? Besides, you know you're my one and only Pottwal! ;D There will be one thing speaking in Olli's favour. He won't have any hair stuck in his teeth (I hope)
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Post by JustaMannsMan on May 1, 2010 5:30:26 GMT -5
There will be one thing speaking in Olli's favour. He won't have any hair stuck in his teeth (I hope) ;D Even if there is Olli will just tell Christian they ran out of floss and he had to make do. Olli's quick on his feet that way.
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Post by HeliosZg on May 1, 2010 6:52:46 GMT -5
That's unfair comparison, everything looks better with arms up Anyway, I remember the times when they called Thore fat, now it's Max' turn. Actually I preferred Thore when he was a little chubby. Why do you think I keep sending him extra-fattening greek candy every year on his birthday?!?!? ;D ;D ;D Totally! Thore was so much cuter when he was a little chubbier! Btw, wonderful chemistry between Max and Jo in this episode! Until the end obviously XD... And yes, I find Thore to be hotter, but I don't like that he has no fur, so none of them is that perfect to me... But yeah, if I had to choose, I'd choose Thore, but if only Max was on the menu, I'd take him, too...
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Post by thunderkat on May 1, 2010 7:50:35 GMT -5
Feiler. \ Lol. Oh my li'l Olli is so resourceful
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Post by Zam on May 1, 2010 10:46:55 GMT -5
The flat share has been many things.
When did it also become a bath house?
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Post by Zam on May 1, 2010 10:51:09 GMT -5
(as for rebecca, you nasty sneaky HO. go away please!!) I love Frau Linse's reaction with the handbag ;D Frau Lentil was AWESOME! [ETA: Frau Lentil was used by the writers today to showcase Rebecca as "loser" again. We haven't seen that side of Lady V in almost a week.]
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Post by thunderkat on May 1, 2010 10:55:09 GMT -5
The flat share has been many things. When did it also become a bath house? Probably around the time Ole the masseur started advertising for his special "blood flow improving" massages.
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Post by sio127 on May 1, 2010 11:12:08 GMT -5
^ okay you type Blood flow improving.......I read blow flow improving.......being hanging around you, Sylvain and Vix too long!!!!
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Post by JustaMannsMan on May 2, 2010 1:56:21 GMT -5
SCHEISSE!!!! damn you jusamannsman!!! i had been quoting and copying and pasting all my witty responses to your efforts to revive me but this post was just too interesting.. It could be b/c i'm in finals mode but whenever you bring this up, it makes me think that Olli has a very underdeveloped theory of mind. Without opening up an explosive line of conversation, as we've discussed elsewhere, I agree. One of the most valuable tools a person of such a mindset can have at their disposal is the ability to compartmentalize. Thinking about Olli's behavior from even the very beginning (2008), I think his is well honed.
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Post by ivaniv on May 2, 2010 2:42:14 GMT -5
I hope this latest development will bring some symmetry into the story. Not as a punishment, but simply to let Olli feel how Christian has felt the whole time when he did not believe him a word about Ropp.
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Post by JustaMannsMan on May 2, 2010 3:10:00 GMT -5
I hope this latest development will bring some symmetry into the story. Not as a punishment, but simply to let Olli feel how Christian has felt the whole time when he did not believe him a word about Ropp. I don't think that will happen until Rob's drug dealings are exposed to Olli. So far, he already knows most of what Christian has said about Rob is true. He just thinks he can handle it, which he can't. The drug revelation offers the best chance for a wake-up call to Olli, as you said, not as punishment, but to open his eyes to how he's been used and *fingers crossed* force him to own up to it before he loses everything, including his Mann. And as much as I'd love for Christian to walk in the door and see Rob's hairy ass in his kitchen (see... I don't always have Christian's best interests at heart ;D ), if he did, then especially with Olli's ludicrous accusation that he called the cops in for the raid, I can't imagine him staying around for more abuse. On the other hand, Christian does love Olli more than anything else - including his pride - so maybe it wouldn't be the end for him. Seeing how unappealing Rob looks without clothes might just might suck the jealousy right out of Christian.
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Post by ivaniv on May 2, 2010 3:33:54 GMT -5
Yeah, it would be too explosive too soon But Olli could claim that he believed Christian and was searching for the drugs, _everywhere_.
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Post by Lightness on May 2, 2010 3:41:19 GMT -5
Seeing how unappealing Rob looks without clothes might just might suck the jealousy right out of Christian. Tastes differ, hu?
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Post by JustaMannsMan on May 2, 2010 3:47:16 GMT -5
Yeah, it would be too explosive too soon But Olli could claim that he believed Christian and was searching for the drugs, _everywhere_. My first reaction: followed closely by: *remembers the "I Love Lucy" episode where she gets her head stuck in the trophy urn* Seeing how unappealing Rob looks without clothes might just might suck the jealousy right out of Christian. Tastes differ, hu? Somehow I doubt Christian would find naked Rob any more appealing than Olli does.
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Post by ivaniv on May 2, 2010 4:00:06 GMT -5
Seeing how unappealing Rob looks without clothes might just might suck the jealousy right out of Christian. Tastes differ, hu? It could make Christian stop shaving off those three hairs on his chest when he sees Olli likes it a bit hairy
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Post by thunderkat on May 2, 2010 4:04:47 GMT -5
Given that Christian is an avowed Olli-sexual. (that's right people, I put the gay /straight debate to rest. Christian Mann: Ollisexual) I doubt he'd be warm for Rob's form as well. Although maybe Rob & Olli could collaborate on one more event and suck something other than jealousy right out of Christian... after all, Christian would do just about anything for Olli. (except propose and throw a stable party) Wonder how far that goes
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Post by Lightness on May 2, 2010 4:06:43 GMT -5
It could make Christian stop shaving off those three hairs on his chest when he sees Olli likes it a bit hairy Oh, I'm sure Olli told Christian about Tom and his bodyhair... as I see in this thread this is a VERY important topic.
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Post by maya on May 2, 2010 4:09:21 GMT -5
Given that Christian is an avowed Olli-sexual. (that's right people, I put the gay /straight debate to rest. Christian Mann: Ollisexual) I doubt he'd be warm for Rob's form as well. Although maybe Rob & Olli could collaborate on one more event and suck something other than jealousy right out of Christian... after all, Christian would do just about anything for Olli. (except propose and throw a stable party) Wonder how far that goes well, about the stable party Christian changed his mind pretty soon for Olli's sake
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Post by sio127 on May 2, 2010 4:09:25 GMT -5
Given that Christian is an avowed Olli-sexual. (that's right people, I put the gay /straight debate to rest. Christian Mann: Ollisexual) I doubt he'd be warm for Rob's form as well. Although maybe Rob & Olli could collaborate on one more event and suck something other than jealousy right out of Christian... after all, Christian would do just about anything for Olli. (except propose and throw a stable party) Wonder how far that goes Ollisexual......perfect, give the lady a prize!! Lil' Miss innocent over here in the corner doesn't get the Although maybe Rob & Olli could collaborate on one more event and suck something other than jealousy right out of Christian... well okay I do but I am so trying to get the image OUT of my head now ...bad T-Kat BAD
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Post by JustaMannsMan on May 2, 2010 4:15:14 GMT -5
Wonder how far that goes Over the Moon? ;D It could make Christian stop shaving off those three hairs on his chest when he sees Olli likes it a bit hairy At least he could leave the pits alone! Oh, I'm sure Olli told Christian about Tom and his bodyhair... as I see in this thread this is a VERY important topic. Well, Olli did get the first laugh in. We're just following his lead.
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