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Post by shamelessfan on Mar 18, 2010 19:52:48 GMT -5
I think the point is regarding the video it would be nice to see both Reid's story line as well as Luke and Noah's. The fact is that as they said on AfterElton- Reid is one of the most well drawn gay characters on day time tv in a while. He's fully integrated into other storylines. We should see how complexly they are using his character as this is different than having him play "THE GAY CHARACTER." I got a snippet of that in his banter with roommate and Henry. That scene was hilarious and shows that the doctor is both capable of being a complete jerk and a sweetie at the same time. Nice contrasting character.
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 18, 2010 20:03:37 GMT -5
Thank you shameless. It makes no sense to me to me for TGoDT to censor part of the story just because the channel they are following on YT has chosen to do so. Especially when there are alternatives who don't censor the story.
FYI this is not passive aggressiveness . This is me stating my opinion so that other TGoDT members will know what is going on and will know there is more to the story than what they are getting here.
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Post by stl29tide on Mar 18, 2010 20:03:40 GMT -5
I have a simple solution, that way everybody can stop complaining or fighting. Lukevanfan's videos can keep getting posted in the Luke/Noah thread as they always have and then someone can post all of the scenes with Luke/Reid/Noah that anthonydlangford always clips in this thread. That way for the people who hate Reid they can watch the videos in their forum like normal and for the people that like this pairing (such as myself) or just want to see everything, we can come here and watch all three of the boys.
So, just start coming to this thread to watch the scenes because all of them uploaded will be of all three of the boys. And if no one gets on to link the videos to the this thread each day, then I'll just do it myself, that way everybody's happy and can enjoy the people they like to watch. See, simple solution Yay!
Now, back to the discussion. I love Luke/Reid. Don't get me wrong, I like Luke and Noah as well, and I really hope that they'll always be a part of each other's lives, but if you really look at their relationship over the past few years, they're a really immature couple. It was young love and it's time for both of them to grow up and together they've never been able to do that, so, I say it's time to move and I love the chemistry that Luke and the hot doctor have together and can't wait to see where it goes. This is actually the first time I've been excited about ATWT since.....I can't even remember!
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Post by ladysalieri on Mar 18, 2010 20:05:52 GMT -5
And I thought a new thread would keep the pointless b*tchery to a minimum, so that we could actually stick to the topic....
(Sorry, but as the motherfreaking QUEEN of passive-aggressive-snipery, I couldn't just stand by and let others challenge my throne.) ;D
I'm pretty sure most of us who fell for Dr. Oliver knew we were walking straight into the Ship War to end all ship wars. The people who love Nuke have clung tight to it through years of poor writing, neglect, and criticism -- they're certainly not going to give it up for one snarky doctor (no matter how Holy-Shit-Hot the man looks when he gets in a temper). And I can sympathize with how angry they are that a new character comes by who's getting all the attention, and drawing in all these "new" fans, and quite frankly threatening their certainty that they're going to be rewarded for their patience with a happy-Nuke-endgame.
By the same token, as someone who tried VERY hard to like Nuke for a VERY long time (because I did like the character of Luke, and because I so much wanted to support a good gay storyline in an American soap), only to fail miserably in the attempt, I resent feeling like I have to dance around the temper of Nuke fans any time I want to talk about my honest impressions -- e.g., how I personally think Nuke was boring and awkward and how I never found them to be a believable couple. (And how lately when I watched I found myself badly wanting to strangle Noah -- and Luke for not having the spine to tell Noah to take his blind @ss on a hike off the nearest short pier.) And most of all, how exciting it is to have a gay couple on ATWT that I can support because I actually LOVE them, not just because I feel like I *should* support them.
So I'm thrilled to have a thread for the Reid/Luke fans, while the Nuke fans have their own. And I'm thrilled that the Nuke fans have LukeVanFan to chop out all those dastardly doctor scenes, while we have anthonydlangford to leave 'em in. And since we're all equally opinionated people with equally strong opinions that we're equally unlikely to change, no matter how much we argue, can't we all just stick to discussing the subjects we enjoy in the places we're most able to enjoy them?
(Shakes head at the irony of a civil rights advocate and diehard liberal making a "Plessy v. Ferguson" argument on a fanboard....)
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 18, 2010 20:07:49 GMT -5
^^^Well, my point is that TGoDT blog should post the uncensored clips on their front page so that people that watch from there are getting the full story, rather than just the parts that LukeVanFan likes.
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Post by Zathras on Mar 18, 2010 20:30:30 GMT -5
I began drafting this post last night, but ran out of time and decided to wait until today.
First, shamelessfan, you misconstrued my first post in this thread as an attack. When responding to someone like that, I always intentionally address specific points that are made, both in an attempt to understand and to express my own opinion. I may not always use the best language (I'm only human, after all), so, if anything I have said appeared to be a personal attack, I apologize.
Second, you also completely misinterpreted what I said. I have never said that Luke and Noah were happy, or disagreed that they were unhappy. I can't speak for the others, but I don't think anyone else has said that, either. In fact, I agree with the sentiment. They've been unhappy since long before the accident.
Third, as has been said, the purpose of creating a Luke/Reid thread is to discuss a new relationship. I fully support that, as it seems to be a new phase for Luke. It may end up being one part of a larger Luke/Noah story, but only time will tell. A comment was intentionally made in this thread on Noah's character first, so I felt it appropriate to respond. It was a statement of confusion, disagreement, and simply to state my opinion. The rest of my post was entirely dedicated to the developing Luke/Reid relationship. I'm quite willing to keep my posts in this thread on-topic for Luke/Reid, but if Noah is brought up then any discussion thereof is fair game.
Fourth, luckyduck, if you feel that a different person's clips better capture the Luke/Reid relationship, by all means post a link here. I'm not aware of all of them, so I certainly appreciate being pointed to other clips. But your accusations of "censoring" are, frankly, appalling. I don't even know what "front page" you're talking about. Nobody is preventing you from posting links to clips from anyone in this thread; I don't seem to recall a forum rule stating that you can't.
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 18, 2010 20:48:04 GMT -5
I'll forgive your ignorance Zanthras, but apparently you have never visited the front page of the gaydaytime blog. gaydaytime.blogspot.com/And yes, posting censored clips on the front page of a blog, when uncensored clips are readily available is censorship. I'm hoping in the interest of the viewers that TGoDT will reconsider the source of the clips they are posting.
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Post by shamelessfan on Mar 18, 2010 20:51:41 GMT -5
Lucky you need to chill on this. They should post the other videos, but again, like I said to the others. This is a show.
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 18, 2010 20:55:37 GMT -5
I've said all I'm going to say on this. I'll post the full videos here on this thread.
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Post by Zathras on Mar 18, 2010 21:09:50 GMT -5
I'll forgive your ignorance Zanthras, but apparently you have never visited the front page of the gaydaytime blog. gaydaytime.blogspot.com/Oh, you meant the blog. No, I almost never visit the blog.
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 18, 2010 21:54:45 GMT -5
I'll forgive your ignorance Zanthras, but apparently you have never visited the front page of the gaydaytime blog. gaydaytime.blogspot.com/Oh, you meant the blog. No, I almost never visit the blog. I'm sure there are some regular posters like you who don't, but I think there are a fair amount of visitors who do visit the blog.
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Post by jonniebuk on Mar 18, 2010 22:26:49 GMT -5
I'm sure there are some regular posters like you who don't, but I think there are a fair amount of visitors who do visit the blog. I never have but will do so from now. en passant Describing the selection or otherwise of material for inclusion in clips as "censorship" is OTT. Usage of the word in this respect does not appear to meet any of the available Internet definitions of "censorship".
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Post by tihkon2 on Mar 19, 2010 4:06:40 GMT -5
Moderator Post
Hello everyone. Just thought I'd clear up something. The gaysofdaytime blog is a separate but affiliated site. On THIS board, clips are mostly posted by your fellow members. Not just by moderators. So...if someone here finds another YT channel or edits videos more to your liking then you are welcome to post them in the appropriate thread.
No one here or at the blog is "censoring" any part of the storyline.
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 20, 2010 14:31:02 GMT -5
The new spoilers for SOC looks great. It's also looking more and more like Noah might leave town after he finds out about LuRe/SnyDr. That could be the time away for Noah that the soap mags were reporting on.
By the way, any Reid fans that want to send postcards to the studio and the soap mags to support Reid can do so easily from the postcard blog I set up. The postcards are printed professionally and mailed in for you the next day and you can send one for free, international fans can send too. The link is in my profile. I'll have a new Luke/Reid postcard ready to send this week too! ;D
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Post by Zathras on Mar 20, 2010 16:09:21 GMT -5
Very well could be that Noah leaves, although that spoiler is pretty vague (as usual).
I wonder how far in the future the "decide to go for it" happens. Maybe 4-6 weeks?
Also, we need to settle on a nickname for Luke&Reid ;D.
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Post by Lostaway on Mar 20, 2010 16:35:58 GMT -5
So, since Reid is the coolest thing to happen to ATWT in a long time, I made a quick video with some of his best snarky lines. I left a lot of good ones out because there were so many, but I hope you enjoy!
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Post by wirshari on Mar 20, 2010 17:23:13 GMT -5
I haven't been watching ATWT videos assiduously for a while now. Then I heard about the Luke/Reid pairing possibility and decided to catch up, now I haven't caught up totally but after watching a few videos I needed to get an idea out of my mind so here goes, apologies for the rambling. The thing with Luke and Noah is that unlike most soap couples, they have not been through what supercouples go through which is breaking up getting together breaking up ... So getting someone that really challenges their love(the twins and Mason don't count) is perfect. The ideal is a character having two great loves that has supporters on both sides, keeping things interesting. Now this will never be easy and there will be a fan outcry that is normal and expected, I mean Lily had Holden and Damien fighting for her, Holden has Molly and Lily. Jack has Carley and Janet.
Luke needs a strong counter point, someone who is willing and able to stand up to him, he flourishes when he has to fight for something. At first both he and Noah had strong characters, but without a challenge they grew complacent. Noah seems to take Luke for granted that not only will he always be there but that no matter what he decides Luke will follow. Luke on the other hand understands that relationships can end even if people love each other(his parents are a perfect example), so he seems more invested in preventing this from happening(even clingy).
That is why if he and Reid get together it will bring back the excitement. Reid is a strong person complex and difficult to read a constant challenge and with Noah hopefully realizing that Luke is worth fighting for this could lead to months of tension, fighting and drama, perfect for soaps. Now in relation to how it could pan out, depends on the writers. Even if the confusion lasts until the last week of the soap airing, they could do a flash forward and show Luke choosing either of them in the last episode or Luke and Reid forming a couple and Noah saddened leaves to become a famous director(his dream) only to realize a few years later that leaving Luke is his biggest regret and returns to fight for him (I know, I know I just changed the name from Damien to Noah but the idea is the same).
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 20, 2010 18:07:04 GMT -5
So, since Reid is the coolest thing to happen to ATWT in a long time, I made a quick video with some of his best snarky lines. I left a lot of good ones out because there were so many, but I hope you enjoy! OMG! I love your video lostaway!!! Thank you for posting this. ;D
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Post by stregatta on Mar 20, 2010 18:11:30 GMT -5
I haven't been watching ATWT videos assiduously for a while now. Then I heard about the Luke/Reid pairing possibility and decided to catch up, now I haven't caught up totally but after watching a few videos I needed to get an idea out of my mind so here goes, apologies for the rambling. The thing with Luke and Noah is that unlike most soap couples, they have not been through what supercouples go through which is breaking up getting together breaking up ... So getting someone that really challenges their love(the twins and Mason don't count) is perfect. The ideal is a character having two great loves that has supporters on both sides, keeping things interesting. Now this will never be easy and there will be a fan outcry that is normal and expected, I mean Lily had Holden and Damien fighting for her, Holden has Molly and Lily. Jack has Carley and Janet. Luke needs a strong counter point, someone who is willing and able to stand up to him, he flourishes when he has to fight for something. At first both he and Noah had strong characters, but without a challenge they grew complacent. Noah seems to take Luke for granted that not only will he always be there but that no matter what he decides Luke will follow. Luke on the other hand understands that relationships can end even if people love each other(his parents are a perfect example), so he seems more invested in preventing this from happening(even clingy). That is why if he and Reid get together it will bring back the excitement. Reid is a strong person complex and difficult to read a constant challenge and with Noah hopefully realizing that Luke is worth fighting for this could lead to months of tension, fighting and drama, perfect for soaps. Now in relation to how it could pan out, depends on the writers. Even if the confusion lasts until the last week of the soap airing, they could do a flash forward and show Luke choosing either of them in the last episode or Luke and Reid forming a couple and Noah saddened leaves to become a famous director(his dream) only to realize a few years later that leaving Luke is his biggest regret and returns to fight for him (I know, I know I just changed the name from Damien to Noah but the idea is the same). I AGREE ABOUT EVERY WORD YOU'VE WRITTEN!!! Especially the ending, you've read my mind....I'm waiting for a jump ahead in time, to make things interesing till the very finale. I see Dr Badass a little like House , as to say PERFECT for doing a mess in a soap like this: he could touch all the right buttons, to drop a real bomb on the balance which keep Nuke together (more or less)...& even if you love them, you've to love drama & "adult romance" enough to enjoy this bumpy ride! I guess in the end, everyone will be happy to have watched something worth it!! I'm really curious now...Fasten the seatbelts, here we go!! Ciao ;D
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Post by zengeos on Mar 22, 2010 6:21:01 GMT -5
Also, we need to settle on a nickname for Luke&Reid ;D. Well...several names come to mind, depending on whether you like them as a couple or not. Allured (for those who like Luke/Reid)..a play on Alluring LuRid (I know..missing an e!) for those who dislike them Could also call then Reiduke
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 22, 2010 15:18:04 GMT -5
^^^ A lot of people are calling them LuRe, which I think is very fitting and I really like a it lot. I also have a liking for SnyDr too.
Congratulations to Eric, he was ranked as the number 2 actor to watch on this week's TV Guide Soapgeist! ;D
Top 5 Actors to Watch: 1. Michael Muhney (Adam, Y&R) 2. Eric Sheffer Stevens (Dr. Reid, World Turns) 3. Maurice Benard (Sonny, GH) 4. Wally Kurth (Justin, DAYS) 5. James Scott (EJ, DAYS)
Also, Luke and Reid were ranked as the #1 dream couple!!! ;D
Top 3 Dream Couples: 1. Reid and Luke, World Turns 2. David and Kim, One Life 3. David and Kelly, One Life
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Post by dalia on Mar 23, 2010 7:45:09 GMT -5
wow that is so cool!!! especially about dream couple! totally OT : but i love Michael Muhney. i stopped watching Y&R, but my mom still watches and even though Adam is supposed to be a despicable villainous character you still totally root for him! k back to LuRe...
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 24, 2010 14:29:32 GMT -5
Preview for Thursday 3/25 episode
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Post by luckyduck152 on Mar 24, 2010 22:23:12 GMT -5
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Post by shamelessfan on Mar 25, 2010 8:58:23 GMT -5
I like the way his character has a story that's not just about his being in a relationship. If only others understood how to use gay characters in this way.
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