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Post by Bonobochick on Mar 30, 2008 12:53:25 GMT -5
Please discuss the character here. ;D
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Post by Bonobochick on Mar 30, 2008 14:05:26 GMT -5
Hot mess! He's an absolute mess! I don't think he's in love with Vanessa but I think he's afraid of his feelings for Roman and also he doesn't want to be gay.
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Post by Simone on Apr 1, 2008 13:31:58 GMT -5
LOL! Don't hold bad. Tell us how you really feel about Deniz, bonobochick.
I do find it weird that Deniz declares that he is gay and then goes back in the closet. I think that writers should have had him get involved with Vanessa out of denial of being gay and his attraction to Roman before he acknowledged that he is gay. The way things look now Deniz, Roman and Vanessa all come off pathetic.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 1, 2008 15:34:14 GMT -5
LOL! Don't hold bad. Tell us how you really feel about Deniz, bonobochick. I do find it weird that Deniz declares that he is gay and then goes back in the closet. I think that writers should have had him get involved with Vanessa out of denial of being gay and his attraction to Roman before he acknowledged that he is gay. The way things look now Deniz, Roman and Vanessa all come off pathetic. I find myself watching him and just shaking my head. When Deniz is with Vanessa, it's like he's got all the qualifications of being her boyfriend except it is fairly obvious he's not remotely sexually attracted to her. When he's with Roman, the sexual tension is off the charts but he often comes off like a deer in the headlights or befuddled by his own feelings. The one thing I think Deniz isn't confused about is his sexuality but everything else? Totally. Hot mess! |
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 9, 2008 15:41:36 GMT -5
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Post by amber80 on Apr 9, 2008 15:44:58 GMT -5
Wow! That's a really, really nice screencap... ;D
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 9, 2008 15:53:08 GMT -5
Wow! That's a really, really nice screencap... ;D I'm sorry, I'd passed out for a moment.  |
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Post by mattnjacob on Jun 17, 2008 14:18:24 GMT -5
On the All that Matters wiki page, under Deniz Oztuerk's character recap it's listed "was gay" LOL I love when people put that. Like...oops, it didn't stick. He's no longer gay. You gotta love Wiki. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alles_was_zaehlt |
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Post by mattnjacob on Jun 19, 2008 12:50:37 GMT -5
 Smokin' in so many ways! |
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Post by denizislove on Jul 28, 2008 11:54:35 GMT -5
I hope Deniz gets his act together soon  |
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Post by Aldi on Oct 28, 2008 21:51:40 GMT -5
Question: What's the word on the street re: Deniz's sexual experience pre-Roman? Do we know if he ever actually slept with a girl before Vanessa? With all the strutting and super-macho attitude he had going on in the early episodes, it's hard to tell. I mean, you'd think that a very handsome and perpetually horny 17-year-old would have got some at some point, even if (or especially if) he was just trying to convince himself he was into girls... but with Deniz and his big mouth it's one of those things where he could just have been bragging all along and was actually a complete virgin, lol. Is there definite word on that?
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Post by darcolover55 on Oct 28, 2008 22:27:24 GMT -5
I'd say he was a virgin giving how much trouble he had with Nina
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Post by Bonobochick on Oct 29, 2008 11:53:05 GMT -5
Question: What's the word on the street re: Deniz's sexual experience pre-Roman? Do we know if he ever actually slept with a girl before Vanessa? With all the strutting and super-macho attitude he had going on in the early episodes, it's hard to tell. I mean, you'd think that a very handsome and perpetually horny 17-year-old would have got some at some point, even if (or especially if) he was just trying to convince himself he was into girls... but with Deniz and his big mouth it's one of those things where he could just have been bragging all along and was actually a complete virgin, lol. Is there definite word on that? Someone told me that Deniz mentioned he'd had sex with other women before he got to town and kind of fooled around with some guys on a lighter scale before getting involved with Roman (and that's why he knew he preferred the touch of a man over a woman's). That's my 2p but I don't know more than that. I always took the fact that he couldn't get it up for Nina as testament to his complete lack of interest in her sexually. Unlike with Vanessa, who he did actually care about, Nina was never more than a diversion from being bullied by Bulle, IMO. Deniz could never seem to even fake enthusiasm over the prospect of being with Nina sexually/romantically. YMMV. |
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Post by lolaruns on Oct 29, 2008 12:07:13 GMT -5
Sadly it's no longer accessible, but the old f*ghad board somebody posted transcripts from an official book that AWZ gave out that is written from the POV of the characters (I think it's about somebody doing a book on Diana and interviewing all her friends). They asked both Roman and Deniz (as well as all other characters) about their first time. I think Deniz answer was something along the lines that it only lasted about 10 seconds. Sadly the link is gone since the site switched boards.
Anyway, it's probably a moot point anyway since who knows how "canon" one can consider a book like that.
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Post by Gabi on Oct 29, 2008 12:39:25 GMT -5
AFAIK Deniz never said he actually had sex with girls before. What he said was, they were flirting with chicks at a party or something when another boy asked how it felt when two boys kiss (scene with Vanessa at the tennis table ). And he said to Roman he knows how "it" works with women, but he didn't say he had any experiences himself. (same location, Unzertrennlich scene).
Don't recall any other scene. Personally I think he was just bragging and never had sex before - Roman was his First Time.
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Post by Aldi on Oct 29, 2008 13:42:45 GMT -5
Yeah, he never did say straight out that he'd actually had sex with any of the girls he was bragging about. I just translated the scene at the ping-pong table with Vanessa and that wasn't anything more specific than "picking up girls" and kissing the boy in question once. And I also took the "knowing how it works with women" comment as more theoretical knowledge. It's just that even though he was obviously not particularly interested in sex with girls, I would have thought he'd at least made himself go through with it once or twice because he was still deeply in denial about being gay. So that's an interesting point about that book, Lola. Danke! |
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Post by darcolover55 on Oct 29, 2008 18:12:53 GMT -5
I AM SO RIGHT THERE WITH YOU GREENWICH GRRL. Song Choice EXCELLENT!
Even though I had a moment of thinking "DAMN ROMAN LOOKS GOOD" even in his emotional and physical misery.
I still had this pit in my stomach from beginning to end of the clip.
Igor gives excellent "so conflicted i don't know if i wanna vomit or cry" face
As mad as I was at Marian, It was hard to watch him struggle with his entire upbringing and bigoted cultural beliefs while simultaneously worrying about his son and trying so hard to figure out how to help him.
What would these men do without Vanessa, Annette and Nadja. Egads it doesn't bare thinking about.
My heart totally stopped when Deniz had the little sad smile of memory on his face while he was talking to Vanessa about his past.
And can I just say, knowing this part of their history together now, Vanessa's later behavior makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE WHATSOEVER! as if a girl could go through this with a friend and then later on think DATING HIM is a good idea!)
Now I totally understand where everyone is coming from with their frustration about the later events. This first part is just so brilliantly done.
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Post by darcolover55 on Oct 29, 2008 18:16:12 GMT -5
I agree Gabi, I think every teen "knows" how it works with a man and a woman anatomically speaking whether they are gay or straight. I don't think it's uncommon for a teenage boy to still be a virgin at 17. They are so all talk at that age.
Plus I think if he'd had sex with a girl before and was comfortable with it, he would definitely have had sex with Nina since the whole point of doing so was to prove to himself that he WASN'T gay.
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Post by cheerios on Apr 19, 2010 21:13:37 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what is Deniz's family situation? I know he has a close relationship with his father Marian, but where is his mother? Is he an only child or does he have siblings?
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Post by Zathras on Apr 19, 2010 21:24:15 GMT -5
I can't give a good history, but I can help a little bit . I'm going from memory here, so it's a bit foggy  . They talk about Deniz's family situation a little in the mid-200's (according to my notes, she shows up in Essen in #249). Deniz was living with his mom (I don't remember where), and then came to visit Marian. If I remember correctly, his mom basically "dumped" Deniz on Marian. Not sure if she just didn't want to deal with him anymore  . Deniz and Marian had a bit of a rocky time at first, but they've grown a lot closer, especially when Deniz started falling for Roman (the first time). For some reason, I want to say that Deniz has a younger brother. Don't remember for sure  . |
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Post by praderwilli on Apr 19, 2010 21:29:14 GMT -5
cheerios, Deniz's parents are divorced. His mother appeared in episodes 249 & 250 of the DeRo 1.0 timeline. She was having trouble with Deniz and wanted to sign away custody to Marian. She also had a shiny new man in her life and *really* didn't want Deniz to come back home with her.
I think she was living in Munich? Not sure on that. Deniz also has a younger brother. It would be nice if he came to live in Essen, imo.
Edited to add: Oops, Zathras is way faster than I am. ;D
Edited again: I went and watched the clips and Deniz is definitely from Munich. I don't know if his mom and brother still live there. I don't know little brother's name either.
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Post by cheerios on Jul 2, 2010 16:33:16 GMT -5
That would be interesting to see Deniz's younger brother come and visit with Florian around. That is something I would like to see.
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Post by nryabenko on Nov 8, 2013 22:07:41 GMT -5
Does anyone have Roman and Deniz from the beginning. I can't find it on Youtube.
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