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Post by joanna on Jan 19, 2010 16:49:24 GMT -5
As Nanna isn't subbing that second vid...What is it Christian says from behind the door in that scene of him in the Native American costume...and also just before he walks over to that pot plant?
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Post by kes on Jan 19, 2010 16:56:02 GMT -5
maybe there is another (illegitimate) mann brother?! maybe he's gonna usurp gregor as the eldest and start looking out for the little one?! The possibilities are interesting, nu?
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Post by andre on Jan 19, 2010 18:18:46 GMT -5
@ Kes, sorry for the late reply It was another boy living in their street, not their father. I believe Gregor mentioned that Wolfgang was a few years his senior. This seems significant to me -- in a good way. I am hoping that they are building something interesting into the plot. Thanks for the information!!!!! I very much appreciate all you do! As much as I understood was this Wolfgang-story only there to give Luise an idea to find "big brothers" for those children living in the orphanage. (They organized a photoshoot to make a placard.) She got that parallel from the relationship between Mann-brothers and Wolfgang. But I halfway zoned out at GreLu-stuff, so correct me, if I'm wrong.
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Post by kes on Jan 19, 2010 18:43:43 GMT -5
This seems significant to me -- in a good way. I am hoping that they are building something interesting into the plot. Thanks for the information!!!!! I very much appreciate all you do! As much as I understood was this Wolfgang-story only there to give Luise an idea to find "big brothers" for those children living in the orphanage. (They organized a photoshoot to make a placard.) She got that parallel from the relationship between Mann-brothers and Wolfgang. But I halfway zoned out at GreLu-stuff, so correct me, if I'm wrong. Andre, I try to find drama where I can get it, even if it is a reach.
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Post by stregatta on Jan 19, 2010 19:21:53 GMT -5
the rapist bit - was that guy drunk?! or just driven wild by The Plank's inescapably sexy charms?! i know it was contrived so david could step in and play hero (man, i LOVE david!) - but seriously?! do they just abandon realism at the door when it comes to script writing for VL now?! or even just blocking - that was full on sexual harassment and no one thinks to call the police?! and i liked imaginarychristian, i hate to admit it. it was nice to see something a little different, and unusual - safely within the realm of rebecca's unfettered imagination... favourite bit of today; chrolli behaving like a couple for the first time in ever!! ;D Aren't you happy boy?! At least a little of good action! However I was sure too, than nothing bad would have happened in the end...IMO, the guy (mmhhh, good looking2! ) in reality wasn't drunk, simply sure of his charm,'cause he was quite "a name" in that business, uh? & he "gets what he pleases"... Like that old scene where Olli had to be "nice" with that gourmet-reviewer, to have kind things written for his pub (club now? Ok, whatever it's meant to be! Probably nowadays Mr NoLimits is more lively that some other characters...LOL?! ) Last but not least, can I only add that I've liked the sweet final scene Becca+David?! It's 1 of the 1st times I've forgotten the bad things about her...I'm even more sure now that nothing wrong with happen with Christian, apart from misunderstandings...Writers are using Rebecca's character only to mess up a bit the future course of the plot...Ciao* PS- Vielen Danke x Sonnenschein+ Joanna! Our dream-team (with the add of all the other precious friends here! )
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Post by tihkon2 on Jan 19, 2010 20:03:44 GMT -5
Today's clip with English Subtitles. Danke Nanna!
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Post by Flippityfloppityflip on Jan 19, 2010 21:28:51 GMT -5
Sorry to say it, but I'm not keen on specific episode threads. I might look on them a bit more favourably if they are about particularly awesome episodes like 4.4.08 and the like. But episodes like this one, which in my humble opinion are a bit lack lustre just don't cut it for me. I think the problem is that the feedback gets a bit disjointed between episode thread and the general discussion thread and the general discussion thread gets diluted. I appreciate what you are trying to do Joanna, but although it may be a minority opinion, it's just how I feel.
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Post by paracelcious on Jan 19, 2010 22:21:33 GMT -5
I finally watched today's episode, and THANK GOD I read some of the comments before, becasue I nearly jumped out of my skin when Christian approached Rebecca to dance. Then I realized, I really don't like Christian dancing with a girl, it seems so odd and akward. He just did not feel comfortable.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 19, 2010 22:53:44 GMT -5
I finally watched today's episode, and THANK GOD I read some of the comments before, becasue I nearly jumped out of my skin when Christian approached Rebecca to dance. Then I realized, I really don't like Christian dancing with a girl, it seems so odd and akward. He just did not feel comfortable. omg, for realllll, during that whole scene (the only time I actually sat thru the whole thing) I was literally cringing at the weirdness and awkwardness...Christian just BELONGS with Olli, its a simple fact. They compliment each other so well and when they're in a scene together, doesn't have to be a love scene, its like magical..its so cheesy but its trueee, they were just meant to fucking be. Christian and Rebecca will NEVER have that kind of heart-stopping, mouth-drying, stomach-flipping magic that Chrolli have. Its just one of those things where you either have it or you dont. Christian and rebecca just plain DON'T.
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Post by brownsugar on Jan 19, 2010 23:02:04 GMT -5
That was so freaky watching Christian dance so intimately with Rebecca. Yes it was Rebecca daydreaming but it's just left me with that cringe worthy feeling. I think Rebecca is bordering on the hedge here. I'm sure she's already had dreams of Christian making love to her and not Olli. This is becoming dangerously close to stalker like behavior. She is already out of touch with the reality of the situation. Hell...she just witnessed Olli talk about his deep love for Christian and then witnessed them both looking perfectly in love but still she had visions of Christian in love with her. And it's so true that Jasmine Lord and Thore have zero on screen chemistry.
I loved Olli's enthusiasm and giddiness at his pending party. And I loved seeing him be so thankful that he has a gorgeous boyfriend who loves him and he can rely on. Ahhh...Olli is still like a teenager in love when it comes to Christian. ;D
Thank you so much nanna and tihkon for the subs. Thank you joanna and Sonnenschein for all of your hard work and time.
Two episodes in a row...granted with Rebecca still in the stew, but there is no escaping her. Still, it's so nice to get some good Ollian screen time.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 19, 2010 23:13:51 GMT -5
It seriously was freaky, like really really unsettling..... like, I've never felt so uncomfortable in my whole life, lol. but ur right, brownsugar, Olli is soo much like a teenager in love, its so flippin cute Especially after almost 2 years to be that giddy and happy when ur boyfriend walks into the room, thats just amazing Even tho we get a shitload of nasty rebecca, at least we're getting some good Chrolli time I'm not complaining! oh and i didn't realize u replied to my earlier post, brownsugar, thank you! ;D ;D
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Post by brownsugar on Jan 19, 2010 23:13:50 GMT -5
I finally watched today's episode, and THANK GOD I read some of the comments before, becasue I nearly jumped out of my skin when Christian approached Rebecca to dance. Then I realized, I really don't like Christian dancing with a girl, it seems so odd and akward. He just did not feel comfortable. omg, for realllll, during that whole scene (the only time I actually sat thru the whole thing) I was literally cringing at the weirdness and awkwardness...Christian just BELONGS with Olli, its a simple fact. They compliment each other so well and when they're in a scene together, doesn't have to be a love scene, its like magical..its so cheesy but its trueee, they were just meant to fucking be. Christian and Rebecca will NEVER have that kind of heart-stopping, mouth-drying, stomach-flipping magic that Chrolli have. Its just one of those things where you either have it or you dont. Christian and rebecca just plain DON'T. chrolli...your post is the perfect definition of what Olli and Christian are...and Rebecca and Christian will never be. Olli and Christian are a...till death us do part...type of couple. The type of love that they share will never be achieved with another person. They are indeed..."heart-stopping, mouth-drying, stomach-flipping magic" Perfectly stated. ;D
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Post by mitsaso on Jan 20, 2010 2:15:06 GMT -5
Okay I watched all of today's clips, I need to point out some stuff: 1) Rebecca's daydream was FREAKY...!!! BUT... it's pretty positive that even the FREAKY promo pic (that creeped out us spoiler-whores some time back) of Rebecca and Christian hugging tight and dreamy-like turned out to be a daydream, huh? 2) The rapist guy is HOT!!! Rebecca, you daft bitch, why did you have to be so frigid? I would have put out for him lol 3) How FORCED was the Dabecca rapist scene? I mean, let's think about it... you're a successful professional... you walk in a bar in the afternoon to DO BUSINESS, you see some girl there, and within 2 minutes you ALMOST RAPE HER? Anyone could walk in, I'm just saying... this screams out how forced and tacked on the scene was... which is good, because they must REALLY want to make DaBecca happen... or maybe, if that scene, because of the forced-ness, looks more like an afterthought than the start of a real SL, maybe it's bad for us... 4)...which makes me think: The start of a possible Chribecca storyline: Becca steps on horse shit, slips on the ground, Christian elbows her in the face (priceless!)... he just stands over her and doesnt even really check if she's okay (as if he was some stranger who was passing by and doesn't really care about her)... then she wakes up and sees Christian with a nice light behind... NOW SHE LOVES HIM VS The start of a possible Dabecca storyline: Becca gets almost raped by some guy (no matter how out of the blue that was)... David saves her... she gives him a little peck (I'd prefer a french kiss but it would be too much)...NOW HE LOVES HER Now which of those scenes seems more romantic? Mr.I-elbowed-you-in-the-face-like-the-klutz-that-I-am-and-now-I'm-shouting-from-a-safe-distance-to-see-if-you're-okay-ooo look at the pretty light ORMr. I-totally-saved-you-from-a-hot-rapist-I'm-your-knight-in-shining-armor-now-give-us-a-kiss ?? I think it's obvious which couple the writers are aiming for, right? P.S. Gregor needs a spanking. IT'S YOUR FRICKING BAR, GIVE OLLI A HAND, sheesh! but I'll go easy on him because he looks hot in the footie uniform, tee hee! ;D
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Post by joanna on Jan 20, 2010 10:32:21 GMT -5
Sorry to say it, but I'm not keen on specific episode threads. I might look on them a bit more favourably if they are about particularly awesome episodes like 4.4.08 and the like. But episodes like this one, which in my humble opinion are a bit lack lustre just don't cut it for me. I think the problem is that the feedback gets a bit disjointed between episode thread and the general discussion thread and the general discussion thread gets diluted. I appreciate what you are trying to do Joanna, but although it may be a minority opinion, it's just how I feel. That's okay. I totally respect your opinion on this. What prompted me to start the dedicated threads again was hearing from someone who put to me the idea of restarting them. And, from what they said, it seemed that, though there hadn't been posting on the board about it, there were a fair few people who would really love for them to get going again. So it wasn't just this one person wanting it. And I started with yesterday's episode because us spoiler-reading bods knew there might be a fair bit of Chrolli in the episode. You also don't know, though, until it airs, precisely everything that amounts to - both in screen time and total content (though from preview watching, you do have something to go by). Well, because we've got the huge NL party today, where we first meet event manager/not quite as he seems Robert and where an uncomfortable Christian 'disappears' from the party, I was going to do one for today's episode.... It'd be helpful, then, if people could post here to let me know if they'd like an eppy thread for today's ep. Obviously need to know as soon as poss what people think.x PS: Danke, tihkon/Nanna! Loved Olli's lil speech on his love for Christian. 'Really something special' and 'great fit' indeed.
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Post by thunderkat on Jan 20, 2010 10:35:56 GMT -5
I guess personally i prefer it being in line w. the gen-thread, but not to the point where the separate ep thread bothers me or anything. so my opinion probably doesn't help you decide because i'm 60-40 in favor of the gen thread.
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Post by jasmineg on Jan 20, 2010 11:05:58 GMT -5
I'm in favour of ep threads because it keeps things more organised and makes it easier to come back later and find caps and discussion pertaining to a certain episode.
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Post by joanna on Jan 20, 2010 11:46:34 GMT -5
Thanks for your thoughts on this, everyone (including paracelcious from the gen thread). Be great to hear a few more before 5pm (UK time...6pm in Germany). Hmm...well, there are both people that really like them (that's going by not just Jasmine's post but from what I've heard off board) and people who don't so much at all. Hmmmm. Well, for the spoiler reasons I mentioned in the ep thread (ie this being Robert's opening episode...the Robert who's going to play a very important role in Chrolli terms) , I think today's episode is worthy of its own thread. If I could hear something from others, though, on what they think about these dedicated threads, then hopefully that will give me a clear indication of whether to even bother doing any more in the first place. The above is only just going off what I've heard so far.
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Post by sylstyle on Jan 20, 2010 12:03:54 GMT -5
I'm in favour of ep threads because it keeps things more organised and makes it easier to come back later and find caps and discussion pertaining to a certain episode. I do totally agree on that I find it easier. Furthermore I'd say lets celebrate I mean it's not every day we have the chance to have Chrolli as plot A or B Joanna I think you had a great idea and I think today you should go on Sylvain
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Post by joanna on Jan 20, 2010 12:08:22 GMT -5
I do totally agree on that I find it easier. Furthermore I'd say lets celebrate I mean it's not every day we have the chance to have Chrolli as plot A or B Joanna I think you had a great idea and I think today you should go on Sylvain Aw, danke, Sylvain. Well, (for spoilery reasons already outlined) I've decided to set one up for today's episode and so it can just all be taken from there.x
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Post by stefthepest on Jan 20, 2010 14:05:01 GMT -5
Thank you Joanna for your great idea and for all your continued hard work on putting up the caps, the videos etc. I think it's great to be able to comment on an individual episode and to hear other people's opinions. Keep up the good work!
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Post by silverkitsune33 on Jan 20, 2010 23:43:58 GMT -5
I thought seeing Olli blow up at Christian was interesting because it reminded me of Christian's freak out before his boxing match back in the day. (Granted Olli buying sushi, and Christian breaking a turntable aren't exactly mutually exclusive, but the intensity was equal on both sides)
I'm really that Olli is so in love with owning No Limits. To have a dream that doesn't involve Christian makes him a fuller character to me.
Now if Gregor would just remember that he owns the freaking place too...... Thank you for the caps!
And thank you Nanna for the clips!
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Post by Zam on Jan 21, 2010 2:32:51 GMT -5
Just getting caught up with the eps on the DE site. I thought I watched this ep pretty closely, but apparently not. I must have missed a particular Lahnstein who appears in the closing credits. SPOILER: xxxxNICOxxxx Of course, those have been so screwy lately anyway, with the decision of who is in them and who isn't. Miriam (love her!) only has to walk by Olli at NL to get a listing in the closing credits, but Luca, the other waiter, and Eduard's lawyer for example carry scenes but don't get acknowledged at the end. It's wierd. Mitsaso, I completely agree with your analysis of the non-sensical near-rape scene. The guy was hot, but the scene was sooooo bad. And then expecting that David would look at Rebecca "that way" after what she just went through two minutes ago! Yikes! Is Rebecca in heat or something, and now every man who gets near her suddenly gets a boner? Christian, Olli, David, and handsome-psycho-unbelievable-rapist-guy? Maybe Rebecca needs to go hang out with Tristan.
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