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Post by lugia on Jan 18, 2010 18:09:03 GMT -5
Are you not getting sound with the new sneak peek, either? It's so annoying that it again just shows the scene from the preview! Even the preview had more Ollian material!
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Post by joanna on Jan 18, 2010 18:11:30 GMT -5
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Post by mona on Jan 18, 2010 18:13:17 GMT -5
Why is Christian always in flirting mood with Rebecca? I really don't get that. That way she - of course - thinks they have a connection or something going on. But it doesn't fit for Christian at all. But I don't think he honestly means that so what is it: Fun? Thinking Rebecca is a little girl? Getting into this "gay guy" thing to flirt with woman without thinking anything while doing it? But leaving the NL and staring more at her apparently (if I got that right) than at his boyfriend is odd. Or was that gesture for Olli who seems to stand there too and she's again misunderstanding something? Sometimes I think this is really just a parody. Rebecca loving the gay guy very extreme. I don't think we have to think he has interest in her. But I miss some things between Ollian like when they had the air kisses(?) phase. I really think either it's meant to be overacted (to get he's oblivious) or Thore is too much into the scenes and almost plays it like the freshly in love phase. But overall, it's not even not good anymore but really creepy.
and again I think: With Olli in Christians place all this would even work! He's the type to flirt with women just because it's fun.
But that's what was my fear for all this. Christian seems more interested to make Rebecca happy than Olli. I just don't get it.
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Post by joanna on Jan 18, 2010 18:13:17 GMT -5
Are you not getting sound with the new sneak peek, either? Sound is working for me, Lugia. I find the cap quality actually quite fitting for this scene, btw...
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Post by final81 on Jan 18, 2010 18:27:17 GMT -5
I am guessing Rebecca think Christian is winking at her but he is really winking at Olli.
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Post by mona on Jan 18, 2010 18:29:16 GMT -5
The official website seems to focus on David as "Retter in der Not". (her hero?) Not that bad even though we still don't know how far Chribecca can go even if David is her endgame. But it's exactly what we feared for Chribecca when we didn't know the exact spoilers. to look at it realistic that is VLs way to say "one true love". but then why the cheesy picture? I thought at first he would then do something else in Ollis direction but the wink seems to be for her from that angle.
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Post by lugia on Jan 18, 2010 18:29:56 GMT -5
Are you not getting sound with the new sneak peek, either? Sound is working for me, Lugia. I find the cap quality actually quite fitting for this scene, btw... I'm sorry, I guess my computer froze or something. It was working fine after reboot! Summary: Ansgar, on the phone with his PI, discovers that it's a problem to redo the trial in Germany. He doesn't care if a murder case ruins the reputation. Ludwig interrupts him, but apparently didn't hear anything. Ansgar locks Ludwig's confession in. Christian compliments Rebecca on her decorations: "Looks super!" He touches her and she almost falls off the ladder. Olli walks past them and doesn't notice anything. He asks Christian if he didn't want to pick up the vodka. Christian starts to leave. Olli comments too that Rebecca's work looks super. Christian winks at her. Luise is still dwelling on her friend Eduard's mad state. Gregor thinks he was more than a "good friend" to her. She says he maybe wasn't her great love, to which he replies "maybe?", but they were close. Gregor thinks you can be wrong about people. But she knows he wasn't like that before, it's due to her leaving him. Gregor reassures her it's not her fault. She isn't so sure about that. He tells her he doesn't have the right to make her life a living hell just because she hurt him once. And that he's in prison now is his doing alone. He thinks they should look ahead already and enjoy their lives! Ansgar discovers that Ludwig's confession is gone. He thinks that Ludwig took it. He won't give up that easily, he will keep looking for something against him. In reality, Maria took it.
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Post by blondeninjagirl on Jan 18, 2010 18:50:21 GMT -5
Why is Christian always in flirting mood with Rebecca? I really don't get that. That way she - of course - thinks they have a connection or something going on. But it doesn't fit for Christian at all. But I don't think he honestly means that so what is it: Fun? Thinking Rebecca is a little girl? Getting into this "gay guy" thing to flirt with woman without thinking anything while doing it? But leaving the NL and staring more at her apparently (if I got that right) than at his boyfriend is odd. Or was that gesture for Olli who seems to stand there too and she's again misunderstanding something? Sometimes I think this is really just a parody. Rebecca loving the gay guy very extreme. I don't think we have to think he has interest in her. But I miss some things between Ollian like when they had the air kisses(?) phase. I really think either it's meant to be overacted (to get he's oblivious) or Thore is too much into the scenes and almost plays it like the freshly in love phase. But overall, it's not even not good anymore but really creepy. and again I think: With Olli in Christians place all this would even work! He's the type to flirt with women just because it's fun. But that's what was my fear for all this. Christian seems more interested to make Rebecca happy than Olli. I just don't get it. Its true that its more in character for Olli than Christian to act this way around others. And this bugs a lot of people. But I don't think Thore is playing to well into the scenes, he can play a flirty gay guy too just like when he played around with the clothes Olli and Rebecca went shopping for. Maybe if he smiled when doing these winks or playing caring big brother we would see it differently. Just comparing when Jo does it. But then again it could be intentional to make us the audience squirm. Evil writers.
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Post by joanna on Jan 18, 2010 19:03:56 GMT -5
I am guessing Rebecca think Christian is winking at her but he is really winking at Olli. I wondered that, but he appears to be looking right at her when he does it... I'm befuzzled!!
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Post by joanna on Jan 18, 2010 19:06:31 GMT -5
Hmmm...*grasps at Chrolli straws*...though perhaps she 'imagines' him winking at her...then we see the wink as it was really meant: for Olli. So another 'daydream' moment, perhaps?...........
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Post by jj8899 on Jan 18, 2010 19:16:31 GMT -5
Why is Christian always in flirting mood with Rebecca? I really don't get that. That way she - of course - thinks they have a connection or something going on. But it doesn't fit for Christian at all. But I don't think he honestly means that so what is it: Fun? Thinking Rebecca is a little girl? Getting into this "gay guy" thing to flirt with woman without thinking anything while doing it? But leaving the NL and staring more at her apparently (if I got that right) than at his boyfriend is odd. Or was that gesture for Olli who seems to stand there too and she's again misunderstanding something? Sometimes I think this is really just a parody. Rebecca loving the gay guy very extreme. I don't think we have to think he has interest in her. But I miss some things between Ollian like when they had the air kisses(?) phase. I really think either it's meant to be overacted (to get he's oblivious) or Thore is too much into the scenes and almost plays it like the freshly in love phase. But overall, it's not even not good anymore but really creepy. and again I think: With Olli in Christians place all this would even work! He's the type to flirt with women just because it's fun. But that's what was my fear for all this. Christian seems more interested to make Rebecca happy than Olli. I just don't get it. Its true that its more in character for Olli than Christian to act this way around others. And this bugs a lot of people. But I don't think Thore is playing to well into the scenes, he can play a flirty gay guy too just like when he played around with the clothes Olli and Rebecca went shopping for. Maybe if he smiled when doing these winks or playing caring big brother we would see it differently. Just comparing when Jo does it. But then again it could be intentional to make us the audience squirm. Evil writers. i'm just gonna say what i think and feel, because i'm in that sort of mood where i just belch stuff out. but i don't want to offend anyone so i'm just going to preface this with the very big "THIS IS ONLY MY SKEWED OPINION" opening sentence. and there's lots of reasons why my feelings on the subject might be skewed and/or bent... ;D okay so, i feel like, if they had given this SL to jo it would have worked better for me. and that's assuming chribecca is the unrequited girl-falls-for-gay-friend-unsuccessfully. purely because rebecca comes across as more of a threat when she's paired with christian. and i think, for me, that has a lot to do with the way thore portrays christian and the choices he makes. his real life heterosexual presence is a really huge undercurrent to me (its sort of part of why chrolli works for me, the idea that the 'straight' boy could turn around and fall for you : - and part of that is my fault, i have gobbled up way too many interviews and press pieces where he's waxed lyrical about how UNgay he is and that doesn't offend me or even slightly bother me about him... but it is definitely something that comes across for me. whether jo, usually is much more discreet. and so less of him paints who olli is. i've said this before but - it isn't bad the difference between thore and jo's acting styles, it's just what it is - different. but for me, thats part of the reason why the chribecca SL is such a threat. and it's not just the way thore is playing it, or failing to play it. but the way the writers see christian as well. i don't know. i'm just musing over things and i wondered about other people's opinions. okay i'll shut up now... ;D
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Post by blondeninjagirl on Jan 18, 2010 19:58:35 GMT -5
i'm just gonna say what i think and feel, because i'm in that sort of mood where i just belch stuff out. but i don't want to offend anyone so i'm just going to preface this with the very big "THIS IS ONLY MY SKEWED OPINION" opening sentence. and there's lots of reasons why my feelings on the subject might be skewed and/or bent... ;D okay so, i feel like, if they had given this SL to jo it would have worked better for me. and that's assuming chribecca is the unrequited girl-falls-for-gay-friend-unsuccessfully. purely because rebecca comes across as more of a threat when she's paired with christian. and i think, for me, that has a lot to do with the way thore portrays christian and the choices he makes. his real life heterosexual presence is a really huge undercurrent to me (its sort of part of why chrolli works for me, the idea that the 'straight' boy could turn around and fall for you : - and part of that is my fault, i have gobbled up way too many interviews and press pieces where he's waxed lyrical about how UNgay he is and that doesn't offend me or even slightly bother me about him... but it is definitely something that comes across for me. whether jo, usually is much more discreet. and so less of him paints who olli is. i've said this before but - it isn't bad the difference between thore and jo's acting styles, it's just what it is - different. but for me, thats part of the reason why the chribecca SL is such a threat. and it's not just the way thore is playing it, or failing to play it. but the way the writers see christian as well. i don't know. i'm just musing over things and i wondered about other people's opinions. okay i'll shut up now... ;D Yea i totally get what you mean regarding their roles. Its obvious what writes think of Ollian and how they paint each of them to us. I think its safe to say don't put too much thought into taking the actor's personality or character traits into their role. Because Chrsitian states himself as gay; it has nothing to do with the what actor say in interviews. But if you're cool with that I think its ok too. Anyone can view them anyway they want to. As for the writers. Many on here said before, it looks good on paper but not so much on screen. They're not making that connection. Chribecca is a threat because its a threat to Chrsitian's character. No matter how much they try to convince us otherwise.
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Post by jj8899 on Jan 18, 2010 20:16:40 GMT -5
oh no - i totally appreciate and do not doubt that christian is gay. he's said it himself and he seems happier with olli than any other pairing he's been in, on the show. but i guess what i'm getting at, is that pairing thore with a woman, any woman - in a even slightly romantic sense is kind of unsettling, if your desire is for chrolli to stay together. more so than if they paired jo with a woman. and that's not really even a comment on the actors' sexuality, which to be honest in the realm of real life i don't give two flying hoots about. but i think the techniques thore employs when he's acting draw on his real life reactions and experiences, more so than jo. (neither of them is a better actor than the other). so if thore is scripted to, as christian, flirt with a pretty girl in a totally innocuous manner because the character is gay and thinks nothing of winking at his 'best friend' - it just doesn't work in the same way it would for me if it was jo, who frequently as olli - gets up close and personal with loads of the actresses and it comes off as i think it's meant to. obviously this is all just speculation around the fact chribecca won't happen on any real level, cause if they do and christian has been developing or hiding feelings all this time, then thore is playing it to perfection. and also i feel like chrolli is threatened because of how these new writers might perceive christian because of, not only the way thore looks, but the way he portrays his character as well.. i don't know - it's a jumble in my head. and what i've just written i don't know if i agree with it 100% because i don't know exactly what i'm getting at. i guess i'm more trying to verbalise feelings. and i could be wrong, because i loved every single second of christian and judith and they used to lie around on top of eachother on the flatshare couch and he would tell her hair looked pretty. i don't know what it is - maybe it's the writers. it's just I KNOW i would have preferred olli to be the object of rebecca's lust and jo to be the one acting this. hmmm...
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Post by mona on Jan 18, 2010 20:21:42 GMT -5
I almost expect Christian to witness the Dabecca kiss and that's where his "feeling uncomfortable" starts (deep down). Just if something is supposed to happen someday.
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Post by blondeninjagirl on Jan 18, 2010 20:43:35 GMT -5
Oh interesting. ;D For me Olli hooking up with another person on the show would be devastating because hes the starter of the Ollian relationship, pursued Chrsitian and all. And if Chrsitian is taken away by some one else than i believe Olli should fight for him to get him back. Cuz if he doesn't then what was the whole point of those two years? I see what you're getting at, writers portray him as the more straight typical guy (even though gay guys can be manly,its just a sexual preferance) or Thore does, could be both. So Christian being taken by a girl isn't that much of a stretch. Even though he states himself gay all the time. I've thought about their break-up and how they would end up with other people. And tried to imagine them seeing eachother every day and interacting. And wondered about how their little interactions would show more chemistry then what they would portray with their current partner. Just thoughts to help pass the time...
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Post by luckyduck152 on Jan 18, 2010 20:43:41 GMT -5
OMG watching that clip made me want to vomit. Christian, you better not even think of developing a crush on Rebecca. That will be the end of my Chrolli love and I will have to start rooting for Dolli/Ollid or some other less than desirable option for Olli. ;( I agree with others here, if Olli was flirting with Rebecca or any other girl, it would seem harmless. That's in Olli's personality to flirt. He flirts with everyone. But Christian's flirting doesn't seem so harmless. In part because of the way Thore plays the part and because we never see Christian flirting with anyone else, not even other guys. (unless you count his interaction with Gregor or his fake flirting with Helena). So, this thing he has going with Rebecca really is quite obvious. To be honest, at this point, I'm more worried about what Christian might do, than what Rebecca might do. I hate that the writers are making me feel like this about my Chrolli.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 18, 2010 22:12:43 GMT -5
I agree with all ya'll, for Olli to flirt with somebody who isn't Christian is like, "ok yeah, whatever, Olli's a natural flirt, ok" but for christian to flirt with somebody who isn't Olli is like "omg, wtf was that, he better not like that bitch...." Its just a difference in character! I'm seriously hoping that the writers are trying to bring out the typical gay guy thing out of Christian, the "gay man harmlessly flirting with women" thing....which very well may be true, cuz he has stated more than once that he's GAY. not bi, GAYYYYYYY. And I also hope that this whole thing is setting up some grounds for Dabecca. Tomorrow, David's gonna find his feelings for rebecca, so I REALLY HOPE that the focus is on Dabecca and hopefully he'll wake rebecca out of her daydream..... And seriously, if Christian ends up falling for rebecca, I'm TOTALLY all for Olli finding another awesome guy who loves him completely, above and beyond EVERYONE. Olli fucking deserves at least that. Dolli or Rolli or even better, TROLLI!! ;D ;D haha i'm all for it if it makes my olli-bear happy
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Post by flo86 on Jan 19, 2010 3:53:18 GMT -5
I agree with all ya'll, for Olli to flirt with somebody who isn't Christian is like, "ok yeah, whatever, Olli's a natural flirt, ok" but for christian to flirt with somebody who isn't Olli is like "omg, wtf was that, he better not like that bitch...." Its just a difference in character! I'm seriously hoping that the writers are trying to bring out the typical gay guy thing out of Christian, the "gay man harmlessly flirting with women" thing....which very well may be true, cuz he has stated more than once that he's GAY. not bi, GAYYYYYYY. And I also hope that this whole thing is setting up some grounds for Dabecca. Tomorrow, David's gonna find his feelings for rebecca, so I REALLY HOPE that the focus is on Dabecca and hopefully he'll wake rebecca out of her daydream..... And seriously, if Christian ends up falling for rebecca, I'm TOTALLY all for Olli finding another awesome guy who loves him completely, above and beyond EVERYONE. Olli fucking deserves at least that. Dolli or Rolli or even better, TROLLI!! ;D ;D haha i'm all for it if it makes my olli-bear happy chrolli not you Is he flirting with her or what i'm really worried about the future (next spoilers)
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 19, 2010 11:40:01 GMT -5
I really think the flirting is harmless, flo, he doesn't like Rebecca. He loves Olli, he said so not too long ago. Come on, people are forgetting the huge love between olli and christian, christian is NOT just gonna fall completely out of love with Olli, the guy he's been dating for almost 2 years..HE LOVES OLLI more than he's ever loved anybody else. He's happy with him, he's friends with rebecca trying to hook her up with David. He doesn't love her and, if he has a decent brain, he never will. FUCK CHRIBECCA, ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!
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Post by maya on Jan 19, 2010 12:11:09 GMT -5
my impressione is that he winked at Rebecca
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 19, 2010 12:13:59 GMT -5
my impressione is that he winked at Rebecca he winked at her before at schneiders in front of olli! it doesn't mean anything
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Post by sylstyle on Jan 19, 2010 12:22:08 GMT -5
my impressione is that he winked at Rebecca he winked at her before at schneiders in front of olli! it doesn't mean anything Lets not forget they're supposed to best friends now So you do it when you're friends. And that's the case between christian and Rebecca. Moreover he knows she had bad times and he tries by this and by saying that she's doing great to cheer her up That's all Sylvain
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Post by luckyduck152 on Jan 19, 2010 17:35:13 GMT -5
I really think the flirting is harmless, flo, he doesn't like Rebecca. He loves Olli, he said so not too long ago. Come on, people are forgetting the huge love between olli and christian, christian is NOT just gonna fall completely out of love with Olli, the guy he's been dating for almost 2 years..HE LOVES OLLI more than he's ever loved anybody else. He's happy with him, he's friends with rebecca trying to hook her up with David. He doesn't love her and, if he has a decent brain, he never will. FUCK CHRIBECCA, ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! I have no doubt that Christian loves Olli and I don't think he will fall in love with Rebecca, but I do think that Christian has a tendency to act out when he's not getting his way and I think that he could end up doing something with Rebecca to be spiteful to Olli. Especially if he thinks that Olli in interested in this Robert guy. (Which, I'm sure Rebecca will fan the flames and make Christian suspicious for no reason) My fear is that Christian will jump to the wrong conclusions about Olli and use Rebecca to get back at Olli and of course she will make herself available to him. Then she will realize that Christian used her and we'll have to see the whole poor Rebecca story and David will come and rescue her. Meanwhile, Olli and Christian's relationship is completely damaged.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 19, 2010 17:41:54 GMT -5
I have no doubt that Christian loves Olli and I don't think he will fall in love with Rebecca, but I do think that Christian has a tendency to act out when he's not getting his way and I think that he could end up doing something with Rebecca to be spiteful to Olli. Especially if he thinks that Olli in interested in this Robert guy. (Which, I'm sure Rebecca will fan the flames and make Christian suspicious for no reason) My fear is that Christian will jump to the wrong conclusions about Olli and use Rebecca to get back at Olli and of course she will make herself available to him. Then she will realize that Christian used her and we'll have to see the whole poor Rebecca story and David will come and rescue her. Meanwhile, Olli and Christian's relationship is completely damaged. I really don't like to think about christian doing ANYTHING with rebecca, whether he's in love with her or not...but as much as i hate to admit it, i'd rather him do something with her to make olli jealous rather than him actually liking her and enjoying it...... I just want, no matter what happens, no matter what kinda shit goes down, for Christian and Olli to end up together. That's all I want. Idgaf about what happens in between now and then, just as long as they're together and just as in love in the end.
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Post by joanna on Jan 19, 2010 18:10:45 GMT -5
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