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Post by lugia on Jan 9, 2010 18:53:21 GMT -5
This thread will consist of discussion of lengthy scenes from the actual episodes before broadcast and therefore include MAJOR SPOILERS!Please use this thread to discuss the daily episode sneak peek videos, posted at EinsLive.de.Try to keep discussion of standard spoilers (casting news, promo pics, preview clips, and episode summaries of future episodes) in the Spoiler Discussion thread. Be warned that discussion of these future spoilers is allowed here, too, in case you come here to only learn about the very next episode. This is a spoiler thread. Thread started with permission by GayTime and Bonobochick.
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Post by lugia on Jan 9, 2010 18:53:49 GMT -5
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Post by lugia on Jan 10, 2010 18:11:25 GMT -5
Clip for Monday, Jan. 11, is up.
One brief moment of Olli working at No Limits, while Andi/Helena discuss the fortune teller. She kept the card with the "person scheming against them" away from them.
Christian runs into GreLu's lawyer in the hallway. It doesn't look good. They need to prevent Eduard from making accusations against Gregor for tieing him to a chair in the cellar. Gregor is frustrated that Eduard made the helicopter crash and almost suffocated him in the hospital and might still walk free.
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Post by mona on Jan 10, 2010 18:13:17 GMT -5
That is so bad ;D (with the card scene at the end). It seems to be popular now to leave the spoiler open in every storyline. But that obvious then in the scene? I guess then the Robert bit will be really like that too, that we get to know his plan in that "he doesn't know who he really is" thing.
and of course Olli is back at NL. I don't like that they always get their stuff in the middle of the day and in the next episode or later we see them doing normal stuff.
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Post by joanna on Jan 10, 2010 18:35:24 GMT -5
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Post by lugia on Jan 10, 2010 18:43:18 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Joanna. But I've produced blurry caps for VL for ages. There's always a lot of movement and especially Gregor is super hard to cap. I wouldn't really worry about the quality that much. It depends on how great the video is to begin with. I also agree that there wasn't much fresh material this time, but I wanted this thread up and running before the other Ollian episodes come out. If those scenes will even make it into the vids.... I'm disappointed that the wall-climbing wasn't included! I also did a few caps and it really is a lot of work. Definitely more than just the little preview seconds. Hmm. It really feels like capping the episode. But I guess a handful is doable. Thanks for them!! Here's one I have for Olli.
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Post by lugia on Jan 10, 2010 18:49:13 GMT -5
and of course Olli is back at NL. I don't like that they always get their stuff in the middle of the day and in the next episode or later we see them doing normal stuff. I just don't get how Olli gets from wearing white pants and seducing Christian one second to working at NL again the next. Does this mean they only got that reconciliation kiss and then Olli got dressed again? If there would have been a massage (or sex), Christian would've had to shower AGAIN and put on these clothes again. It's like the strawberry scene. Didn't that also take place during the lunch hour? But worse was Rebecca touching Christian's hand when it had been god-knows-where only moments before (when he came back to the castle to pick up his books). I know it's because they shoot all NL scenes on one day, but they really need more wardrobe changes! Or not leave the scenes open-ended all the time. Thore's highlights are really noticeable in the hallway. Why is Christian wearing a white tank top in winter anyway?
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Post by andre on Jan 10, 2010 18:51:51 GMT -5
That is so bad ;D (with the card scene at the end). It seems to be popular now to leave the spoiler open in every storyline. But that obvious then in the scene? It really seems that Helena and Andi is meant to be THE couple, not Tristan and Helena, when they make this-kinda "destiny" scenes. Oh, well, it's boring in both ways. *yawn*
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Post by joanna on Jan 10, 2010 18:52:09 GMT -5
Here's one I have for Olli. Yep, that's how mine came out, too! Thanks for posting, though. It's just speaking very personally, but I'm just not keen on putting out caps if the image quality of them is very poor. There doesn't seem a huge amount of point to it. So, yeah, sticking to doing only a few caps per preview seems like it is probably the way to go. Anyway, I think any more, on top of what we already do, is a little much - particularly with the previews going up as late as they will be.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 10, 2010 18:52:49 GMT -5
Why are long previews posted now? Is this something new? its cool!
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Post by thunderkat on Jan 10, 2010 20:18:11 GMT -5
and of course Olli is back at NL. I don't like that they always get their stuff in the middle of the day and in the next episode or later we see them doing normal stuff. I just don't get how Olli gets from wearing white pants and seducing Christian one second to working at NL again the next. Does this mean they only got that reconciliation kiss and then Olli got dressed again? If there would have been a massage (or sex), Christian would've had to shower AGAIN and put on these clothes again. It's like the strawberry scene. Didn't that also take place during the lunch hour? But worse was Rebecca touching Christian's hand when it had been god-knows-where only moments before (when he came back to the castle to pick up his books). I know it's because they shoot all NL scenes on one day, but they really need more wardrobe changes! Or not leave the scenes open-ended all the time. Thore's highlights are really noticeable in the hallway. Why is Christian wearing a white tank top in winter anyway? Why is he wearing a tank top in the winter? have you SEEN the man? I'm sure he generates enough heat just by standing there that winter clothing is optional... RE: the chronology, LOL at Rebecca touching christian's hand, she is ms Watersports, maybe she's down with that sort of thing I figured that Olli didn't chase after Christian right away, he probably gave the loser his boyfriend time to get over his funk, At which point he probably heads over to Louise and Gregors to talk turkey re: the trial. Meanwhile Olli's in NL talking to HelAndi for a bit, then goes back upstairs, goes to the dryer for the white pants and bath stuff and slips into kamikaze mode. If they showed it completely chronologically then we'd be scratching our heads on monday wondering why they waited the weekend to sew up the story. OR.... maybe the boys only made it to third base or so ;D I dunno about ya'll but to me, olli was broadcasting pretty clearly what activities would be on the agenda w. the "bloodflow" comment.
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Post by Nitty on Jan 10, 2010 22:28:23 GMT -5
I think it's kinda funny when Ollian have their clothes on again after their midday sexin'.
It's like they do it, immediately get up and say, "Finished!" And then they grab their wrinkled clothing off of the floor, dress, and go about what they were doing before. ;D
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Post by blondeninjagirl on Jan 10, 2010 23:07:42 GMT -5
I think it's kinda funny when Ollian have their clothes on again after their midday sexin'. It's like they do it, immediately get up and say, "Finished!" And then they grab their wrinkled clothing off of the floor, dress, and go about what they were doing before. ;D Ew, yea same clothes... and going back to work pretending they didn't have crazy ninja sex... well they are boys and boys can be icky. ;D
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Post by lugia on Jan 11, 2010 8:13:39 GMT -5
If they showed it completely chronologically then we'd be scratching our heads on monday wondering why they waited the weekend to sew up the story. But these were the spoilers that sounded like a two-episode mini-story at first, with the cliffhanger being that Christian got annoyed in the bathtub. And then the spoiler pic had the "unconditional love" caption, clueing us in about the make-up in the same episode. But I thought their story was finished with that. Now I'm still undecided whether they slapped on the ending quickly, so that Christian could focus on the Gregor plot, or if it was intended as a one-episode deal from the start. Probably the latter. They don't care about putting the SAME characters in separate universes these days and making them look schizophrenic. I guess I was fine with the one-episode arc BEFORE I realized that day would continue the next Monday. Just start a new day and I'm fine. But that would screw with other, continuous storylines like AnHel. But GreLu is rarely on anyway, they can pick their day of the week freely (one Christian has calmed down again). They need to go back to doing continuity shots, at least, like Ollian coming out of the apartment together, doing the twirl of love, running into Gregor, Olli going downstairs to start his shift, Christian catching up with Gregor. Or like when Gregor caught them in bed, and Christian was still doing his zipper when he knocked on Gregor's door. Or not show them shower right before sex, and never after.
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Post by thunderkat on Jan 11, 2010 10:07:44 GMT -5
Now I'm still undecided whether they slapped on the ending quickly, so that Christian could focus on the Gregor plot, or if it was intended as a one-episode deal from the start. They need to go back to doing continuity shots, at least, like Ollian coming out of the apartment together, doing the twirl of love, running into Gregor, Olli going downstairs to start his shift, Christian catching up with Gregor. Or like when Gregor caught them in bed, and Christian was still doing his zipper when he knocked on Gregor's door. Or not show them shower right before sex, and never after. Ahh the twirl of love...sigh. You're absolutely right, they need something to contextualize the chronology, because otherwise we are left speculating as to WHEN is this happening, like we are now. It's a minor point, but cumulatively speaking it serves to color the show with nuances of reality that will make it more authentic for the audience.
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Post by jj8899 on Jan 11, 2010 11:33:58 GMT -5
That is so bad ;D (with the card scene at the end). It seems to be popular now to leave the spoiler open in every storyline. But that obvious then in the scene? It really seems that Helena and Andi is meant to be THE couple, not Tristan and Helena, when they make this-kinda "destiny" scenes. Oh, well, it's boring in both ways. *yawn* i am well disappointed with the whole andi/helena/tristan thing. when i first found out about it - aside from mourning the never to be judith/andi pairing (they would have been such sweet, flatshare 'soulmates' - even though i always held a secret candle for forbidden judith/gregor shenanigans (okay, really off topic : ) - i was pretty excited. like this: now i am mostly this: and sometimes this: it's such a waste. but for some reason it just doesn't work for me. i don't know if it's the actors not clicking (cos i kinda like them all individually, even though helena's 'goodness' grates, andi's teeth can be quite scary, and tristan is about as 3D a character as a very thin piece of cardboard) or just general bad writing. but it doesn't come off the way i think they intended it too. i was even yawning through the tristan-perves-on-sleeping-helena-scenes, and usually i like the those kind of soapy scenes. p.s. i love how its all the lovely ladies on the thread who are totally icked out by chrolli's lack of clothes change apres sexy-time... ;D i kinda like it - it's sorta dirty (in a good way) for such a clean cut couple. like, we may not see it - but chrolli really grasp the concept of the lunchtime quickie... oh, and happy new year to everyone!
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Post by sylstyle on Jan 11, 2010 12:24:20 GMT -5
It really seems that Helena and Andi is meant to be THE couple, not Tristan and Helena, when they make this-kinda "destiny" scenes. Oh, well, it's boring in both ways. *yawn* i am well disappointed with the whole andi/helena/tristan thing. when i first found out about it - aside from mourning the never to be judith/andi pairing (they would have been such sweet, flatshare 'soulmates' - even though i always held a secret candle for forbidden judith/gregor shenanigans (okay, really off topic : ) - i was pretty excited. like this: now i am mostly this: and sometimes this: it's such a waste. but for some reason it just doesn't work for me. i don't know if it's the actors not clicking (cos i kinda like them all individually, even though helena's 'goodness' grates, andi's teeth can be quite scary, and tristan is about as 3D a character as a very thin piece of cardboard) or just general bad writing. but it doesn't come off the way i think they intended it too. i was even yawning through the tristan-perves-on-sleeping-helena-scenes, and usually i like the those kind of soapy scenes. p.s. i love how its all the lovely ladies on the thread who are totally icked out by chrolli's lack of clothes change apres sexy-time... ;D i kinda like it - it's sorta dirty (in a good way) for such a clean cut couple. like, we may not see it - but chrolli really grasp the concept of the lunchtime quickie... oh, and happy new year to everyone! I've exactly the same opinion about Andi and Helena they are totally boring and I din't even understand where it's forbidden with them And "der Teufel" for Tristan well at least we know what we now can expect from him ;D Sylvain
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Post by mona on Jan 11, 2010 13:34:32 GMT -5
I guess only Tristans love is forbidden. The same with Rebecca loving her gay friend and so on. That's what makes it so annoying to see who is meant for who. But here I still think someday Helena will have these feelings too. "Teufel" = Inzest?
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Jan 11, 2010 13:37:58 GMT -5
Idk why, but I kinda want helena and tristan to be incest/forbidden lovers, it'd be interesting! lol weird and wrong, sure, but interesting!
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Post by chango on Jan 11, 2010 14:27:03 GMT -5
But here I still think someday Helena will have these feelings too. " It needs to happen. Andi and Helena really are way too perfect and therefore boring at such an early stage... something big needs to happen to give this story a right to continue its existence in the future. Or AnHel are just supposed to be some kind of transitional supercouple that will become a B-plot after some time. Spoiler regarding more than just the sneak peek: We know a new prince will join the show early this year. And I still expect him to get a really big love story.
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Post by joanna on Jan 11, 2010 18:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by lugia on Jan 11, 2010 18:55:24 GMT -5
Where's Waldo? ;D I can't believe they're doing an actual trial episode. Or probably arc. Eduard makes it look in this as if Gregor is unstable and initiated the duel. They all wonder what he's planning.
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Post by mona on Jan 11, 2010 19:45:04 GMT -5
I didn't watch it yet but I'm soooo relieved Olli is there. It's showing them as the typical couple again IMO even though I think Christian will leave looking for the guy they're looking for alone or against what Olli says? (Not that I'm hoping for one of my favourite couple moments like when they show Gregor really in danger one of them could take the hand of the other but I guess it will be more Christian snapping(?) mood again if there's interaction at all, just something to piss me off will probably happen like Miss "I save Waldensteyck" making a guest (or Christian asking her for help as a "von") visit or Christian saying Olli didn't need to come or Olli leaves for a shift at NL because that's surprising that they don't use these moments more).
It would be kinda cool if Olli helps finding the painting guy because he's a fan of these "higher class" attitude lately or just more charming than Christian could be in a situation like this.
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Post by lugia on Jan 12, 2010 5:39:05 GMT -5
It would be kinda cool if Olli helps finding the painting guy I wonder if they're both there as witnesses. Olli might want to support Luise first and foremost and he found the button in the hangar. Christian witnessed the duel.
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Post by mona on Jan 12, 2010 9:57:49 GMT -5
It would be kinda cool if Olli helps finding the painting guy I wonder if they're both there as witnesses. Olli might want to support Luise first and foremost and he found the button in the hangar. Christian witnessed the duel. Possible that they do a "witness" montage, cutting from person to person like they do in these shows about trials but I don't count at it. and even if they show them "in der Mangel". But I even thought I wouldn't mind Olli leaving in a break to go to Charlie somehow. He's a part of Charlies whole VL history and normally I would love him to be at her party and when Christian is in action anyway (with whoever) it seems like he isn't really needed (wouldn't he try to help or stop Christian anyway?) Then again they need people there to look in shock and then relieved at the end when they don't know how they will decide. Could add some nice Ollian seconds maybe.
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