neand48
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Post by neand48 on Jun 24, 2008 19:46:33 GMT -5
Damian's money? Now I'm confused... I thought Luke signed some agreement that he didn't want the Grimaldi money in that scene at the airport? And if it's true: YEAH for the love interest for Lucinda! She really deserves one again... I guess a lot is going to happen in July and August. And you're right... Luke did sign a document... It could have something to do with his age... (How old is Luke supposed to be anyway?) Pure speculation on my part.
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Post by smuchshypush on Jun 24, 2008 21:55:32 GMT -5
"Luke is at the Gay Pride Event and Noah shows up... with Reg's ex-boyfriend Tony as his date." (AfterElton)
I don't know why I'm getting picky about this of all things in Nuke's crazy, poorly-written storyline, but this would never happen. Noah dating so soon? And with skeevy little Tony? No. Yeah, it's just to facilitate Nuke getting back together, but... no.
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 24, 2008 22:09:50 GMT -5
"Luke is at the Gay Pride Event and Noah shows up... with Reg's ex-boyfriend Tony as his date." (AfterElton) I don't know why I'm getting picky about this of all things in Nuke's crazy, poorly-written storyline, but this would never happen. Noah dating so soon? And with skeevy little Tony? No. Yeah, it's just to facilitate Nuke getting back together, but... no. I don't think Noah bringing Tony as his date is him legitimately dating again. IMO, If Noah thinks that Luke is with Reg, or even based on the fact that Reg finds Luke hot & has asked him out, I can see Noah bringing Tony to try to make either Luke or Reg jealous. Yes, it's childish but who hasn't done something like that to get at an ex that you want back?
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Post by dkp on Jun 25, 2008 8:29:52 GMT -5
The spoiler that says Noah shows up with Tony as his date is slightly wrong. None of the official spoilers use the word date, they just simply say Noah shows up with Tony. So, "as a date" is an assumption by the author at AfterElton.
I don't think Noah goes on a date with Tony at all. I think it's more of a misunderstanding by Luke or Noah does it to get Luke jealous.
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 25, 2008 8:37:09 GMT -5
I think Cyndi day is gonna be campy but fun. Didn't the spoilers already confirm that there will be making out before Noah announces he wants to join the army? And I would expect there to be some more of it once Luke persuades him to not go. Comeon ATWT, this is your chance to redeem yourselves. ;D
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Post by dkp on Jun 25, 2008 8:45:37 GMT -5
Yeah I think it's going to be campy but fun as well and there is suppose a kiss on that day.
I still find Noah wanting to join the Army stupid and out of the blue. Hopefully that part is explained and plays out better than the spoilers have presented it.
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Post by bugchicklv on Jun 26, 2008 0:22:31 GMT -5
Depending on the MOS he chooses, his friends and family could be interviewed and an intensive background investigation launched before he even enlists.
In real life there would be SOMEONE who wouldn't/couldn't keep their mouth shut about him being gay...or at least having had a boyfriend. Of course, the funny part is that (as far as we've seen) he HASN'T engaged in homosexual activities, so TECHNICALLY he's not gay (at least not by the Army's definition).
Seriously, it's one thing to hide yourself if you TRULY believe in the cause, if being a soldier was his life's goal...but to somehow honor your "dead" father's memory (a man who doesn't deserve it) by enlisting is just wrong.*
Good thing he's not trying for OCS, or to go to a service academy. They'd have weeded him out immediately for that line of reasoning.
* I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is the reason he chooses to enlist.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 27, 2008 10:51:45 GMT -5
I know that I have absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the direction of this topic, but I just have to say: HELL TO THE YEAH for mattnjacob's reply. ;D I would beg, borrow and steal a million dollars, if TIIC would write a scene with Luke saying those things to Noah Jethro. I'm done. I'm Luke dammit! I've got all this! See? *twirl* See all this? There's another guy just waiting around the corner. Trust me. There's a guy out there that will respect me and not be afraid to be himself around me. And he'd LOVE to jump up and down on the bed with me!" [/i][/quote]
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Post by Bonobochick on Jul 11, 2008 14:07:20 GMT -5
I'm sorry but what about when Lily cheated on Holden with Dusty? It wasn't shaken then. Call me a cynic but it's not like Luke hasn't been through this before... why would it shake his faith now?? The only thing I can see is him maybe being more upset that it was Holden screwing his mother's best friend but infidelity is not something new to Lily and Holden's relationship.
I am much more interested in Damian's letter to Luke and what that means.
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Post by amber80 on Jul 11, 2008 18:22:01 GMT -5
Exactly my thoughts!
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Post by Bonobochick on Jul 17, 2008 14:04:25 GMT -5
AfterElton spoilers for wk of July 21st: "There's nothing more fun than watching Luke go off on someone and next week he has a few choice words for Holden and Carly about their affair. Luckily for Luke he's got Noah to lean on for support... and possibly more. On next Thursday's show (July 24th), Luke and Noah talk about taking their relationship to the next level." www.afterelton.com/node/18509I am no fan of cheating but where was this indignation when Lily was stepping out with Dusty and flaking on her children? And Luke and Noah have done enough talking. They just need to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2008 14:34:24 GMT -5
I think I recall Luke being bitchy at and letting his mother have it for lying and going off with Dusty. And far from me to excuse her behavior then, but it's not like Lily was cheating with Holden's best friend (and quasi family member) while still sleeping with Holden and making him believe she's working on their relationship. I was kind of indifferent, but I think what irked me a bit was seeing Holden appear not to give a crap about Damian contacting Luke (a man he historically hates and tried to protect his son from), too focused on his Carly fantasies. Then, his nonchalant attitude when Lily offered to do his bag just so that he can go and stalk her best friend in NY. I don't know why, but I really despised that moment. I've always had a soft spot for Carly too, but best friend's spouse screwing has always turned me way off, especially since Lily has been one of the very few people who've often stood by her while the whole town was crucifying her. Sure, it makes for much-needed drama, but ugh, soaps. Yeah, still nothing very exciting to me anyway, the Nuke thing much included.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 17, 2008 14:42:58 GMT -5
Is there going to be a bit more on Damian contacting Luke 'out of the blue' about the money? Was that all there was about Damian contacting Luke?
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Post by Bonobochick on Jul 17, 2008 14:52:40 GMT -5
I think I recall Luke being bitchy at and letting his mother have it for lying and going off with Dusty. And far from me to excuse her behavior then, but it's not like Lily was cheating with Holden's best friend (and quasi family member) while still sleeping with Holden and making him believe she's working on their relationship. I was kind of indifferent, but I think what irked me a bit was seeing Holden appear not to give a crap about Damian contacting Luke (a man he historically hates and tried to protect his son from), too focused on his Carly fantasies. Then, his nonchalant attitude when Lily offered to do his bag just so that he can go and stalk her best friend in NY. I don't know why, but I really despised that moment. I've always had a soft spot for Carly too, but best friend's spouse screwing has always turned me way off, especially since Lily has been one of the very few people who've often stood by her while the whole town was crucifying her. Sure, it makes for much-needed drama, but ugh, soaps. Yeah, still nothing very exciting to me anyway, the Nuke thing much included. Luke was bitchy with her after the Thanksgiving debacle but after that, not so much. He was mad about the lying and how it was hurting Faith but not so much the affair itself. I am not saying what happened is right but honestly, Holden should never have gone back to Lily to try to make things work (mostly for the kids) cause he's been done with the marriage for almost a year now and obviously going through the motions. I just don't want it be where Holden gets off scott free but Carly becomes the town pariah (again). Is there going to be a bit more on Damian contacting Luke 'out of the blue' about the money? Was that all there was about Damian contacting Luke? I've not heard more on it. It will be interesting if they get him to come back...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2008 15:22:36 GMT -5
Well, it's not Holden having an affair per se that bothers me or even the marriage falling apart. It's been broken since forever IMO. I say let it die and be dead for a long time. It's more the friendship betrayal aspect and the way Holden went about it all that irk me. To think also that Holden behaves like an amateur stalker with the woman for whom Lily has done things in his back, often jeopardizing their marriage makes it all the more absurd and sickening, on both Holden's and Carly's parts. So, I sure as hell hope Holden doesn't get scot-free, especially considering the Snyder legendary self-righteousness. But you should know, Carly is the devil and the Snyder men are saints. Carly, well, the soft spot is almost always there, especially when it's in relation to Jack-ass, but that friendship thing bugs me more than anything else really.
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Post by amber80 on Jul 17, 2008 15:36:18 GMT -5
So according to the new spoilers Luke and Noah are going to talk about taking their relationship to the next level? Talking, talking, talking, etc. It's about time they act upon it! For the dutch among us: Praatjes vullen geen gaatjes!. ;D (Sorry, couldn't resist that one )
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Post by calaeb on Jul 17, 2008 22:16:14 GMT -5
So according to the new spoilers Luke and Noah are going to talk about taking their relationship to the next level? Talking, talking, talking, etc. It's about time they act upon it! Seriously, it's not rocket science. Maybe they should just bunker down and give it the ol' college try!
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Post by lolaruns on Jul 20, 2008 15:41:33 GMT -5
So, will Nuke finally do the deed or is it pointless to get my hopes up?
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Post by Bonobochick on Jul 20, 2008 15:51:17 GMT -5
So, will Nuke finally do the deed or is it pointless to get my hopes up? See the latest spoilers I just posted. And I don't think if/when they do it, that it will happen this week. But that they haven't done it AT ALL is still too ludicrous to even think about. BTW, Parker is 14, Liberty is 16. What does that say when they're closer to having sex when they're first cousins who only met a few months ago than 2 adult men who've more or less been in a loving relationship for almost a year?
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Post by lolaruns on Jul 20, 2008 16:16:58 GMT -5
I'm not sure if those spoilers really mean that P&L actually did it. It might just mean that people think that they did, but they didn't actually do it. You know, big whacky misunderstanding.
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Post by amber80 on Jul 20, 2008 16:48:28 GMT -5
Mmmm... The spoilers say ' talk' about sex. Talking about is is not having it and in ATWT world that means it could take a while... I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Post by Bonobochick on Jul 20, 2008 17:30:58 GMT -5
I'm not sure if those spoilers really mean that P&L actually did it. It might just mean that people think that they did, but they didn't actually do it. You know, big whacky misunderstanding. I don't think P & L have sex either, but the fact that they have contraceptives handy and have been filmed on a bed, even if just asleep together already puts them ahead of Noah and Luke. And that's just sad.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 21, 2008 6:24:47 GMT -5
Also, the fact that TIIC think it's acceptable that they HAVE set up the premise that P/L could actually be having sex OR making preparations TO have sex, while two OF AGE young men who HAVE been in their relationship for over 10 months, can only be seen TALKING about having sex?!
Also, have they forgotten that Luke is a man?! All this talk about him feeling like 'love relationships seem to not last long and he doesn't have faith in his with Noah' is ridiculous to me. All of the parental figures around him (including his own parents), have been cheating on each other from before, during AND after he was born in the Snyder kitchen. All the things that he's gone through with Noah, in the past 10 months are somehow negated, because one parent, yet AGAIN cheated on the other one?!
Puh-lease. Just another SL to keep these two characters from having sex on the show.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 23, 2008 11:02:06 GMT -5
Thanks lola, for updating the Spoilers Only section. I knew it. I just knew that TIIC would somehow find another way YET AGAIN to keep the "good gays" from actually having sex with each other. How in the world is it 'right and/or acceptable' for a 14 year-old and 16 year-old, who have only met each other 2 months ago, to be able to have SEX with each other, while two 18 and/or 19 year-old young men, who have been in a relationship for over 10 months, are still "waiting for the right time"?!
There's no way that anyone can make this make sense to me, other than actually ADMITTING the truth and saying that they can't have sex, because they're two men. Just be honest. Seriously.
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Post by lolaruns on Jul 23, 2008 11:04:16 GMT -5
Am I crazy for still hoping against hope that that can't be it? That there has to be some twist to it? I mean, could they really be this insultive?
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