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Post by jjose712 on Jul 19, 2009 5:01:23 GMT -5
Well there's a big difference between Fer and David, and Alberto and Fonsi. David kissed Fer first, and even he tried to avoid it, he always show an interest for Fer further than friendship. Fonsi on the other hand seems completly straight
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Post by jnn111 on Jul 19, 2009 5:22:19 GMT -5
I also doubt that Fonsi and Alberto will get together just like Julio and Fer. I kind of like seeing a gay/straight male relationship. Of course that doesn't mean we can't dream. I really love the scene with Fonsi and Alberto in the bed. So HOT and so re-playable ;D ;D  ;D ;D I have some straight friends and it is a tricky line to walk as I find them attractive, but they are my friends and are straight.  |
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Post by overtherainbow on Jul 19, 2009 9:21:10 GMT -5
Like I said before, I doubt Mito is gay and would ever hook up with Alberto. I also doubt Fonsi is gay and I don't think he would hook up with Alberto. That being said, I agree, we can always dream  Right now I think the best part about this show is the relationship between Ginés and Cisco and how Victor reacted to them. Very good acting and writing, I could really feel Victor's pain and hurt and confusion. It is very clever of the writers, this way they made a cruel character more loveable, and made us viewers feel for the boy. I really hope the writers give Alberto more to do, I love his interaction with Fonsi, but I would also like to see him having a love life, a love interest. The only time we saw him with a potential guy was at the party, and that scene lasted like 10 seconds. I want to see more of Alberto, and I really hope he finds a great guy soon! jjosé, Do you know how the ratings are now? Have they gone up or are they still bad? I think this show is excellent, good acting and good writing. It's funny, sad, dramatic.. Very entertaining and enjoyable I do not think it deserves such low ratings, since it's such a great series. |
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Post by lucrece on Jul 19, 2009 10:07:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I dislike having gay guys playing second fiddle and mother hen to their straight friends, without genuine lives of their own.
That's why I love Gines (I wish I had my old South American laptop to have my accents and other Spanish-relevant letter ;( ). I love how he says "Mi Cisco". Something I really love about Spanish culture; language is not segregated.
They don't do like Americans, where they segregate intimate language. Gay have partners, straights use husband/wife. I rarely see American gays say "my guy" and be as equally affectionate/territorial as their straight counterparts. Not so with Spain; they say "mi chico/mi marido/mi novio" (my boy/my husband/my boyfriend, for non-Spanish speakers).
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Post by hach on Jul 19, 2009 12:31:01 GMT -5
I was referring to the reaction of Angel's parents to Ginés being gay. The wife spoke with Lourdes and Luis spoke, I believe, sympathetically with Ginés. Both Luis and Marta are understanding and supportive of Ginés although Marta was kind of in a pickle because Lourdes wanted her to side with her against Ginés, which she couldn't. After Luis asked her to, Marta tried to convince Lourdes that it would be best to sort things out before Víctor finds out through somebody else. I'm not sure if that helps. If you had specific pieces of dialogue in mind, maybe you can indicate the exact position in the clip. Well, I hope so because I'm not sure I'd want to see Fonsi and Alberto as a couple. I like to think of Fonsi as an equivalent of Julio rather than David. After all, having a straight mate like Fonsi is worth dreaming about, too - to me anyway... jjosé, Do you know how the ratings are now? Have they gone up or are they still bad? Can't answer that, but the actor who plays Ángel said in an interview from I don't know when that they had already shot around 40 episodes and were preparing to move to Madrid by the end of July to continue shooting there. That's a good sign, I guess. |
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Post by overtherainbow on Jul 19, 2009 13:51:41 GMT -5
I changed the title. I do have the kiss between them.. It's on my channel, still sucky quality, but it's better than nothing.
I have to give a huge shout out to Alberto Contador today for winning the 15th leg of Tour de France. I love Spain and of course I was rooting for him, I am so glad he won. He's such a cutie too!
Sorry for going off topic, on topic again. The kiss is here:
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Post by ivaniv on Jul 19, 2009 14:19:26 GMT -5
Can somebody tell me which episode is that bed scene from, pls? I find it cute and would like to download it from the channel website  OMG and do they speak fast |
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Post by ivaniv on Jul 19, 2009 14:29:44 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll check it out and see what I can do with caps. Pity I don't speak Spanish, but my brain would be too slow for that speed anyway ;D
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 19, 2009 14:49:13 GMT -5
OMG, i don't recognize Gerard, but the truth is that i know him. I'm totally adicted to OT (our american idol) and Gerard was one of the finalist of the casting of the 5th season, but like Pedro (the guy who flirt with Fer in the fourth episode of this season of FoQ) he never enter on the contest.
He was on the competition to represent spain in eurovison song contest that year, but i never heard more about him after that. He really change a lot, he has 18 when he tries to enter in ot, so he must be 21 right now.
And i don't know if he is gay in real life, but the truth is that edition of ot was pretty gay
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 19, 2009 14:52:58 GMT -5
By the way, i find a couple of clips of Al salir de clase, the show wich is clearly the inspiration of Un golpe de suerte. It was the first and the most succesful teen soap in spain, and it had the first gay teen couple in a show. They have some problems (ATWT style) and usually a phone rangs or someone interrupted them everytime they were gonna kiss
In no particular order:
Well, there are some more videos on the same channel (they are on the oposite chronological order, the first is in fact the last, well not the last of the total story, just the last of the first part of the story)
Santi (the brunete) was the bad guy of the school, but he finally fall in love for a straight friend and change. well, this is a very long story, so to make it short, tons of episodes later, in a summer camp he meet Ruben (the blond guy) who has a girlfriend (in fact she was Miss spain of that year), but they end together. Of course it's not that simple, there's a coming out, two different phychos (the show was full of phychos), a runaway from home, a cheating, a blackmail, a faked death, and finally they get together.
I don't know what Bernabé (the blond) is doing now, but Alejo (the brunette) is a very popular tv actor, he has a lot of series and some films in his curriculum. And in Van Hansis or Jo Weil tradition, his private life is a mystery
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Post by ivaniv on Jul 19, 2009 14:57:31 GMT -5
Those videos are too modern for me, I can get the ad at the beginning, but not the episode itself  I have some Spanish channels on my cable, I'll have to check... |
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Post by overtherainbow on Jul 19, 2009 17:41:14 GMT -5
Thank you, jjosé, for those clips of al salir de clase. I have watched those clips before, but nice of you to mention the series. It's excellent acting from both of them, really emotional. You can NOT compare this great series with ATWT, the writing may have sucked on al salir too, but the acting.. WOW! FAR SUPERIOR than Nuke on ATWT, these two guys actually reminds me of a real life couple!
Just one question.. Do you have any info on a show called Motivos Personales? I understand it was a show that aired a while back, and it's not aired any more, but there was a gay guy on it, right? I only found one clip on Youtube, do you know anywhere I can find more of this show?
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Post by jnn111 on Jul 20, 2009 1:29:57 GMT -5
Thank you, jjosé for those clips!!! Good stuff ;D ;D Glad to hear that Gerard is getting such attention. Very talented Not sure if he is gay in real life, but it really doesn't matter. ;D |
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 20, 2009 5:52:05 GMT -5
Motivos personales was a thriller and had a lot of success during its two seasons. I knew Jaime was gay since first episode but it only was oficially revealed at the end of the first season, and he only really come out at the last episode of the second.
He didn¡t have a relationship. He was in love with his best friend (he and his female cousin met the guy in the first episode), and he kissed him before the revealed that he was kissed by a guy before (his best friend when he was in a center to conflictive child), but they remain only friends (in fact his friend had a relationship wiht Jaime's mother)
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Post by overtherainbow on Jul 20, 2009 6:55:35 GMT -5
Motivos personales was a thriller and had a lot of success during its two seasons. I knew Jaime was gay since first episode but it only was oficially revealed at the end of the first season, and he only really come out at the last episode of the second. He didn¡t have a relationship. He was in love with his best friend (he and his female cousin met the guy in the first episode), and he kissed him before the revealed that he was kissed by a guy before (his best friend when he was in a center to conflictive child), but they remain only friends (in fact his friend had a relationship wiht Jaime's mother) Thanks for that information. It sucks they didn't give him a love life though.. Jamie is very cute. |
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 20, 2009 7:50:47 GMT -5
Well, the series was a murder mystery with lot of deaths. Jamie storyline was more soft side, he was related with his cousin (her dad was one of the first victims) and the friend who kissed on that video, both were related with the main storyline, in fact Jaime's dad and grandmother were the baddies in the story.
He was a martyr character, he struggle with being gay, then he try to avoid what he felt for his friend, then he felt betrayed when he discover what happens between his mother and his friend (he even suffer a bash destined to his friend), and the he finds peace, well some kind of strange peace, because he allies with his mother and blackmail his father (who ends in jail). With so much action he didn't have time to a relationship
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 20, 2009 8:16:48 GMT -5
Well, there's only comenting another spanish shows that ended (in fact Al salir de clase is totally related to Un golpe de suerte). I don't want to open a new thread only to post three post about a show that finished a couple of years ago
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 20, 2009 12:38:57 GMT -5
Gerard in the eurovision spanish selection a couple of years ago (it was after almost enter in ot) he is singing with Mirela our eternal second in the selections (poor girl). They find the semifinals together and separate, but only her was in the final (when she ends second)
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Post by hach on Jul 20, 2009 13:17:12 GMT -5
Wow!!!!!!! "The Hach is back" So wonderful hach to see you posting and you answering all those queries people have. LOL, you make it sound as if I hadn't posted in weeks or even months.  Thanks for the kind wishes. My exams marathon starts next week already.  |
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 20, 2009 16:02:23 GMT -5
Well it was a show live and the sound it wasn't great, but he is a good singer (far better than Adrián Rodríguez).
And what character play Joel in Física o química, because foq has so much recurring actors that it's imposible to know anyone. In fact the guy (Javier was his name) who flirt with Julio in the gay bar (when cova and julio try to have sex in the bathroom) was the main character in another teen soap this year (the soap was pretty bad, and end a couple of months ago, it had a gay character, a teacher without any love interest all the time, when the gay character is a teacher, it's always the same)
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Post by overtherainbow on Jul 20, 2009 17:30:17 GMT -5
Does anyone know where I can dl Un golpe de suerte? I want to keep uploading more videos of this series on youtube, but I don't know if I'll bother.. The quality of the videos I have now are so bad.. What do you guys think? Do you know if there's anywhere I can dl good quality videos of UGDS? I'll be glad for any help I can get |
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Post by lucrece on Jul 20, 2009 17:38:57 GMT -5
Today's episode was OK, not much on the storylines we're interested in. I do feel Gines, as cute as he is, is overstepping. Come on, bringing in your boyfriend into the same house to live with the son who's just become aware of your sexual orientation, and with a bitter ex-wife? He's just asking for trouble. I'm afraid Gines might push his son into Lourdes's side by appearing too eager to start conflict with Lourdes. Sure, that is his house, but does Cisco not have his own place? His introduction of Cisco into family life needs not be rushed; don't make Victor recoil. As for Fonsi and Alberto, you can stop dreaming. The official website makes it pretty clear he's 100% straight. I'd rather we see some love interest introduced for Alberto. Maybe the new storyline would have Fonsi become jealous over not having Alberto's attention anymore? Does anyone know where I can dl Un golpe de suerte? I want to keep uploading more videos of this series on youtube, but I don't know if I'll bother.. The quality of the videos I have now are so bad.. What do you guys think? Do you know if there's anywhere I can dl good quality videos of UGDS? I'll be glad for any help I can get I already said it earlier. RealPlayer has a function to download videos off the web. A pop-up will appear when your cursor is on the video, asking if you want to download the video. |
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Post by overtherainbow on Jul 20, 2009 18:04:28 GMT -5
Today's episode was OK, not much on the storylines we're interested in. I do feel Gines, as cute as he is, is overstepping. Come on, bringing in your boyfriend into the same house to live with the son who's just become aware of your sexual orientation, and with a bitter ex-wife? He's just asking for trouble. I'm afraid Gines might push his son into Lourdes's side by appearing too eager to start conflict with Lourdes. Sure, that is his house, but does Cisco not have his own place? His introduction of Cisco into family life needs not be rushed; don't make Victor recoil. As for Fonsi and Alberto, you can stop dreaming. The official website makes it pretty clear he's 100% straight. I'd rather we see some love interest introduced for Alberto. Maybe the new storyline would have Fonsi become jealous over not having Alberto's attention anymore? Does anyone know where I can dl Un golpe de suerte? I want to keep uploading more videos of this series on youtube, but I don't know if I'll bother.. The quality of the videos I have now are so bad.. What do you guys think? Do you know if there's anywhere I can dl good quality videos of UGDS? I'll be glad for any help I can get I already said it earlier. RealPlayer has a function to download videos off the web. A pop-up will appear when your cursor is on the video, asking if you want to download the video. Thanks, I tried using RealPlayer, but it didn't work.. I think it's blocked for downloading. If anyone know somewhere else I can dl this series, either through torrent or rapidshare or anything like that, please let me know.I agree about Fonsi, I always said he was straight, and I knew he wouldn't hook up with Alberto. I do hope they introduce a love interest for Alberto soon though.. Yep, I think maybe it's all going a bit too fast. Victor needs to get used to the new situation before Ginés's boyfriend moves in. I think he should wait a while, and consider Victor's feelings too. It's fine that it's his house and all, but Victor and Lourdes live there too, he can't do exactly as he wants. I think he should have waited a while before making Cisco move in! On that note, I do think the hug between Gines and Victor was a breakthrough, and very cute too! |
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Post by jnn111 on Jul 21, 2009 1:59:05 GMT -5
Today's episode was OK, not much on the storylines we're interested in. I do feel Gines, as cute as he is, is overstepping. Come on, bringing in your boyfriend into the same house to live with the son who's just become aware of your sexual orientation, and with a bitter ex-wife? He's just asking for trouble. I'm afraid Gines might push his son into Lourdes's side by appearing too eager to start conflict with Lourdes. Sure, that is his house, but does Cisco not have his own place? His introduction of Cisco into family life needs not be rushed; don't make Victor recoil. As for Fonsi and Alberto, you can stop dreaming. The official website makes it pretty clear he's 100% straight. I'd rather we see some love interest introduced for Alberto. Maybe the new storyline would have Fonsi become jealous over not having Alberto's attention anymore? I already said it earlier. RealPlayer has a function to download videos off the web. A pop-up will appear when your cursor is on the video, asking if you want to download the video. Thanks, I tried using RealPlayer, but it didn't work.. I think it's blocked for downloading. If anyone know somewhere else I can dl this series, either through torrent or rapidshare or anything like that, please let me know.As far as downloading the episodes, it's a little tricky. They have their own way of playing the videos. If you have the firefox browser, then you can use and add on named DownloadHelper: www.downloadhelper.net/ The tricky thing is that it downloads the episode in .flv mode instead of .mpeg for windows player. so you would have to find a converter program that will convert it. You could use: www.mediaconverter.org/ Click upload file and just browse to where you saved the .flv file. When it's done converting, the program will give you a link to download it as a .mpeg file to save on your computer. I know it's a little complicated, but they created their an imbedded player, so it's trickier to copy. Hope that helps. |
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Post by lucrece on Jul 21, 2009 2:04:43 GMT -5
Download the Windows converter. Mediaconverter.org has a megabite limit on size.
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OMG and do they speak fast 
I have some Spanish channels on my cable, I'll have to check...
