aliceg
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Post by aliceg on Jul 23, 2010 9:59:07 GMT -5
Ah the dreaded kiss is next week. At least now people won't be freaking as we know it turns out ok in the end. Sunset ending here we come....
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Post by Hawthorne on Jul 23, 2010 10:34:19 GMT -5
I guess we can surmise that Carsten's father helps him after all. At least, I hope that's what happens.
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Post by Zathras on Jul 23, 2010 19:25:48 GMT -5
I hope so too. When I read them, I was looking for any indication as to whether Carsten's father actually helped, but they're pretty vague. But the turn-around is pretty sudden (the next episode) so it seems like there's a decent chance.
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Post by leeuwin on Jul 26, 2010 9:55:25 GMT -5
Too much Lucy in the spoilers for my liking but I really hope we get some sweet (and hot) scenes with the guys before they leave. I agree The farewell party seems to be mostly about Lucy. But I don’t want to appear too greedy: I thought we’d maybe get one scene where Carsten picks up Lenny at the prison gate and now we’ll get to see them happy together in several episodes. So even if the party scenes are mostly about Lucy, I’m still more than happy about the way things turned around. I’m especially looking forward to the picnic by the lake because that is where it all started and Carsten touched Lenny’s neck for the first time. I hope they talk about that and about how far they’ve come since then. Okay, actually the perfect scene would be if Lenny fell asleep again and Carsten touched his neck again; only this time Lenny turns around (-like he did in his dream back then) and says: “I should have done that a year ago!” On the official GZSZ-homepage you can have a look at the “photo diary”. Some of the pictures weren’t shown when they showed how Lucy took the pictures. Actually my suspicion is that the “Umbrella pictures” are part of Lucy’s dream because you can see Carsten running away from the water-fight excitedly to the middle of the street and in this week’s preview that is where they kiss in Lucy’s dream. Just my guess, we’ll see. Maybe they won't show the water-fight at all and were just goofing around on set to shoot some nice pictures. Personally, I really want to see the water fight, I don’t want to see the kiss even if I’m pretty relaxed now when it comes to that storyline: All’s well that ends well!
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Post by cheerios on Jul 26, 2010 12:41:19 GMT -5
I don't mind the farewell party sounding mostly about Lucy, we know the boys will be happy together. But Lucy is still an emotional mess at the moment, it makes sense that she would fall for Carsten. Not only is he a wonderful guy, but he is the closest to knowing how she feels because of his longing for Lenny. She needs to get some closure and a fresh start, while we knows the boys are going to be happy, Lucy is still up in the air. I can see the writers spending a bit more time on her before she leaves.
I guess I don't mind the kiss so much since I know the feelings are only on Lucy's side. I don't think she loves Carsten like that truthfully. But she's just so messed up right now and he's so good. I can understand why she is so confused.
I would love to see some happy moments between Lenny and Carsten, of them just enjoying the moments they have together. Just doing the little things that all couples don't realize how much they love until they are parted. Like taking a walk together, or cuddling in bed, or just having some alone time after a day of fun. And of course lots and lots of happy kisses.
edit: Now that I think about it there is one scene I really want to see. After Carsten has had a less then fruitful talk with his homophobic jerk of a father. And he's not only upset that he can't stop Lenny from leaving again, but that his own father could be so hateful and so horrible to his only child. I want to see Lenny take Carsten in his arms and comfort him over his screwed up relationship with his father. So many times Carsten has been there to be Lenny's emotional support, I want Lenny to be there for Carsten.
I wonder if Carsten's father has a change of heart after speaking with Carsten. Or does someone else have a talk with him about the boys?
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Post by rtgtx on Jul 26, 2010 13:13:59 GMT -5
Lenny is released just 1 day or 2 after Carsten went to see his father so it should have nothing to do with C's father. I guess Lenny does something especially good in prison and get an early release as an reward.
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Post by cheerios on Jul 26, 2010 14:08:34 GMT -5
Lenny is released just 1 day or 2 after Carsten went to see his father so it should have nothing to do with C's father. I guess Lenny does something especially good in prison and get an early release as an reward. Oh I just wish Carsten wasn't handling all this alone. Sure he has Lenny's family and Dom. But they are all so busy with other things and Lucy is a big pile of mess herself.
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Post by rtgtx on Jul 26, 2010 15:19:07 GMT -5
Lenny is released just 1 day or 2 after Carsten went to see his father so it should have nothing to do with C's father. I guess Lenny does something especially good in prison and get an early release as an reward. Oh I just wish Carsten wasn't handling all this alone. Sure he has Lenny's family and Dom. But they are all so busy with other things and Lucy is a big pile of mess herself. Nice thoughts.
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Post by leeuwin on Jul 26, 2010 16:10:16 GMT -5
But Lucy is still an emotional mess at the moment, it makes sense that she would fall for Carsten. Not only is he a wonderful guy, but he is the closest to knowing how she feels because of his longing for Lenny. She needs to get some closure and a fresh start, while we knows the boys are going to be happy, Lucy is still up in the air. I can see the writers spending a bit more time on her before she leaves. I guess I don't mind the kiss so much since I know the feelings are only on Lucy's side. I don't think she loves Carsten like that truthfully. But she's just so messed up right now and he's so good. I can understand why she is so confused. I would love to see some happy moments between Lenny and Carsten, of them just enjoying the moments they have together. Just doing the little things that all couples don't realize how much they love until they are parted. Like taking a walk together, or cuddling in bed, or just having some alone time after a day of fun. And of course lots and lots of happy kisses. edit: Now that I think about it there is one scene I really want to see. After Carsten has had a less then fruitful talk with his homophobic jerk of a father. And he's not only upset that he can't stop Lenny from leaving again, but that his own father could be so hateful and so horrible to his only child. I want to see Lenny take Carsten in his arms and comfort him over his screwed up relationship with his father. So many times Carsten has been there to be Lenny's emotional support, I want Lenny to be there for Carsten. I wonder if Carsten's father has a change of heart after speaking with Carsten. Or does someone else have a talk with him about the boys? I can see why Lucy’s falling for Carsten, too and I agree that she’s not really in love with him as a person but with the things he represents: Loyalty, selflessness, bravery, the ability to see the pain of others and to stand up for them, reasonableness, the ability to grant forgiveness and to love unconditionally. She’s been hurt badly by the behavior of Philip and her father and Carsten’s love for Lenny is as solid as a rock which is something she is longing for after all her disappointment. I think the farewell party will be about Lucy forgiving Philip and her father which might be easier for her after the thing with Carsten has shown her that she has to get off her high horse. I still think that Alexander and Philip both acted the wrong way but I also think that Lucy showed a “holier-than-thou” attitude that wasn’t very helpful. And even though there’s only one person that’s allowed to kiss Carsten: It was about time that someone else fell in love with him. It’s hard to believe that until now nobody realized what a great guy he is and tried to date him. I don’t think they’d bring Carsten’s father back just to let him crush Carsten once more. I think he’ll help- not in a heroic way but I think after Carsten has talked to him he’ll make a phone call. I think the intention is to show that true love is so strong and all-embracing that even a man as bitter and intolerant as Carsten’s dad isn’t immune to it- Carsten’s flaming speech about love will reach the last crumpled bit of heart his father has left. But he won’t be able to show his son that and so Carsten will leave him desperately like the spoilers state before he’s informed that his dad helped him after all. I think Lenny’s already back in prison when Carsten goes to see his father so after the talk he’s alone I guess. I'd love to see Lenny comfort him though. I agree that Lenny’s release happens so quickly that it would be more believable if it had nothing to do with Carsten’s father but they’ve done some rather unlikely things in the past.
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Post by Zathras on Aug 6, 2010 18:41:39 GMT -5
Lucy, keep your hands lips off of Carsten .
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Post by ariadne610 on Aug 7, 2010 12:16:30 GMT -5
I would love to see some happy moments between Lenny and Carsten, of them just enjoying the moments they have together. Just doing the little things that all couples don't realize how much they love until they are parted. Like taking a walk together, or cuddling in bed, or just having some alone time after a day of fun. And of course lots and lots of happy kisses. Now that I think about it there is one scene I really want to see. I want to see Lenny take Carsten in his arms and comfort him over his screwed up relationship with his father. So many times Carsten has been there to be Lenny's emotional support, I want Lenny to be there for Carsten. It’s hard to believe that until now nobody realized what a great guy he is and tried to date him. I absolutely agree with you about that. Lenny should be there to comfort Carsten about his father. I want to see that, too. And many scenes of love and happiness and ordinary couple life. We've hardly had such moments. And when Lenny finally comes out of prison, I want him to make a commitment speech to Carsten - not necessarily on his knees, but promising him that he will never leave him alone again, apologizing for all the emotional trouble and hard times he gave him in the past and promising him that, from that point on, he'll start to make Carsten happy finally...Oh, I long to see and hear something like that....wouldn't this be romantic? And, about the last part, that no one realized what a great, cute and lovely guy Carsten is and tried to date him - I never understood that. During the hard times with Lenny, wouldn't it have been nice for Carsten to see that other people appreciate him, if not Lenny. And wouldn't it have been a nice turn for the story, if Lenny had seen that others might well take the guy he's to afraid to love? Carsten probably wouldn't have dated someone else, having been so desperately in love with Lenny that he took so much shit from his side, but maybe Lenny would have realized something a lot earlier...just a thought... ;D
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Post by aliceg on Aug 11, 2010 10:54:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the spoilers Alienamy!!
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Post by curious1987 on Aug 13, 2010 4:54:03 GMT -5
Awesome! Lenny looks much younger with longer hair... I still can't believe that the actor is 24.. :-)
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Post by aliceg on Aug 13, 2010 15:28:54 GMT -5
I squeed when I saw that small glimpse of Lenny on that vid Alienamy. Officially can't wait for next week!!!! xx
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Post by cheerios on Aug 13, 2010 16:55:11 GMT -5
I know Lenny is coming back and it's going to be great. I know the boys won't be here for long, but I still don't care. They're going to be together and happy and that makes me happy, even though we don't get to see them anymore.
I like Alex with his longer hair, I think it really suits him and makes him look oh so nice. ;D
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Post by Zathras on Aug 13, 2010 18:49:48 GMT -5
Yaaaayyyy!!!!! ;D ;D ;D I like Alex with his longer hair, I think it really suits him and makes him look oh so nice. ;D I totally agree ;D
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Post by aliceg on Aug 14, 2010 14:10:40 GMT -5
Thanks Zathras for the translation!!! Oh and Lenny's back this week, Lenny's back this week. Lenny's back this week!! Just incase any of you had forgot!!! xxx
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Post by Zathras on Aug 14, 2010 19:45:32 GMT -5
You're welcome, aliceg . I could never forget that Lenny's coming back this week! ;D Also, FYI, I finished the last paragraph and updated my post.
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Post by rtgtx on Aug 14, 2010 20:17:38 GMT -5
Am I the only one who likes/prefers Lenny's short hair? His old hairstyle really brought out his pretty face. And I prefer Carsten's short hair as well; he looked much younger with that.
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Post by cheerios on Aug 15, 2010 0:01:57 GMT -5
Actually I think I like them better with longer hair, maybe because I love to play with guys hair.
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Post by Zathras on Aug 15, 2010 0:35:01 GMT -5
I like Lenny's hair (well, Alexander's) just a bit longer, but maybe not quite as unruly as it seems to be in the clip for next week. There's a pic somewhere on this board (probably in the Alexander Becht thread) where it's in between the old Lenny and the new Lenny, and I like that the best .
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Post by aliceg on Aug 16, 2010 8:29:34 GMT -5
Gah!! I love the new spoiler pic, even if a bit tiny, gosh I am sooooo excited for this week. Oh and just realised I am in Berlin the week that Lenny and Carsten officially leave. Hopefully I will be able to catch some of it 'live.'
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Post by cheerios on Aug 16, 2010 13:05:11 GMT -5
I love the new spoiler pic, Carsten looks so happy to be with Lenny again. From the look of the picture, I think Iris and Alexander took the boys out for dinner, Lucy shows up. Lenny who is completely unaware to Lucy's feelings for Carsten is just enjoying being with Carsten again. They share a kiss which Lucy witness.
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Post by aliceg on Aug 16, 2010 14:10:42 GMT -5
^^ I thought the kiss picture was outside the prison, just because the clothes and background are similar to those in the spoiler vid from gzsz.de. I am prob wrong though, i just assumed the Lucy pic was separate. I can't wait to see these episodes. Thursday can't come fast enough!!!
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Post by cheerios on Aug 16, 2010 14:39:09 GMT -5
It could be a separate photo, I mean it doesn't have to be seeing the boys kissing. Lucy has been down in the dumps about everything lately. But I don't know if the boys would kiss outside the prison since they want to keep Lenny being gay a secret and doesn't he have to go back?
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