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Post by trini on Apr 9, 2015 20:05:55 GMT -5
This is why I will never invest in any of Ste's relationships, I knew this is where it will eventually lead .
I wish I was more shocked by Ste behavior but this have always been a part of who he is, how is this any different from how he treated Doug or Rae but he always got a pass because it involved Brendan.
While I don't expect him to love JP because he was nice to him and took care of him but the least he could have shown that he appreciated him. His willingness to move out without telling JP and laying all the blame on him and all but ridiculing him behind his back shows exactly how he feels.
I hope Ste and Sinead do get together and for their own sake they find happiness with eachother because if they ever turn against eachother I fear what they would do.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Apr 10, 2015 7:53:30 GMT -5
Why is it such a surprise that Ste would end up doing something like this to another person (who again is not BB), who has given themselves to him?
Amy, Rae, Noah, Doug and now JP. It's a damn pattern.
Sadly, Ste and JP will probably end up back together, because the show thinks that they have to keep those two together and nobody wants Ste to end up in a "Will & Grace" relationship with Sinead. They need to have boys kissing.
Ste's an emotionally manuipulative person and now I get why folks who fully embraced him being with a man that physically, emotionally and mentally abused him for years, thought that they were a perfect match.
It was hot, epic, exciting and thrilling to watch Ste and BB sexing each other up, after Ste got his ass whooped by his manly lover.
That's what is the appealing and drawing factor for this segment of the audience. Not the love, devotion and care. The boy kissing, violence and hot sex.
It's too dull to watch Ste, being loved and supported by someone that wants to make sure that he's happy and not confused by having a conversation or being sexed up.
Sigh.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Apr 10, 2015 7:54:52 GMT -5
After tonight's E4, I'm done. They have managed to turn my previous affection for Ste into pure, raging hatred. Worthless, ungrateful POS. I want him to die. That's not positive, isn't it?? So for the sake of my mental health, I'm not going to stick around to watch JP being completely pathetic and with no self-worth, and Ste emotionally abuse and humiliate him while JP takes everything he throws at him. Enough is enough. After the years of abuse that Ste took.
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Post by francescavl on Apr 10, 2015 8:13:10 GMT -5
I misjudged Ste. I always thought of him as a troubled and flawed but ultimately good-hearted guy. I always try to give people (even characters) the benefit of the doubt... but now I realize, finally, that he's just a selfish, self-involved, nasty user with hardly any redeeming qualities anymore.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Apr 10, 2015 9:14:15 GMT -5
I misjudged Ste. I always thought of him as a troubled and flawed but ultimately good-hearted guy. I always try to give people (even characters) the benefit of the doubt... but now I realize, finally, that he's just a selfish, self-involved, nasty user with hardly any redeeming qualities anymore. He is a flawed character and he can be good hearted, but sadly this behavior is how a certain segment of the audience desperately needs him to be seen as at all times, in order to keep him locked and chained to a former two years gone relationship. This is what they need. It's sad and pathetic, but it's what that character is saddled with, until he's killed off or written out of the show. JP has clearly and definitively moved on from Craig Dean. He was allowed to move on. He couldn't function as a character if he kept on living in the past. Even through all the stuff that has happened since his return, he hasn't been written as keeping a light in his bedroom window for Craig's return. Ste on the other hand, continues to sabotage any aspect of allowing his heart and mind to heal from the dysfunctional abuse that has caused him to view someone, anyone who isn't in the form of his abusive ex lover, as not sexually exciting and not dull. That's what saddens me about Ste. He'll never ever be able to move on.
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Post by trini on Apr 10, 2015 10:57:54 GMT -5
I misjudged Ste. I always thought of him as a troubled and flawed but ultimately good-hearted guy. I always try to give people (even characters) the benefit of the doubt... but now I realize, finally, that he's just a selfish, self-involved, nasty user with hardly any redeeming qualities anymore. Ste have been shown to have a good heart but I think at the end of the day he see being nice as being weak and he will take advantage of that. The thing about Ste that people forget is that while he was abused he was also and abuser and not only a physical abuser but and emotional one, I would argue that while he may for the most part stopped being a physical abuser he remains an emotional abuser and I think for the most part he doesn't see this about himself, he actually believes his own lies and is not aware of how he emotionally blackmails and manipulates people. Look at how Ste fights,even when he is clearly in the wrong he switches it to either to how worst it is for him or the person is being whinny for even being mad at him then he walks away, so he is the one end up being chased and therefore is in the position of power. (These are classic abuser behaviour) For the past four years this is what he have done in all his relationships, the only time he goes into nice guy mode his when he feel that they are pulling away from him (It should be noted that this is how Brendan was with him ),where he acts like a kicked puppy who would be lost without them.
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Post by Zathras on Apr 10, 2015 20:23:31 GMT -5
Stop talking about what you think other viewers want to see. Just talk about what you want to see.
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Post by justinate on Apr 21, 2015 2:07:21 GMT -5
I'm actually interested to see where the cross-dressing storyline for Trevor's son will lead. Can't remember soaps tackling this particular topic before. Then again this is Hollyoaks, and under this regime the treatment of such topics has been dismal to say the least.
I'm glad Harry comes to Dylan's defense but, given his own desperation to remain in the closet, I can't see that lasting long before the bullies start extrapolating their slurs to Harry's sexual identity. He's a cute lad (how has he lasted this long without even taking his top off?) and definitely needs a love interest of his own. I don't suppose Sinead's gay cousin can fill that role since he's supposed to be another school employee - but maybe the show would be willing to cross that line with a peripheral character instead of John Paul. I don't think it's going to set the gay community back if Hollyoaks portrays a gay man in a negative light. For shows lacking in LGBT representation, that can be a fair concern when your only gay character is the villain, but Hollyoaks has sufficient LGBT representation that true equality would mean one or two negative portrayals of gay men.
Not LGBT-related, but I wonder if they're going somewhere with Jason's crush on Cindy. Alfie Browne-Sykes might not be the best actor but he is so gorgeous and adorable. He is in dire need of love scenes and I think he'd be hot with cougar Cindy.
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Post by carld2 on Apr 21, 2015 5:23:06 GMT -5
HO has one of the most consistently negative portrayals (Ste) of a gay man I've seen on many a TV show.
I hope this Scott character is better onscreen than he is in photos, because the mugging and uber-camp hysteria when taking pictures of John Paul and Harry (who nearly looks the same age as John Paul) was unbearable to look at.
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Post by talula on May 5, 2015 14:34:45 GMT -5
OMG! we got the answer who is Harry' love interest gonna be linkwell, at least it's not JP
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Post by Zathras on May 5, 2015 19:27:48 GMT -5
Wait, what?
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Post by sunshine0786 on May 5, 2015 19:37:43 GMT -5
Wait, what? That does seem to come from nowhere.
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Post by justinate on May 6, 2015 7:01:57 GMT -5
Oh man, so much for my hopes that Jason would be bi. It was a long shot anyway.
Must Ste and JP go through and share every gay man in the village?
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Post by cheerios on May 6, 2015 11:54:10 GMT -5
Ugh, why Hollyoaks, why?
This is just so cliche and bad writing.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 6, 2015 13:44:36 GMT -5
OMG! we got the answer who is Harry' love interest gonna be linkwell, at least it's not JP Sigh... Ste continues to have all these folks falling for him.
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Post by cheerios on May 6, 2015 15:14:06 GMT -5
Hollyoaks used to be good, now it's just blah.
And of course they would ruin two of my favorite characters and couple do go through with this storyline.
Bad Hollyoaks, no cookie.
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Post by trini on May 6, 2015 18:05:35 GMT -5
Not surprised that they would go down the line of Ste and Harry, Hollyoaks cannot resist the drama that it would cause between Ste and Tony.
What is worse is that I still think the show is still going to have some sort of relationship between Ste and Sinead before they reach the Ste/Harry stuff.
I get that Ste is a popular character but they are throwing to much things at him at once in order to keep the character at the for front of the show.
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Post by dio on May 7, 2015 15:05:26 GMT -5
lmao, mess.
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Post by Zathras on May 7, 2015 20:06:49 GMT -5
I finally watched the clip when Harry opened up a little bit to Ste. I could see a nice mentoring relationship there. Instead they're turning it into a romance (of sorts). I just hope they don't have JP mentor Harry while Harry's messing around with Ste behind his back.
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Post by cheerios on May 12, 2015 23:56:30 GMT -5
I'm just so disappointed with this show, it used to be good.
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Post by jjose712 on May 23, 2015 19:20:28 GMT -5
Frankly they should try a bdsm relationship for John Paul, as long as it's consensual he will be better treated than in all previous ones.
Because frankly Ste treated him like shit, and it's curious how he was in an abusive relationship with Brendan, but in all the other one he was more on the aubsers side (not at the same level of course)
That dysfunctional relationship has a sense when JP and Craig was teenagers, but now JP should known better
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Post by tihkon2 on May 31, 2015 19:57:01 GMT -5
Regarding the spoiler that Lockie starts flirting with John Paul again, and they kiss.... Thank God. I'm hoping they have sexy times, but hopefully Lockie and Porsche are completely done and still split up before that. I don't really want to see them sneaking around behind her back. Anyhow... I hope it's not just a one off kiss. They had very good chemistry last year.
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Post by justinate on Jun 1, 2015 7:50:58 GMT -5
Well, it seems like Lockie will be one of the candidates for Mercedes's baby's father ...
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Post by talula on Jun 1, 2015 14:09:14 GMT -5
Well, it seems like Lockie will be one of the candidates for Mercedes's baby's father ... damn, why they just can't let JP and Lockie have a hot affair finally,they have such insane chemistry, why keep Lockie with all these terrible and annoying women? and what the point of his bisexuality if he never really act on it except of few flirtations scenes with JP?
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Post by Zathras on Jul 1, 2015 0:15:41 GMT -5
I don't like where they're going with the Pete/Cleo spoilers.
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