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Post by cheerios on Oct 16, 2014 13:17:22 GMT -5
Out of all the McQueen's I was really hoping she would find some happiness in her exit. She's lost her inner spark, well so has John Paul. But he's not leaving any time soon and the actress who plays Carmel is. I don't think Hollyoaks has any really good villains at the moment. Well I guess there Patrick, but he's a slime ball. I don't know much about Grace, but she doesn't seem that bad. Sienna just super crazy and I guess Cameron is too, since he's killed Danny and Sam. And seems to getting more and more possessive of Leela and Peri. I wonder since Dodger finds out about Theresa apparently carrying his baby. If he gets custody of the child and wants to raise the baby with Maxime and her child. Or if the McQueen's fight him for custody of the baby. Dodger ups and leaves the village, due to the "stress" of being a father to three kids. Whatever. I hope Danny Mac had a nice holiday during that time away from filming. Dodger should have been able to go to Dirk and ask him for advice. Dirk is his father who raised him, along with his two other children, Will and Liberty. So Dodger ups and leaves when he has people counting on him. Gee what a guy. I get that things are stressful for him, but what about Maxime? She's pregnant with a special needs child with her abusive ex husband. And he just leaves her to her own? I found out she called things off because of Theresa and Dodger's new daughter. But if he takes off that leaves Maxime vulnerable to Patrick and Sienna.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 16, 2014 13:24:27 GMT -5
Dodger ups and leaves the village, due to the "stress" of being a father to three kids. Whatever. I hope Danny Mac had a nice holiday during that time away from filming. Dodger should have been able to go to Dirk and ask him for advice. Dirk is his father who raised him, along with his two other children, Will and Liberty. So Dodger ups and leaves when he has people counting on him. Gee what a guy. I get that things are stressful for him, but what about Maxime? She's pregnant with a special needs child with her abusive ex husband. And he just leaves her to her own? I found out she called things off because of Theresa and Dodger's new daughter. But if he takes off that leaves Maxime vulnerable to Patrick and Sienna. Dodger will be back. It just gives Sienna time to cause havoc for Theresa and for Patrick to try and manipulate Maxine into thinking that he's the only man that truly cares for her. Dodger leaving makes absolutely no sense at all, but to serve the plot.
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Post by cheerios on Oct 16, 2014 14:02:32 GMT -5
So Dodger ups and leaves when he has people counting on him. Gee what a guy. I get that things are stressful for him, but what about Maxime? She's pregnant with a special needs child with her abusive ex husband. And he just leaves her to her own? I found out she called things off because of Theresa and Dodger's new daughter. But if he takes off that leaves Maxime vulnerable to Patrick and Sienna. Dodger will be back. It just gives Sienna time to cause havoc for Theresa and for Patrick to try and manipulate Maxine into thinking that he's the only man that truly cares for her. Dodger leaving makes absolutely no sense at all, but to serve the plot. Didn't he take off last time things were too much for him when his family was going crazy? What's he gonna do when he finds out that Nico is his? He can't keep freaking out and running off. His children need him, Maxime and her child need him.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 16, 2014 15:35:51 GMT -5
Dodger will be back. It just gives Sienna time to cause havoc for Theresa and for Patrick to try and manipulate Maxine into thinking that he's the only man that truly cares for her. Dodger leaving makes absolutely no sense at all, but to serve the plot. Didn't he take off last time things were too much for him when his family was going crazy? What's he gonna do when he finds out that Nico is his? He can't keep freaking out and running off. His children need him, Maxine and her child need him. Dodger will probably run off again (while also shirtless), if it serves the plot to leave Maxine vulnerable again for Patrick. It still amazes me that Hollyoaks changed the ages of both Sienna and Dodger, just so that they could make Nico a product of unknown incest between those two characters. The show just cannot help themselves with messing up storylines from multiple characters past.
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Post by cheerios on Oct 17, 2014 0:46:10 GMT -5
I think one of Hollyoaks biggest flaws is it's gets too wrapped up in itself. In it's crazy drama intense storylines, that they butcher characters, relationships between characters, continuity all for the sake of cliche plots. That are hurting the show more than helping because they are not being done properly. And they are not balancing out all that big things with calmer happier moments anymore.
It makes me sad and annoyed because the pairing of Dodger and Maxime, I was really rooting for them. I had never really been a big fan of Dodger, I found him kind of boring. The classic hunk that all the woman fawn over as he's always shirtless. Who doesn't seem to have much of a personality other than hunky. But I liked Dodger and Maxime together, I thought they work well together and brought out some good qualities with each other. But now I want Maxime to get away from that family with her daughter. I know this is a soap and she's gotta be paired with someone. I like Dennis, but he's leaving, so who would be a better man for Maxime?
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 20, 2014 7:08:32 GMT -5
Great that Amy's back again. Right on time to see how messed up Ste truly is, now that he's on drugs. I don't want JP to feel blame for "causing fallout" between Ste and Amy.
Ste has been given so many ways, opportunities and chances to fix his life, his relationship with his kids and his friendship with Amy. He still continues to screw up and I don't think even he understands why he does that to himself.
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Post by cheerios on Oct 20, 2014 13:37:04 GMT -5
Amy's back?
I'm glad to see her again, I always liked her. I know it's not her job, but I hope she gets through to Ste what a mess he's made of his life.
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Post by Zathras on Oct 21, 2014 19:18:01 GMT -5
So Lockie is bisexual and will have scenes right away with Ste and JP. Interesting.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 22, 2014 5:49:36 GMT -5
Well, I think Lockie is a way to add more drama to JP, Ste and the other characters. Richardson says that the Ste character has a huge storyline coming up for 2015. It'll probably be a mixture of things:
Ste trying to keep himself off of drugs, because his first time in rehab isn't going to work.
Ste trying to keep JP in his life. I think that Lockie will be attracted to his wife's (Porche) cousin (JP) and that's going to cause tension. It'll finally give JP the chance to act like a McQueen: All of the McQueens, with the lone exception of Michaela have slept with their sister's/cousin's men. Ste trying to cope with the possibility of Sinead being pregnant with his baby.
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Post by cheerios on Oct 23, 2014 2:10:50 GMT -5
I really hope that Ste is finally going to get himself on the road to getting himself clean for drugs.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 23, 2014 17:14:41 GMT -5
I really hope that Ste is finally going to get himself on the road to getting himself clean for drugs. Hope springs eternal.
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Post by cheerios on Oct 24, 2014 12:28:38 GMT -5
I really hope that Ste is finally going to get himself on the road to getting himself clean for drugs. Hope springs eternal. Well that and I don't find his drug storyline that interesting. He just keeps spiraling and hurting the people he loves and himself. I know it's realistic, but it's just the same crap over and over. Hollyoaks does this constant loop with their characters. Never really having them change or grow and having them pull the same stuff over and over.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 26, 2014 7:17:58 GMT -5
Well that and I don't find his drug storyline that interesting. He just keeps spiraling and hurting the people he loves and himself. I know it's realistic, but it's just the same crap over and over. Hollyoaks does this constant loop with their characters. Never really having them change or grow and having them pull the same stuff over and over. Well, that's Hollyoaks. It's easier for them to keep these characters doing the same damaging things over and over, until one of the actors chooses to leave, or the show realizes that the character and/or actor doesn't have a huge Twitter fanbase that they can monitor via social media and the write them out of the show, via death, pregnancy or leaving with their OTP. Sandy Roscoe is the lone exception. She got to leave the village, without being pregnant, no one was trying to kill her and her fiance had been murdered months ago, so she didn't have her Sunset Ending.
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Post by atlanticslide on Oct 26, 2014 21:21:23 GMT -5
Well, that's Hollyoaks. It's easier for them to keep these characters doing the same damaging things over and over, until one of the actors chooses to leave, or the show realizes that the character and/or actor doesn't have a huge Twitter fanbase that they can monitor via social media and the write them out of the show, via death, pregnancy or leaving with their OTP. Pretty much. Sometimes I can just throw up my hands and go with it, but sometimes it just gets really tedious. Like Sienna, for example - it's absolutely mind-boggling that anyone would trust a word that comes out of her mouth, let alone trust her around their baby. This is the same woman who several weeks ago stabbed Dodger, and yet he just takes her word for it that they slept together? And lets himself be talked into doubting Maxine's innocence? (Granted, Dodger is pretty dumb) Sienna is an occasionally fun and interesting character, but it's just the same thing with her over and over again, and characters are dumbed down to neanderthal levels in order to justify her continuing to run around the village freely manipulating people. And speaking of Maxine, how many times do we need to see an innocent character framed for something and thrown in jail (especially a woman)? Seems like it happens at least twice a year now. If Maxine had any sense, she'd skip town as soon as she's released (however that ends up happening) and hightail it back to California to live with Mitzee.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 27, 2014 5:22:08 GMT -5
Well, that's Hollyoaks. It's easier for them to keep these characters doing the same damaging things over and over, until one of the actors chooses to leave, or the show realizes that the character and/or actor doesn't have a huge Twitter fanbase that they can monitor via social media and the write them out of the show, via death, pregnancy or leaving with their OTP. Pretty much. Sometimes I can just throw up my hands and go with it, but sometimes it just gets really tedious. Like Sienna, for example - it's absolutely mind-boggling that anyone would trust a word that comes out of her mouth, let alone trust her around their baby. This is the same woman who several weeks ago stabbed Dodger, and yet he just takes her word for it that they slept together? And lets himself be talked into doubting Maxine's innocence? (Granted, Dodger is pretty dumb) Sienna is an occasionally fun and interesting character, but it's just the same thing with her over and over again, and characters are dumbed down to neanderthal levels in order to justify her continuing to run around the village freely manipulating people. And speaking of Maxine, how many times do we need to see an innocent character framed for something and thrown in jail (especially a woman)? Seems like it happens at least twice a year now. If Maxine had any sense, she'd skip town as soon as she's released (however that ends up happening) and hightail it back to California to live with Mitzee. But why would Maxine use whatever sense she has for that day, week or month for her next storyline arc? Both Maxine AND Nancy should be teaming up to try and get Sienna and Patrick out of the village and their lives. Not this BS of Nancy going to him, to get him to use his "better nature". None of this makes sense. When I think back on it, after Mitzee was released from jail, she wasn't hanging around with Mercedes or Browning. All three of them lived in the village, but they never ran into each other. Yet, Maxine and Nancy have to constantly deal with those crazy loons.
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Post by cheerios on Oct 27, 2014 13:27:43 GMT -5
Since Dodger is useless and keeps having children with lying, murdering, psycho woman. I hope once Maxine is cleared (since the actress isn't going anywhere) that she gets away from all of them and walks away from the craziness that is that family.
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Post by trini on Oct 28, 2014 10:00:35 GMT -5
The reason why Ste's storyline is dull is because how can a character hits rock bottom if they are always down? How many time have Ste been on 'the brink'. Kieron is a good actor and his great in their scenes but they feel more like they are just giving him over dramatic award bait scenes rather than telling a story it is not compelling.
As for Lockie and JP this is just to throw more drama at the Ste JP relationship, and give JP some thing more to do and cause tension in the McQueen household.We know that there is a Christmas special with JP and Ste,so you know there is more to happen between the both of them.
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Post by justinate on Oct 28, 2014 11:30:42 GMT -5
So Carmel dies. Saddened but not surprised. The show does love to kill, kill, kill. There are much more reprehensible and unlikable characters who deserved the (literal) axe before her. They could at least have let her leave the show alive to fight another day. There is no such thing as a happy ending on Hollyoaks anymore - or only villains get them. Protagonists must suffer till their dying breath.
Ste hits rock bottom? Does he dig another level lower every time he's down there? Because it certainly seems like he's hit rock bottom dozens of times now. The writers must think this is the only thing the character's good for now. I hope Amy takes the kids and runs as far away as possible. I don't suppose he even remembers that Doug died a year ago.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 29, 2014 6:06:28 GMT -5
I think Ste continues to dig more levels of rock bottom for himself as a reaction of all the things he sees as the failure of his life and the decisions that he's made.
I think that Ste does remember that he lost Doug - the husband that supported him through everything (including him leaving him for his abusive and murderous lover), Danny - his long-lost father, Pauline - his abusive mother, Sam - a woman that tried to be someone that could support him, Brendan - the man that sparked his bad decisions and the continued fractured state of his relationship with Leah, Lucas and Amy.
That Ste cannot fathom waiting a four whole weeks for a spot in rehab, that he thinks getting sent to prison would be better, shows the state of mind Ste is in right now.
He hates himself. I just wish that I could give a crap about it, because Ste continues to have folks around him that DO care about him. He's not alone and he hasn't been alone, without at least one person telling him that he could be that better person he says he wants to be (Amy, Doug, JP, Leah, his sisters. Hell, even Sinead and Tony from time to time.)
It's how he acts that continues to be his downfall.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Oct 29, 2014 6:16:22 GMT -5
Agreed and it solidifies JP as a McQueen, in that almost all his sisters and female cousins (with the exception of Michaela) have attracted or slept with their siblings man during their time on the show. Lockie's engaged to JP's cousin. He finds that out AFTER flirting with him, even though JP is currently with Ste. After surviving his drug overdose.
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Post by trini on Nov 10, 2014 15:14:54 GMT -5
So Ste is going to be a daddy again as it have been confirm that Sinead is pregnant with his child. They are really trying to entrench the bond between Ste and Sinead.
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Post by Zathras on Nov 10, 2014 20:24:41 GMT -5
Well, we didn't see this coming, did we? Anyway, I'm not thrilled with some of what that article has to say. "In a hilarious plot ..." Hilarious, really? "... Sinead will move in with Ste and John Paul in what's being described backstage as a 'Will and Grace' style set up." Really? I just don't even know what to say to this.
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Post by talula on Nov 10, 2014 21:05:56 GMT -5
So Ste is going to be a daddy again as it have been confirm that Sinead is pregnant with his child. They are really trying to entrench the bond between Ste and Sinead. this is so annoying (i hate Sinead ),but we all knew it's coming, well, now with Lockie in the picture it's clear where JP/Ste "love story" is coming
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Post by trini on Nov 11, 2014 6:05:46 GMT -5
Well it have been confirm that Ste and JP are getting married. I do know what Hollyoaks is doing with this pair.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Nov 11, 2014 12:57:33 GMT -5
Well it have been confirm that Ste and JP are getting married. I do know what Hollyoaks is doing with this pair. Ahahahaha Ahahahaha You know that sonething or someone aka Ste will screw things up and JP will still end up married to him. LOL
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