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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 8, 2009 9:56:59 GMT -5
I only want Fos back if he has a new face as well. Yeah... maybe Pauline will surprise me. I'm just not really a fan of stunt casting... But maybe she CAN act.
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Post by Brechtje on Dec 8, 2009 11:24:15 GMT -5
Haha well, I just don't like Pauline ever since I saw an episode of Gooische Meisjes were she was driving, calling on her cellphone and put on make-up at the same time.. and then missed an exit and instead of waiting for the next one, she threw her car over the entire road (she was on the left).. I have something agains people driving insanely.. And I loved the former Florien.. But we'll see, maybe you both are right and she'll astonish us.. And about Fos, I don't know if I want him recasted.. I really like him in Spangas as Koen, so I don't think he should leave there.. Recast would be fine I guess, Just that I liked the friendship of Noud and Fos back then
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Post by ari on Dec 8, 2009 12:58:48 GMT -5
Bringing back a former girlfriend of Noud sounds like Lucas and Noud really will go the couples route. Most soaps who have a male gay couple storyline, include a woman at the beginning. Florian will probably go after Noud especially if he's with Lucas, or Noud will try to get back with her to prove to himself that he's not gay or bi-sexual. And Lucas will become a basket- case if he isn't already by this time. It could be a good story if that's the way it plays out.
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Post by Brechtje on Dec 8, 2009 13:06:09 GMT -5
That's entirely true and it could be a good story. But it would be a lot like other stories and that's the part I don't like, since Lucas has been so different than all the others from the start. What I hope (if she comes back at all, since it's just a rumor and not yet confirmed by RTL) is that she will come back when Noud and Lukas already are a steady couple (if that happens, we don't know that either) and she is just way confused about it and tries to take Noud from Lukas, but Noud being really committed and in love and saying that he won't leave Lukas.. that would be cool, IMO =D
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Post by kyliah22 on Dec 9, 2009 5:56:59 GMT -5
That's entirely true and it could be a good story. But it would be a lot like other stories and that's the part I don't like, since Lucas has been so different than all the others from the start. What I hope (if she comes back at all, since it's just a rumor and not yet confirmed by RTL) is that she will come back when Noud and Lukas already are a steady couple (if that happens, we don't know that either) and she is just way confused about it and tries to take Noud from Lukas, but Noud being really committed and in love and saying that he won't leave Lukas.. that would be cool, IMO =D Well IF Lucas and Noud will be a couple! As I read in the spoiler discussion they were supposed to kiss and that didn't happen, ecxept than in Lucas' fantasy! So was that the kiss everyone was talking about? Mah... Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the idea of Lucas and Noud together but as for now it just seems that Lucas is falling for Noud, but not the contrary. I guess we have to wait and see what happens
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Post by I ♥ Blaine on Dec 9, 2009 7:04:33 GMT -5
That's entirely true and it could be a good story. But it would be a lot like other stories and that's the part I don't like, since Lucas has been so different than all the others from the start. What I hope (if she comes back at all, since it's just a rumor and not yet confirmed by RTL) is that she will come back when Noud and Lukas already are a steady couple (if that happens, we don't know that either) and she is just way confused about it and tries to take Noud from Lukas, but Noud being really committed and in love and saying that he won't leave Lukas.. that would be cool, IMO =D Well IF Lucas and Noud will be a couple! As I read in the spoiler discussion they were supposed to kiss and that didn't happen, ecxept than in Lucas' fantasy! So was that the kiss everyone was talking about? Mah... Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the idea of Lucas and Noud together but as for now it just seems that Lucas is falling for Noud, but not the contrary. I guess we have to wait and see what happens OT: Girl... LOVE your youtube channel!!
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Post by cheerios on Dec 11, 2009 14:58:44 GMT -5
Ok it's not sure who Lucas's love interest will be (and I do hope his love is returned) because after hearing that Aaron and Adam will never happen, I want a happy storyline of love for Lucas.
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Post by agcaife17 on Dec 14, 2009 10:31:45 GMT -5
Are they really going to be a couple? From what I see so far, Noud is hopeless.
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Post by Ailyne on Dec 14, 2009 10:49:43 GMT -5
i still think that Lucas and his sisters boyfriend should get it on...lol...i dont really like this Noud guy ...just sayin lol
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 14, 2009 12:35:46 GMT -5
We just don't know what will happen. But I disagree with you. I LOOOOOVE Noud. ;D
Not a real spoiler, but I guess a little spoilerish: It looks like Lucas will be part of the 4000th episode. Ferry tweeted today that he can't wait to film the 4000th episode.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 14, 2009 14:58:00 GMT -5
Shortie for tomorrow: www.rtl.nl/components/soaps/gtst/shorties/miMedia/2009/week51/ma_gtst_3942_sv_10040720091214.avi_plain.xmlLucas: How bad is this? Noud trying to fix me up with a guy. Nina: Then you should've been honest to him. Lucas: I'm warning you. You won't say a word. Nina: You know how discrete I am. Lucas: Exactly. Lucas: Well, it's obvious that your theory isn't happening. Noud sees nothing in me. Nina: My theory is that he doesn't see you as a potential lover yet because he doesn't look at guys that way. Lucas: No, because he's straight. Nina: Or he's not yet out of the closet. Noud: It's no fun anymore with that guy. It's as if I'm spending time with an offended chick. Jef: Maybe that sleepover created other expectations for him. Noud: We just came home, drunk, he fell asleep. That's it. Martijn: It's possible he started seeing you in a different way. Noud: No, of course not. Jef: If I would accidentally wake up next to a woman I would look at that woman in a different way as well. Nina: I had that once as well. That I liked a girl so much that I was thinking: Am I attracted to her? You never had that? Noud: Yes, every day. Nina: Really? Noud: Yes, with every hot chick walking by I have certain thoughts. Nina: And with guys? Do you ever have certain thoughts about guys? Dex: Why don't we call Noud for that faucet? That's your honey, right? Or did I misunderstand that? Lucas: I don't know what you're thinking, but it's not true. Dex: Too bad. I really like you two together. Lucas: Where did you hear this nonsense anyway? Dex: Everyone can see that. Except Noud, who's only busy with himself. I'm curious to know what he thinks when he hears this.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 14, 2009 16:50:37 GMT -5
Thanks so much, Mark! I couldn't figure out what Dex and Lucas were saying to each other. I was hoping Dex would start to be nicer to Lucas, but here he is threatening him.
Doesn't look encouraging for Lucas getting his feelings returned. Noud had better put 2 & 2 together soon or I'm going to question his intelligence.
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Post by Yogi on Dec 14, 2009 19:24:01 GMT -5
Why is Dex getting involve in Lucas and Noud's business? Is he jealous? hmmm.....
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Post by justinate on Dec 14, 2009 20:49:03 GMT -5
Hmm, I am intrigued. Is Noud genuinely that clueless? Is Lucas being set up for heartbreak, or could it be possible that Noud really is not in tune with his gay "side"?
As for Dexas, I'm not sure it's going to happen. I suspect all the haters will be out in full force if it did.
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Post by cosmic on Dec 15, 2009 0:39:28 GMT -5
Ahhh! I jumped ship so quickly to supporting and rooting for Noucas or Loud or whatever we're calling Lucas/Noud...But, I feel like the show is teasing us that there's still a possibility of Dexas o_0" It's messing with my head! ...I guess I'd be fine with either, though, I'm kind of set on Lucas/Noud right now XD.
Also, I love how the actor who plays Ludo sounds like he has an English accent when he speaks in English. It makes me smile like a giggly school girl, for some reason I can't explain hehe.
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Post by bdc on Dec 15, 2009 9:11:34 GMT -5
Also, I love how the actor who plays Ludo sounds like he has an English accent when he speaks in English. It makes me smile like a giggly school girl, for some reason I can't explain hehe. It's the same for me ;D
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 15, 2009 12:01:11 GMT -5
we know there's a gay-bashing thing coming involving Lucas and Noud - not something I'm particularly looking forward to, but GTST has been great so far, so I'll reserve judgement. but the new spoilers almost make it sound if Dex is somehow behind it... shocking, if true. I'm not against it. As long as if it's done well. Somehow I think the show won't disappoint me. But I agree that it would be shocking if Dex had something to do with it.
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Post by stl29tide on Dec 15, 2009 12:22:21 GMT -5
Only one day of them next week? At least I'll have Christmas plans to keep me busy and distracted. I wonder what Lucas' reaction will be when Noud asks him for dinner and if Noud will finally get a clue. And Dex if he has something to do with getting Lucas and Noud beat up.....it will be really hard for me to just let it go this time. You can only make excuses for someone so many times. I wonder how this whole getting beaten up thing will play on Noud's feelings. Is he still totally straight and he'll just feel bad that Lucas has to go through things like that or will he eventually start to feel things for Lucas he didn't know was possible, but, maybe not want to pursue them because of things like this? It'll be interesting to see everything that comes from it, but, I have faith the show will do it right. Gosh, now I wish it was two weeks from now so we could have those spoilers as well. This show's frustrating sometimes, but, I love it so much.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 15, 2009 12:36:43 GMT -5
Only one day of them next week? I think it's possible we will see them more than once. Usually around Christmas you see a lot of character and they obviously can't mention everyone in the spoilers.
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 15, 2009 12:55:31 GMT -5
I agree with Mark about the bashing. Violence of this kind is a part of our lives as out gay folks and it's something folks don't like to talk about or see but it's very real even in liberal countries with lots of protections for gays. You can't legislate bigotry out of the minds of some people. If the story is done well, I think it could be great and give Ferry and Ruud and Emiel a lot of room to explore the emotions of that kind of storyline. lso, I think Noud might be bisexual and he just hasn't considered that fact before. I don't think he's gay, I don't think he has to be gay to fall for Lucas and I think he's the kind of guy who would just have come out already if he was gay. If you're gay, you usually know at an early age even if you don't admit it to yourself or anyone else, you have desire for boys, it's not something you can ignore in yourself But if you have desire for both boys and girls (maybe not even equally) you could not even really pay attention to boys (if you're a boy) because you're focused on girls (which the entire world is encouraging you to do). The hetereonormativity of everyday life could just drown out any fledgling feelings you might have for a particular boy until one special boy comes along. I really do think (unlike being gay) bisexuality can kinda sneak up on you if you're open stuf and not homophobic and I think it would me an amazing thing if the show kind of let that ride. It's definitely something I've never seen explored with young guys on a tv show. I really just don't think Dex is gay or bi. Obviously I could be astoundingly wrong!! This show is full of surprises. But from what I see, Dex and Noud have long term beef. Dex hates Noud, they are rivals (long before Lucas) so of course he would give Noud a hard time for hanging out with Lucas (whom he also hates). Dex is also so incredibly insecure about his own masculinity that I'm sure the idea of a straight guy like Noud being completely comfortable being close with Lucas just makes his head spin. Obviously only time will tell but writing Dex as a closeted character just makes me sigh heavily, very heavily. It would take everything that is original and unique and fabulous about this storyline so far and just make it kinda blah!. I just don't think a closeted guy in this kind of situation would behave the way Dex does when he has a completely supportive family and friends who are totally not homophobic. People have asked him if he's gay like a hundred times so far. His father, sister, mother, grandmother, Nina, Lucas, everyone by the mailman. It's not that I don't want Dex and Lucas together, it's just that I don't see how in the world the show could have it make sense or seem likely for Dex to come out after all this time. I also just can't see Lucas doing that to Nina under any circumstances. He's not the duplicitous type (at least as far as we've seen) and he obviously isn't very good at hiding his feelings (like with Janine and now with Noud). IDK. Getting Dex and Lucas together just seems like it would have to be very contrived to make it happen and so far the show has been the total opposite of that for me. The machinations the show would have to go through to get Dex to come out or fall in love with Lucas seem like they'd take a year to accomplish. I also really love Nina and Dex together. I love that their fathers are rivals and Ludo is out to get Martijn. I think they are good for each other and I could see them having a totally interesting, drama filled relationship. Am I crazy?
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Post by stl29tide on Dec 15, 2009 13:10:46 GMT -5
No, you're not. I agree with everything you said. If they do make Dex just a closet case, I fear this story will eventually turn into everything we've already seen before. Oh, and I don't think Noud is gay. I agree that if he were, I think he would've come out a long time ago, but, I do think that he could eventually develop feelings for Lucas as well, making him....bisexual! You are right, it seems in the soap world no one can ever be bisexual. Everyone is always labeled as gay or straight.
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Post by maya on Dec 15, 2009 13:18:58 GMT -5
At first after we found out that Dex was abused when he was a child I was pretty sure that he wasn't a possible love interest for Lucas anymore, but after have seen the spoilers for the upcoming weeks I've started to change my mind.
I was also sure that Dex would have changed behaviour towards Lucas, but the fact that his hostility still remain strong and that Dex and Lucas are still written in each other's storyline make me wonder if the endgame for the writers is indeed Dexas
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 15, 2009 14:23:28 GMT -5
You are right, it seems in the soap world no one can ever be bisexual. Everyone is always labeled as gay or straight. GTST had a couple of bisexual characters, but they had more relationships with the opposite sex. One of those characters is Morris, Barbara's son. He's also Nina's ex-boyfriend (She mentioned him to Lucas in one of the early episodes).
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Post by dutchfan on Dec 15, 2009 14:38:56 GMT -5
Isabella definitely had just as much relationships with women as with men though. She was the most outspoken bisexual character. And I wish they would just bring her back. I know the writers want to. My guess is Victoria doesn't wanna come back yet.
Charlie was just experimenting though. I never believed she genuinely loved Isabella.
But I agree, GTST has had a LOT of bisexual characters.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 15, 2009 14:44:15 GMT -5
I really can't wait to see tomorrow's scenes between Noud and Laura where Laura tells Noud about how she was once head over heels in love with a woman. Great use of history.
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