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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 2, 2009 9:13:29 GMT -5
I think that's too soon to tell. They never reveal big things in the spoilers. We already know that Lucas is gay so a spoiler about him falling in love with Noud makes sense.
I think they don't want to spoil Noud returning those feelings (IF that happens). They would probably keep that a secret so they can reveal that on the show.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 2, 2009 13:26:07 GMT -5
Do you think if they do romantically paired Noud and Lucas as boyfriends that they would have the same displays of affection that any straight couple would have on the show. Though I don't know how much do they actually show to begin with.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 2, 2009 13:33:43 GMT -5
I think they would be treated the same way. We already know the show isn't afraid to show two guys shirtless in bed together and we already saw Lucas in a passionate kiss in that elevator.
But the show doesn't show a lot of sex scenes in the first place and what we usually see is what leads up to the sex and then the afterglow.
But I don't think the first time for example would happen offscreen. In the past we've already seen a threesome scene between two guys and a girl. They didn't shy away from the male/male affection in that bed scene.
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Post by justinate on Dec 2, 2009 17:43:23 GMT -5
In the past we've already seen a threesome scene between two guys and a girl. They didn't shy away from the male/male affection in that bed scene. Uh, Mark, you do know when you make claims like that, you need to substantiate them with the appropriate evidence ;D. Just to clarify what you're saying, you know.
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Post by dutchfan on Dec 2, 2009 18:00:01 GMT -5
well, this wasn't on youtube but there was an insanely hot sex scene between Sjors and Danny last week.
I don't think GTST will shy away from male/male sex scenes. Not many people remember this one, but I recall a bizarre plot where Stan (this is early 90s) had to pretend to be gay in order to gain some info from some guy (this was back when GTST only did stereotypical portrayals of gays). But I do vaguely recall a scene where the two men were in bed together.
And of course Morris has had enough guy on guy action as well. There's no reason to assume GTST would treat its gay characters differently. In fact this whole storyline in largely in response to criticism from gay rights organizations who complained about the lack of visible gay characters on the show. GTST reaches many households and has a strong market share so it's pretty influential in the lives of young people.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 2, 2009 18:05:31 GMT -5
I guess I just don't know the country where this show is based views and treatments of homosexuals.
Sadly here in the US we still have a long way before homosexual are treated equally.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 2, 2009 18:11:41 GMT -5
I wish I could give you the evidence! But all the evidence was destroyed... I mean, I can't find anything about it online. ;D But I've seen it with my own eyes! Really! It was the character Morris (Barbara's son who's in jail now). He's bi. Nina mentioned him at the start of the season (they were a couple). I did find this pic a while ago of a kiss: Morris is on the left. The other guy is not the same guy as from the threesome though.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 2, 2009 20:54:54 GMT -5
The shortie for tomorrow has a lot of interesting scenes. I know a fair number of Dutch words and sometimes I understand what is being said and sometimes I don't. Looks like at least initially, Noud has no sense of being attracted to Lucas.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 2, 2009 22:55:25 GMT -5
Well I think Noud has just always assumed only girls make him feel that way. He's never been attracted (as far as we know) to a guy before. But Lucas is different and I think Noud just feel that spark with Lucas. I think Noud might be a little wary of it, but I don't seem him freaking out and going jerk territory if he realize he was falling for Lucas.
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Post by stl29tide on Dec 2, 2009 23:09:39 GMT -5
^^^^^I concur and I don't really see Noud having those feelings for Lucas yet.....at least him realizing it. I think he's more comfortable with Lucas than he has been with any other guy because Noud has always been this 'macho man' which is why Nina looked kind of worried/hesitant when she told Noud that Lucas was gay, but, he's never had a problem with it and I could never see Noud taking home another one of his friends, putting him in his bed and taking his clothes off for him. I don't think it's going to be something that happens right away for him, but after Lucas starts falling for Noud and the tension starts to build, I think Noud will perhaps start questioning his own feelings. They obviously formed a bond with each other very quickly and I think there's a reason for that.
I also don't see him as the type who will go all jerky and push Lucas away. I think after he gets over the initial hesitation, he's not one to let what other people think stand in his way of being happy.
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Post by nyongmanado on Dec 3, 2009 2:51:11 GMT -5
Noud and Lucas have such a nice friendship. I personally wouldn't mind at all if they stayed as good friends who were not afraid of showing their non-sexual affections to each other.
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Post by justinate on Dec 3, 2009 8:25:16 GMT -5
I wish I could give you the evidence! But all the evidence was destroyed... I mean, I can't find anything about it online. ;D But I've seen it with my own eyes! Really! But I wanted to see it with MY own eyes! It would have been such a relief to have fantasy material evidence. ;D
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 4, 2009 12:54:37 GMT -5
So like I said in the General Discussion thread... Ferry and Ruud were interviewed by RTL Boulevard today. RTL Boulevard is on now. It looks like they're going to save the interview for at the end of the show, but they're saying that they have an interview coming up with "GTST's first gay couple".
So... Noucas happening? *excited*
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Post by stl29tide on Dec 4, 2009 13:08:38 GMT -5
What??!!!! Oh man, what I wouldn't give to be able to speak the language!
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 4, 2009 13:15:09 GMT -5
I'm recording it, so I will upload it with subs. If I don't get another error of course... *knocks on wood* But there's a re-run around midnight so there's always a second chance if it's necessary. OKAY! They just showed a small preview of the interview (it's commercial break now). Ferry (about Ruud): He's a good kisser by the way.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 4, 2009 13:26:55 GMT -5
Okay... Now I'm even MORE confused. I have no idea if they were serious or not... ;D
But Ruud and Ferry are great to watch together. It's obvious that they are friends in real life as well.
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Post by placebo on Dec 4, 2009 13:29:04 GMT -5
Mark, I just wanted to make sure you know you're my hero and I'll happily bounce around this message board, waiting for the interview. Thanks you so much for everything you do for us! *bounces*
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Post by stl29tide on Dec 4, 2009 13:44:35 GMT -5
^^^^Me Too!!!!
*Oh, I'm freaking out at all the possibilities*
"He's a good kisser by the way." <<< I hope he wasn't joking! God, please, don't let him be joking!
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Post by kyliah22 on Dec 4, 2009 14:17:28 GMT -5
Oh my God! *___* I love this soap and Noud and Lucas are awsome together! Yes, they're really good friends but in my opinion they would be much better as boyfriends! I really hope this is going to happen! I can hardly wait to see it!
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 5, 2009 12:46:54 GMT -5
By using advanced probability algorithms developed at MIT during the 1960s under a then secret military contract, I've been able to determine that there's a 96.387% chance of Noucas occurring whereas just a 3.612% chance for Dexas. Jacas has a 0.001% chance. Seriously, IMO GTST has clearly moved past the period of keeping viewers guessing about who Lucas will hook up with and is now simply promoting the Noucas storyline.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 5, 2009 13:25:58 GMT -5
By using advanced probability algorithms developed at MIT during the 1960s under a then secret military contract, I've been able to determine that there's a 96.387% chance of Noucas occurring whereas just a 3.612% chance for Dexas. Jacas has a 0.001% chance. That's so cute. ;D Seriously, IMO GTST has clearly moved past the period of keeping viewers guessing about who Lucas will hook up with and is now simply promoting the Noucas storyline. I think you're right, but I'm still in wait-and-see. But if it's true I really love the way they're doing it. They don't come out and say "Lucas and Noud will fall in love with each other". I like that.
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Post by Brechtje on Dec 6, 2009 10:25:26 GMT -5
I'm so hoping for Noucas to really happen! And well, let's just wait and see.. Can't wait to see tuesday's episode, with the intimit moment that will be interupted. I actually think that they already kissed if you watch the interview, because when Ruud is talking about how he would react to a kiss in the script, Ferry kinda laughed like 'what are you talking about, we've already kissed'. But well, that just my interpretation
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Post by harmonium on Dec 6, 2009 11:23:21 GMT -5
Too bad Dexas is not happening. But at least Noudcas is a great compensation!! Can't wait for the story unfolds.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 6, 2009 15:04:43 GMT -5
Is there mistletoe in Holland? I was trying to think of a way that Noud and Lucas could share a kiss and yet Noud remains clueless that Lucas is developing feelings for him. Maybe someone holds mistletoe over their heads as a joke and Noud, comfortable as he is, plays along and kisses Lucas.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Dec 6, 2009 17:13:18 GMT -5
Is there mistletoe in Holland? Yes, we call it "maretak". I do think the use of mistletoe during Christmas is more common in the US, but we do know it. And Lucas definitely knows about it since he's been living in New York the last couple of years.
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