Nitty
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Post by Nitty on Nov 22, 2009 19:36:14 GMT -5
Seth? ;D I hope he is for Lucas.
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Post by maya on Nov 22, 2009 22:21:33 GMT -5
Honestly I hope that Seth is not for Lucas, for me it's been enough frustrating not be able to understand who is/will be Lucas love interest between Dex and Noud and if neither of them will be romantically involved with him I will be very disappointed. I mean if after what we saw so far Lucas will start dating some random guy never seen before what's the point and where's the storyline??
JMHO of course...
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 22, 2009 23:43:04 GMT -5
Well, maybe it has something to do with having a major crush on Seth when he was on GTST's sister-soap ONM, but I would not have a problem with a Lucas/Seth's character pairing.
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Post by valso on Nov 23, 2009 9:20:35 GMT -5
Seth is very good looking but I tend to agree with Maya. If Lucas will end up with a new guy it seems to me they had wasted months of building tension and story between Lucas and Dex (and Noud eventually) when the story wasn't about Lucas and Dex relationship but simply about Dex affronting his trauma event in his past. And I would like also to see some romance, some obstacles in a story before the two guys end up together, it's usually what makes me want and root that they end up together at last, obviously that's my jtco.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 23, 2009 9:36:03 GMT -5
Well, it looks like you won't have anyhing to worry about. ;D Another newspaper ( Algemeen Dagblad) wrote about it today and they're saying he's going to play the role of Paul Karels. An internet date of Ronja. It's a guest role for 4 weeks. There goes my Ferry/Seth fantasy! ;D No, but seriously, I do think there's more story potential with Noud or Dex especially because they have connections with other characters.
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Post by maya on Nov 23, 2009 10:02:20 GMT -5
I'm relieved. Seth is really good looking, but I prefer Dex or Noud (or both ) for Lucas... I think the story will be much more interesting...
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Post by placebo on Nov 23, 2009 12:56:53 GMT -5
*shallow on* Well, there sure are lots of good-looking guys walking around in the Netherlands. *thinks about cutting trip to Berlin short and going to Amsterdam instead* *shallow off*
At the moment I'm rooting for some Noucas romance and Dex working out what ever it is individually. That could be really interesting as well, and one might see if it doesn't eventually lead to Dexas. *fingers secretly still crossed*
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 26, 2009 0:13:28 GMT -5
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Post by bdc on Nov 26, 2009 3:50:51 GMT -5
On Friday's episode Dex finally talks to Irene. He says that his "fucking soccer coach couldn't keep his hands off him in the shower". Great acting by Emiel! POOR Dex, now we know why he acted so enraged with Lucas, everytime he touched him...
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Post by cheerios on Nov 26, 2009 11:45:59 GMT -5
On Friday's episode Dex finally talks to Irene. He says that his "fucking soccer coach couldn't keep his hands off him in the shower". Great acting by Emiel! POOR Dex, now we know why he acted so enraged with Lucas, everytime he touched him... True, and it is horrible for Dex. But he really shouldn't take what happen to him out on Lucas. I do hope when Dex works through his issues he dolls out one major apology to Nina and Lucas.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 26, 2009 11:59:28 GMT -5
Sure... in a perfect world...
But I don't think you can really blame Dex for not dealing with a traumatic experience the perfect way... I think Lucas brought all these feelings back to the surface. Of course it's not Lucas' fault, but I don't think it's fair to say that Dex shouldn't lash out at Lucas..
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Post by lovecars100 on Nov 26, 2009 12:42:24 GMT -5
Oh Dex:( It's just that Lucas might be the only gay guy he had to interact with (Maybe the only one he knew), and everytime he sees Lucas he is reminded of the guy who molested him...Hope he resolves this issue soon (with the help of Sair;). Hope this doesnt prevent Dexas from happening.
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Post by Yogi on Nov 26, 2009 23:39:09 GMT -5
Dex must've been a young boy when he got molested. It's very likely his coach was a straight male, since Homosexuals only make up less than 3% of pedophilia cases.
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Post by cheerios on Nov 27, 2009 0:49:15 GMT -5
Sure... in a perfect world... But I don't think you can really blame Dex for not dealing with a traumatic experience the perfect way... I think Lucas brought all these feelings back to the surface. Of course it's not Lucas' fault, but I don't think it's fair to say that Dex shouldn't lash out at Lucas.. As someone whose been in Dex's shoes. I know that it only feels worse when you punish the ones who reminds you of what happen instead of getting it out there and dealing with it.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 27, 2009 1:54:07 GMT -5
Sure... in a perfect world... But I don't think you can really blame Dex for not dealing with a traumatic experience the perfect way... I think Lucas brought all these feelings back to the surface. Of course it's not Lucas' fault, but I don't think it's fair to say that Dex shouldn't lash out at Lucas.. As someone whose been in Dex's shoes. I know that it only feels worse when you punish the ones who reminds you of what happen instead of getting it out there and dealing with it. I understand that. I really do. And I'm so sorry to hear you've been in Dex' shoes... I might've misunderstood your previous post... It was like you were trying to say that Dex should just snap out of it or something like that... I think "getting it out there and dealing with it" is easier said than done. Anyway, we know Dex will realize because of Sair that he shouldn't be angry at Lucas. There's another spoiler for next week where Dex apologizes to Nina. Don't know if he'll apologize to Lucas as well. I do think he's not going to tell Nina about the abuse, because Nina won't think his apology is enough.
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Post by cheerios on Nov 27, 2009 2:46:30 GMT -5
As someone whose been in Dex's shoes. I know that it only feels worse when you punish the ones who reminds you of what happen instead of getting it out there and dealing with it. I understand that. I really do. And I'm so sorry to hear you've been in Dex' shoes... I might've misunderstood your previous post... It was like you were trying to say that Dex should just snap out of it or something like that... I think "getting it out there and dealing with it" is easier said than done. Anyway, we know Dex will realize because of Sair that he shouldn't be angry at Lucas. There's another spoiler for next week where Dex apologizes to Nina. Don't know if he'll apologize to Lucas as well. I do think he's not going to tell Nina about the abuse, because Nina won't think his apology is enough. Oh I don't want Dex to snap out of it. Because I know that you can't. I thought I could just forget about it like it was nothing and went out for some harmless fun one night with a nice cute boy. We just made out and I had a flashback and freaked out and never called him back. Dex is in his own way right now, he feels violated, dirty, and probably guilty. Victims in his case usually bury what happen to them because they are ashamed that they would let someone near enough to violate them in such way. That they did something to catch the perpetrator's eye, that they didn't fight back, that they allowed it to happen. That they brought their attack on themselves. I'm sure Dex has had bouts of depression. It's like a heavy weight tied onto their back and it can get heavier at random moments of the day. And when the victim starts to have happiness in their life again, they don't trust it because this problem their not facing could come back and take it all away. It an ongoing process for anyone whose suffer at the hands of someone else and didn't get help. Because it just gets worse, it's like an injury that doesn't get treatment. It just hurts worse and gets infected, turning into something very harmful. Which is why I want Dex to face his elephant in the room head on. I want him to do it at a pace that is realistic and he will actually heal from. And maybe after all that he can make peace with Nina and Lucas. Because Dex and Nina were close and cute together, so I want him to at least able to savage that relationship.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 27, 2009 6:57:52 GMT -5
Thanks for giving your input. I totally agree. If Dex doesn't turn out to be gay or bi then I would love it if eventually he and Nina could get back together. Before I knew Lucas was coming back from New York I was already rooting for them to be a couple. I'm really looking forward to today's episode. Emiel is already breaking my heart in what I've seen in the previews/recap. And kudos to the writers, because I think that usually on soaps when a character is homophobic it means that he's gay himself. I applaud them for doing something different and with Emiel they have a capable actor who can do it.
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Post by cheerios on Nov 27, 2009 12:44:05 GMT -5
Yeah I thought Nina and him were cute, in how he was helping her recover. When I heard all the speculation of Lucas coming, I kinda hope Dex wouldn't be paired with Lucas because I thought he would be good with Nina.
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Post by HQ75 on Nov 28, 2009 9:32:38 GMT -5
I have to say, I'd much prefer to see Noud become the love interest for Lucas (at this point) have Dex just start to deal with his trauma with the help of his mom and grandma. I think Nina adores him and he clearly adores Nina and they could be really good together. Nina would forgive him once she knows what happened and they could help each other since it's now clear that they have similar traumatic experience. It also explains why Dex was so understanding and had so much insight when he was talking to Nina about them having sex for the first time. I would just really love Lucas to get to have a boyfriend who doesn't have to have some long, tense coming out process. You can have drama and excitement and intensity and passion between to men without the tortured coming out self-hate "I'm not gay " angle. As a gay person, it just gets tiring to see that every single gay romance has to have tortured coming out. I want the drama and obstacles are bit part of all soap romances but the drama doesn't always have to be about something being "closeted". How amazing would it be to just have Lucas be the one who is wooed, persued by someone who is already confident with his sexuality? I do have the sense from Noud that if he was attracted to Lucas and decided to act on it he'd be very "y'all can kiss my ass if you don't like it" about it He seems like a sensitive (maybe a bit broken) but straight forward and confident guy.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 28, 2009 10:26:13 GMT -5
So gossip magazine Privé is saying that Lucas and Noud will become a couple. It's a gossip magazine so those always need to be taken with a truckload of salt. It's quite possible they drew this conclusion from the same spoilers we've seen. I wasn't even sure if I wanted to share this 'spoiler' since the source is not the most reliable source, but with a warning like this I think it would be okay. What the magazine is saying is that Lucas and Noud will share a kiss right before the celebration of Saint Nicholas (More info on this Dutch holiday here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas). Lucas will fall in love with Noud, but Noud will have some doubts. After all, before this he had only relationships with girls. But eventually he won't be able to resist his feelings for Lucas... Like I said. TRUCKLOAD of salt on this one. I'm still in wait-and-see mode. But I do kind of agree that it would be great if Dex and Nina could work through this crisis and come out of it stronger. At the moment Noud doesn't really have a lot to do on the show, so pairing him up with Lucas would make sense. I love the chemistry between Ferry and Ruud so I wonder what it would be like if they had more intimate scenes. We'll see.
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Post by HQ75 on Nov 28, 2009 11:45:27 GMT -5
Oh Mark I'm covered in salt but kind of excited. I love the chemistry between Noud and Lucas and there has been a slow development of their relationship as friends and their friendship has made so much sense to me. Their personalities complement each other very well and they have a spark. I also really love the chemistry between Dex and Nina and I love the idea of two kind of "broken" people finding each other and helping each other to be stronger. I have always hated this idea perpetuated in the media that being raped or molested HAS to ruin your life forever and make it impossible for you to have a self esteem, a passionate and joyful sex life and strong romantic relationships. Every human being can overcome tragedy with the right support so I'm kind of invested in Nina and Dex right now. I haven't seen the actual spoilers so i'm just going to ride the salty wave till we see what happens. It's all very exciting and the plotting of each of these stories has been so well done. Noud and Lucas we be a very unique couple so I really hope they go for it. SQUEE.
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Post by Hawthorne on Nov 28, 2009 11:47:39 GMT -5
My gut feeling is that the spoilers about Noud and Lucas are correct. There's been foreshadowing about them all along, but the stuff with Dex has distracted from and confused it.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Nov 28, 2009 12:39:33 GMT -5
If Noud and Lucas get together I would love to see Laura's reaction. You know, Lucas' former boss at the hotel? LOL She's Noud's grandmother. BTW, Laura had a lesbian affair herself WAY BACK. I think that storyline even featured the first same-sex kiss on Dutch TV. Because of this, I'm sure Laura would be very supportive of Noud... But will she think the wild Lucas is good enough for her grandson? ;D
Jette van der Meij who plays Laura once said that she would love to play a mother of a gay child. A grandson is close enough especially since Noud's parents aren't around anymore. His mother (Mirella) is dead and his father (Dennis) is living with Noud's grandfather (Robert, Laura's ex-husband) in Tokyo.
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Post by stl29tide on Nov 28, 2009 13:52:36 GMT -5
I'm taking it with the salt, but OH MY GOD!!!! I'm so excited if this is true. I liked the idea of Dexas at first, but as soon as Noud had his first scene with Lucas, I've wanted them to get together. And when Lucas made that comment about falling in love with Noud, I immediately thought forshadowing and that's what I was hoping was going to happen, I just didn't know if it would be possible for Noud to return those feelings. Here's praying he will! If we can get Lucas/Noud and Dex/Nina, I would totally be thrilled. Nina's so good and so sweet that I want her to be happy and a Lucas/Dex pairing would just break her heart. This way both Sanders' get their love and hopefully Dex and Lucas can become friends. I wonder what Dex would say about Lucas/Noud? Oh, who cares. Yay!!!.....Okay, I'm just ignoring the salt now. Lucas/Noud!!!!
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Post by justinate on Nov 28, 2009 15:33:19 GMT -5
Now that they've revealed Dex to have been molested as a kid, I would prefer them to steer clear of a Dexas romantic pairing. The possibilities of Noucas, on the other hand, are delightful.
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