Post by GTSTfanMark on Apr 11, 2009 10:41:43 GMT -5
Finally! GTST is going to have a gay character. Ferry Doedens is going to play Lucas Sanders. I (and others too) have been saying for a long time that Lucas is the perfect character for a storyline like this. It's great that the show is actually listening to us.
The clips that were posted on the blog:
RTL Boulevard talks to executive producer Kennard Bos.
RTL Boulevard talks to Ferry Doedens (the female host in this clip is also a GTST cast member).
Ferry starts filming next month and will probably debut in the last 1 or 2 weeks of season 19.
Post by GTSTfanMark on Apr 15, 2009 6:35:54 GMT -5
There has been some controversy. Some of the male actors already on the cast were not too thrilled about the show adding a gay character, afraid that Lucas would be a love interest for their characters.
Man Bijt Hond, a show that looks at the news in a different way, had a segment on this. A fan of GTST was disappointed in the actors and they went to the studio where GTST is filmed. They talked to Emiel Sandtke (he plays Dex Huygens) who said that he really likes it that there is going to be a gay character on the show. He said it was all a bit blown up by the media. When Emiel said he wasn't bothered by a gay character being on the show the fan asked if he wouldn't be afraid to give him a kiss and this is what happened:
I've always liked Emiel Sandtke but this made me love him even more.
I heard and read about the controversy. I was a bit shocked actually.... I know media like to blow things up, but still: the rumor had to come from somewhere. I'd always thought people over here were a bit more openminded; especially since there are so many openly gay people in dutch showbizz.
Post by GTSTfanMark on Apr 15, 2009 12:16:38 GMT -5
I guess there are closed minded people everywhere. It was probably one actor who talked to the producers and the media made more of it than it was.
I've never stopped watching GTST, lol! Season 16, 17 and 18 weren't that great, but things have really improved in the current season 19. I've always said Lucas would be the perfect character to do this storyline with so it's great it's actually going to happen.
I know you're a real fan. ;D I watched the first seasons, stopped for a few years and came back for another year or two. But right now it has been a while since I watched that closely, but luckily Lucas Sanders is someone coming from a family I do remember. ;D
I'm looking forward to see what they're are going to make of it.
Post by GTSTfanMark on Apr 16, 2009 5:55:42 GMT -5
They often introduce new characters at the end of the season, so this didn't come as a surprise. I wonder if Lucas will be involved in the summer cliffhanger since I think it will be about the Sanders family (they're the A-storyline at the moment).
I mean no offense to anyone with what I'm about to say. We can disagree about an issue amicably, right?
I'm not really comfortable with this new definition of tolerance that means straight guys need to be comfortable making out with a man in order to be tolerant. If a straight actor isn't comfortable making out with a man, I don't have a problem with that. I'm going to tend to be more interested in the careers of people who ARE willing to go there, but I'm not going to actively feel negative about actors who aren't.
I think actors should be able to pursue, or not pursue, any roles they want without having their reasons judged. Someone doesn't want to do horror films? I'm not going to take them to task for not being able to distinguish stage violence from real violence. Patrick Stewart was once going to play Hitler, until he saw himself with the mustache and couldn't bear the sight and backed out. I'm not going to judge him for not being able to differentiate himself from the role he's playing. If an actress doesn't want to do a simulated sex scene, I'm not going to speculate that she may have sexual hangups. And if a straight guy doesn't want to kiss a guy, I'm fine with that. (But I'm also going to be more interested in the guy who DOES play gay love interest.)
I have even more trouble with the idea that straight actors playing gay have to have a certian attitude towards the kiss. If a straight actor is willing to take on a positive gay role, but he thought the kiss felt weird, or was bothered by stubble, or whatever, he should be able to be honest about that without being called a homophobe or having that take away from any positive impact his role had. I have enough of a problem that being a "tolerant" straight guy means being willing to make out with a man, but to go further and say they aren't allowed to think it felt weird or different? I've kissed a couple of women, and you know what? It felt VERY weird to me. If that makes me heterophobic, ah well.
Like I said, no offense meant to people who may feel differently. We can all express our views, even strongly held views, and all be friends afterwards, right? :p
Agreed. We don't know the circumstances. I also don't think that every actor who doesn't like the thought of their character going gay has to be a homophobe. Everybody knows that when a gay comes, it is likely that somebody will suddenly realize that they are gay too. What if an actor feels it doesn't suit the way they have played their character so far or if they are really invested in their het pairing. Not for reasons of "I will get unpopular if I play gay" but for reasons of character authenticity?
Let's say the actress who plays Luise on VL was told tomorrow that they are scrapping the Luise/Gregor story and that instead she will fall in love with Stella. Would it really be that strange for her to be weirded out if up to now she has invested a lot of energy in making the pairing with Gregor seem believable. Like maybe she wouldn't mind playing lesbian in a differnet role or at a different time, but at the moment it doesn't feel right for the character to go there.
(just like there are a lot of pro gay or pro lesbian fans who aren't really happy about Olli's aunt Charlie going gay when it seems very out of the blue)
That said, smallmindedness or homophobia is probably a much more likely reason, but in theory, I do think that somebody can be unhappy about their character being turned gay for legitimate reasons. Another legitimate reason could be if it was too much of a clichee so that not even he gay community would benefit from it (like a serial killer villain or really stereotypical pansy character turning gay; )
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Apr 21, 2009 6:44:31 GMT -5
Davedoty, I actually agree with you. I don't really have a problem if an actor doesn't want to play gay. There are enough actors (even on GTST) who are not against it. The other day I read an interview with Jan Kooijman who plays Danny on GTST. He played a gay character on a different soap and admitted that kissing a guy was a little scary in the beginning. I didn't have a problem with him telling the truth about that.
But I do think going to the executive producer to tell him they don't want it was a little too much. I'm thinking the producer would talk to an actor first to ask him if he's willing to play gay. I really doubt they would force an actor to play a gay role.
Anyway, I think the media has blown this WAY out of proportion so it all probably looks worse than it really is.
I usually don't care too much about backstage drama. I just want to enjoy the show and not worry about other things.
Post by GTSTfanMark on Apr 25, 2009 8:10:51 GMT -5
It doesn't have a lot to do with Lucas, but yesterday was his sister Nina's 21st birthday party. The Dutch entry for the Eurovision Song Contest performed on the show:
Toppers - Shine
The episode ended with an old fashioned friday cliffhanger: a gas explosion. From spoilers we know that Nina will be seriously injured. There aren't a lot of details yet but I think she might end up paralyzed. This could be the reason why Lucas will decide to return to Meerdijk.
Well, for me there only four types of actor who don't want to play gay, a) the ones who think that play gay could harm their career, b) gay actors who fear that play gay could force them out of the closet, c) homophobes and d) actors who are more concerned about being a star than being a real actor.
Come on, kiss another person is quite easy, in every school act you have to do exercises with members of the same and the oppositte sex, and maybe it's a bit weird at the begining but after a couple of kisses it's just work (for an actor it's just daily work). I think that the problem with some of tv actors is that they don't have any experience in theatre (i never heard of a theatre actor who have that issues) and are most concerned to make happy their female fans than to find an interesting role. One thing it's having issues or concerns, Thore Shoelermann says that he was concerned about Christian turned gay, and i even understand that if you build your character thinking that he is straight it's a problem to change all about you build. But having issues about kissing another man it's just ridiculous, most actors find uncomfortable to have sex scenes even when they perform with hot female actress, so don't accept an interesting role only because you'll have to kiss another guy (in tv, sex homo scenes almost doens't exist, and the most it's sharing a couple of kisses) only prove that you are not a real actor