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Post by overtherainbow on Jun 23, 2009 15:28:31 GMT -5
When are they actually going to get to their history and them actually flirting around the first kiss-like August? LOL, no. I think in the beginning of July, from what I heard, but who knows.. With this pace you might be right.. *sigh*
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 23, 2009 17:35:06 GMT -5
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Post by yahoorain on Jun 23, 2009 18:44:15 GMT -5
helloooooooooooo hotness......
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Post by final81 on Jun 23, 2009 19:28:38 GMT -5
Kyle & Fish Part 5
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Post by cheerios on Jun 23, 2009 23:39:10 GMT -5
When are they actually going to get to their history and them actually flirting around the first kiss-like August? LOL, no. I think in the beginning of July, from what I heard, but who knows.. With this pace you might be right.. *sigh* Seriously I was excited to see that these two actors have great romantic chemistry. But then I remember this is an American soap, where it took forever to get anywhere with Luke and Noah. And they are still so far behind soaps from other countries. And I have seen gay sex and romantic behavior tastefully done well where it's not leading to soft porn. And hey congrats to Kyle for such a hunky guy to make Fish jealous. It's kinda weird seeing the actor who plays Kyle on a soap because I remember him from One Tree Hill. And he was such a different character in that part.
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Post by yahoorain on Jun 23, 2009 23:41:09 GMT -5
LOL, no. I think in the beginning of July, from what I heard, but who knows.. With this pace you might be right.. *sigh* Seriously I was excited to see that these two actors have great romantic chemistry. But then I remember this is an American soap, where it took forever to get anywhere with Luke and Noah. And they are still so far behind soaps from other countries. And I have seen gay sex and romantic behavior tastefully done well where it's not leading to soft porn. And hey congrats to Kyle for such a hunky guy to make Fish jealous. It's kinda weird seeing the actor who plays Kyle on a soap because I remember him from One Tree Hill. And he was such a different character in that part. That means he's a good actor who can sell himself to the audience... now lets see how he does with Evans....
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Post by harmonium on Jun 24, 2009 0:22:52 GMT -5
helloooooooooooo hotness...... Nice!! He's cute!! And he's openly gay!! And that's extra nice! Too bad he's on a short term contract. Hopefully he will stick around long enough.
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Post by maya on Jun 24, 2009 0:46:55 GMT -5
thank you so much final81 for the new clip
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Post by jnn111 on Jun 24, 2009 1:23:50 GMT -5
Thank you final81 for that clip. I had to watch the gym scene a couple of time *fans self* They certainly have chemistry.... Rawwwrrrr.. Thank you Bonobochick for the link. Yay.... jealousy. This is really turning out to be an interesting story line. Being an American soap, I hope they don't mess it up like Nuke . I really enjoyed Nuke at first, but then Ameera arrived and I left *keeps fingers crossed and hopeful* ;D
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Post by harmonium on Jun 24, 2009 1:24:09 GMT -5
I have just watched the new clip. And the sarcasm in Kyle's words to Oliver at the gym scene makes me LOL. Things are getting really interesting! And to be honest, I don't think Layla is really seeking love with Oliver. I think she is just keeping her options open. I mean judging by how she flirts with Cristian, I think even if she finds out the truth about Oliver, I think she will make a speedy recovery. But of course, I hope that Oliver comes clean before sinking in too deep. I can't wait for the new guy, Nick to appear. I love storylines that involve with jealousy. They bring out the unexpected of everyone. Hehehhee.
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Post by overtherainbow on Jun 24, 2009 5:06:51 GMT -5
Ugh, I'm not happy with this casting.. I would have preferred one of the other two guys who they considered for the role. This guy is not my type AT ALL. Oh well, I'm glad he's just a short term character, he will serve the purpose of creating tension between Kyle and Fish. And whatever happened to: CJ Roberts? I would have liked it if they were casting him and not some random guy short term character instead!
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Post by davedoty on Jun 24, 2009 5:59:01 GMT -5
ETA: Um, you have to read the casting spoiler to understand why I wrote the following:
Is it just me, or is much more being made of people coming from a theater background to TV or film? In the past, it's always been an interesting but obscure bit of trivia that so-and-so came from a theater background. Now, it's "so-and-so, recently the star of Musical X on Broadway," or "Broadway star so-and-so moves to TV."
I don't think it necessarily happens any MORE than it used to, there's just more of an awareness of that theater past. It used to be that Broadway was not much better than Summer Stock: once you got a "real" role, it all but vanished from your resume.
It also seems to be more acceptable to fall back on theater when you "Q-rating" falls too low to land big TV gigs. In the past, people would be expecting T.R. Knight to go for another big TV role, and not getting one would be seen as a failure that made his leaving Grey's Anatomy a disastrous move. But now, he seems to be leaving with an expectation that he'll be going back to theater, and his fans seem fine with that.
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Post by HQ75 on Jun 24, 2009 10:03:01 GMT -5
Being an American soap, I hope they don't mess it up like Nuke . I really enjoyed Nuke at first, but then Ameera arrived and I left *keeps fingers crossed and hopeful* ;D Not to pick on you Jnn111 because I get that there are folks out there who can't get past their Nuke ire. But could we maybe have some kind of mutual agreement to have this be a Nuke Bashing Free Zone.It's just not a fair comparison to always compare gay soap characters to each other across networks given the vast differences in the network vibes, audiences production teams, writing, etc. Some folks don't even watch ATWT and may never have so they don't have a frame of reference for Nuke related critiques or comparisons. Every soap that has a gay character on it can't nor should it be compared to NUKE any more than we should be comparing every black character or every female character to each other across networks. The characters on ATWT and OTLT themselves are so radically different and at such different stages in their lives and with different backgrounds that comparisons don't really hold up beyond just "they are all gay". This storyline is so new and is unfolding easy breezy and I'd hate to see it get mired in all the anti-Nuke bitterness. Maybe we could just consider it in context and compare it to say, the other romantic story lines or love stories on this show since that's the universe in which it exists.
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Post by valso on Jun 24, 2009 10:12:44 GMT -5
Wow!! Thank you!!! I have to agree with harmonium, I really like storyline that involved jealousy.
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Post by pepe1958 on Jun 24, 2009 10:32:44 GMT -5
Um, ok, look, I don't see why we should censor ourselves if we want to criticize Nuke/ATWT; would you rather we go into the Nuke thread and start flame wars? I know I'd rather not do that. If we occasionally make a comment or wish that OLTL does it better than ATWT has done it, I don't see why that is such a terrible problem.
Also, I happen to be a fan of free-form forums rather than heavily moderated forums; my favorite forum is devoted to movies, a thread could start talking about the latest Sandra Bullock movie and 15 posts later be a fascinating dissertation on the films of F.W. Murnau and the 20 posts after that we'll be talking about French New Wave flicks. That's fun!
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Post by HQ75 on Jun 24, 2009 10:59:03 GMT -5
pepe1958 quote Um, ok, look, I don't see why we should censor ourselves if we want to criticize Nuke/ATWT; would you rather we go into the Nuke thread and start flame wars? I know I'd rather not do that. If we occasionally make a comment or wish that OLTL does it better than ATWT has done it, I don't see why that is such a terrible problem. End Quote
Well since I'm not a moderator, obviously I'm in any position to censor anyone nor would I want to.
I don't think merely asking the question is wrong. It was just a request, not an attack or reprimand.
My experience is that the bitterness, resentment and frustration that folks feel about certain specific story lines just feeds into other story lines to the point where it's impossible to talk about one without having to engage the other.
Obviously that hasn't happened yet here but I don't think I'm the only one on theses boards who has had that experience in other threads or made this type of request.
The story of these two characters as a couple hasn't even begun yet and already the spector of "Ameera" has made it into the mix.
Everyone has free will, they can do what they want. But most threads try to establish a "community ethic" of some sort.
If I've offended folks by even making the request, well, it certainly wasn't my intention.
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 24, 2009 11:24:54 GMT -5
Because it's tiresome to read the comparisons? Off topic? I don't have an issue with people occassionally comparing but it becomes a constant one-up which tends to hijack the discussion of the actual show of the thread in question. I said it a few pages back but I will be glad when people can discuss OLTL on its own merit and not make it a competition with ATWT (or even Y& R) since all 3 shows are TOTALLY different as well as the 3 gay storylines involved. The only thing in common is that the 5 of the men are gay. Outside of that, completely different animals. That said, I voted on the daytime confidential poll that this was the same sex storyline I am most looking forward to for the summer.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 24, 2009 12:31:16 GMT -5
I think more than tiresome it's unfair. If OLTL and Y&R are going the gay route without the pressure that Nuke storyline had to bear, it's because ATWT have the guts (well the kiss ban wasn't exactly the best way to show guts) to tell their one. And it's unfair because we know the Nuke storyline (with all it's flaws) but we don't know how OLTL and Y&R will handle theirs. So comparing a current storyline with ones wich hopefully will be great but could be a total mess is ridiculous.
And as bonobochick said, fortunately, all three storylines seems very different, wich is fantastic for the ones like me who have the intention to follow the three
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Post by sheepiefarm on Jun 24, 2009 12:37:47 GMT -5
Mee too
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Post by davedoty on Jun 24, 2009 12:42:07 GMT -5
So comparing a current storyline with ones wich hopefully will be great but could be a total mess is ridiculous. Wow, in the space of a mere 5 posts, the topic has reached the point that people are referring to their opponent's position as "ridiculous." I pretty obviously give ATWT more latitude than most, but even I would prefer sniping at Nuke to members sniping at each other. I think I'll take a day or two off from this section. Maybe things will be settled down by then.
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Post by nana29 on Jun 24, 2009 12:52:21 GMT -5
so getting back to Fish and Kyle are they on today? might try to catch it live:)
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Post by pepe1958 on Jun 24, 2009 12:56:32 GMT -5
Obviously, I don't want the entire thread to consist of attacks on Nuke/ATWT, but I do think it's appropriate to occasionally point out where OLTL or Y&R are getting it right (or wrong, if that be the case) in comparison to ATWT. See, they're all soap operas, competing with each other for viewer's eyes; and, especially in the case of OLTL and ATWT, they're direct competitors, airing opposite each other.
That said, I will say this: I'm already more invested and impressed by OLTL's gay coupling so far than I have been of any other soap outside of VL. And I hope OLTL continues to impress me as such.
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Post by maya on Jun 24, 2009 13:04:36 GMT -5
Obviously, I don't want the entire thread to consist of attacks on Nuke/ATWT, but I do think it's appropriate to occasionally point out where OLTL or Y&R are getting it right (or wrong, if that be the case) in comparison to ATWT. See, they're all soap operas, competing with each other for viewer's eyes; and, especially in the case of OLTL and ATWT, they're direct competitors, airing opposite each other. That said, I will say this: I'm already more invested and impressed by OLTL's gay coupling so far than I have been of any other soap outside of VL. And I hope OLTL continues to impress me as such. I completely agree with everything you said
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 24, 2009 13:36:45 GMT -5
So comparing a current storyline with ones wich hopefully will be great but could be a total mess is ridiculous. Wow, in the space of a mere 5 posts, the topic has reached the point that people are referring to their opponent's position as "ridiculous." I pretty obviously give ATWT more latitude than most, but even I would prefer sniping at Nuke to members sniping at each other. I think I'll take a day or two off from this section. Maybe things will be settled down by then. English is not my mother language so maybe my sentence is not correct so i try to explain. Right now the OLTL storyline is in the start line, hopefully the story will be great, but we don't even know the route the writers will do. What i find ridiculous its comparing a storyline with one that we don't even know how it's gonna be. Just that. And since the begining of all spoilers about gay storylines in Y&R and OLTL, it's a contant ATWT bashing, and some of us find that unfair, just that
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 24, 2009 14:20:30 GMT -5
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