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Post by lucrece on Mar 2, 2009 19:31:07 GMT -5
The show is pretty darn good. I love Buck and "Persephone". Anyways, I've been plugged to the show, obsessing over Marshall's relationship with Jason. Yes, Jesus freak kinda scares me; but at the same time, there's something thrilling about seeing the dorky little Marshall play the catching game with the big and strong Jason . Oh, and the jabs from everyone on his sexuality-- while accepting it-- are just cute.
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Post by quan87 on Mar 2, 2009 22:26:57 GMT -5
I wish they explore a little into the Jason-Marshall thing because I know Marshall has it bad for Jason but what's with Jason.
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Post by lucrece on Mar 3, 2009 13:58:55 GMT -5
I did kind of swoon alongside Marshall when Jason caressed his bee-stung face, and told him he was so cute.
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Post by overtherainbow on Mar 9, 2009 12:11:59 GMT -5
Did anyone see the last episode? *THIS CONTAINS SPOILERS* Marshall finally got some action! LOL.. I'm happy for him, though I have a feeling Jason don't feel the same way I think Marshall will get his heart broken, and it sucks! Oh well.. Guess it's just a part of growing up. I liked the chat with Max and Marshall. It was cute, and Max didn't freak out, he was just very supportive of him! I think it's great. They need to show this more in other tv shows, that parents are accepting, not all parents react badly to their son/daughter being gay! I really hope Max didn't lie about leaving the whole issue with what happened to Tara. She was right, there's a reason why she forgot the whole thing in the first place! He can search for the truth, but when SHE is ready! Not just to cure his own curiosity. I know he means well, and he only wants to help her, but it has the opposite effect! She has transitioned before because of the stress Max causes! We'll see what happens, can't wait for the next episode though, I'm already hooked! I'm soooo glad this series was renewed for a second seanson. I din't like the first three episodes, but the fourth and the episodes after have been GREAT. I'm a HUGE fan of the show! I simply love it
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Post by lucrece on Mar 9, 2009 13:22:46 GMT -5
I do think Marshall and Jason might get somewhere; I just don't think it will be overt. None of the "let's challenge the church and hold hands in school" thing, though.
And Jason looks hot as a leather daddy!
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Post by overtherainbow on Mar 9, 2009 14:27:18 GMT -5
I do think Marshall and Jason might get somewhere; I just don't think it will be overt. None of the "let's challenge the church and hold hands in school" thing, though. And Jason looks hot as a leather daddy! Yeah, but I read the interview with Keir on afterelton, and it didn't seem like they would end up together. I don't know, maybe I'm just reading too much into what he said. I really hope I'm wrong though. Marshall and Jason would make a cute couple!
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Post by lucrece on Mar 13, 2009 17:54:33 GMT -5
Well, Marshall and Jason had their first kiss! ;D
And Jason returned the affection, that's for sure. Of course, I can see some tension in the upcoming episodes.
HOT!
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Post by overtherainbow on Mar 13, 2009 19:37:41 GMT -5
Well, Marshall and Jason had their first kiss! ;D And Jason returned the affection, that's for sure. Of course, I can see some tension in the upcoming episodes. HOT! I know, believe me, I know, have watched it like 20 times already, LOL Can you tell I liked it? Here it is, for everyone of you who haven't seen it yet:
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 15, 2009 4:19:20 GMT -5
Max hopes that if she confronts what had happened something will change. It's not just him or his curiosity, it's the children, it was incredibly sad when Marshall was shouting at his mother in one of her alters, when she keeps saying he's not her son etc, he's old enough to understand the situation, but it hurts anyway, she should be supportive of him and not the other way around. So it's understandable Max is doing what he thinks can help, it all must test his strength, too.
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Post by overtherainbow on Mar 15, 2009 7:04:55 GMT -5
Max hopes that if she confronts what had happened something will change. It's not just him or his curiosity, it's the children, it was incredibly sad when Marshall was shouting at his mother in one of her alters, when she keeps saying he's not her son etc, he's old enough to understand the situation, but it hurts anyway, she should be supportive of him and not the other way around. So it's understandable Max is doing what he thinks can help, it all must test his strength, too. I know, but the thing is that he doesn't care what happens in the process, even though he means good, even though he does it for his wife and the kids. She doesn't want him to do it, cause it causes more stress for Tara, she has transitioned many times already because of him. She even asked him NOT to do it, but he did it anyway! I really hope he lays off the whole issue now. They should deal with it when Tara herself is ready!
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 15, 2009 7:24:10 GMT -5
He hopes it will help in the long run. Of course it can make her transition, it's about something traumatic, pretty harmless things can do the same, but I think he must be getting desperate. He deserves a credit, somebody else in his place would have run away long time ago.
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Post by lucrece on Mar 15, 2009 16:28:31 GMT -5
Yeah, Max means well. It's just people with disorders usually get defensive over being examined/analyzed.
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Post by lucrece on Mar 16, 2009 15:34:32 GMT -5
Ugh, T seduces Jason and they make out. I'm starting to wonder about Jason's taste.
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Post by overtherainbow on Mar 16, 2009 16:01:27 GMT -5
I'm done with the show!!!
They ruined the character of Marshall, what he did was totally OUT OF CHARACTER!!! And the whole Jason/Marshall storyline went straight to hell.. It was a RETCON, just HORRIBLE writing!
Have a feeling they did this JUST to get higher ratings and it sucks!
Whatever, they lost me as a viewer, no more US of Tara for me.. Good riddance!
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Post by lucrece on Mar 16, 2009 17:47:44 GMT -5
I haven't had the chance to watch the episode, since I don't have Showtime on-demand. I just read the spoilers on the Showtime boards.
I really want to watch the video, as saddened as I am with the episode.
EDIT: Saw it.
I could see Marshall having a meltdown; it was the boy he had it bad for that got kissed by his mom, after all.
What displeased me infinitely is that they went the easy route with the failed gay crush. The whole unrequited love thing seemed very tired for me. Typical.
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Post by tihkon2 on Mar 17, 2009 0:37:43 GMT -5
I thought the episode was good. I liked Marshall and Jason but the show is only 10 episodes in, so I wasn't sending out wedding invitations for them yet. I didn't find it tired that T seduced him. She asked if he liked boys and he said "I don't know." And she asked if he liked girls and he said "I don't know." And she asked if he was bisexual and he said "I don't know. I'm 16!" I thought that was a great line. I don't think it was out of character for Marshall to set the shed on fire. I was surprised, yes. But I could see how crushed and how very angry he was at his mother/T/Jason. Very angry. I think it worked too, because he does not like T at all. He loathes her. She was the alter that caused his angry outburst several episodes back as well. Plus he just found out his mother/ Gimmee has been pissing on his bed as well. So a shed fire seems entirely within reason to me! ;D
I don't know if that was the last of Jason, but if it was, oh well. Moving right along. The writers will surely ahve another realtionship for him.
re: Max. I totally agee with Ivan. He's been an absolute saint dealing with Tara's alters for 17 years. The alters have even "cheated" on him at least twice. We've heard of T having sex with some guy and Buck having sex with some woman at a bar or something. Even though he knows it's the alters, it's stll his wife's body sleeping with other people. I would imagine it to be incredibly hard to deal with. As far as him digging into her past, and causing Tara to alter. Well I have to say her daughter and her sister have made her transition much more it seems. The sister is terribly stupid in the way she deals with Tara and the daughter is as well. But at least the daughter has age as an excuse.
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Post by lucrece on Mar 17, 2009 1:19:02 GMT -5
I can't stand Charmaine either; she's a very poisonous woman.
But I meant tired in the usual "things go awry for the gay crush". Not that T's seduction is tired; it's what she does. No one expected a wedding, surely. It's just that it would have been nice if the relationship had gotten beyond messing around before some boy chose to kiss a 40+ year old woman.
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 17, 2009 18:05:32 GMT -5
I did understand Marshall's reaction. He's supposed to be reasonable about his mother saying he's not her son, pissing on him in bed at nights and seducing his potential b/f. The fact that she's not responsible for her actions does not make it better, just more fucked up. He should be grown up while his mother acts like a child, he's in the age when teenagers rebel against their parents, but he'd give all for a bit of normality. What T did was the last straw and he had to vent his anger somehow. BTW it would seem that most if not all alters have something against him Is it because that he's such an easy target, perhaps?
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Post by lucrece on Mar 17, 2009 19:59:13 GMT -5
Alice likes him. T's just immature and selfish, not because she dislikes Marshall; she also cheated on Max, but she doesn't dislike him. Buck's rude to everyone who's not a woman he can woo.
If I'm upset at someone, it's Jason. The kid just screams opportunist to me. Plays with Marshall's infatuation, leading him on, and then ignores him in school with his posse of jocks. He then wants a piece of 40+-year-old ass.
I liked Marshall and Jason as a couple, but I'll have to see what the writers do, since I'm skeptical about their "relationship" (frankly, I think it was more one-sided on Marshall's part, Jason merely experimenting) being salvageable. How can you continue a relationship with someone whose mom you kissed despite knowing about her disorder?
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Post by dalia on Mar 18, 2009 2:07:10 GMT -5
Although I haven't seen the 10th episode yet, doesn't that seem like that is the end of Jason? I don't really see how he can continue being in Marshall's life after he has done something like that.
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 18, 2009 2:15:03 GMT -5
That moment at school, it did not upset Marshall, he understood Jason did not want anybody to know, later in the shed was different. Although Marshall could blame only his mother for that.
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Post by lyonette on Mar 22, 2009 18:12:32 GMT -5
Hey, I usually just read the message board, but now I feel I simply have to write . I've just watched episode 11. I don't wanna post spoilers so I'm not gonna tell the exact stories, but I'm so annoyed I have to write about it. And of course I'm curious to hear what others think about the story developments. Soo... what Marshall does is really out of line and I'm really worried that only Kate realizes what's going on, and she just gives him a pep talk... And IMHO she's not right, but maybe I'm just seeing too much into the Jason character. And, really? That's how they wanna end the Jason storyline? That would mean that Tara and Katie are right but I just feel like there's more to it than Jason experimenting... I guess we'll see ind the season finale, but right now I don't see how they can make it work... P.s: sorry for the lond post
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Post by lucrece on Mar 22, 2009 18:20:15 GMT -5
Where can I watch the episode? I don't have showtime on-demand ;*(.
I'm so desperate. Everywhere I read, it's Marshall being out of line, but nobody will say what happens *pulls hair*.
EDIT: Saw it.
Good god, has Marshall grown rather dislikable now. I can't even believe he would so easily let Jason off the hook.
And Kate's words to him were so goddamned on spot. That must have hurt for Marshall.
Jason played him, bad.
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Post by carld2 on Mar 23, 2009 8:42:04 GMT -5
It's easy to be psychic after the fact, but when Marshall kissed Jason and Jason casually kissed him back, I did seriously wonder whether this was going to lead to any type of love story. I think they would have put more obstacles and doubt than that. Instead the story became about Marshall's mother.
I don't think what Jason did was out of character, because Jason doesn't even have a serious character makeup as of yet, but even though I know her name is in the title, I was disappointed that Marshall's first romance became all about Tara.
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Post by Bonobochick on Mar 23, 2009 14:09:50 GMT -5
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