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Sept 21, 2009 16:53:59 GMT -5
Post by sweetsheep on Sept 21, 2009 16:53:59 GMT -5
Well it isn't said, that Koen will be interested in a girl.. so let's see... But I don't feel so much sympathy for Koen, I would like to see Flip with a new guy.
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Sept 21, 2009 17:12:07 GMT -5
Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 21, 2009 17:12:07 GMT -5
Tobias/Tessel spoiler (it will probably involve Flip as well): The friendship between Tobias and Tessel will end abruptly in a very sad way. It affects the whole school and nobody will know what to say.
I wonder if this means that Tessel is going to die or something. It has to be something awful like that if the whole show is going to be affected. If this is what will happen, I'm going to feel really sorry for Tobias, but I know we could get some great scenes out of it between the twin brothers. It will also be a little difficult to watch because when I was in high school one of my class mates died as well...
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Sept 21, 2009 20:47:22 GMT -5
Post by kevfish on Sept 21, 2009 20:47:22 GMT -5
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Sept 22, 2009 4:31:41 GMT -5
Post by sweetsheep on Sept 22, 2009 4:31:41 GMT -5
kevfish: Thank you for the information. He looks nice. ;D mark: Now I'm really expectant! (And the last thing you said, makes me sad. I can imagine that this was really hard for you... )
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Sept 22, 2009 12:34:12 GMT -5
Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 22, 2009 12:34:12 GMT -5
Thanks sweetsheep.
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Sept 22, 2009 12:45:29 GMT -5
Post by philippien on Sept 22, 2009 12:45:29 GMT -5
OMG, I love Timo Descamps, he's too cute. I watched him on 'Spring' (jump in English), which is a Belgian kids series about a dance school, he played a gay artist (painting) and he also did a show called steracteur/sterartiest, which had Belgian actors battle each other for a singing career, I think Timo came in third, which was really good.
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Sept 22, 2009 19:41:06 GMT -5
Post by cheerios on Sept 22, 2009 19:41:06 GMT -5
If all of this was about Koen wanting to be with girls you'd think he'd know that. It's not so complicated. And why tell Flip he's still crazy about him? Why not just break up with Flip and let him move on? This whole think with Koen makes no sense and he's not really communicating anything directly to Flip. In his blog he seemed definite that he didn't want to be with flip or Olaf or anyone. Now he want's to date some random girl? I don't have a problem with him wanting to date girls but he was the one who made the first move with Flip telling him he'd falling in love with him and kissing him at the quiz and Flip was so patient with Koen's need for secrecy etc and now all of a sudden Koen not only can't communicate his feelings or be honest with flip but also wants to date his brother's ex girlfriend? Really? This is madness. Where are all the other cute gay boys at Spangas? Someone needs to come in and sweep Flip off his feet. This is just so wrong, wrong, wrong. Yes Mark, I care THAT much. See what you've done to me? I would be really disappointed if Koen was thinking lets see what the girls have to offer. Like you said Koen was the one who started it all with Flip and then Flip was so patient because Koen wanted to wait till he came out. And then Koen got tired of Tobias behavior and came out as a couple. Koen is just acting so immature here, he needs to let Flip go and move on with his life. And not drag him along Koen's exploration of how many different people he can get to fall in love with him. Ok Koen and Flip dating was common knowledge in there school right? And I'm sure they all were talking about what was going on with Koen and Olaf. So wouldn't the girl realize that Koen is suppose to play for the other team and not basically throw herself at him. And didn't Koen know back a ways that it was just boys that tickled his fancy. The poor twins have no luck with relationships, Tobias is completely smitten with Tessel whose in a relationship with someone else. Flip wasn't ready to be with Mick and then the complication with Koen. First he doesn't want to be out and then there is the problem with Tobias. Once that calms down they switch Koen's and now his head is turn by anything that is shiny. Tobias needs to tell Tessel that he has feelings for her and want to be in a relationship with her. Flip needs to find a nice cute gay boy whose in his right mind and knows which team he plays for. And let Koen go off and do his craziness on his own.
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Sept 22, 2009 20:08:25 GMT -5
Post by HQ75 on Sept 22, 2009 20:08:25 GMT -5
It just breaks my heart. Cherrios, I totally agree
Mark, I think what you wrote about Tessel would be hard to watch but important for kids to think about. It must have been very difficult for you. I had that happen in High School, very violent incident. It was very hard to deal. I totally been there. As for Flip, somebody new definitely needs to come along. If not Nelson, someone else. They can't be the only two gays in all of Spangas! I don't have a problem with Koen seeing a girl if he wants. (Though I'm a bit disappointed that they are going down this road but whatever I guess it's realistic for some) I don't like that Koen is so oblivious to how much he's hurting Flip with his indecisiveness and disregard for Flips feelings. Flip is WAITING FOR HIM to make up his mind if he wants to be with him and this is how he makes up his mind? Going out on dates with pretty girls who are all over him?
This girl OBVIOUSLY wants to date Koen. I find it hard to believe that he doesn't know that she's flirting with him or what her intentions are. I know they are only 15 but you know when a girl likes you and little miss thang is hardly being subtle.
If Koen is not interested in her, he should be clear about that with HER.
If he IS interested in her, he should be honest with Flip and NOT say he's "still crazy" about him.
Also, they never touch anymore. It just feels wrong. I don't know if they are supposed to consider themselves boyfriends or not. I'm as confused as Flip.
I don't mean to be so negative. I do like Koen as a character (I don't actually mind the new actor, he's cute and they would be a cute couple if they ever acted like one) and I understand Koen feeling confused.
But the only thing he seems confused about is spending time with Flip.
Koen was happy to spend all of his time with Olaf and now he's making dates with this girl IN FRONT OF FLIP'S FACE and acting like it's not big deal.
Bad form, Dude. Bad form!
GRRR!!!
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Sept 22, 2009 21:19:36 GMT -5
Post by cheerios on Sept 22, 2009 21:19:36 GMT -5
Yeah I think now that Koen is branching out into girls. I think he should end it with Flip for the time being. Koen doesn't get to put Flip through all this pain and still say I'm crazy about you. It's just not right, it's basically ruining all the goodness between them.
Even if lets say that Koen wakes up tomorrow and knows in his heart that Flip is the only one for him. How will Flip be able to trust him after the roller coaster Koen took him through. We never got to see them as a happy couple, the new Koen was introduce and all their problems started. The writers should of let us seen some happy moments with them before having Koen become Hugh Hefner.
And I would think that Koen would have better taste. Both Olaf and this girl don't seem to care that he has a boyfriend as they both throw themselves at his with no dignity. Koen's cute and all; but do they have any respect for other people's feelings. It feels more like they're in lust with him than actually have any real feelings for him. Flip seems to be the only one who actually wants Koen for Koen, not for a roll in the hay.
I'm just having bad DeRo flashbacks of the horrible storyline involving Vanessa and Deniz as a couple. That storyline was just wrong on so many levels and so is this one. Ugh I kinda want to go away and say let me know when it's over. But then I love the characters so much that I still come back.
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Sept 23, 2009 11:30:45 GMT -5
Post by sweetsheep on Sept 23, 2009 11:30:45 GMT -5
I agree with all of you! And.... Nelson and Flip would be a nice couple.
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Sept 23, 2009 11:37:09 GMT -5
Post by cheerios on Sept 23, 2009 11:37:09 GMT -5
Oooo yes lets have Nelson and Flip be a couple. That might shake Koen out of his funk to see Flip moving on with a cute fit guy who is there for Flip.
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Sept 23, 2009 12:48:29 GMT -5
Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 23, 2009 12:48:29 GMT -5
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Sept 23, 2009 13:18:13 GMT -5
Post by HQ75 on Sept 23, 2009 13:18:13 GMT -5
Oh poor Tobias! Ouch! Wow! How can Tessel be so dense? After everything Tobias did to try to impress her does she really not see how crushed out he is on her and if so, why ask him to help her with her boyfriend. That's just so harsh. I wouldn't be a teenager again if you paid me. Seriously. Damn! I'm really proud of Flip for just staying cool and not freaking out and letting Koen spin himself into butter. Flip's little smile is just golden!! Whatever happens, as long as Flip doesn't take it all out on himself, I can be okay. I wouldn't be mad if a cute boy happened to catch his eye either. I just hope Koen comes to his senses soon. People develop their relationships skills with their first couple of boyfriends and I just hope Koen realizes you have to treat people's hearts with care because they are precious.
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Sept 23, 2009 13:40:30 GMT -5
Post by sweetsheep on Sept 23, 2009 13:40:30 GMT -5
Wow, poor Tobias! This is so mean of Tessel. I liked the little scene between Flip and Koen... I don't think Koen will put out his feelers to girls.... anyhow they just want go shopping all day!
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Sept 23, 2009 15:04:08 GMT -5
Post by cheerios on Sept 23, 2009 15:04:08 GMT -5
Oh poor Tobias! Ouch! Wow! How can Tessel be so dense? After everything Tobias did to try to impress her does she really not see how crushed out he is on her and if so, why ask him to help her with her boyfriend. That's just so harsh. I wouldn't be a teenager again if you paid me. Seriously. Damn! I'm really proud of Flip for just staying cool and not freaking out and letting Koen spin himself into butter. Flip's little smile is just golden!! Whatever happens, as long as Flip doesn't take it all on himself, I can be okay. I wouldn't be mad if a cute boy happened to catch his eye either. I just hope Koen comes to his senses soon. People develop their relationships kills with their first couple of boyfriends and I just hope Koen realizes you have to treat people's hearts with care because they are precious. I don't miss being a teenager either, I already feel like an old woman with the teens I work with. I'm proud of Flip for taking the high road and not letting Koen spin him around. Yes I would be really happy if they got back together and were stronger than ever. But I hope that Flip takes care of his heart too and doesn't let Koen confuses him too much. And poor Tobias, he's just gone over Tessel and she has no clue.
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Sept 24, 2009 6:55:25 GMT -5
Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 24, 2009 6:55:25 GMT -5
Spoilers:
Today: Tessel asks Tobias to write a love letter in Greek. Tobias does it. Flip is mad because Koen betrayed him. Tomorrow: Flip breaks up with Koen. Tessel is angry when she finds out what was really in the Greek love letter. Tobias explains why he wrote the anti-love letter.
Go Flip!
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Sept 24, 2009 12:48:58 GMT -5
Post by cheerios on Sept 24, 2009 12:48:58 GMT -5
Spoilers: Today: Tessel asks Tobias to write a love letter in Greek. Tobias does it. Flip is mad because Koen betrayed him.Tomorrow: Flip breaks up with Koen. Tessel is angry when she finds out what was really in the Greek love letter. Tobias explains why he wrote the anti-love letter.Go Flip! Tobias not best choice of actions, and I agree with what you said about Flip, good for him.
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Sept 24, 2009 12:49:25 GMT -5
Post by kevfish on Sept 24, 2009 12:49:25 GMT -5
Thank you for spoilers, Mark.
Flip made the good decision.
I share your opinion, sweetsheep & cherrios, Flip & Nelson could be a very beautiful couple.
I would like that Flip fall in love of Nelson or vice versa. It would be really cool if it would arrive/if it was true.
I read somewhere that Timo Descamps (Nelson) was gay in the real life. Is it an indication about its arrival in the show. I hope.
Sorry for my bad english.
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Sept 24, 2009 13:11:36 GMT -5
Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 24, 2009 13:11:36 GMT -5
Today's episode:
Koen is an ass.
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Sept 24, 2009 13:28:36 GMT -5
Post by HQ75 on Sept 24, 2009 13:28:36 GMT -5
I really hope Flip is serious this time and sticks to his guns about letting Koen go. This sets a bad precedent for his future relationship if he lets Koen walk all over his heart without standing up for himself. I'm glad he finally said ENOUGH! Is there anyway we can find out what he said on his blog? Pretty Please with Cream?? ;D Y'all thought I was being paranoid but I knew it. I KNEW Koen wasn't just wandering blindly into going out on a date with a girl. A gay boy who KNOWS he's gay would make it clear from the get go that he was NOT into girls and he would certainly rather spend time with his adorable boyfriend than go shopping all afternoon with a girl he doesn't even know. Koen was completely on the fence and he should have said as much. That was totally shady. It's time for Flip to cut bait! All that waiting and pining and feeling insecure about himself and and feeling desperate and clingy is not who he is. Let Koen explore his sexuality all over somebody else's heart. He has a right to take time to figure out what he wants but he can't just push the hold button on Flip while he does it. I just hate seeing gay teens have to suffer over love unnecessarily. Thre is always an extra bit that straight teens don't have to deal with and it sucks. It's hard enough just being out and gay and 15 and proud of yourself, you shouldn't have to compete with girls who want your boyfriend and have no qualms about just walking up and snatching him OR boyfriends who don't know what they want and aren't content to be with you. Mark, I need some spoilers or something because my heart just aches for Flip. It's not like there's a million gay boys just running around Spangas waiting to be asked out. Give me hope Mark. As for Tobias, this child just does not learn his lesson. He never learns. It's like he's got a mental block. I'm sure those scammer skills will come in hand in his future vocational endeavors but you cannot scheme your way into someone's heart. Has he learned nothing from the quiz game fiasco? Sigh..
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Sept 24, 2009 13:42:00 GMT -5
Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 24, 2009 13:42:00 GMT -5
It looks like the blog and the video are the same. The first part played during the end credits. This is the second part:
What's even worse is that he dumped me for a girl. That really doesn't feel okay.
Is Koen perhaps not really gay? Was he just pretending? No, that's impossible, right? Or is it possible? What do you think?
And sorry, I don't have more spoilers. There have never been a lot of spoilers for Dutch shows. There aren't a lot of them for GTST either. I think that's a good thing. It forces you to actually watch the show.
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Sept 24, 2009 13:45:22 GMT -5
Post by HQ75 on Sept 24, 2009 13:45:22 GMT -5
I didn't really want spoilers. I just wanted to know that Flip is really going to move on and not try to get Koen back. I really like Koen but I think there needs to be a definitive end to Koen and Flip. I know you can't predict the future. Or maybe you can, you are kind of magical that way ;D Thanks so much for the blog translation. I'm always curious but I don't want to ask too much of you. It really is a lovely little show. It deals with issues so realistically (even if it's frustrating as an adult to look back on it, I remember how awful it was, GUH!) We have all been there I think. The boyfriend or girlfriend who's on the fence. Enough to make you wander into a lake with rocks in your pockets (well you know, not really but YOU WANT TO!) Now I have to go catch up with Lucas, Dex and Nina. You're a peach Mark. Seriously. :*
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Sept 24, 2009 14:11:43 GMT -5
Post by sweetsheep on Sept 24, 2009 14:11:43 GMT -5
Oh no - poor Flip! He's so a cute boy and I just HATE to see him suffer.... even it looked cute, when he let his head falling down on the ball. I just hope, he will break up with Koen at all.... Nelson, where are you - save our honey Flip!
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Sept 24, 2009 14:25:40 GMT -5
Post by cheerios on Sept 24, 2009 14:25:40 GMT -5
Ugh bad Koen, very bad Koen. How dare you hurt Flip like this, sure Koen has every right to figure him self out, but he has no right to play ping-pong with Flip's heart like this. He's the one who started the relationship by telling Flip he was in love. He came out with their relationship when Flip agree to wait till Koen was ready.
And seriously how could that girl not know that Flip and Koen were dating. They have kissed in public and held hands. And if she did know and still pursued him, than Flip is right she is a bitch.
Flip needs to cut Koen loose, so Koen can go off and be crazy on his own. Hopefully this new boy Nelson will be third times the charm for Flip. That they will start off as friends who get along really well. And lets say they never talk about sexuality, since Flip is still hurting from what happen with Koen and doesn't want to go into it. And one day Nelson kisses Flip or asks him out on a date. And then things are good for them.
Tobias, I know you really like Tessel and all, but the way to a girl's heart is not to undermine her current relationship with her long distance boyfriend when she trusts you. The truth is a better policy, tell her you like her for starters.
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Sept 25, 2009 12:27:36 GMT -5
Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 25, 2009 12:27:36 GMT -5
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