General Discussion - General Hospital: Night Shift

[astuta]

The Kyle and Eric Story

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-Bchick

[amber80]

Chad Allen is wonderful.

I had never seen GH before, but this is not too bad...

[sheepiefarm]

yay - a new story to follow

Thanks
xx

[louisa]

Watched this today.
Was a very endearing start so I am looking forward to seeing more.

[sheepiefarm]

Soapy it may have been but the scene where Eric is pushing Kyle to talk about himself actually got to me.
Some of the things Kyle said kinda hit home with me

Chad Allen is lovely - wanna see him outta that bed!

[dkp]

I love Night Shift. This season has been great,I just love Kyle and Eric. Night Shift is much better written than the mothership, General Hospital.

[amber80]

Oct 5, 2008 18:33:07 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

Soapy it may have been but the scene where Eric is pushing Kyle to talk about himself actually got to me.
Some of the things Kyle said kinda hit home with me

Chad Allen is lovely - wanna see him outta that bed!

*gives hug*

I agree with you; it was soapy but still good.

And I want him out of that bed too!

It's about time I watched the Donald Strachey movies again.

[summerinthecity]

This was really entertaining.
What I didn't quite get, though: why was blond guy Kyle so VERY angry that he punched his brother (Leo?) on the nose in the middle of a restaurant and couldn't forgive the pretty blonde they had dinner with??? Really confused me - at first I thought I got it all wrong and he wasn't gay after all ...
I mean, from what I could understand the two brothers are generally angry at each other - quasi all the time (presumably from childhood on). Kyle thinks Leo is a womanizer who treats the ladys badly and dumps them pretty soon after the sex.
Right now Leo is dating the dark-haired doctor (so he obviously already dumped Claire) and Kyle would have never thought his best friend Claire would fall for his brother's tricks.
So I do understand that it all is pretty annoying to him but from the way he acted you could have thought Claire was his wife or girlfriend who had just cheated on him. Which is obviously not the case.
Well, from what I could gather, cute guy in hospital bed (here's hoping there will be a liver donation!) didn't quite understand it either.
I think I have to rewatch it. To improve my listening skills, badly needed (and to have another look at guy in hospital bed ).

[floatilla]

Oct 6, 2008 14:54:27 GMT -5 summerinthecity said:

This was really entertaining.
What I didn't quite get, though: why was blond guy Kyle so VERY angry that he punched his brother (Leo?) on the nose in the middle of a restaurant and couldn't forgive the pretty blonde they had dinner with??? Really confused me - at first I thought I got it all wrong and he wasn't gay after all ...
I mean, from what I could understand the two brothers are generally angry at each other - quasi all the time (presumably from childhood on). Kyle thinks Leo is a womanizer who treats the ladys badly and dumps them pretty soon after the sex.
Right now Leo is dating the dark-haired doctor (so he obviously already dumped Claire) and Kyle would have never thought his best friend Claire would fall for his brother's tricks.
So I do understand that it all is pretty annoying to him but from the way he acted you could have thought Claire was his wife or girlfriend who had just cheated on him. Which is obviously not the case.
Well, from what I could gather, cute guy in hospital bed (here's hoping there will be a liver donation!) didn't quite understand it either.
I think I have to rewatch it. To improve my listening skills, badly needed (and to have another look at guy in hospital bed ).

Kyle is mad at Leo (and Claire) because he (Leo) slept with Claire while he was seemingly in a serious relationship with Dr Bhatra (sp?). I think his heart is in the right place but he is overreacting a tad.... then again maybe he is there to be the moral compass of the family or something...i dunno... am grasping here....

[darcolover55]

Okay, I'll take a shot at the WHY IS KYLE SO ANGRY question.

KYLE is definitely overreacting (as Erik pointed out) but I can see where Kyle is coming from (i'm a younger sibling who's a lesbian and some of what he's going through definitely rings true for me).

Claire is Kyle's very best friend and his only friend in town. Claire is the person to whom Kyle complains about Leo's bad attitude and behavior all the time and to whom he had confided in about his insecurities where Leo is concerned.

Kyle is mad at Claire for sleeping with Leo because:

1) Leo has a girlfriend (Dr. Batra) whom Claire and Kyle both really like and respect
2) Claire sleeping with Leo is kind of like "sleeping with the enemy" and it makes Kyle feel like his trust was betrayed.
3) Once again, Kyle thinks Leo is going to get to do whatever he wants and not pay the consequences. (Kyle and Leo's mother was so attentive and sweet to Leo when she found out he was dating Dr. Batra so it made Kyle angry to think that Leo was dating Dr. Batra and sleeping with Claire at the same time but still getting so much support from their mother)

Kyle and Leo have never really gotten along and are very competative.

Leo feels insecure because he's adopted and thinks Kyle is the favorite because Kyle is not adopted. It's like he feels that his parents don't love him the same as Kyle. Leo also wishes he had more a connection with the culture of his biological parents.

Kyle feels insecure because Leo is the older brother and Leo is very successful at everything but has a bad attitude and treats folks horribly but gets away with it because he's confident and charming.

Klye also has a lot of insecurities about being gay because his parents don't accept that part of him. They ignore that he's gay and they don't ask about his lovelife, etc. It makes Kyle feel like no matter how much he does (winning trophies, etc) his mother will never be as proud of him as she is of Leo because he's gay.

It's a typical older brother/younger brother sibling rivalry made more complicated by Leo being adopted and Kyle being gay.

It's like they both think they aren't good enough for different reasons but they are both totally wrong.

But I think Eric is totally right in telling Kyle that he needs to focus on himself and not let what Leo does or what his mother thinks of him rule his life. Kyle is so worried about doing the wrong thing or making a mistake that he'd not fully living his life and he's denying himself the opportunity to fall in love, etc.

Phew. That was a lot of words. That's my two cents.

[summerinthecity]

Thank you, Floatilla, I think so too, that he is always trying to do the right thing, actually I think he is trying to fix everybody else's life for them and it's just dawning on him that this is impossible really and he is just so tired of it all. Like being such a good friend to Claire and when she is absolutely miserable she won't turn to him but has sex with his brother instead.
Seems to be some compensation for letting his family down being gay ( just so that there are no misinterpretations: this is NOT what I think - this is my interpretation of what the character thinks of himself - or rather feels as he "knows in his head" he is not inferior to anybody else or less worthy of love just because he's gay).
Now (after rewatching parts 3, 4 and 5 a couple of times ) there are still some lines I simply don't get (like on part 5 when he is trying to be funny and tells cute guy in hospital bed (who is not only good-looking but also a terrific listener, very observant, has lovely sense of humour, did I mention I find him hot cute ) what is on his to-do-list before he can start looking after himself a bit instead of looking after everybody else.
It's part 5 around 2:13 and a bit later around 2:45. I'd be really grateful if somebody could fill me in on that.
P.S. And yes, I think he is overreacting just a little bit as well

And totally off-topic: the fact that the words "angst" " angsty" "angsting" etc. seem to be used quite frequently just weirds me out.
I mean to hear the word- Angst - of all German words - in an American? soap - what does that tell about Germany or about what people think of Germans - is it really so typically German to "angst"?
No, maybe I don't want to know after all .
I'm really "ängstlich" now ;D
This is probably not the right thread to post anything like that- but I didn't know where else to put it ...
And to my defense: the word did turn up when Kyle talked about his brother behaving as if he was James Mc Dean

[summerinthecity]

Thank you very much, darcolover, as well, for your thoughts and for enlightening me on this point.
Maybe it needed just a little spark to let explode everything that was bottled up in Kyle for such a long time.
After all, it is very disappointing when you feel that you made every possible effort to help a friend (like discussing night over night about theirs' and your lovelife) and next time they are devastated they turn to your totally irresponsible brother). It feels like all your efforts and worries just don't make any change and this is totally depressing - maybe one could call it "emotional" betrayal.
I still think Kyle is overreacting though, because of his somewhat low self-esteem - if he was more concentrating on himself for a change, as you said, instead of trying to save everybody else, that would probably be better (for everybody involved ...).

[darcolover55]

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Kyle and Erick Part 6



Kyle and Erick Part 7

[maya]

the last scene was beautiful and the kiss really really nice!

thank you

[amber80]

At least they're moving a lot faster than Nuke on ATWT... ;D

Really liking it....

[hari3669]

Oct 8, 2008 9:43:04 GMT -5 amber80 said:

At least they're moving a lot faster than Nuke on ATWT... ;D

It's probably due to the fact that it's not a daytime show ?

[amber80]

Oct 8, 2008 13:15:24 GMT -5 hari3669 said:

Oct 8, 2008 9:43:04 GMT -5 amber80 said:

At least they're moving a lot faster than Nuke on ATWT... ;D

It's probably due to the fact that it's not a daytime show ?

You're right, forgot about that little detail...

[GayTime]

:-) And the fact that one of them is potentially dying should count, too.

Seriously, I'm beginning to warm up to that pairing and Chad Allen is wonderful (Adam Grimes ain't all that bad, either).

I wanna see more of this, as long as Chad keeps his schedule open enough for the occasional Strachney mystery ;-)!

[amber80]

Oh yes, as long as Chad keeps playing Donald...

[sheepiefarm]

Falling in love with a dying man....
.....now that is the ultimate in gay angst

I've seen a few posts on Yt saying that Chad allen is only in this for a few episodes - anyone confirm this?

[louisa]

As far as I can tell from IMDB, Chad Allen is listed up until the end of Season 2, the same as Adam Grimes (Kyle) is.
What that means from then on, I don't know.

[sheepiefarm]

Oct 8, 2008 17:47:51 GMT -5 louisa said:

As far as I can tell from IMDB, Chad Allen is listed up until the end of Season 2, the same as Adam Grimes (Kyle) is.
What that means from then on, I don't know.

And is this season one or two?

[louisa]

This is season two.

[sheepiefarm]

Oct 8, 2008 17:59:04 GMT -5 louisa said:

This is season two.

[amber80]

Oct 8, 2008 17:38:47 GMT -5 sheepiefarm said:

Falling in love with a dying man....
.....now that is the ultimate in gay angst

At least he's not dying from AIDS or in the hospital because of some overdose on drugs.

Watching too many gay themed movies can make you cynical sometimes.