aldebaran
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Post by aldebaran on Apr 23, 2008 11:09:00 GMT -5
Well, the spoilers seem to be fairly good for the next future. At least we know that Olli & Chris will be still together in 2 months. Not bad. And Gregor learning about his brother's sexuality and being cool with it is relieving. Not only, he'll become his trainer too! Amazing! Thanks writers!!! Please don't let us down!!! ;D Ciao valso, fa piacere sapere che si sta formando un piccolo gruppo di italiani appassionati di VL. Programmi del genere ce li possiamo scordare nella nostra TV.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 23, 2008 11:10:29 GMT -5
I can't wait to see the scene with Gregor & Christian after Christian reveals he is in love with Olli. AJ and TS play brothers so convincingly. I am sure the scene will be really well done.
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 23, 2008 11:14:00 GMT -5
I just hope that the whole boxing storyline won't stretch believability too much Then again, it's a soap. I just hope that they tie the whole thing more into other storylines too. I'm just so happy that Gregor is getting some airtime again too. Way too gorgeous to just be window dressing. Hope him helping Christian out will mean for some quality brother interaction too.
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Post by g73t on Apr 23, 2008 11:18:15 GMT -5
Yeah... these spoilers sound pretty good, just wondering whether Gregor will find out about Christian and Oliver thru Christian's "snap out" or there will be some private conversation I'm so glad that Oliver and Christian will be still together at least middle june ;D
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Post by feline on Apr 23, 2008 11:40:08 GMT -5
Spoilers sound great - looking forward to the Christian & Gregor conversation :-)
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 30, 2008 7:41:56 GMT -5
I have to admit, I'm kinda sad that it seems that all the important people find out by accident rather than my Christian and Olli sitting them down and having a conversation. But on the plus side... more interrupted sex!
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Post by susurrus on Apr 30, 2008 7:51:22 GMT -5
I have to admit, I'm kinda sad that it seems that all the important people find out by accident rather than my Christian and Olli sitting them down and having a conversation. But on the plus side... more interrupted sex! I think that was fairly obvious... it is a soap after all. It would be boring if there wasn't some more drama involved in his coming-out. But I'm really looking forward to Olli "washing Gregor's head" afterwards. LOL
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 30, 2008 7:53:07 GMT -5
I dunno. I think a real, honest coversation could be good drama as well. But yeah, probably not "meaty" enough for a soap. I'm guessing they'll get some flack for the "washing his head" because they are again assuming the worst of Gregor, but whatev. Most important thing is that it's out at last And I'm always for Olli and Gregor interaction. I'm really curious how all of that will play into Sarah breaking down in Gregor's arms and Gregor realizing just how bad things really are with her drug addiction.
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Post by aldebaran on Apr 30, 2008 8:09:51 GMT -5
I have to admit, I'm kinda sad that it seems that all the important people find out by accident rather than my Christian and Olli sitting them down and having a conversation. I agree, actually from the previous spoiler it looked like Chris would have told Gregor the truth, and not that his brother would have caught him with Olli! Gregor obviously will be rather disappointed, because he'll think that his brother doesn't trust him. But this is how soaps work...
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Post by dkp on Apr 30, 2008 8:18:37 GMT -5
Well Gregor catching Christian and Ollie "in the act" certainly isn't ideal, but what ever is on soaps? I'm actually looking forward to all this. Should be some great drama.
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Post by xxsexyfeehilyxx on Apr 30, 2008 11:58:21 GMT -5
nah itheir relationship being secrets its a turn on so i prefer it like that
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 30, 2008 12:20:12 GMT -5
I am looking forward to seeing how Olli handles Gregror's poor reaction to his and Christian's relationship. I am not surprised that Gregor finds out by walking in on Chris & Olli, not just because it's a soap but it's also not like Chris & Olli are all that discreet.
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Post by g73t on Apr 30, 2008 12:27:16 GMT -5
Well .......I would prefer .... Gregor finding out about them through conversation
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Post by nana29 on Apr 30, 2008 12:36:22 GMT -5
I am looking forward to seeing how Olli handles Gregror's poor reaction to his and Christian's relationship. I am not surprised that Gregor finds out by walking in on Chris & Olli, not just because it's a soap but it's also not like Chris & Olli are all that discreet. so true with those blown-kisses Olli sends Christian I am not that suprised though there was some foreshawdowing when Christian told Olli he didn't want his brother catching them in act so yea of course that's how Gregor finds out! lol its a soap you got to love them im just happy that this happens in June which means we get happy Olli and Christian for another month!! and hopefully more after that ;D thank you for the spoilers lolaruns
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Post by psionycx on Apr 30, 2008 13:11:58 GMT -5
I am looking forward to seeing how Olli handles Gregror's poor reaction to his and Christian's relationship. I am not surprised that Gregor finds out by walking in on Chris & Olli, not just because it's a soap but it's also not like Chris & Olli are all that discreet. In fairness, Christian did try to come out to Gregor verbally, but Gregor was in some kind of weird hyperactive mood and wasn't believing a word of it. So at this point Christian needs to provide physical proof of his relationship with Olli anyway. It's not as if Gregor is actually listening to anything Christian says these days. Gregor doesn't strike me as homophobic. After all, he was the one who talked Christian down from his initial homophobic reaction to Olli. But I would expect that given all of the upheaval in Gregor's life right now he might react badly at first just because it would be one more shocking change in what has already been a rough period. Remember how put out he's been that Christian doesn't want to be his wingman on the quest for women? This should be interesting.
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 30, 2008 13:33:09 GMT -5
True. Christian can forever hold it over Gregor's head that he did try to tell him ;D
I'm very curious to see how Christian and Olli handle their disagreements, whether it's similar to how Christian and Coco used to argue or very different.
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Post by psionycx on Apr 30, 2008 13:38:47 GMT -5
I'm very curious to see how Christian and Olli handle their disagreements, whether it's similar to how Christian and Coco used to argue or very different. I'm not sure if Olli will ever really be able to duplicate that pouty expression that Coco always had when she was unhappy. But we've already seen Christian and Olli argue. Olli gets an annoyingly patient look on his face while Christian seethes. Then Christian generally cools down and looks sheepish, and Olli smiles and they settle down. Now, if that will hold up as a pattern going forward remains to be seen.
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 30, 2008 13:43:10 GMT -5
I kinda hope so. That they have their own way of of dealing with things that is unique to them. And that them being good at resolving things isn't just a property of being freshly in love.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 30, 2008 13:47:58 GMT -5
I'm very curious to see how Christian and Olli handle their disagreements, whether it's similar to how Christian and Coco used to argue or very different. I'm not sure if Olli will ever really be able to duplicate that pouty expression that Coco always had when she was unhappy. But we've already seen Christian and Olli argue. Olli gets an annoyingly patient look on his face while Christian seethes. Then Christian generally cools down and looks sheepish, and Olli smiles and they settle down.Now, if that will hold up as a pattern going forward remains to be seen. Pretty much. Olli lays out his points while Christian still tries to fight it out and eventually Christian calms down enough to think about the situation clearly. Olli definitely knows how to get through to Christian, even if it's not an instant thing, it's an eventual thing at the very least..
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Post by psionycx on Apr 30, 2008 14:08:10 GMT -5
Pretty much. Olli lays out his points while Christian still tries to fight it out and eventually Christian calms down enough to think about the situation clearly. Olli definitely knows how to get through to Christian, even if it's not an instant thing, it's an eventual thing at the very least.. Olli is related to Olivia, so he understands dramatic personalities. Christian tends to get all worked up very easily and then feel embarrassed about it afterwards. A big part of their onscreen chemistry is the way that Olli seems to know how to manage Christian's emotions. Probably the most beautiful example was when Gregor had nearly discovered them at the gym. When they got home and Christian was seething Olli just pulled him down onto the couch and soothingly talked to his fears. Then he laid himself across Christian's lap and made a joke about never having sex anywhere but in Christian's bed. That broke right through Christian's anger like sun through the clouds. Hopefully they can continue this. Olli seems to have good Christian management skills.
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Post by brittanyerinxx on Apr 30, 2008 22:07:12 GMT -5
So I was looking at the picture with Christian Olivia and Oliver all in the bed and it made me wonder, do Christian and Olli share a bed now or what? or does he just stayed there some nights, I know you guys can't answer cause we havne't learnt that but what do you guys think?
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Post by psionycx on Apr 30, 2008 22:42:19 GMT -5
So I was looking at the picture with Christian Olivia and Oliver all in the bed and it made me wonder, do Christian and Olli share a bed now or what? or does he just stayed there some nights, I know you guys can't answer cause we havne't learnt that but what do you guys think? I'm guessing that they're probably sleeping together (in the literal sense) these days. Olli's comlaint to Christian about not waking him up kind of implies that since, I assume, he didn't rely on Christian to wake him up before they became a couple. Since they already live in the same flat, it isn't exactly a transition on par with "moving in" together. They already shared 3/4 of their living space. If anything it would be a little odd if they were sleeping separately. After all, it's not like they can argue "Well, I'd best get home, got to be up early tomorrow."
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Post by RJ on Apr 30, 2008 23:18:19 GMT -5
So I was looking at the picture with Christian Olivia and Oliver all in the bed and it made me wonder, do Christian and Olli share a bed now or what? or does he just stayed there some nights, I know you guys can't answer cause we havne't learnt that but what do you guys think? I'm guessing that they're probably sleeping together (in the literal sense) these days. Olli's comlaint to Christian about not waking him up kind of implies that since, I assume, he didn't rely on Christian to wake him up before they became a couple. Since they already live in the same flat, it isn't exactly a transition on par with "moving in" together. They already shared 3/4 of their living space. If anything it would be a little odd if they were sleeping separately. After all, it's not like they can argue "Well, I'd best get home, got to be up early tomorrow." So THIS is where you've been hanging out lately! I'm also guessing Olli's line to Christian about waking him up implies they're sharing the same bed. I have to say I really love how even seemingly throw-away lines in episodes not focusing on Ollian still have meaning. The VL writers are clearly placing value in every line of dialogue they write. And while I'd love to have more Ollian romance, I'm really enjoying seeing them interact with other VL characters and seeing them have discussions that aren't about their relationship.
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Post by psionycx on May 1, 2008 0:18:21 GMT -5
So THIS is where you've been hanging out lately! I'm also guessing Olli's line to Christian about waking him up implies they're sharing the same bed. I have to say I really love how even seemingly throw-away lines in episodes not focusing on Ollian still have meaning. The VL writers are clearly placing value in every line of dialogue they write. And while I'd love to have more Ollian romance, I'm really enjoying seeing them interact with other VL characters and seeing them have discussions that aren't about their relationship. What can I say? I wander. I have to say that they do seem to do a good job grouping different storylines together by character and then making the relevant characters interact with each other. They also do a good job with loaded dialogue. Not every statement needs to have dramatic weight, but they do try to make them relevant in subtle ways. Also, we already know that Olli and Christian are lovers, so not everything they do needs to be about their relationship. People in real relationships have mundane concerns like getting to work on time or going to practice boxing if one is looking for a career in it. That's another thing (out of so many) that's been bugging me about Nuke over on ATWT. Somehow suddenly they became enclosed in a bubble of Luke/Noah/Ameera. Noah's film geek persona has largely vanished except within the context of making a film about Ameera as a cover for Luke hanging around. They only seem to deal with other characters within the context of their relationship issues. They've become cardboard cuttouts. Christian and Olli, however, are not only in their own storyline, but also logically connected into those of the people they interact with regularly like Gregor, Judith and Olivia. So not everything they do is about being gay, Gay, GAY. In the end it makes them more relevant characters and also less repetitive, again unlike Nuke who've been trapped in a time loop for months now. The next couple of months should be good at least. I'm hoping that they'll be together a good long time, because the writers seem to be able to use their characters as a couple without needing to make their being a couple the sole point of their characters.
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Post by lolaruns on May 1, 2008 1:00:46 GMT -5
I thought Oliver/Christian/Coco was quited "bubbled" themselves (which is why the edits work so well), though it's true people were still dropping in and out on them in the background. It's totally amusing how you miss a lot though. Most essentially the episode *before* Olli and Coco kiss. Olli and Coco are partying, their scenes are intercut with Gregor and Christian. Gregor and Christian get a truckload of scenes showing off their differences. Christian is mad because Coco won't call and worries that she might do something stupid. Gregor is relaxed and points out that Sarah didn't come home either and he isn't worrying. Only if you see the whole episode it actually turns out that *that* was the episode where Sarah slept with Leonhard. So Christian's gf who he was angry with didn't do anything and Gregor's wife who he trusted cheated on him. And all those people moving in or out of the flat also have a backstory to why. LOL. Like Lars and his gf breaking up because she can't get over her lesbian ex-wife Carla. Or Christian and Olli fighting over Olivia which is prompted by Olivia's storyline with Ansgar and Adrian blowing up. I am disappointed though that the storyline around Sarah losing her baby and Sarah/Gregor ending their marriage didn't impact Christian for such a long time. So I'm kinda glad that he might be a bit more involved in Gregor's life from now on. BTW, since we are talking location this vid has a montage of Coco cleaning Christians room around 4:38. It gives a really good wide shot of the place.
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