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Post by mrfixit477 on Dec 26, 2021 3:25:14 GMT -5
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Haru
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Post by Haru on Feb 8, 2022 12:44:04 GMT -5
Love Victor - To End After Season 3
S3 June 15
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Post by TheGuyFromBrazil on Feb 8, 2022 13:01:55 GMT -5
Excited that we have a date set for the new season.
Also, I had a feeling this would be a 3 season show... I just couldn't see it going beyond Creekwood High since they are probably graduating this season. Three solid seasons seems like a great run for this.
Can't wait for June
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Post by scmian on Feb 8, 2022 13:25:38 GMT -5
Not a huge surprise. One of the makeup artist leaked it was the final season a week ago. I'm just annoyed that they cut it from 10 episodes to just 8 episodes for this final season.
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 8, 2022 14:17:27 GMT -5
I must be the only one but i liked the first season way more than the second
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Post by justinate on Feb 14, 2022 8:16:43 GMT -5
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Post by scmian on Feb 22, 2022 12:15:07 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Feb 23, 2022 8:23:42 GMT -5
Something must've happened behind the scenes for them to abruptly cancel like that. I hope it doesn't have to do with poor ratings (but they should've known that well in advance of filming), or Disney getting pushback about gay content on their platform, or some scandal involving the showrunners/actors.
I'm glad they were able to rewrite and film a proper ending to the series, but it's still incredibly sad. I felt the show had another couple of seasons left in it until they graduated high school.
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Post by angel on Feb 24, 2022 3:52:05 GMT -5
I think, too, that something behind must going on. That is, was really a sudden decision. Such a shame. But otherwise the season was planned to be shorted at the beginning from 10 to only 8 Episodes. So maybe Disney, like the CW, had a new boss, or partner in crime, that do not like Gay content, than it goes off, or more shorted. I think Disney in general was not really a good background, for the show. A lot of thinkers by the man in charge like: oh my God, we should protect our kids for this content, maybe they become gay when they see the show, and other hilarious stuff, it could be funny, when it is not on the other side pure reality.
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 27, 2022 13:18:47 GMT -5
It's a little sad than in three season they weren't able to have an openly gay actor as regular. It's going to look particularly bad when it'll be compared with Heartstopper
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Post by carld2 on Apr 9, 2022 2:31:23 GMT -5
Something must've happened behind the scenes for them to abruptly cancel like that. I hope it doesn't have to do with poor ratings (but they should've known that well in advance of filming), or Disney getting pushback about gay content on their platform, or some scandal involving the showrunners/actors. I'm glad they were able to rewrite and film a proper ending to the series, but it's still incredibly sad. I felt the show had another couple of seasons left in it until they graduated high school. Since this has been written, the head of Disney was involved in all that mess about not wanting to wade into the Don't Say Gay bill in Florida, so I do wonder...
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Post by justinate on Apr 9, 2022 22:06:02 GMT -5
Since this has been written, the head of Disney was involved in all that mess about not wanting to wade into the Don't Say Gay bill in Florida, so I do wonder... Oh, I definitely side-eye Disney's commitment to gay representation on its shows. Staff at their Pixar subsidiary revealed how orders came from above to minimize or cut the LGBTQ+ representation in every single film they'd developed at Disney. And then of course there's Disney's own track record, where Andi Mack's gay couple was never allowed to kiss, Diary of a Future President's gay couple shared a kiss that was filmed to obstruct the actual lip-lock, a sitcom called Four Dads revolving around gay dads never made it past the pilot stage, and then the entire sorry saga of how Love, Victor was shunted to Hulu because even its ridiculously tame first season (already excised of some moderately racier content at Disney's behest) was deemed too "mature" for Disney+. (But it's never stopped them from churning out rainbow merchandise during every Pride Month like clockwork.) There definitely was something that prompted the sudden cancellation and shortening of the commissioned season. I cannot imagine it was poor ratings (already known at the time of renewal) or the extra cost of filming during a pandemic (already encountered during filming of the second season). So yeah, it's either Disney leadership's malign influence or something went down with the showrunners/cast.
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Post by kellerbrady on Apr 26, 2022 19:30:16 GMT -5
So after ditching the series to Hulu because it wasn't "family friendly", and cancelling after a third season, they are finally going to air on Disney+
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Post by mrfixit477 on Apr 27, 2022 11:12:35 GMT -5
All 3 seasons will out on Disney Plus June 15
Victor S 3 on HULU June 15
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Post by mrfixit477 on Apr 27, 2022 12:41:16 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Apr 27, 2022 12:41:50 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on May 15, 2022 19:11:50 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on May 20, 2022 11:01:44 GMT -5
Trailer now out. I'm disappointed that, even in this final season, so much time is given over to the straights (and now the lesbians too). They're going hastily wrap things up in just one or two episodes, aren't they?
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Post by TheGuyFromBrazil on May 20, 2022 11:44:34 GMT -5
Excited for season 3 but I'm quite sad is ending...
Love the new poster!
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Post by daleeryohm on May 20, 2022 14:33:38 GMT -5
Trailer now out. I'm disappointed that, even in this final season, so much time is given over to the straights (and now the lesbians too). They're going hastily wrap things up in just one or two episodes, aren't they? Yeah, they're gonna have to. The cancelation was a blindside, so how well things get wrapped up will likely depend on how naturally their original finale script and wherever they already were with filming all the season's character and relationships arcs and can be veered to act as endings, with these ensemble cast story time constraints, lol. But the straights and lesbians have to feel included, right? On the young gay male centered show? Lol. Ofc they do. And it still got cancelled. But this show has already lost me with this trailer and synopsis. I was already struggling to even find Victor a likable character, and now seeing him get yet ANOTHER romantic interest, and another white man at that, wasn't a choice I was ever going to feel was rewarding of what was a large part of the heart of this show and why anyone was invested. So is Benji going to be getting his back blown out wherever he has to go "alone", which is very likely rehab, while Victor is clearly kissing and doing whatever else with the lipless Tad in the car? Probably not. All this trailer did was make me want Love, Benji the spinoff. I'm over Victor and his "problems." I'd rather see Benji get to the root of his alcoholism and climb some man mountains, lol. #TwinkBottomSolidarity
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Post by justinate on May 21, 2022 15:18:56 GMT -5
Yeah, they're gonna have to. The cancelation was a blindside, so how well things get wrapped up will likely depend on how naturally their original finale script and wherever they already were with filming all the season's character and relationships arcs and can be veered to act as endings, with these ensemble cast story time constraints, lol. But the straights and lesbians have to feel included, right? On the young gay male centered show? Lol. Ofc they do. And it still got cancelled. But this show has already lost me with this trailer and synopsis. I was already struggling to even find Victor a likable character, and now seeing him get yet ANOTHER romantic interest, and another white man at that, wasn't a choice I was ever going to feel was rewarding of what was a large part of the heart of this show and why anyone was invested. So is Benji going to be getting his back blown out wherever he has to go "alone", which is very likely rehab, while Victor is clearly kissing and doing whatever else with the lipless Tad in the car? Probably not. All this trailer did was make me want Love, Benji the spinoff. I'm over Victor and his "problems." I'd rather see Benji get to the root of his alcoholism and climb some man mountains, lol. #TwinkBottomSolidarity Well, last 2 seasons people were complaining about them casting straight actors in the gay roles, now they cast an out actor and the complaint switches to him being white. I suspect the casting director will be glad this particular project has come to an end. I will admit being surprised they would introduce a third love interest for Victor, without ruling out either of the first two. I just hope they get to do some sexy stuff instead of whatever PG-13 stuff being given to the straights and the lesbians. (Apparently this show is going to be released on Disney+ now so I hope that doesn't herald a reduction in the gay content we got last season.) I would sign up to a Benji-centric spin-off (especially if they are bolder with the sexual content - he should be graduating high school) but knowing our luck any spin-off we get will probably be focused on Lake. Are we sure Benji's the bottom though? I thought they left it ambiguous. He was on top in one scene and then under Victor in the other.
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Post by daleeryohm on May 22, 2022 9:35:44 GMT -5
Well, the (white) powers-that-be of this show decided to condemn Benji's whiteness in terms of him understanding and relating to Victor's family in the first place, so introducing (unnecessarily) another, white potential love interest for Victor, begs to be criticized. It shows a lack of caring and attention happened behind the scenes, as it defeats its own message and representation to have a poc lead, just to double down with love interests that give the idea that whiteness is the ideal for romance and adjacency and worth a POC having to always compromise themselves for. So they did it to themselves, really. Let us pray this casting director finds better creative teams and producers to work with in the future.
And another thing, it's been bothering me, how our leading gay male POC characters, like Eric in Sex Education, and now Victor too, keep ending up becoming the villains, with how self-centered and shallow and undeserving of their own love stories they get written to be. There's great reason to be concerned about how both shows will end, and with this season of Love Victor also having its episode count cut last minute too, I don't see the show ending well and in a way that it'll be remembered fondly for. Ncuti Gatwa already has a great new gig to move on to, but a lot of the time shows that fall from grace and that people stop caring about, it has an effect on the actors getting new work. So it doesn't bode well for the Love Victor cast.
As far as sexiness goes, the only one I cared to see Victor be with is Benji, so it doesn't matter to me now what rating Victor's sexual scenes are, or compared to the straight and lesbian ones. It's nothing I want to see or will be seeing anyway. My hope would be that Benji and Rahim get to have their own lives too that we get to see, and it's not just Victor that gets all the action and is who matters.
And just because as I'm sure they created Victor to be a masculine athlete to broaden his overall appeal to audiences, we're supposed to assume he's a top based on his attraction to and chemistry with Benji and the size difference and physical dynamic they have. Benji's ex seemed like he would have been a top too.
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Post by justinate on May 22, 2022 12:52:34 GMT -5
I don't think that's the message they're going for, although I can see how some may read it that way. (Especially if Victor turns Rahim down flat but goes full steam ahead with the new boy.) But I don't agree that Victor has compromised to be with Benji. The root of Isabel's problems with Benji (and vice versa) had to do with her religiously-influenced homophobia. Benji was well within his rights to call that out. And Victor also had valid points about respecting his family and his upbringing, so I feel like both of them compromised, as should be the case in a mature relationship. (I'm not understanding why you want to see Victor/Benji love scenes if you think this relationship is imbalanced and racially insensitive.)
I also don't agree that Victor has fallen so far down the ranks of likability that no one will root for him or that he is undeserving of a love story. He is making a mistake born of poor communication, impatience and hormones - which is normal for teenagers. (Heck, it's normal for the adult leads of 90% of TV shows and they seem to do just fine.) If everyone is going to be judged harshly for teenaged errors in romantic relationships, then there wouldn't be a single series that gets renewed. (The straight leads of Sex Education, teens and adults, make similar mistakes and it's not impacted their longevity. Sex Education's bigger problem is not Eric cheating, but being romantically linked to his bully in the first place.) As for the future prospects of the Love, Victor cast, I wouldn't worry. Many of them (not least the ones in the queer roles) are already doing well getting their next gigs - I just saw Michael Cimino in Senior Year, Anthony Keyvan has been cast in XO, Kitty, Mason Gooding is in the new Scream movies, Bebe Wood is in a movie, and I wouldn't be surprised if B&B asks Anthony Turpel back - so I really doubt a poor ending to the series will affect their careers. What shows are you thinking of where that happened?
It's funny how we have different takes on the physicality/presence of the actors and how that might translate to their sexual positions - George Sear may be shorter but he always came off more "in charge" and more solidly muscular, whereas Michael Cimino has a leaner build and plays Victor as a mama's boy/people pleaser. And Benji's ex really gave me bottom vibes ... and that was before I watched the same actor being prepped for bottoming in his role on The White Lotus.
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Post by sonnenstern on May 22, 2022 18:09:02 GMT -5
All this trailer did was make me want Love, Benji the spinoff. I'm over Victor and his "problems." I'd rather see Benji get to the root of his alcoholism and climb some man mountains, lol. #TwinkBottomSolidarity Oh no, I don‘t agree. In the bedroom scene at Victor‘s home before his mother was coming in, it was really really clear, that Victor was bottom and Benji was top.
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Post by daleeryohm on May 22, 2022 20:03:51 GMT -5
That's exactly why I want Venji, as it's called, because they had dealt with the issue of race in their relationship, and while by no means is that ever a one-time thing because interracial partners have to everyday navigate and endure the racism and divides of the world, they had proved they had the tools and capability for working past it and always loving each other (or so I thought). So I didn't find that relationship imbalanced or insensitive, before they were ruined with soap opera contrivances to release Victor because tv writers be lazy lol. Michael and George as their characters were just a perfect fit together imo, that I ship Victor and Benji despite those differences. It wasn't til the unnecessary and redundant inclusion of this Nick dude, that it became a problem for me. Too many people prefer Rahim and hate Benji because it's only about race for them, and that's wrong too.
And I'm tired of "hormones" being an excuse for anyone at anytime and at any stage of life, lol smh. You don't build a love story like Victor's with Benji, just to turn around and act like losing all control of your brain and heart and actions is actually a thing. Yeah, people can be horny and liars in real life, but lifelong high-school sweethearts also exist, and so do teenagers with good sense. Media has too long sold and normalized that the tropes they use to generate drama is a real reflection of life. It doesn't give people enough credit.
And I had Glee and HIMYM and Game of Thrones at the top of my head when I wrote that, but find any cancelation lists or ranked list of disgraced shows, and you'll find plenty of examples of actors that disappeared. Plenty of YA shows on these lists too.
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