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Post by amber80 on Apr 15, 2008 15:47:42 GMT -5
When Gregor joined the show he apparently indeed worked as a callboy to finance his helicopter company. Though the impliaction was that he was more like an escort/gigolo for rich women. Thanks for the info Lola!
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Post by anita on Apr 15, 2008 22:40:31 GMT -5
Who else do I like who shows up in Christian and Oliver's clips?
I like Judith, this girl knows how to give space to Oliver and Christian, plus I like her with Fabian. I also enjoy moments with manipulative and bitchy Olivia, she won me over with her enthusiastic "Los ran an den Speck" after Christian's disco jealousy attack.
Most of all, I enjoy moments with Gregor - in all fairness, I like him even without Oliver and Christian in the scene - he's just so cute.
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Post by psionycx on Apr 15, 2008 22:51:28 GMT -5
Gregor is just heartbreakingly beautiful! Plus he's so lovable. I think he needs an Olli of his own right now. You can tell he's hurting emotionally, especially when Christian snapped and made that remark about "f***ing away the frustrations of your failed marriage." The look that crossed Gregor's face before he excused himself to go get changed was so expressive.
Speaking of which, what is it with these actors? One thing that is really getting to me in all of this is that Thore, Jo and Andreas seem to do such a great job with facial expressions, which is not something we usually see as a talent in most U.S. soap actors. I mean that they really manage subtle but very expressive facial work. That's a whole different talent than delivering lines and we usually only see it on actors in primetime dramas. It seems to be much more prevalent in Germany.
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Post by anita on Apr 15, 2008 23:03:28 GMT -5
Gregor is just heartbreakingly beautiful! Plus he's so lovable. I think he needs an Olli of his own right now. You can tell he's hurting emotionally, especially when Christian snapped and made that remark about "f***ing away the frustrations of your failed marriage." The look that crossed Gregor's face before he excused himself to go get changed was so expressive. He really is lovable and Andreas Jancke's line deliveries are so charming and cute. Thou I wouldn't mind seeing Gregor with his own Olli as suggested, I believe he is still hurting a lot because of Sarah. If I recall correctly from Gregor Mann's cv on Andreas Jancke's page, his and Sarah's baby was the second that he lost.
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 16, 2008 0:25:16 GMT -5
It will always be completely beyond me how a guy as hot and likable can be so unlucky in love. Especially since it seems that while he is a cad most of the time, he isn't a cad in his relationships, just when he's single.
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 19, 2008 23:21:31 GMT -5
Somebody on afterelton kindly linked this Gregor shirtless vid. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmpT7s9-A2IMaybe it can give you an impression of just why he is so beside himself over his marriage breaking up. Also? I know that soap operas can't be too realistic when it comes to body types, but in what universe do I believe that scrawny Leonhard could get the best of Gregor in a fight? Even when Gregor is weakened by many days of marathon sex (which incidentally was the context of the first scene. On the show Leonhard was worried because Sarah had told him she was going on a field trip with her college class, but he couldn't reach her because instead of going she spent the time having lots of marathon sex with Gregor. In the subplot Lars and Christian discuss about how neither of them has dared to enter the appartment in two days) Also? Don't you just love soaps? Where the hunks take of their shirts to theatralically angst into the camera? I really wonder what came first, the whole cast taking up boxing or the show doing storylines around. If the private life boxing came first and then was integrated into the show, I'm just gonna say THANK YOU MARIANGELA FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS!
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 20, 2008 23:38:34 GMT -5
Random, I just read up on Gregor's history on his fanpage and I now understand a lot that I didn't get before.
- Gregor used his callboy money to be able to open his own helicopter service - Then he met his first important girlfriend Max; because of her he gave up his callboy ways - He had a helicopter accident which ruined his eyesight so he would never be able to fly again (read: doing helicopter storylines became too expensive) - Gregor inherited the No Limits from Cecile when she died (Cecile = Leonhard's first wife; apparently they were all close friends) - Then a former client of his died and left him tons of money which he used to renovate No Limits
Oh and the whole first baby he lost? Was by NATALIE! *blinks* I had no idea. Aparently they were childhood friends. Gregor wa with Max, Natalie was with Ansgar, they had a one night stand, she got pregnant, there was relationship drama and then she lost the baby anyway and both returned to/stayed with their their SOs.
Max and Gregor had a lot of conflicts, like obviously the issue with Natalie (which apparently Max came around to). Then Ansgar decided to get revenge on Gregor by manipulating the situation to make it look like he had slept with Max and so Gregor dumped Max. When he found out that Max hadn't actually slept with Ansgar he fought for her and convinced her not to leave town. Then they had more conflict about what they want to do with their lives (Max wanted to start anew in a different country, Gregor wanted to build up the No Limits with Max as a cook) and because of all these conflicts Max stood Gregor up at the wedding and then left town.
Gregor was heartbroken and then eventually met Sarah. Christian also came back around this time (after Max had already left).
I hope they eventually clear up the Gregor doesn't know storyline and give us an emotionally satisfying conclusion. Maybe have him admit that it he was in denial because it freaks him out that he might no longer be the most important man in Christian's life. Or that he was as freaked out about that this might cause him to lose Christian, just as he (Gregor) is emotionally at his lowest, as much as Christian was worried about losing. Or that some subconcious part of him didn't want Christian to have found love somewhere when Gregor wasn't looking right at the moment when Gregor is so unhappy himself. Just throw us some sort of bone rather than "Gregor is being dumb/insensitive".
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Post by friday13fan on Apr 22, 2008 16:34:36 GMT -5
So, if Fabian is Sam the Eagle... what muppets are the rest of the cast? I hate to say it, but my first thought was Miss Piggy as Coco! That's more because of the hair than weight, mind you! I guess that means Thore is Kermit. But who is Ollie? Scooter? There aren't a lot of girl muppets, so Judith would have to be Janice, I guess. Lars is Fozzie? Or Gregor is Fozzie? Who matches Gonzo? Rawlf? Animal?
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Post by psionycx on Apr 22, 2008 21:37:37 GMT -5
I really am eager to see what the deal is with Gregor. It does seem to stretch credibility that he's so clueless. But I agree that maybe he may not be emotionally ready to cope with any more big changes in his life. Obviously, finding out that your beloved little brother/wing man, who has always been a comrade in babe hunting, is now deeply, passionately in love with another man. Pile that on top of everything else he's been through lately and they may find him hiding under the counter at No Limits crying and sucking his thumb.
Plus, isn't the anniversary of their father's death coming up?
Hopefully, they've got something good in mind. Gregor's reaction is a big part of how a story like this should develop.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 22, 2008 22:38:13 GMT -5
I really am eager to see what the deal is with Gregor. It does seem to stretch credibility that he's so clueless. But I agree that maybe he may not be emotionally ready to cope with any more big changes in his life. Obviously, finding out that your beloved little brother/wing man, who has always been a comrade in babe hunting, is now deeply, passionately in love with another man. Pile that on top of everything else he's been through lately and they may find him hiding under the counter at No Limits crying and sucking his thumb. Plus, isn't the anniversary of their father's death coming up?Hopefully, they've got something good in mind. Gregor's reaction is a big part of how a story like this should develop. I believe it's Cinco De Mayo, which is sadly the only reason why I remember the date.
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 23, 2008 1:43:13 GMT -5
I just hope that there is some sort of pay off other than, well, Gregor was stupid or Christian was oversensitive. That the brothers actually get an episode or two to really talk to each other and sort things out (kinda of like after their father died).
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Post by bugchicklv on May 5, 2008 3:07:29 GMT -5
So, who else do you like who shows up in Christian and Oliver's clips? I adore Olivia, her snarkiness and all. She's just so much fun! I really like Judith, too. I just hope they don't pull a reverse Maggi/Noah/Luke with that and have her and Christian hook up. That would be yuck. Miriam makes my teeth itch. She's just so irritating. I think it's the waitress in me getting pissed at how incompetent she is. Same with Lisa. Although, I don't like her because she seems to be so damn full of herself. I want Sarah's hair. Rick is creepy. Like, eww. First trying to screw around with Olli, and then Sarah (turning her into a coke whore?). Opportunistic much? Gregor makes me drool, hardcore. Especially when he's shirtless. I kinda want to whop him upside the head though at how clueless he's being when it comes to his brother and Olli. Wake up and smell the gay, Gregor. Christian TRIED TO TELL YOU! And for some odd reason I just want to grab Sebastian and hug him tight. I want to hold him and pet him and love him and squeeze him and call him George...even though I have no idea who is in relation to the rest of the story.
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Post by lolaruns on May 5, 2008 13:49:59 GMT -5
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Post by susurrus on May 5, 2008 14:02:59 GMT -5
Thanks, lolaruns! Yep, I love his eyes too. But the rest of him isn't half bad either.
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Post by Bonobochick on May 5, 2008 14:06:06 GMT -5
I like the wifebeater. Move over, Ben McKenzie!!
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Post by harmonium on May 5, 2008 14:50:10 GMT -5
Oooh. He's so adorable. He and Wentworth must be separated at birth. They look so damn alike. Thanks for posting. He's 2 years younger than me. Hehe.. This is the pic from the VL official website. He got a pair of killer eyes and he look pretty harmless.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 5, 2008 14:56:11 GMT -5
Way a minute. Ben doesn't have to move over, he can get all comfy and cozy with me, along with Milan, Thore, Jo and "My Three Jakes" (Jake Silberman, Jake Gyllenhaal and Jake Hendricks).
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Post by Bonobochick on May 5, 2008 14:56:48 GMT -5
Oooh. He's so adorable. He and Wentworth must be separated at birth. They look so damn alike. Thanks for posting. He's 2 years younger than me. Hehe.. This is the pic from the VL official website. He got a pair of killer eyes and he look pretty harmless. He half-Black too like Wentworth? Cause it would be awesome to have a minority/ person of color on this show.
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Post by harmonium on May 5, 2008 15:00:12 GMT -5
Oooh. He's so adorable. He and Wentworth must be separated at birth. They look so damn alike. Thanks for posting. He's 2 years younger than me. Hehe.. This is the pic from the VL official website. He got a pair of killer eyes and he look pretty harmless. He half-Black too like Wentworth? Cause it would be awesome to have a minority/ person of color on this show. Wentworth is a mixed-race? I didn't know that. I thought he's pure white if you guys know what I mean (ie. both parents are white). Anyway, couldn't care less what blood they are mixed as long as they turn out DAMN fine like him and Milan. Oooooh!!
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Post by lolaruns on May 5, 2008 15:06:32 GMT -5
Wentworth's father is black. I was wondering about Milan too, particularly because of the name and because of the awesome hair. Maybe some Italian? Or Yugoslavian? Anyway, none of his bios note anything in particular.
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Post by susurrus on May 5, 2008 15:22:02 GMT -5
I just noticed that Milan is two years younger than Katrin Heß (Judith) whereas Shai Hoffmann (Fabian) is three years older (than Katrin). Katrin and Shai sure look younger than they are.
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Post by Bonobochick on May 5, 2008 15:39:33 GMT -5
Wentworth's father is black. I was wondering about Milan too, particularly because of the name and because of the awesome hair. Maybe some Italian? Or Yugoslavian? Anyway, none of his bios note anything in particular. It would be interesting to find out Milan's ethnic make-up. Every show needs at least a little bit of color! I am still embarrassed that I missed WM was mixed. I am usually superb at sporting others of my kind but I missed him.
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Post by ivaniv on May 5, 2008 15:41:51 GMT -5
Milan sounds Yugoslavian to me.
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Post by amber80 on May 5, 2008 15:43:33 GMT -5
Oooh. He's so adorable. He and Wentworth must be separated at birth. They look so damn alike. Thanks for posting. He's 2 years younger than me. Hehe.. This is the pic from the VL official website. He got a pair of killer eyes and he look pretty harmless. His eyes are gorgeous! (The rest of him is gorgeous too, but his eyes really do stand out.)
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Post by Bonobochick on May 5, 2008 15:52:15 GMT -5
Oooh. He's so adorable. He and Wentworth must be separated at birth. They look so damn alike. Thanks for posting. He's 2 years younger than me. Hehe.. This is the pic from the VL official website. He got a pair of killer eyes and he look pretty harmless. His eyes are gorgeous! (The rest of him is gorgeous too, but his eyes really do stand out.) Yes, especially since the distraction of that Jheri-curl lite he had going on has been removed. (not knocking curly hair, just that he looks better with the shaved head, IMO)
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