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Post by Zathras on Nov 1, 2016 19:29:44 GMT -5
Argh. I don't know whether to watch clips or wait until it airs on BBC America.  |
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Post by mizuryuu on Nov 5, 2016 18:44:06 GMT -5
Just watched the 4th episode. Nice that they are making good use of Matteusz living with Charlie. Also nice that they didn't depict a perfect relationship as most are messy.
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Post by daleeryohm on Nov 5, 2016 20:43:59 GMT -5
The most forced episode so far, but still, I'm loving this show more than I have Dr Who for years...
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Post by mizuryuu on Nov 7, 2016 2:04:34 GMT -5
I felt the Ram/April thing and April's storyline in general was way too forced, but the rest of the storylines was pretty good. Quill got some nice development, and so did Charlie/Matteusz
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Post by daleeryohm on Nov 7, 2016 9:03:49 GMT -5
I like April and Ram just fine, but it definitely could've used more development. And Tanya had some good funny moments. But the central April and Shadowkin storylines were very WTF in a bad way. And I was cringing through the April actress getting through the angry demonic possession acting.
I too, didn't want Charlie and Matteusz to have an unrealistically perfect relationship, but the switch was too abrupt. They went from honeymooning to being kinda distant and having a blowup over moral differences between episodes.
I couldn't live out my Matteusz fantasies as high school is over for me lol, so I need to see them be happy a bit longer my god.
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Post by mizuryuu on Nov 8, 2016 2:21:13 GMT -5
I think the reason people have a lot of problem with how quick everything change is the show doesn't do a good job of showing how much time has passed between each episode. It makes everything seems to change really abruptly, such as how quickly Ram got over his girlfriend, the April/Ram relationship, the development of Charlie/Matteusz....
I think the Charlie/Matteusz storyline is done quite well. Unless Charlie and Matteusz had a lot of interactions offscreen before the start of the series, Charlie and Matteusz haven't spent too much time together. They are still in the early phase of a relationship where they are learning more about each other. Learning how differently Charlie thinks about punishment is obviously a shock to Matteusz. Charlie revealing that he lied and kept things from Matteusz also doesn't help build trust. Hopefully, this conflict won't result in the end of their relationship. Them holding hands entering April's backyard is an encouraging sign
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Post by lexmoon on Nov 13, 2016 17:11:32 GMT -5
Charlie x Matteusz - Ep 5
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Post by mizuryuu on Nov 15, 2016 1:49:20 GMT -5
I liked that they gave Matteusz a larger role. I'm glad they didn't have Charlie hide the secret of the Cabinet from his boyfriend. Still afraid that they will kill off Matteusz by the end of the series to demonstrate that people aren't "safe"
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Post by leemil on Nov 20, 2016 7:33:16 GMT -5
Finally some actual character development for charlie. Really enjoyed this episode.
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Post by lexmoon on Nov 20, 2016 10:24:40 GMT -5
Charlie x Matteusz - Ep. 6, part 1:2
Ep. 6, part 2:2
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 4, 2016 10:10:08 GMT -5
New clips courtesy of Nanii:
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Post by daleeryohm on Dec 4, 2016 10:23:43 GMT -5
It was a SUPERmelodramatic finale. Not a good thing. A lot of cheese happening.
I'm still interested in a 2nd season though, and overall, it was a great show.
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Post by devillies on Dec 4, 2016 11:55:41 GMT -5
It was a SUPERmelodramatic finale. Not a good thing. A lot of cheese happening. I'm still interested in a 2nd season though, and overall, it was a great show. It's a doctor who spinoff of course it will be cheesy that's the main requirement haha |
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Post by daleeryohm on Dec 4, 2016 14:45:48 GMT -5
It felt so OTT, though. I thought the writing had teetered on that line kinda often throughout the season, especially with April and her direct encounters with the Shadowkin, but the finale had me laughing. The writing was much deeper and less hammy in previous episodes.
That said, without spoiling, I'm also of two minds about the new villain for the next season, because really Class? Using "them" felt like a desperate ploy to shock and make the show all the more Whovian. I was tired of the Shadowkin, however, so it's good for that.
It's a great cast, though. I'm invested in all the characters and like all the actors. Ms. Quill and Tanya together was especially moving in this last episode.
And Charlie and Matteusz were sort of left hanging, as they didnt have a closing scene, but I'll just throw them in with the other cliffhangers.
The show needs to come back sooner than later. Much more enjoyable than Dr. Who has been in years. And with this cast of student characters, there's someone there for everyone, like a show of Companions without the Doctor. Not just another pretty female sidekick.
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Post by sunshine0786 on Dec 4, 2016 23:35:40 GMT -5
It felt so OTT, though. I thought the writing had teetered on that line kinda often throughout the season, especially with April and her direct encounters with the Shadowkin, but the finale had me laughing. The writing was much deeper and less hammy in previous episodes. That said, without spoiling, I'm also of two minds about the new villain for the next season, because really Class? Using "them" felt like a desperate ploy to shock and make the show all the more Whovian. I was tired of the Shadowkin, however, so it's good for that. It's a great cast, though. I'm invested in all the characters and like all the actors. Ms. Quill and Tanya together was especially moving in this last episode. And Charlie and Matteusz were sort of left hanging, as they didnt have a closing scene, but I'll just throw them in with the other cliffhangers. The show needs to come back sooner than later. Much more enjoyable than Dr. Who has been in years. And with this cast of student characters, there's someone there for everyone, like a show of Companions without the Doctor. Not just another pretty female sidekick. I think the show a lot of potential. I do agree with you about "them", and being sick of the Shadowkin. Although we are sort of stuck with whatever happened to April, so that still has to play out. I sort of disagree about Charlie and Matteusz, they had just as much closure if not more than April and Ram. Charlie and Matteusz were getting back together before SHTF. Everything is obviously different now, with everyone being changed by the events of the episode. I'm also very curious about Quill and her pregnancy. I'm putting my theory in spoiler quotes because I mention something Quill said in the episode I wonder if she is carrying a Rhodian baby. She made a comment about Quills carrying multiples and she knew she was only pregnant with one child. Since she got pregnant in the cabinet one of the Rhodian souls may have hitched a ride. That would be interesting. Do we know if it's coming back? |
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Post by daleeryohm on Dec 4, 2016 23:57:59 GMT -5
After what Charlie did, we can't say for sure how Matteusz will feel now. That's what I meant regarding those 2. Their relationship angst all had to do with Charlie and his choice, which he ended up making, so we'll have to see how Matteusz handles it.
And Ms Quill may have been altered more by the shapeshifter god's heart than anyone knew, so I think that may be why her pregnancy's different. But good thing, because we can't lose her!
And all I know was that until we officially hear otherwise, that was the season finale.
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Post by mizuryuu on Dec 4, 2016 23:58:17 GMT -5
One thing I'm glad they actually did this time is add the text that made it clear that six days had passed since the last episode. The hardest thing about the previous episodes is judging how much time has pass, cause some of the things wouldn't be very realistic unless a suitable amount of time has past.
**Possible spoilers**
I am just glad that what I feared about Matteusz did not happen. Considering the emphasis the show put on Matteusz's pacifism, I would not be surprised if they are broken up by the start of the next season. I would actually be okay with that, since I always thought that the relationship was racing ahead a bit too quickly considering the time progression. Hopefully, they will make Matteusz a main character next season.
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Post by sunshine0786 on Dec 5, 2016 6:51:59 GMT -5
One thing I'm glad they actually did this time is add the text that made it clear that six days had passed since the last episode. The hardest thing about the previous episodes is judging how much time has pass, cause some of the things wouldn't be very realistic unless a suitable amount of time has past. **Possible spoilers** I am just glad that what I feared about Matteusz did not happen. Considering the emphasis the show put on Matteusz's pacifism, I would not be surprised if they are broken up by the start of the next season. I would actually be okay with that, since I always thought that the relationship was racing ahead a bit too quickly considering the time progression. Hopefully, they will make Matteusz a main character next season. I actually think that if they are broken up it's not just Mateusz's pacifism, but also how Charlie feels about himself. In the end Mateusz's plea was because he didn't want Charlie to die. Charlie did not want to survive, because he knew he wouldn't be able to live with the guilt. Now he has to and that changes a person. He's basically the Time War Doctor. An incarnation so damaged that the Doctor never acknowledged his existence. The two of them need to start a support group. |
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Post by mizuryuu on Dec 5, 2016 23:25:01 GMT -5
They did make a big point of Matteusz pacifism. The dislike of guns, the begging to Charlie not to "go where he can't follow", and other instances made it clear that it is a point of contention between the two. Whether that is enough to threaten their relationship would be up in the air, and what affect Charlie's guilt would have on their relationship would be possible points they can explore in the next series
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Post by Zathras on May 14, 2017 20:09:50 GMT -5
I haven’t said much about Class. It just finished airing the 5th episode on BBC America. (I decided to wait until it aired here so I could more easily see the whole show  ). That's the one where April confronts the king of the Shadowkin in their realm. The show is decent. It's about what I expected from a Doctor Who spinoff. I’ll admit I’d like a bit more development of the characters and their relationships, and the pacing has been a bit uneven. There have been some highlights. The sex scene between Charlie and Matteusz in ep 3 was a lot more than I expected to see. The declaration of love seemed pretty quick, though (as some of you said last year) the show never told us how much time really passed. I didn't like that the young folks have basically been ignoring Quill. I kind of get Charlie doing that (to some extent) but that doesn't really help matters. I liked the end of the latest episode, where Charlie looks to Matteusz to help find himself. He really doesn’t have much direction. His people are gone. He's living on an alien world with the only remaining survivor of his enemy. He holds the souls of his people in a box, hoping that some day he might be able to resurrect them. At the same time he's grown closer to Matteusz, yet in some fundamental ways there is a limit to how close they can ever get. |
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Post by kevvoi on Sept 8, 2017 16:08:12 GMT -5
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Post by mizuryuu on Sept 10, 2017 6:04:56 GMT -5
Not too surprised. The lack of advertisement for it and the multi-month delay between the UK showing and the America showing probably doomed it. A lot of Doctor Who fans I know didn't even know about the show.
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Post by Zathras on Sept 10, 2017 15:52:14 GMT -5
Aww  |
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Post by leemil on Sept 11, 2017 5:41:47 GMT -5
Aww Yeah, I actually enjoyed the show as well |
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Post by justinate on Sept 12, 2017 10:01:42 GMT -5
I was expecting cancellation after the poor ratings but still sad to see it confirmed. I appreciated a gay lead in a sci-fi drama aimed at teens/young adults. And both actors were easy on the eyes and shared chemistry.
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). That's the one where April confronts the king of the Shadowkin in their realm.
